this job thing..........

Out of curiosity, can you post a link to the article(s)?

I almost want to compare the fields being filled as opposed to those supposedly staying vacant but 32/220 seems a ridiculous rate regardless.

Still, I wonder how many of those are either part-time (which is better than nothing, I understand) or jerking-your-chain type jobs.

As far as your overall perception, don't forget your state isn't even in the top 10 for unemployment-- Michigan's rate is almost 50% worse than Ohio's.

http://www.bls.gov/web/laus/laumstrk.htm


there was no print article it was spoken about on the local news...

they were talking about the mediocre turnout to the city hosted job fair
 
it amazes me how you throw out job requirements, location for these jobs, fucking amazing

the jobs varied from technical-retail-factory-to medical.

so are you now saying it's the companies' fault for people not having skills/experience/education/creativity?

I offer jobs doing the most simplest thing, sellling phones. all i require is passing a drug screen on that and dress appropriately to an interview. folks can't even do that, BUT are crying there are no jobs..
 
on a dare i went job hunting just to see what the end results would be.

i applied at 28 locations in the past two weeks, went to 11 interviews and was offered jobs at 4 places, all paying more then $14 an hour in northeast ohio.

so what really is the problem????????:confused::confused::confused:

$14/hr. is fine for a kid, but how is a grown ass man with a house and a couple of kids, who might want food, clothes and a trip to the dentist every now and again, going get buy on $14/hr? :smh:
 
the jobs varied from technical-retail-factory-to medical.

so are you now saying it's the companies' fault for people not having skills/experience/education/creativity?

I offer jobs doing the most simplest thing, sellling phones. all i require is passing a drug screen on that and dress appropriately to an interview. folks can't even do that, BUT are crying there are no jobs..

how about salaries, location
 
the jobs varied from technical-retail-factory-to medical.

so are you now saying it's the companies' fault for people not having skills/experience/education/creativity?

I offer jobs doing the most simplest thing, sellling phones. all i require is passing a drug screen on that and dress appropriately to an interview. folks can't even do that, BUT are crying there are no jobs..

how much you pay your employees?
 
how much you pay your employees?

it depends on the position.

avg salesperson makes 30k after hourly(7.500 + commission while the exceptional avg around 45-50k. i have a few scragglers who are making around 22-25k

avg manager before commissions/bonuses makes 29k, then avg out about 15k more in bonuses/commisions, etc

i have 3 regional managers i pay 35k plus bonus/mileage


on the ohio side, i have 3 technicians who i pay on 60/40 scale. so if a warranty job is two hours long that's 100 bucks avg. meaning they made 60 bucks.

i have 3 people that teach and i pay them 15/hr for tutoring and 60/40 on classes that have more then 7 students. so again if i have a microsoft productivity class of 10 people paying 225 each, that teacher makes 1350 to do a total of 12 hours worth of teaching.

finally 1 personal assistant who does all my legwork for me. she gets paid per an arrangement of 200 bucks a week, plus i purchased a 2003 ford escape for her that titles over to her after one year.
 
$14/hr. is fine for a kid, but how is a grown ass man with a house and a couple of kids, who might want food, clothes and a trip to the dentist every now and again, going get buy on $14/hr? :smh:

families of 4 do it all the time in cleveland and north carolina do well i might add. again it's relevant to where you live.

no of course that won't do anything for somebody living in california or new york so adjust the scale as to where you live.
 
families of 4 do it all the time in cleveland and north carolina do well i might add. again it's relevant to where you live.

no of course that won't do anything for somebody living in california or new york so adjust the scale as to where you live.

Bruh, everything you spitting in this post is the truth some people just don't want to hear it. Cost of living is so relative to location it isn't even funny.

People have skills and can't sell themselves. Why is it the people that are always crying they can't find jobs are also the people with the least charisma. I have never seen an intelligent person with charisma that wants to be employed without a decent job.
 
Bruh, everything you spitting in this post is the truth some people just don't want to hear it. Cost of living is so relative to location it isn't even funny.

People have skills and can't sell themselves. Why is it the people that are always crying they can't find jobs are also the people with the least charisma. I have never seen an intelligent person with charisma that wants to be employed without a decent job.
Yeah, so the unemployment crisis is just a figment of millions of imaginations:rolleyes: BTW, a lot of the people hurting from unemployment are recent college grads.
 
Yeah, so the unemployment crisis is just a figment of millions of imaginations:rolleyes: BTW, a lot of the people hurting from unemployment are recent college grads.

:dunno:

i guess now it's just a game of survival of the fittest.....


because i know i can go out and repeat what i did and get 5 more jobs..
 
Yeah, so the unemployment crisis is just a figment of millions of imaginations:rolleyes: BTW, a lot of the people hurting from unemployment are recent college grads.

Bruh, a lot of people are ORDINARY. They don't stick out. I don't care if you go to college for 15 years, if you don't have charisma to get people to like you you wont get hired UNLESS you know the right people.

What is so hard to understand about that? A lot of people that are unemployed for long periods of time couldn't sell ice cold water to a dying man in the desert, how the fuck they supposed to sell themselves? People act like a good living is a right given by nature. It isn't.

Stand out and you will have work, end of story. I look at as a good thing. If everybody stood out think how hard life would really be. :D
 
Those motherfuckers must be growing corn and navy beans in their back yards and making their own clothes on a loom. :smh:

no...

they are usually two income homes...

here;

one makes 14/hr ='ing 2240 a month

another makes say...10/hr ='ing 1600 a month.

total 3840.00 a month.


mortgage/insurance 1200.00 (if that, many rent and avg 850 for 3 bedroom)

2 car notes = 800 (and again i'm inflating, one car new and one used maybe 600 if they are even paying on two vehicles)

utilities (lights, gas, cable(tv/internet) about 350

that right there is 2350.00 covering all of your basics.

1490 left over.

700 savings

790 for whatever. (apply for kids family to do's whatever...)

where's the problem?????

moreso the realistic number for basics would have been 1850.00..

2350 i went overboard.
 


People have skills and can't sell themselves. Why is it the people that are always crying they can't find jobs are also the people with the least charisma. I have never seen an intelligent person with charisma that wants to be employed without a decent job.

like i said.....survival of the fittest...
 
Fuck that interview shit. I have never been hired that way. Only time I ever got a job is through personal recommendations.

So to the brothers that say they're getting fucked I believe you. Whenever my black ass applied for anything I never got shit. :smh:
 
guess i'm not the only one with this line of thought.

yesterday in the local news and papers there was a big discussion about people crying there are no jobs yet companies listing advertisings in classifieds/sites for jobs can't find people to fill them.

220 jobs that were open last week only 32 were filled.

Out of curiosity, can you post a link to the article(s)?

I almost want to compare the fields being filled as opposed to those supposedly staying vacant but 32/220 seems a ridiculous rate regardless.

Still, I wonder how many of those are either part-time (which is better than nothing, I understand) or jerking-your-chain type jobs.

As far as your overall perception, don't forget your state isn't even in the top 10 for unemployment-- Michigan's rate is almost 50% worse than Ohio's.

http://www.bls.gov/web/laus/laumstrk.htm

there was no print article it was spoken about on the local news...

they were talking about the mediocre turnout to the city hosted job fair

Are job fairs worth attending?
Thursday April 8, 2010 6:43pm PDT


If you’re out of work, you might have tried attending a job fair. Many frustrated job seekers claim these fairs don’t deliver on what they promise: jobs.

A job fair Thursday at Texas Station advertised 50 employers on hand with hundreds of jobs available.

“Well, I was watching the news and they were saying that there was going to be all these job opportunities,” said job hunter Cheyenne Brunger. “And I thought this is definitely something I want to invest my time to come down and take a look.”

Brunger and Sonia Comacho-Bell are both looking for work.

Dan Ball: How was this job fair advertised and portrayed to you?

Comacho-Bell: I went to jobsfair.com and it was advertised with probably about 50 potential companies coming to advertise job leads and when I looked into the Web site it showed 200 postings at least. When I finally got in, I was a little disappointed in regards to actually how many companies were there.

“There are dozens of employers, there are hundreds, up to 400, jobs available in that room today,” said LasVegasjobs.com director Dyann Widman.

“The problem with people who walk out of there and say ‘I’m disappointed’ is ‘cause they are still in that comfort zone. They are still not looking at other pages, other possibilities. If they take their experience, if they were doing customer service for 10 years and got let go, that job’s not available anymore, so don’t look for that job, look for another job. Segue your experience into another industry.”

Walking around the job fair, it was difficult to locate 50 employers and nearly 400 positions.

Once thing we did notice was several booths occupied by tech and trade schools or universities and a large number of marketing companies that require you invest your cash and time to create a sales commission-based position.

Linda Panaro, who offers free resume advice at job fairs, says while the fairs may not help everyone, if you’re looking for work it’s a good place to start.

“If you utilize the job fair as a way to practice your elevator speech, be able to network and meet other people, it really can help you get your next job. Because truthfully, the way that people are gonna land their next gig is through connections and reconnections of people that they’ve known or worked with before.”

http://www.mynews3.com/story.php?id=14697&n=5037
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As someone who just recently started working again, I can say, yeah, I had a shitload of job offers in my mailbox that I just ignored because I wasn't going to pay to take some insurance course or be defrauded by some scam group... I was offered so many insurance jobs over the past two months it's crazy but there's a reason they are so easy to get.

There is more than may easily appear on the service... These job fairs are largely bullshit.

:rolleyes: @ "If you utilize the job fair as a way to practice your elevator speech..."
 
Lots of gems in this thread...

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Fuck that interview shit. I have never been hired that way. Only time I ever got a job is through personal recommendations.

So to the brothers that say they're getting fucked I believe you. Whenever my black ass applied for anything I never got shit. :smh:

only time i've ever been hired either
 
Bruh, a lot of people are ORDINARY. They don't stick out. I don't care if you go to college for 15 years, if you don't have charisma to get people to like you you wont get hired UNLESS you know the right people.

What is so hard to understand about that? A lot of people that are unemployed for long periods of time couldn't sell ice cold water to a dying man in the desert, how the fuck they supposed to sell themselves? People act like a good living is a right given by nature. It isn't.

Stand out and you will have work, end of story. I look at as a good thing. If everybody stood out think how hard life would really be. :D


this is true
 
Fuck that interview shit. I have never been hired that way. Only time I ever got a job is through personal recommendations.

So to the brothers that say they're getting fucked I believe you. Whenever my black ass applied for anything I never got shit. :smh:

C/S, I've had 4 jobs in my life, all of them were recommendations.
 
Fuck that interview shit. I have never been hired that way. Only time I ever got a job is through personal recommendations.

So to the brothers that say they're getting fucked I believe you. Whenever my black ass applied for anything I never got shit. :smh:

only time i've ever been hired either

C/S, I've had 4 jobs in my life, all of them were recommendations.

Damn, I never got a job through a personal recommendation. I always looked down on "networking" as cheap, more ass-kissing than merit-based.

Last month, I had to try to replenish my network a little bit. :(:lol::smh: Got to be crunch time...

I'll probably try to be more balanced in my approach in the future, but I still value the ideal of doing for myself over leeching off of others. Yeah, networking is a more friendly and less harmful form of leeching, but it definitely has some symbiotic leech characteristics ingrained in it as a concept.

Buying into that "it's not what you know, it's who you know" shit is self-defeating IMO. As I said, I think I'll seek more of a balance in the future out of necessity, but I want to make it off of the former and not the latter.
 
Damn, I never got a job through a personal recommendation. I always looked down on "networking" as cheap, more ass-kissing than merit-based.

Last month, I had to try to replenish my network a little bit. :(:lol::smh: Got to be crunch time...

I'll probably try to be more balanced in my approach in the future, but I still value the ideal of doing for myself over leeching off of others. Yeah, networking is a more friendly and less harmful form of leeching, but it definitely has some symbiotic leech characteristics ingrained in it as a concept.

Buying into that "it's not what you know, it's who you know" shit is self-defeating IMO. As I said, I think I'll seek more of a balance in the future out of necessity, but I want to make it off of the former and not the latter.


i feel u and i'm pretty much the same way
but shit was on some "right place right time" and i was lucky enough to know the right people. No point in lettin my ego get in the way of makin twice what i would on my on efforts ( if i even got a call back:angry:). But that lucky streak ended a while ago:(, so now i try to focus on creating my opportunities instead of waitin for them to find me
 
With credit card fraud & theft fresh on your record???

Surprise Nigga.

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well, yeah....that's the whole idea of job hunting, finding a position where you utilize your experience/qualifications, etc.....





some stuff i learned looking for a job at other companies

1. most background checks are either 5, 7, or 10 years back. Major companies are the one's who usually go 10 years while most do 7 years.

2. not filling out the EEOE questionaire is usually more damaging then filling it out.

3. a well written cover letter makes all of the difference in the world

4. knowing something about the company you are applying for helps as well too..

5. business/work related references outrump personal reference every time.
 
And this nigga(DOn-DOn) wanna talk shit about my HAIR DRUG TEST. Which went pretty while and I pass fucking FAGGOT...I know something was funny about you damn ass...THEFTING ASS!!
 
With credit card fraud & theft fresh on your record???

Surprise Nigga.

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:lol:

you're really hurt aren't you?

:lol::lol::lol:

seriously your in tears....

your idol got you for 3 years...
:lol::lol::lol:

damn what would you have done if i had said 6 years difference...committed suicide? are you sure your not followup pretending to be a nicca? cause that was one of the people i was hoping would pop up..
 
:lol:

you're really hurt aren't you?

:lol::lol::lol:

seriously your in tears....

your idol got you for 3 years...
:lol::lol::lol:

damn what would you have done if i had said 6 years difference...

Whatsup with that insurance card nigga? I know you saw jagu's comment
 
You're the only one hurt. Your e-persona is MURKED. All the lies, fabrications, bullshit... out the window. :smh:

Nobody is buying the shit you saying no more.

and like I said before you KNOW its deeper than them three years.. nobody gave a fuck about your age until you fraud ass used it as a defense.

:lol:

you're really hurt aren't you?

:lol::lol::lol:

seriously your in tears....

your idol got you for 3 years...
:lol::lol::lol:

damn what would you have done if i had said 6 years difference...committed suicide? are you sure your not followup pretending to be a nicca? cause that was one of the people i was hoping would pop up..
 
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