so just how much better was jordan then kobe?

Yall in here trippin.

Anybody in here over the age of 30 knows the real deal.

The teams Jordan faced in the finals would murder any team in the league today.

Seattle Supersonics:
Gary Payton
Shawn Kemp
Detlef Shrempf
Sam Perkins
Nate McMillan

C'mon man, that team would have a field day in today's NBA.


Portland Trailblazers:
Clyde Drexler
Cliff Robinson
Terry Porter
Kevin Duckworth
and Jerome Kersey (What'chall know bout Jerome. LOL!)

Again, MURDER today's teams.


Phoenix Suns:
Charles Barkley
Kevin Johnson
Cedric Ceballos
Dan Majerle
Tom Chambers (who'd dunk on anybody)
and Richard Dumas (they were calling him the next superstar...before he got strung out on drugs)

These teams had skilled players.

Today's players are extremely athletic, but lack true basketball skills.

:yes:
 
how much better was jordan

to answer the OP's question,

michael jordan is to tobe what wesley person is to tim legler

michael jordan is to tobe what reggie miller is to steve kerr

michael jordan is to tobe what craig hodges is to jim les
 
Kobe has never been physically abused and still put up his points. Hard fouls no lay ups or dunks. (The Jordan rules)

Jordan and Pippen in the post eliminated their need for a big man. Kobe has no post up game.

Jordan was a great defender and help defender. Jordan used to make great defensive plays all the time, especially in crucial moments of games. You don't expect the great defensive play from Kobe like you used to from Jordan.

Kobe is a better outside shooter than Jordan was.


For Example......

 
Kobe haters are always going to be Kobe haters and there are always going to be 5 players in the league better than him. Im talking about players that cant even get there teams into the playoffs are always better than Kobe.

:lol: looks like april69 is bringing the comedy as well.
 

The point over looked the most. Jordan had no peer. No one even came close. Magic had Bird, Russell had Wilt, Jordan had Barkley, Ewing, Miller. What a fucking joke. Jordan is the greatest but his legend is blown the fuck even more cause he had no real rival. Let's really be real. How great were the teams Jordan faced in the Finals. A Laker team with an over the hill Magic. The Utah Jazz twice. The Portland Trailblazers, repeat Trailblazers.....:smh: and the Barkley's Phoenix Sun. Not trying to shit on his legacy but he never really faced his equal. Kinda like Jim Brown running over all them lil ass white boys. He was a step ahead of the evolution chain. I don't think those same Bulls would dominate in today's game. I would guess Jordan would have only about 3 rings in this era over the last 10 years.

Yeah, like another poster said I'm getting a headache reading this shit.

Jordan played against 19 of the 50 greatest NBA players of all time.
Jordan one rings against some of the NASTIEST NBA DEFENSES OF ALL TIME.
  • Bad Boy Pistons
  • Pat Riley Knicks
  • Pat Riley Heat
  • Gary Payton Super Sonics

I don't feel like running the whole list down. But the league was GREAT when Jordan played... and he was till by far the best player. Jordan could never take a night off because all of the teams were GOOD. You HOF players that were BENCH players during their prime. Every game was a WAR. Every game.
Thats how competitive the league was back then.
 
:lol::lol::lol: .... that's all that post deserves

as for the OP's question... Props to Kobe... not gonna diss him at all because he's one of the greats... and I say that as someone who has never been his biggest fan.
Skill-wise, he's damn close... and he has the killer instinct like MJ. The main thing that in my mind seperates h KB from MJ is that as far as I can remember, MJ never disappeared in games... Kobe has. Not lately, but I remember a time within the last 6 years or so when Kobe seemingly did disappearing act on purpose to show the team how much they needed him or some shit. I think it was right after Shaq left, but I'm not sure....

MJ.... I don't think he did shit like that.



This is a bad question
Jordan was not better than Kobe
Kobe is the best of all time. Jordan had help from David Stern. Jordan never won without one of the greatest of all time by his side. Kobe is winning with guys that dont come to play every game. The list goes on and on.
 
I would like to see how Kobe would deal with the contact that MJ had to deal with. You don't really have any enforcers in the league today. Mason, Oakley, X-Man, Zo, Laimbeer, Malone, etc.

In that '92 series in game 7, I remember Jordan punking X when the Knicks were trying to take Pippen out of his game. I'd never seen Xavier get punked liked that before. He couldn't and didn't say shit to Jordan. :smh:

Jordan & X @ 7:18



x man was all up in jordans grill we watching the same video ?
 
Jordan never hit 81. Case closed. If Kobe had Pippen, Armstrong, and Grant...he'd have 10-peat'd by now!

24.."that Kobe number, 1 over Jordan"

Even Kanye knows it...
kobe's nice and all ... but kobe couldn't handle the hard fouls of jordans era


The point over looked the most. Jordan had no peer. No one even came close. Magic had Bird, Russell had Wilt, Jordan had Barkley, Ewing, Miller. What a fucking joke. Jordan is the greatest but his legend is blown the fuck even more cause he had no real rival. Let's really be real. How great were the teams Jordan faced in the Finals. A Laker team with an over the hill Magic. The Utah Jazz twice. The Portland Trailblazers, repeat Trailblazers.....:smh: and the Barkley's Phoenix Sun. Not trying to shit on his legacy but he never really faced his equal. Kinda like Jim Brown running over all them lil ass white boys. He was a step ahead of the evolution chain. I don't think those same Bulls would dominate in today's game. I would guess Jordan would have only about 3 rings in this era over the last 10 years.
Jordan had to deal with GOOD defensive teams in his era ... remember kobe was young but he played in jordans era ... here watch AI school kobe
 
x man was all up in jordans grill we watching the same video ?

Yep. MJ, shoved Pippen away and got into X's grill. Afterwards when X was pushed off by O'donnell, X looked liked he had just been punked. He acted like a pussy the rest of the game. Watch all 10 clips on you tube if you don't have access to it on tape. Check X before and after that incident. I've watched that game no less than 5 times.
 
Was never a jordan fan when I was younger and didn't understand how great he was. But from what I hear about him he was the best. And I find it hard to imagine a basketball player then kobe (at least in the regular season). So just how much better was jordan then kobe? Is it like comparing kobe to joe johnson? Or kobe to mateen cleaves...

Take 3rd grade English over first of all. It's "THAN" not "then." Damn I can't believe you don't know that. And stop starting dumb ass arguments. Jordan is far better period and this is coming from a Laker fan and Kobe fan. Have you been watching the series? Kobe cannot and never will control games like Jordan does. Jordan has the upper hand on smarts and talent. Stop Posting dumb things like this, you make people in our age bracket look bad.
 
I actually thought about it more after your first post breaking it down a couple of years back or so and then, all of a sudden, Kobe made since to me. From that point on, I just appreciate him for what he is.... Im not making anymore statements about his game... the talent is undeniable, but he is certified crazy on the court..not in the Ron Artest kind of way, but in his own special way :lol::lol::lol:

I see a player like Lebron who is too got-damn big to be settling for jump shots and Im like what are you doing Lebron..slash...but I do realize that if a team drops into the paint, he can at times be FORCED to shoot jumpers. This is not an excuse for Lebron..it is a fundamental flaw in his game since he has no post up game or back to the basket game whatsoever.... but then I see Kobe shooting fadeaway three pointers from the corner....and Im like :confused::confused::smh::smh::smh::(:( because I know he could just as easily just get the ball in the post and get off an easy 10-15 footer because, although not as developed as Jordan by far, he does have a post game...

Preach. He's killing us with that bullshit, and he gets ripped a lot too. Rondo ripped his ass several times. He turns the ball over too much, doesn't play smart, and throws a wrench in the offense. Kobe has a lot to work on. btw I'm a kobe fan, but this comparison shit is getting out of hand.
 
Yall in here trippin.

Anybody in here over the age of 30 knows the real deal.

The teams Jordan faced in the finals would murder any team in the league today.

Seattle Supersonics:
Gary Payton
Shawn Kemp
Detlef Shrempf
Sam Perkins
Nate McMillan

C'mon man, that team would have a field day in today's NBA.


Portland Trailblazers:
Clyde Drexler
Cliff Robinson
Terry Porter
Kevin Duckworth
and Jerome Kersey (What'chall know bout Jerome. LOL!)

Again, MURDER today's teams.


Phoenix Suns:
Charles Barkley
Kevin Johnson
Cedric Ceballos
Dan Majerle
Tom Chambers (who'd dunk on anybody)
and Richard Dumas (they were calling him the next superstar...before he got strung out on drugs)

These teams had skilled players.

Today's players are extremely athletic, but lack true basketball skills.

I'm nowhere near 30 but I understand this as well.
 
Everything you said is correct except 1 thing.....Bgol is 18 and under, not 25 and under.

Wow and u said I was stupid because I didn't know how much better kobe was then jordan simply cuz I didn't watch him but u think bgol is nostly 18 and under...lol 18 year olds paying they own memberships huh? Now I can see if u said that was dumb...I swear u gotta be acur 2.0 cuz u say the dumbest shit ever. If anybody bases someone's intellect off of not knowing how much better jordan was then kobe when the person never watched jordan then that makes u dumber then u would like to think u are. I swear bgol is like facebook to bitches. Niggas come in here to boost they ego by trying to display how much smarter they are then other people. Nigga grow some balls and be a man party. U better then that
 
Take 3rd grade English over first of all. It's "THAN" not "then." Damn I can't believe you don't know that. And stop starting dumb ass arguments. Jordan is far better period and this is coming from a Laker fan and Kobe fan. Have you been watching the series? Kobe cannot and never will control games like Jordan does. Jordan has the upper hand on smarts and talent. Stop Posting dumb things like this, you make people in our age bracket look bad.

This is exactly what I mean when I say niggas act worst then bitches. Didn't start a debate really. It turned into one. If I didn't watch jordan then I wouldn't know. I know u don't correct every grammatical error u hear in real life and say something condensendinly to them so why start now? If u need to boost ur own ego that bad fuckin talk in the mirror. U make ur own age look bad. I can tell when someone talkin shit and tryin to boost they own ego...stop it man. Yall nigga is what's making bgol lame. I don't know how much better then jordan was cuz I didn't watch him and to ask the question to people that seen airness makes this a dumb thread...get real$ I hope I'm not like u at ur age.
 
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