WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YA'LL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'M ABOUT TO GET IN TROUBLE FOR LAUGHING OUT LOUD.....
Jones-Hopkins II ruined: Green raids the party with a knockout
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WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YA'LL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'M ABOUT TO GET IN TROUBLE FOR LAUGHING OUT LOUD.....
That was brutal, Ive never seen roy look that bad in a fight. It looked like he was experiencing one of these
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Man STOP THE WHOLE THREAD.....EVERYBODY SHOULD READ THIS MANS POST RIGHT HERE...
I swear I used to get so tired of cats with this "Roy was a great"....People talk about Floyd.....well who the fuck did Roy beat? I mean lets be serious John Ruiz
I hate to say this cause I like Toney as a fighter, but dude didn't gain any form of power at heavy. Toney would have still beating him though.
Holyfield was and is past his prime. That's a toss up.
agreed with the rest.
true, but I swear the Jermain got too much hype. B-Hop was cheated and everybody he has fought since then has either been cheated or Jermain took a clear L to them except Ouma and Lacy.
It isn't the chin it's the brutal shots they take because they lost their other skills like agility, timing and speed (to block/parry).
Did you see the shots Foreman was taking from Moore? It was a straight up beat down. I remember feeling bad for Foreman until he dropped Moore.
As far as Toney and Jones, I give them both credit for going up to Heavy. If we are going to compare "the Snuggler" against "the Relic". I give Toney more credit cause Holyfield used to be that dude. Plus I always thought Toney had more true boxing talent than Roy.
"When you beat a legend, you become a legend. And Danny Green is on the verge of history!!!"
Huh?
That shit caught me to. GTFO
Damn Roy... hang up the gloves son. 
Hey Alaska, Jermain beat Bernard straight up in both fights. Hopkins won the last 4,5 rounds of their first fight but it was a 12 rd fight and he clearly lost the first 6,7. Math beat Bernard. He has become vulnerable to athletic fighters something Kelly Pavlik is not.
You forgot Corey Spinks on the list of flat out wins by Taylor. The Wright draw, I thought, was the right call.
I was feeling for George too until Moorer went down. It was just brutal and then POW! Moorer goes to sleep.
Holyfield was that dude but he wasn't even close when James Toney beat him. I like James and he's a HoF'er as well but I give more credit for Roy moving up and dominating Ruiz than James doing the same to Holyfield after Evander had lost to Ruiz.
The few times B-hop has lost it is usually because of the very slow start. He dominated the second half of the fight and had the momentum but he gave away a lot early rounds in the first fight. Though I still think he beat Jermaine(probably my personal bias coming into play) but it could have gone either way.
The few times B-hop has lost it is usually because of the very slow start. He dominated the second half of the fight and had the momentum but he gave away a lot early rounds in the first fight. Though I still think he beat Jermaine(probably my personal bias coming into play) but it could have gone either way.
I like to say "Math beat Bernard Hopkins more than Jermain Taylor".
Good way to put it....
Jermain really didn't win those early rounds. Those rounds were given to him because of his aggression. My argument is that Jermain was more aggressive but he wasn't landing shots, similar to the Wright robbery.
What I was saying is that Post Hopkins, Jermain only has two victories (Lacy and Ouma). Every other fight should have been a L for Jermain.
Holyfield was way past his prime by the time Toney stepped up, but Ruiz never had a prime. I hate bitch made snuggling mother fucker.
Holyfield could still take and deliver a decent shot though. And shit Roy has shown in the past 5 years he really isnt great at either.
The few times B-hop has lost it is usually because of the very slow start. He dominated the second half of the fight and had the momentum but he gave away a lot early rounds in the first fight. Though I still think he beat Jermaine(probably my personal bias coming into play) but it could have gone either way.
Calzaghe spanked him though I cant lie. Hop couldnt handle the punch volume.
After watching both twice I really cant see a different result for Hopkins. He couldnt handle that volume period, his defense isnt based on speed, its technique...Roy on the other hand his problem was he couldnt get out the fucking way like he used to, so maybe he woulda beat Joe. I just think Joe was a terrible matchup for Hopkins.
You might be right.
I'm of the school that believes Hopkins used his "slow start and beat then with my conditioning" strategy in the past on tough fights, but now it is his only strategy cause he's really old. Now that it's his only strategy, he will get beat by anyone with a high punch output AND good conditioning.
In boxing, that's winning the round. One was aggressive and the other wasn't.
I thought the Wright draw was right on. Taylor hit Winky more than anyone I've ever seen until Paul Williams hit him a thousand times.
And Jermain did beat Corey Spinks. Only Corey and his corner thought he won that fight without throwing punches.
All true and uncontestable statements. But Ruiz did beat Holyfield before losing to Roy or before Evander lost to James Toney. Toney can't get more credit for beating a washed up Holyfield than Jones for beating a never-was Ruiz after Ruiz beat Holyfield.
Joe knows, that why he didn't fight either of them 5-6 years ago. He, like a lot of European fighters, prefer to fight in front of friendly judges in their home country than come to America where the paydays and audiences are traditionally bigger.
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