***** OFFICIAL UFC 117 thread ~ Silva/Sonnen ~ Sat. August 7th, 2010 - Oakland

I dunno who said he had broken ribs. All I know is he had a rib injury that was severe enough the doctors told him to pull out. For those of you talking about the prefight shit, well fighters can beat those easily. Thiago Silva fought Rashad with a fucked up back, but still fought after receiving a nice bonus. People have fought with borken bones. Matt Hamill just fought with an open fuckin staph infection sore. So don't give me that pre-fight medicals stuff.

As for the actual injury. I don't think a "bruised rib" would cause a doctor to tell a fighter he shouldn't fight. At best a dislocated rib, at worst a broken one. As for rib vs ribs, well sometimes shit is lost in translation. I posted the gif because people didn't believe there even was a rib injury.
 
Without reading all the other post, because I am sure there were a lot of dumb responses. Anderson just did not look like himself last night. I thought, for sure, that he was going to lose after he slipped and fell in that final round. He took an ass whoopin, but I don't remember seeing him ever being out of the fight. Bottom line is Chael has week ass ground and pound. He has Silva on his back the whole 25 minutes. He should have been able to finish him. It seemed like he made no effort to pass the guard. When he passed Anderson was always able to pull it back. Week ground and pound + not passing the guard is what kept him from taking Silva out. He dictated every minute of that fight. Silva was unable to keep it on the feet, so he finished him on the ground. Once Chael started swimming in to his punches, Anderson went after that neck, then locked up that arm bar. I like how he kept that arm until he was absolutely sure that the ref knew that he was tapping. Chael has lost to submission before and has acted like the ref called it too soon.
 
I was just like :eek: when Silva just stood there and took these punches in the 1st round. Maybe it was the lack of agility he had or just wanted to show him he ain't hurting him but shit was bonkers.
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Sonnen threw everything he had at him but couldn't do it. Maybe give Jon Bones Jones 2 more fights & let him go at Silva. That would be sumin special.​
 
As for the actual injury. I don't think a "bruised rib" would cause a doctor to tell a fighter he shouldn't fight. At best a dislocated rib, at worst a broken one. As for rib vs ribs, well sometimes shit is lost in translation.

LD,

my bet is costochondral separation.

it would explain why some people would think fracture and then jump to broken bone.
 
Bottom line is Chael has week ass ground and pound. He has Silva on his back the whole 25 minutes.

or chael sonnen has good gnp but anderson silva made him look bad.

anderson silva's wrist control (of sonnen's right) and later head control was giving sonnen fits in guard. there was a stretch of several minutes where all sonnen could do was wave that pitiful left hand to score the feeble "hammer fists".

and as you mentioned in your post, anderson silva was able to reclaim full guard even in instances where sonnen had half-guard and later side control.
 
in california, to be licensed as a professional fighter, you have to have an annual MRI and EKG.

pre-bout, your physician has to submit your medical history to the athletic commission medical board for review. you are examined by a physician (not your own) no more than 30 hours before your fight and again no more than 1 hour before the fight.

http://www.dca.ca.gov/csac/forms_pubs/faqs.pdf

so it went from Broken ribs to bruise to fracture....

you got it famo...

Thats the same ANNUAL information. Show me where they take an X ray before the fight.
 
Chill out fam... you know insulting cats boyfriends on here is grounds for ocking or at the very least 3rd grade insults... also, they may act like Blunt when facts are presented.





Pretty much. and even showing the gif where he is holding his ribs. what the fuck is the point. if I hit my head on a door or something I'll likely hold it... does it mean that i have a FRACTURED SKULL??? right. didn't think so. In the press conference he never once said "broken" he said injured. Then later on he said broken in english no less like he's a great english orator and may not even know the term bruised. Dudes miss months with broken ribs in most/all major sports and this dude was in a ring fighting huh? This isn't the movie 300 fellas. Chill out with that hype man shit. Yeah Anderson is good, he's fucking great. Common sense will tell you that last night he did not have BROKEN ribs.

http://www.mmator.com/videos-seriou...-speaks-from-the-heart-in-english-t27348.html

He says broken right here. The injury took place 2 weeks before the fight. Fractured ribs don't heal in two weeks.
 
thats not my boy...actually I'm a Silva fan....you cats were eating that shit up about him having broken ribs...me and a few others said no...and we posted proof that the commission examines fighters with in hours of a fight...

and name calling really isn't necessary....it just shows a weak argument....

Theres no argument, here's the link.

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There's no X ray before the fight you lying piece of shit
 
ribs broken or bruised whatever.
all excuses go out the door if you choose to fight.
i dont want to hear nothing about that.
 
one calm down....next X-rays are given...if he had broken ribs he wouldn't get X-rayed by the physican....next I read an interview were his manager said it was a bruise earlier...no broken ribs.....

I'm tired of arguing about this. They don't X ray before fight, the X ray annually, then they just examine. You can get past a doctor easily with just a fracture. Anderson said there was a break himself. There's no argument here, those are the facts.
 
He said it's not an excuse, nor does he need to make an excuse, your boy lost.

my boy?
:lol::lol::lol::lol:
let me guess,because hes white:rolleyes:
look at the first couple pages of this thread and read my prediction.
i said sonnen would get knocked the fuck out.
i dont like either guy
 
I was just like :eek: when Silva just stood there and took these punches in the 1st round. Maybe it was the lack of agility he had or just wanted to show him he ain't hurting him but shit was bonkers.
silvapunched_rf8pzg83.gif

Sonnen threw everything he had at him but couldn't do it. Maybe give Jon Bones Jones 2 more fights & let him go at Silva. That would be sumin special.​

Those punches missed.

I'm tired of arguing about this. They don't X ray before fight, the X ray annually, then they just examine. You can get past a doctor easily with just a fracture. Anderson said there was a break himself. There's no argument here, those are the facts.

You are correct. In Cali, you get a "physical" once a year with all the workups to keep your license. That's what fucked Josh Barnett up. Before a fight, it's just an examination.
 
since GSP is working on TUF I don't see that superfight happening anytime soon...

other than a rematch with Sonnen...there is nothing at 185...even Vitor probably his best challenge at 185 is at 205...

he needs to move to 205 and fight a top 5 or 10 guy or fight Sonnen again....

'Page, Vitor....

i'd prefer to see a new challenger, but a rematch with sonnen over vitor belfort.

i mean damn, haven't we seen everything we're gonna see from vito belfort? he's 33 and been fighting here for 14 years now. 8 losses, all to strikers or wrestlers with gnp.

and chael sonnen, same kinda shit. 11 losses, 7 by submission via triangle choke or armbar.

let anderson silva fight some new faces. i thought anderson silva was more entertaining in that string of victories he had in 2006-08 (chris leben - dan henderson) moreso than 2008-present (james irvin - chael sonnen)
Dana's gonna milk the Sonnen thing, I bet. The press is already trying to anoint Chael the people's champ, anyway. They're treating his loss like when Shogun lost to, but exposed, Machida and then came back to demolish him. But the difference is Machida "won" the first fight, due to a bogus decision. Sonnen tapped out, to not be chocked out (and have his arm broken). That's a decisive win. Sonnen didn't get robbed. So, I'd personally like to see some fresh blood against Anderson, too. All this time, finding a match up for Anderson was difficult because he was light years ahead of his competition. Maybe now that there seems to be cracks in his armor, there will be better match ups. 205 is crowded, 185 is empty and cutting all that weight to fight GSP would be ill-advised. Time for Dana to scour other leagues for new talent.
 
trust me that republican dude hates to lose that way, its the worst way to lose, it says more about heart than anything else, to be so close to a victory and lose is a mental breakdown and he would rather have been knocked out in the first than to smell victory then taste defeat.

great win for Anderson

Prophetic words were spoken by Sonnen before the fight..." I don't know how Anderson responds to pressure, but we are all gonna find out...." THAT RACIST MOTHERFUCKER FOUND OUT!!!!!


FUCK SONNEN!!!!
 
Yeah - GSP/Koscheck were wrapping up filming of TUF just recently. That season begins airing on SPIKE / ROGERS SPORTSNET in September, with the TUF finale and UFC PPV event (GSP/Josh) in December.
 
Dana's gonna milk the Sonnen thing, I bet. The press is already trying to anoint Chael the people's champ, anyway. They're treating his loss like when Shogun lost to, but exposed, Machida and then came back to demolish him. But the difference is Machida "won" the first fight, due to a bogus decision. Sonnen tapped out, to not be chocked out (and have his arm broken). That's a decisive win. Sonnen didn't get robbed. So, I'd personally like to see some fresh blood against Anderson, too. All this time, finding a match up for Anderson was difficult because he was light years ahead of his competition. Maybe now that there seems to be cracks in his armor, there will be better match ups. 205 is crowded, 185 is empty and cutting all that weight to fight GSP would be ill-advised. Time for Dana to scour other leagues for new talent.

rumor is Vitor got next at 185....
 
Full props to RAWNESS as well!!

Heard the title bout was classic.

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This guy... :lol: You, moron, at what point did I say shit about Carwin?

Focus you illiterate cracka... At NO point should the SILVA/SONNEN fight have been stopped due to strikes, dimwit. Listen, whiteboy, you're not fooling anyone, but yourself. In fact, I'm don't think you're fooling yourself, either: You know you don't know what the fuck you're talking about, don't you? You're just too proud to tap out like your boy Chael did. A good run is better than a bad stand, easey reader. Scram! lol

I'm as much of an "illiterate cracka" as you are u blind chink faggot... you sound like a 9th grader in cad class you homo and that's not computer automated drafting. get back to your 100+ posts a day life while you play world of warcraft and whittle wooden statues of Silvas nuts son... this nigga made a pacifier of them shits and sleeps with them every night. and what the fuck was "easey reader"??? nigga stop typing while drunk. Now excuse me while I do some grown man shit which does not include upping my incredible post count. :cool:
 

man i was saying the same thing to my friends when matt hughes defeated another Gracie jiu-jitsu fighter :lol::lol::lol:

I could be wrong but i think H-FUNK posted some of the Saku fights sometime ago, Saku not just defeated Gracies but broke and dislocated Gracie arms:smh:

did he post the 90 minute fight?

that's the only 1 i haven't seen. i would love to see that one.



Yeah - I can't seem to track down that reply from 2009 or so. Had a bunch of KAZU' clips in it. Damn ... hmm. He was great back in the day, for sure.

KAZUSHI SAKURABA:


One of my favorite mixed martial artists of all-time. He's competed against many of the world's best internationally, and is easily one of the most exciting athletes in the sport (especially years ago in his prime). Very quick and inventine with his moves. I often have to remind myself that in many of the tournaments he('s) competed in ... he was going against much heavier opponents (considering he's 183lbs or so, and many of the guys listed often were able to compete in the light-heavy and heavyweight divisions in other organizations ... anywhere from 205 - 225lbs +). Good song in the backdrop too (U2)) on the Youtube clip. A list of his career is at the bottom of his Wikipedia page.


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazushi_Sakuraba







Kazushi Sakuraba (Japanese: 桜庭和志, Sakuraba Kazushi, born July 14, 1969 in present-day Katagami, Akita, Japan) is a Japanese professional mixed martial arts competitor. He has competed for New Japan Pro Wrestling, UWFi, Kingdom Pro Wrestling, the Ultimate Fighting Championship, Pride Fighting Championships, K-1 Hero's and Dream. He has the distinction of competing in the longest mixed martial arts bout on record, having beaten Royce Gracie in a 90-minute bout in 2000.

In Japan, he is known as "The IQ Wrestler", for his brilliance in the arts of catch wrestling and freestyle wrestling, as well as for his overall cerebral approach to fighting. He is also known as "Saku", which is frequently represented by the number "39" (the Japanese pronunciation of 3 being "san" and 9 "ku"). In the West, he is often referred to as the "Gracie Hunter," due to his victories over members the famed Gracie family of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu practitioners, including Royce Gracie, Renzo Gracie, Ryan Gracie and Royler Gracie. He also holds other notable wins over Vitor Belfort, Quinton Jackson, Guy Mezger, Kevin Randleman, and Ken Shamrock.[1]

Sakuraba is widely regarded as one of the greatest mixed martial arts fighters of all time. On a retrospective of Sakuraba's career, Mike Coughlin of the Wrestling Observer stated the following: "Not only is Sakuraba not over rated, simply put, he's the greatest fighter in the history of MMA. And not just the greatest fighter by a little bit, but by such a wide margin that his skill level may never actually be met by another competitor for generations, if ever."[2]
 
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Kid-Kong said:


Name Junior dos Santos
Nick Name Cigano
Record 7 - 1 - 0 (Win - Loss - Draw)
Wins 5 (T)KOs ( 71.43 %)
2 Submissions ( 28.57 %)
Losses 1 Submissions ( 100 %)
Association Team Nogueira
Height 6'4" (194cm)
Weight 238lbs (108kg)
City Salvador
Country Brazil

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brawin said:
Ultimate Fighting Championship 117, 2010
Gênero: Documentário
Origem: USA

Informações
Servidor....................: MU
Partes Compactadas..........: 16 partes
Tamanho dos arquivos........: 97 MB
Tamanho da última parte.....: 62 MB
Tamanho total...............: 1,48 GB
Tamanho descompactado.......: 1517 MB

Sinopse
UFC 117 USA vs. BRAZIL

UFC 117: Silva vs Sonnen foi um evento MMA realizado pelo Ultimate Fighting Championship em 7 de agosto de 2010 no Oracle Arena em Oakland, Califórnia, EUA


Fightcard
Anderson Silva vs. Chael Sonnen
Junior dos Santos vs. Roy Nelson
Jon Fitch vs. Thiago Alves
Matt Hughes vs. Ricardo Almeida
Clay Guida vs. Rafael dos Anjos
Dustin Hazelett vs. Rick Story
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kangd01 said:


rom said:

steveyp said:
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Just read that Silva will be sidelined for a while due to rib injury.

http://espn.go.com/extra/mma/blog/_/name/mma
This CAC writer had a couple of :hmm: moments.
Despite being bludgeoned in the head and body nearly 300 times by Chael Sonnen -- a fact that speaks to Sonnen's work ethic, if not exactly his power -- it may turn out that Anderson Silva's pending layoff could stem not from an aching brain but from the bruised/cracked rib he suffered in training:
So, you acknowledge Silva was fighting with a significant "bruised/cracked rib" injury, but credit only Chael's work ethic as why Silva's defense allowed such a work ethic against him? And exactly how do you refer to Silva's output as "bludgeoning" while questioning the power of his strikes? :rolleyes:
While it was a long and grueling fight, Sonnen came out of it largely unmarked.
WHAT?! Anderson Silva was the one who was "largely unmarked". I was Chael Sonned (see what I did there? :D) whose face was fucked up. Who DIDN'T see that? :dunno:

But, I agree Belfort should fight Sonnen, while Silva recovers.
 
ming, there's nothing in you that wants to see silva & sonnen run it back? thats a more interesting fight to me that belfort. & you know that betting line is gonna be a lot closer this time. i dont think the rematch could POSSIBLY be better than the one last saturday but thats the one i want to see.
 
ming, there's nothing in you that wants to see silva & sonnen run it back? thats a more interesting fight to me that belfort. & you know that betting line is gonna be a lot closer this time. i dont think the rematch could POSSIBLY be better than the one last saturday but thats the one i want to see.
Yeah, I'd like to see it, just from a spectator's perspective. But the fight fan in me? No. Sonnen tapped. Instant rematches should be reserved for controversial endings, draws or sometimes, 'iffy' DQ's. You can't use the fact that a fight was hard fought as an excuse to bump all the other contenders who fought hard fights of their own for a shot at the title. And upon further review, I think Belfort and Okami should fight for a shot at the title, while Silva heals. Okami has a win (via DQ) over Anderson and Belfort was supposed to have fought for the title already, but got sidelined by injury. It's back to the lottery Sonnen goes. He had his shot and lost decisively. A rematch would be exciting, perhaps, but not as justified as Hua/Machida was. If we're going to keep it real, from a sports perspective, we can't succumb to our wishes from an entertainment perspective. But try telling that to Dana 'Vince McMahon' White.
 
who's the dimwitted ignoramus that said the fight should have been stopped due to strikes? really??? GTFO with that bullshit. at anytime.. was silva limp? not defendin g? in any real danger? i'll answer... NO! look at silva's face... and now look at sonnen's. tell me who took the worst beating. boy i tell ya.. some of you dudes are either real fuckin haters or ya'll dont know shit about the sport.
 
Yeah, I'd like to see it, just from a spectator's perspective. But the fight fan in me? No. Sonnen tapped. Instant rematches should be reserved for controversial endings, draws or sometimes, 'iffy' DQ's. You can't use the fact that a fight was hard fought as an excuse to bump all the other contenders who fought hard fights of their own for a shot at the title. And upon further review, I think Belfort and Okami should fight for a shot at the title, while Silva heals. Okami has a win (via DQ) over Anderson and Belfort was supposed to have fought for the title already, but got sidelined by injury. It's back to the lottery Sonnen goes. He had his shot and lost decisively. A rematch would be exciting, perhaps, but not as justified as Hua/Machida was. If we're going to keep it real, from a sports perspective, we can't succumb to our wishes from an entertainment perspective. But try telling that to Dana 'Vince McMahon' White.



you know what, as i think about it, if you were to ask sonnen to describe exactly how he was going to win the fight, he wouldve described it the exact way it went down on saturday (except for the ending of course). i think he fought the best fight that he is physically capable of fighting. what more could he do? he threw over 200 strikes (admittedly a lot of them missed, a lot of them bullshit), had dominant position for the better part of five rounds, even reversed silva when he took him down. AND IT STILL WASNT GOOD ENOUGH TO BEAT SILVA. so if a not 100% silva was able to hold off the performance of chael sonnen's life then maybe an immediate rematch isnt that worthwhile.



still would watch it though
 
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