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[merce77]

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The Darvaza area is rich in natural gas. While drilling in 1971 geologists accidentally found an underground cavern filled with natural gas. The ground beneath the drilling rig collapsed, leaving a large hole with a diameter of about 50-100 meters. To avoid poisonous gas discharge, it was decided to burn the gas. Geologists had hoped the fire would go out in a few days but it has been burning ever since. Locals have named the cavern The Door to Hell. Next to capturing the gas, flaring is safer and friendlier to the environment than releasing the methane into the atmosphere as methane is a relatively potent greenhouse gas with a high global warming potential of 72 (averaged over 20 years) or 25 (averaged over 100 years).

 

[sean69]

I will quote this and address some of the points you brought up to my other post.

I think it is premature to think we have discovered all of the forces that govern and exist within our world. Further i think it is also premature to think we have the current know how, expertise and technological means to detect "other" forces of nature(unless you feel we got them all?). How many forces of nature x-rays,radiation for example, we were only made aware of by their results? Can we discount things such as Deja Vu and Esp, when in fact they could very well be "new" forces that are manifesting themselves by those very results?

I don't think I ever said or suggested that we've discovered all the forces that exist in our world. Actually i'm pretty damn sure I never did. You must be misunderstanding what i'm saying. I'm not discounting it as a reasonable idea, just as a rational one. And i'm offering an alternative explanation/theory that's more robust. Isn't that how the scientific process uncovers knowledge?

I'm saying that you can't directly extrapolate quantum effects/phenomena to large body events. You just can't. Mathematically classical and quantum physics are coherent (break down at high energy's or speeds though) but to extend ESP to quantum entanglement you have to explain and outline a valid theory for this, for it to be science. Other than that it's just conjecture and ideas, which I recall saying that I had no issue with.

Yeah "they could very well be new forces". There could very well be a supernatural being that mediates these forces. How about you call it God. Is that now a silly religious claim? If so, why? What's the difference? Semantics? Nomenclature? Mechanism? Agency?

Now, on a deeper level, I personally don't think the holy grail of modern physics, The Standard Model of PARTICLE physics is complete, or even a valid model. There is a reasonable and rational scientifically testable and predictive model that's more complete. Go back and read my reply in this thread to the guy that posted the Wave-particle Duality "Double-Slit Experiment". Does that sound like someone who thinks we've figured it all out. I don't think so.

 

[tical]

I don't think I ever said or suggested that we've discovered all the forces that exist in our world. Actually i'm pretty damn sure I never did. You must be misunderstanding what i'm saying. I'm not discounting it as a reasonable idea, just as a rational one. And i'm offering an alternative explanation/theory that's more robust. Isn't that how the scientific process uncovers knowledge?

I'm saying that you can't directly extrapolate quantum effects/phenomena to large body events. You just can't. Mathematically classical and quantum physics are coherent (break down at high energy's or speeds though) but to extend ESP to quantum entanglement you have to explain and outline a valid theory for this, for it to be science. Other than that it's just conjecture and ideas, which I recall saying that I had no issue with.

Yeah "they could very well be new forces". There could very well be a supernatural being that mediates these forces. How about you call it God. Is that now a silly religious claim? If so, why? What's the difference? Semantics? Nomenclature? Mechanism? Agency?

Now, on a deeper level, I personally don't think the holy grail of modern physics, The Standard Model of PARTICLE physics is complete, or even a valid model. There is a reasonable and rational scientifically testable and predictive model that's more complete. Go back and read my reply in this thread to the guy that posted the Wave-particle Duality "Double-Slit Experiment". Does that sound like someone who thinks we've figured it all out. I don't think so.

Lol, white flag! you misunderstand my tone no hostile intent, i completely agree with you. My overall point is i believe such occurrences are to common for nothing to be their.

 

[mike123]

Oh. i misunderstood you then. I thought you meant that the precognition was 10-30 secs before the event. You're saying it LASTS 10-30 secs.

OK, but if you're in the same immediate environment as the person then there's a very high chance that it's just your subconcious mind playing tricks on you coupled with a convincing/supporting bias

Now if you were completely isolated from the event with no prior sensory input, then that would be quiet extraordinary.

i see what ur saying
since whatever precognition i may have doesnt last very long and only puts me ahead a few secs so its hard for me to do much more then take in all the repeated details that are in front of me. And then theres the whole matter of separating predictions from actually seeing what happened. Maybe if i was able to see 30 secs ahead in time and have it last for 30 secs i be able to give a better answer

 

[sean69]

Lol, white flag! you misunderstand my tone no hostile intent, i completely agree with you. My overall point is i believe such occurrences are to common for nothing to be their.

Nah, no hostility here fam. I like these kinds of discussion. And sure they might be common but unfortunately that's not enuff to justify it as a scientific claim. An personal experiential claim, no doubt. Science can't say shit about that. In that "Question for Atheists" thread I pretty much reiterated this a gazillion times starting from page 3 to the last page. LOL.

See, the same could be said about the fact that there are billions of people on earth that share common religious beliefs. But I guarantee you that argument wont fly, particularly on this message board. Sprinkle a little quasi-scientific ideas and all the sudden it's a bit more believable.

i see what ur saying
since whatever precognition i may have doesnt last very long and only puts me ahead a few secs so its hard for me to do much more then take in all the repeated details that are in front of me. And then theres the whole matter of separating predictions from actually seeing what happened. Maybe if i was able to see 30 secs ahead in time and have it last for 30 secs i be able to give a better answer

Yeah. By the way have you heard of those expeeriments where they can predict, pretty precisely, what decision someone is gonna make like 30secs - a minute before the person makes it byt connecting electrodes and stuf to their brain and scanning/mapping brain regions?

The limitation though is that there's usually a very very limited list of objective choices. Much less than in real life situations.

 

[mike123]

Nah, no hostility here fam. I like these kinds of discussion. And sure they might be common but unfortunately that's not enuff to justify it as a scientific claim. An personal experiential claim, no doubt. Science can't say shit about that. In that "Question for Atheists" thread I pretty much reiterated this a gazillion times starting from page 3 to the last page. LOL.

See, the same could be said about the fact that there are billions of people on earth that share common religious beliefs. But I guarantee you that argument wont fly, particularly on this message board. Sprinkle a little quasi-scientific ideas and all the sudden it's a bit more believable.



Yeah. By the way have you heard of those expeeriments where they can predict, pretty precisely, what decision someone is gonna make like 30secs - a minute before the person makes it byt connecting electrodes and stuf to their brain and scanning/mapping brain regions?

The limitation though is that there's usually a very very limited list of objective choices. Much less than in real life situations.

U beat me to both of those lol
and ur right about those limitations. i think they were able to take it as far as movements too but i dont think we can scan enough regions of the brain in realtime for a situation like bumping into an old friend and remembering portions of the meeting like it happened already while its happening. Something tells me those experiments are more related to those times when we have a strong good or bad feeling about something but we just cant explain why

 

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And that's exactly why it's it's an UNCONSCIOUS cognitive bias.

Again, this isn't just a blind conjecture. There's been a lot of research into this using neurophysiological and psychological experiments (at time with synthetic and natural hallucinogens...the later being just modified biochemicals he body produces anyways) that strongly support theory.

It's one thing to suggest some multi-dimensional access portal the brain taps into and other 'theories' like that, but they're just untestable unpredictable conjectures, wishful ideas at best. Don't get me wrong, I have no problem with imagination. But just saying "I don't buy that!" is meaningless without an alternative theory. Theory, not idea. Or religious experience. Which in some circles would be unequivocally dismissed as silly.

As for the dramatic type of precognition you're talking about, I don't know about that. What time-scales are we talking here? Milliseconds? Seconds? Minutes?

A fascinating area in cognitive science is the neuroscience of sensory illusions. Optical, auditory, etc. It teaches us a whole lot about what we think we know about what we don't actually know.

Tical, i'll read your post later. I'm late for tkd practice!

Not to start an argument... but you're spewing a lot of big ass words for someone that don't know what deju vu is yourself.

All the geeky research being done and their answer is the same as everybody else's... they don't know what the hell it is either!

No one does! They can only theorize what it is!

Until people can actually trigger this phenomenon at will, I gonna chalk this up to the unknown... as this thread suggest!


...And stop using big ass college words on a porn board... it's annoying!

 

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remember folk, this is a relax type of thread....

 

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remember folk, this is a relax type of thread....

My bad, Papa... I was getting college debate flashbacks up in here!

 

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Hers a link to a forum devoted to unsolved Mysteries... very interesting!
http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showforum=69

 

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Top 10 Most Amazing Natural Phenomenon in The World


10. Ice Circles

Ice circle is extremely rare phenomenon happen in cold water. The great circle can be found in Scandinavian and North America, and the latest one happen in the UK, in January 2009.

9. Red Tides

A natural phenomena occurs because gathering of microorganisms in the coastal area from the mouth water, sea or river water and make the water purple and red.

8. Columnar Basalt

Rock formations that formed due to the eruption of lava that get cold. Basalt headliner in the world located in the Giant’s Causeway in Northern Ireland.

7. Sun Dogs

The phenomenon where there are 3 suns in the horizon.

6. Moeraki Boulders

Round stones at the beach, formed by waves, located at Koekohe Beach

http://www.worldinterestingfacts.com/nature/top-10-most-amazing-natural-phenomenon-in-the-world.html

 

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5. Penitentes

Natural phenomena that happen only in places between Chile and Argentina. It’s a phenomena of snow in the high surface that pointed. It’s caused by strong wind in the Andes mountains.

4. Light Pillars

Visual phenomena created by the reflection of light.

3. Catatumbo Lightning

Venezuelan call this mysterious lightning Relampago del Catatumbo or Catatumbo lightning. Location of lightning at the mouth of the river Catatumbo in lake Maracaribo, Venezuela. Lightning is a great grab by 5 km high. Occurs 140 times even 160 times during the night in 1 year. Each evening bolt occurred during 10 hours. Every hour there is as many as 280 times bolt. So in a year approximately 448,000 times bolt! Lightning occurs because the collision of the winds originating from the Andes. Some people said that this lightning is the largest ozone layer former on earth.

2. Cave of the Crystals

Cave that containing crystal located at the mining sites in Chihuahua, Mexico

Reminds me of Superman's Fortress Of Solitude!



1. Pink and White Terraces

Natural Wonders from New Zealand that just memories because destroyed by the Tarawera volcanic eruption in 1886. The natural phenomenon of warm water that formed by geysers that blast down the hillside across the thickness of ice left, the largest pool of warm water was recorded around 3 acres. Before the destruction of this phenomenon, It belongs to ” The Eighth Wonder of the World “.

I like the Ice Crystals and the Light Pillars better, but... oh well!

 

[sean69]

Not to start an argument... but you're spewing a lot of big ass words for someone that don't know what deju vu is yourself.

All the geeky research being done and their answer is the same as everybody else's... they don't know what the hell it is either!

No one does! They can only theorize what it is!

Until people can actually trigger this phenomenon at will, I gonna chalk this up to the unknown... as this thread suggest!


...And stop using big ass college words on a porn board... it's annoying!

Well I guess these kinds of threads shouldn't be on porn boards then because I don't see any posts of naked hos in here
Man, FOH with that "porn board" shit.

... @ big ass college words? Stay annoyed?

Based on your logic we might as well stop doing science when we come across shit we can't explain.

Here's the irony, just add GOD as a precursor to every single case posted in this thread and take a wild guess what happens

 

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My bad, Papa... I was getting college debate flashbacks up in here!

 

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http://www.pooktre.com/

yo..this shit is crazy

 

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[sean69]

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Ooooh. I get it.. ....

 

[merce77]

The Mary Celeste (often incorrectly referred to as Marie Celeste) was a brigantine merchant ship notably discovered in December 1872 in the Atlantic Ocean unmanned and apparently abandoned, despite the fact that the weather was fine and her crew had been experienced and able seamen. The Mary Celeste was in seaworthy condition and still under sail heading towards the Strait of Gibraltar. She had been at sea for a month and had over six months' worth of food and water on board. Her cargo was virtually untouched and the personal belongings of passengers and crew were still in place, including valuables. The crew was never seen or heard from again. Their disappearance is often cited as the greatest maritime mystery of all time.

The fate of her crew has been the subject of much speculation. Theories range from alcoholic fumes, to underwater earthquakes, to waterspouts, to paranormal explanations involving hypothetical extraterrestrial, unidentified flying objects, sea monsters, and the hypothetical phenomena of the Bermuda Triangle. The Mary Celeste is often described as the archetypal ghost ship, since she was discovered derelict without any apparent explanation, and her name has become a synonym in British culture for similar occurrences.

 

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[merce77]

The Dropa Stones

The Dropa, according to legend, are a race of dwarf-like extraterrestrials that purportedly inhabited the Baian-Kara-Ula mountains of China. A 1938 archeological expedition led by Dr. Chi Pu Tei into this region led to the discovery of a series of artificially carved caves containing the Dropa Stones.

Each stone, or disc rather, is said to be around 12,000 years old, roughly 9 inches in diameter, has a small whole cut in the center and is etched with a spiral pattern of hieroglyphics. It gets weirder. The hieroglyphics apparently tell a tale of the Dropa coming from outer space and crash landing in the mountains. Allegedly, Dr. Chi Pu Tei’s team also found several neat rows of tombs with 4 ft 4 inch skeletons, big classic alien heads and all, buried inside them.

 

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The Dropa Stones

The Dropa, according to legend, are a race of dwarf-like extraterrestrials that purportedly inhabited the Baian-Kara-Ula mountains of China. A 1938 archeological expedition led by Dr. Chi Pu Tei into this region led to the discovery of a series of artificially carved caves containing the Dropa Stones.

Each stone, or disc rather, is said to be around 12,000 years old, roughly 9 inches in diameter, has a small whole cut in the center and is etched with a spiral pattern of hieroglyphics. It gets weirder. The hieroglyphics apparently tell a tale of the Dropa coming from outer space and crash landing in the mountains. Allegedly, Dr. Chi Pu Tei’s team also found several neat rows of tombs with 4 ft 4 inch skeletons, big classic alien heads and all, buried inside them.

1:12....hmmmmm

 

[merce77]

1:12....hmmmmm

But still, there is no evidence to support any of that Dropa Stone story.

 

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but, shhhhh

 

[merce77]

THE PLAIN OF JARS


Located in the Lao Highlands the Xieng Khouang area is at the centre of a remarkable archaeological site known as the Plain of Jars. Scattered across this region are thousands of stone jars that scientists have estimated date from approximately 2000 years ago. They range in size from quite small to enormous with the largest weighing up to 14 tonnes. Very little is known about the makers and scientific attempts visit the site and conduct excavations are severely hampered by the vast number of unexploded bombs that litter the sites. These munitions are the remnants of the Secret War when the USA carried out one of the most intensive bombing campaigns in all history.

The largest of Jars is located at Site One. It is approximately 12 ft high and weighs an estimated 14 tonnes.



It is estimated that there are more than 10,000 unexploded devices in the immediate region making this one of the most hazardous archaeological sites in the world. Unraveling the true history and origin of the jars is further complicated by the fact that the 1969 bombing campaign effectively wiped the place off the map and scattered the original inhabitants far and wide. There are many theories as to why the Jars were created. Some believe that they were funerary urns for human ashes while others believe they were designed to store rainwater from the monsoons. This does make a certain amount of sense as they are located exactly on one of the ancient trade routes from Northern India. At times they have certainly had a religious significance as limited excavations have revealed that some contained statues of Buddha as well as other offerings such as beads and bronze tools. What is often overlooked is that these jars would have required vast human effort to create, perhaps even on the same scale as Stonehenge, and would have been done for a reason of great significance. For now, their existence is just another ancient mystery that defies immediate explanation.

 

[merce77]

but, shhhhh

 

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1:12....hmmmmm

4:35

 

[merce77]

 

[merce77]

4:35

Damm.

 

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THE PLAIN OF JARS


Located in the Lao Highlands the Xieng Khouang area is at the centre of a remarkable archaeological site known as the Plain of Jars. Scattered across this region are thousands of stone jars that scientists have estimated date from approximately 2000 years ago. They range in size from quite small to enormous with the largest weighing up to 14 tonnes. Very little is known about the makers and scientific attempts visit the site and conduct excavations are severely hampered by the vast number of unexploded bombs that litter the sites. These munitions are the remnants of the Secret War when the USA carried out one of the most intensive bombing campaigns in all history.

The largest of Jars is located at Site One. It is approximately 12 ft high and weighs an estimated 14 tonnes.



It is estimated that there are more than 10,000 unexploded devices in the immediate region making this one of the most hazardous archaeological sites in the world. Unraveling the true history and origin of the jars is further complicated by the fact that the 1969 bombing campaign effectively wiped the place off the map and scattered the original inhabitants far and wide. There are many theories as to why the Jars were created. Some believe that they were funerary urns for human ashes while others believe they were designed to store rainwater from the monsoons. This does make a certain amount of sense as they are located exactly on one of the ancient trade routes from Northern India. At times they have certainly had a religious significance as limited excavations have revealed that some contained statues of Buddha as well as other offerings such as beads and bronze tools. What is often overlooked is that these jars would have required vast human effort to create, perhaps even on the same scale as Stonehenge, and would have been done for a reason of great significance. For now, their existence is just another ancient mystery that defies immediate explanation.

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[RIZZYEATSNANAS]

Thanks 4 this great post

 

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The giant bluestone temple on Salisbury Plain which has stood for thousands of years, and spawned vast acres of discussion, archeological investigation, scholarly speculation and new-age rambling about Crystals and mythological allignments. No-one really knew what it was. Was it a temple? a giant solar calendar? A well-ventilated yet badly-secured barn?

There have been all sorts of suggested uses for the place, too. Some say it was a focus point for sun worship. Others a meeting place for festivals, or perhaps a Lourdes-like destination for pilgrimage. More luridly, it has also been imagined that human sacrifice too place on that altar in the centre.

It’s recently been suggested that the central purpose of Stonehenge was… a music venue?