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I didn't write this. Can't say I aree with it completely, can't say I disagree with it either. I grew up in the hood and was probably exposed to more than I should have in a "nicer" community. However, I think this plays into the stereotype that black = crime and crime = black.


Thoughts? And I know this is Acur bait.

http://www.theroot.com/views/out-hood-derrion-albert-parable

Out of the 'Hood—A Derrion Albert Parable
By: Veronica-Marche Miller
Posted: October 4, 2009 at 8:17 PM


My parents made a choice to keep us away from black neighborhoods. Now I realize it may have been a choice between living and dying.




I won’t watch the video. Reading the reports and other people’s reactions is more than enough. The story is devastating, heartbreaking, maddening and enough to send you into a rage. The one thing the story isn’t, however, is new.

That’s because the Derrion Albert video told the world something that we already knew, but rarely spoke aloud: Too many black Americans aren’t safe in their own neighborhoods.

When I think about Derrion Albert, the 16-year-old who was beaten to death outside his Chicago high school on Sept. 24, I think about the very things my dad was working to protect us from when my siblings and I were growing up in the early ’90s. Our home was in Beechview, at the time a quiet, mostly white, working-class neighborhood in Pittsburgh. It made us the butt of jokes from a lot of our black friends, who lived on the east side of town. “No one can find your house!” they’d say. “Y’all live waaaaaaaay over there! Y’all live with the white folks!”

But living with the black folks—in Homewood, Wilkinsburg, East Liberty or on the Hill—was not an option in my parents’ eyes. Yeah, our people lived there—but so did the local news.

Gang violence, drug wars, fights and assaults at schools—all of it showed up on our television screen every night at 11 and every morning at 6. Or we heard about it through firsthand accounts. “Someone got shot across the street last night,” our childhood friends would tell us. “My neighbor’s brother got stabbed last week.” Drives through the neighborhoods, for the occasional visits to see our acquaintances, showed us dilapidated houses, broken windows and groups of men huddled on the corners. Our church sat right across from a rundown housing project, and we were never allowed to venture beyond a one-block radius from the giant cross—because that would put us in gang-ridden Larimer.

But even the sanctity of the church grounds couldn’t fully protect us from what was going on in the neighborhood. I remember being 8 years old and going to the lawn to play it-tag with my friends from the youth choir after a weeknight rehearsal. We were running, giggling, laughing and trying to tackle each other with a glee that you hear only from little kids in the summertime. Then the gunshots. They came from across the street. Now we were really running full speed into the church, into the safety of our parents’ arms. Seeing a group of little ones run into the sanctuary, crying hysterically, was enough to send our parents into hysterics themselves.

It became the norm for my family to venture to the other side of town only when necessary, to go to church and visit friends. We wouldn’t go over there if it got too late. And as for us kids? Well, there was no way we were going over there by ourselves. If our little friends wanted to see us, Dad would say, they were more than welcome to come to our house.

My parents knew back then what we know now about Derrion Albert—that in some neighborhoods, you don’t have to be gang member to get caught up in gang violence and that being a good student, a good kid, can work against you almost as much as it works for you.

Dad didn’t mind being the occasional butt of jokes for living among the “others”—because at least in our home, we didn’t have to try to sleep amid sirens and gunshots. And he didn’t have to worry about whether his children would make it home. In his eyes, the best way to stay alive was to stay out.

We loved our people, but we couldn’t live with them.




Veronica-Marche Miller is a writer and radio producer in Washington, D.C.
 
Re: BGOL, don't raise your kids in a black neighborhood!! Inspired by Derrion Albert

right because white kids never kill anybody :cool:
 
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one word: whitewashed

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Re: BGOL, don't raise your kids in a black neighborhood!! Inspired by Derrion Albert

I agree with the article. If You cannot live in a nice area in the city move to the burbs. I grew up in a nice area in the city and then we moved to the burbs.
 
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i have to agree with a lot of this as well...

from the cities i've seen and where we were raised, and how it is now, what you see in black cities is more negative then positive...

in the 70's and early 80's yeah there were predominately black neighborhoods where people took pride in their homes and raised families right...everybody looked out for everybody

now in NE ohio? those locations are slums. There is a suburb of cleveland called warrensville hts/village of north randall.. for decades this has been an all black solid middle class city. now it's a deserted ghetto filled with section 8 tenants, crackheads and crooks.

so yes mine without a fact will live far away from black neighborhoods and will only venture to them to visit family. and yes if they want to see friends they're always welcome to come over
 
Re: BGOL, don't raise your kids in a black neighborhood!! Inspired by Derrion Albert

the only people who act like they'd be proud of living in the hood are people who never lived in the hood.
 
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right because white kids never kill anybody :cool:

Lame kats always bringing in white people. This article holds truth. When I have kids they will be in a better community playing soccer then in a horrible inner city neighborhood seeing only God knows what.
 
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Be careful where you run too though.............:rolleyes:



CYBERCRIME VICTIMIZATION


Lawenforcement agencies nationally made an estimated
1,713 arrests for Internet related crimes involving the
possession of child pornography during the 12 months
beginning July 1, 2000.

Almost all arrested child pornography possessors were male; 91 percent were white; and 86 percent were older than 25.

Most arrested child pornography possessors (83 percent) had images of prepubescent children, and 80 percent had images graphically depicting sexual penetration. (Ibid.)

Approximately one in five arrested child pornography possessors (21 percent) had images depicting sexual violence to children such as bondage, rape and torture. (Ibid.)

Forty percent of arrested child pornography possessors were “dual offenders,” who sexually victimized children and possessed child pornography, with both crimes discovered in the same investigation. An additional 15 percent were dual offenders who attempted to sexually victimize children by soliciting undercover investigators who posed online as minors. (

A survey of the cyberstalked victims reporting to WHOA in 2004 reveals that 78 percent were Caucasian; 69 percent were women; and 48 percent were between the ages of 18 and 30 years old. (Ibid.)
In 2004, 52.5 percent of the cyberstalkers reported to WHOA were male, 23.5 percent were female, and in 24 percent of the cases, the gender of the harasser was unknown. (Ibid.)
In 2004, 40.5 percent of the cyberstalking victims received threats of offline harassment.

Link: http://www.ojp.gov/ovc/ncvrw/2006/pdf/statistical_overviews.pdf
 
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Be careful where you run too though.............:rolleyes:



CYBERCRIME VICTIMIZATION


Lawenforcement agencies nationally made an estimated
1,713 arrests for Internet related crimes involving the
possession of child pornography during the 12 months
beginning July 1, 2000.

Almost all arrested child pornography possessors were male; 91 percent were white; and 86 percent were older than 25.

Most arrested child pornography possessors (83 percent) had images of prepubescent children, and 80 percent had images graphically depicting sexual penetration. (Ibid.)

Approximately one in five arrested child pornography possessors (21 percent) had images depicting sexual violence to children such as bondage, rape and torture. (Ibid.)

Forty percent of arrested child pornography possessors were “dual offenders,” who sexually victimized children and possessed child pornography, with both crimes discovered in the same investigation. An additional 15 percent were dual offenders who attempted to sexually victimize children by soliciting undercover investigators who posed online as minors. (

A survey of the cyberstalked victims reporting to WHOA in 2004 reveals that 78 percent were Caucasian; 69 percent were women; and 48 percent were between the ages of 18 and 30 years old. (Ibid.)
In 2004, 52.5 percent of the cyberstalkers reported to WHOA were male, 23.5 percent were female, and in 24 percent of the cases, the gender of the harasser was unknown. (Ibid.)
In 2004, 40.5 percent of the cyberstalking victims received threats of offline harassment.

Link: http://www.ojp.gov/ovc/ncvrw/2006/pdf/statistical_overviews.pdf

that's all good and all to post that but show the percentage of how a black male is more likely to gain a felony conviction living in the "hood"

show the statistics of how a child will be exposed to violence in the hood compared to an upper class suburb

we can show stats of what can happen all day. but in comparison, raising kids in a more productive/family oriented environment is always going to be better then a broken blighted environment
 
Re: BGOL, don't raise your kids in a black neighborhood!! Inspired by Derrion Albert

title should be don't raise your kids in a poor neighborhood, Fuck black or white :smh:
 
Re: BGOL, don't raise your kids in a black neighborhood!! Inspired by Derrion Albert

title should be don't raise your kids in a poor neighborhood, Fuck black or white :smh:

unfortunately poor neighborhoods in most major metro areas are predominately minority populated.
 
Re: BGOL, don't raise your kids in a black neighborhood!! Inspired by Derrion Albert

I didn't write this. Can't say I aree with it completely, can't say I disagree with it either. I grew up in the hood and was probably exposed to more than I should have in a "nicer" community. However, I think this plays into the stereotype that black = crime and crime = black.


Thoughts? And I know this is Acur bait.


You need help son. The article is true you. mad I speak the truth so you call it "bait" He spoke the truth. So You give stats like that will make a difference.
 
Re: BGOL, don't raise your kids in a black neighborhood!! Inspired by Derrion Albert

acur your school bus is about to pull up to the corner....u better run...
 
Re: BGOL, don't raise your kids in a black neighborhood!! Inspired by Derrion Albert

acur your school bus is about to pull up to the corner....u better run...

:rolleyes: Get off my jock that little "bus is here joke" is :yawn:.
 
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yet we know you'll be off in a minute (cause it is about that time) so we'll wait....
 
Re: BGOL, don't raise your kids in a black neighborhood!! Inspired by Derrion Albert

title should be don't raise your kids in a poor neighborhood, Fuck black or white :smh:

unfortunately poor neighborhoods in most major metro areas are predominately minority populated.


Ditto......


The title didn't say poor, it said "black"

The self hate is getting stronger by the day on BGOL with these posters.....

Keep your eyes open if you think i'm making up shit

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Re: BGOL, don't raise your kids in a black neighborhood!! Inspired by Derrion Albert

Ditto......


The title didn't say poor, it said "black"

The self hate is getting stronger by the day on BGOL with these posters.....

Keep your eyes open if you think i'm making up shit

:smh:

Kayan how is that "self hate"? The person who wrote the article spoke some powerful truth. Offline You know its' true.

The article is funny I laughed out loud. I know friends of mine who won't raise their kids in the inner city because of the crime and dope selling thugs. I had a homegirl of mine grew up in the burbs who only came back to the inner city for church.
 
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Ditto......


The title didn't say poor, it said "black"

The self hate is getting stronger by the day on BGOL with these posters.....

Keep your eyes open if you think i'm making up shit

:smh:

so are you saying that most "poor neighborhoods" surrounding major metro cities are not filled with minorities?
 
Re: BGOL, don't raise your kids in a black neighborhood!! Inspired by Derrion Albert

so are you saying that most "poor neighborhoods" surrounding major metro cities are not filled with minorities?


There will be a time coming where all the running will stop.........


Whites will be a minority and the runners will have to stop being leeches of communities and actually start contributing to their neighborhoods


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I grew up in a majority black country so i KNOW that poverty has nothing to do with skin color.

In the US it may be correlated but it is never the cause.


When we keep having these attitudes then we can't blame the cops for fucking with our black males because we too harbor the same prejudices that they do.

If you can't see why the title should have said "poor" instead of "black" then I can't help you, you are already a grown man. Going to save my energy to put in work for the youth.

Peace out on the self hate party.


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Re: BGOL, don't raise your kids in a black neighborhood!! Inspired by Derrion Albert

it's a simple yes or no question without pulling stats out of the hat that are irrelevent.

again, are you saying the poor neighborhoods that surround most major metro areas in the u.s are not mostly filled with minorities?
 
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there's been a lot of thruth in this post so I'm not going to quote all of it, but there was one thing that I've always found curious. why is it that even though if you had a choice you wouldn't raise your kids in the hood, why is it that a good percentage of affluent black folks still go to church in the hood?............
 
Re: BGOL, don't raise your kids in a black neighborhood!! Inspired by Derrion Albert

there's been a lot of thruth in this post so I'm not going to quote all of it, but there was one thing that I've always found curious. why is it that even though if you had a choice you wouldn't raise your kids in the hood, why is it that a good percentage of affluent black folks still go to church in the hood?............

because that's where the majority of black churches are built
 
Re: BGOL, don't raise your kids in a black neighborhood!! Inspired by Derrion Albert

it's a simple yes or no question without pulling stats out of the hat that are irrelevent.

again, are you saying the poor neighborhoods that surround most major metro areas in the u.s are not mostly filled with minorities?


Here is a map, you tell me by looking at all the metro areas on it...........



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because that's where the majority of black churches are built

that's true but you'd think that they would want to find ( or try to ) a neighborhood with as little of the bad shit as possible. but it always seems like they will still gravitate to the poorest or worst part of the city like the preacher there is the only one speaking the truth about god...............
 
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Here is another one.............


I have no idea why we think we live all over this country much less to live in most metro areas


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Here is a map, you tell me by looking at all the metro areas on it...........

lol

can't be a "militant" if you're afraid to answer the most basic questions
 
Re: BGOL, don't raise your kids in a black neighborhood!! Inspired by Derrion Albert

lol

can't be a "militant" if you're afraid to answer the most basic questions


The answer is NO: "poor neighborhoods that surround most major metro areas in the u.s are not mostly filled with minorities"



It like arguing with battered wives sometimes.

We want to be viewed collectively as fucked up so that some of us could claim to be different/better.


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Re: BGOL, don't raise your kids in a black neighborhood!! Inspired by Derrion Albert

The answer is NO: "poor neighborhoods that surround most major metro areas in the u.s are not mostly filled with minorities"



It like arguing with battered wives sometimes.

We want to be viewed collectively as fucked up so that some of us could claim to be different/better.


:cool:

yeah, they are....i didn't say poor neighborhoods filled with blacks i said minorities....
 
Re: BGOL, don't raise your kids in a black neighborhood!! Inspired by Derrion Albert

When was the last time you saw news like this?



US high school graduation rate climbs to 69.2 percent

From 1996 to 2006, rates exceeded expectations in many poor, urban districts, a new report finds.



When high school seniors finally grasp their hard-earned diplomas, an average of 3 out of 10 classmates aren't beside them. In some communities in the United States, more than half of high-school students don't make it to graduation.
But despite the complex, stubborn problems behind those numbers, a new report shows a decade's worth of modest gains in graduation rates. In 1996, the national on-time graduation rate was 66.4 percent; by 2006, that figure had risen to 69.2 percent. Much greater gains were made by thousands of school districts, including some struggling with high levels of poverty.
The district-by-district analysis is part of "Diplomas Count 2009," the fourth annual report on graduation rates by Education Week and the Editorial Projects in Education (EPE) Research Center, a nonprofit in Bethesda, Md.
"The good news is that a large number of school districts are making progress in boosting graduation rates, but nationally we're still largely flat-lining ... so [there's] a lot more work to be done," says John Bridgeland, president and CEO of Civic Enterprises, a public-policy firm in Washington that has also studied dropouts.
As concerns mount about US competitiveness globally, the calls are becoming more urgent for improving high schools and ensuring that more students are ready to pursue further education or training. President Obama recently called on all Americans to complete at least one year of education beyond high school and cautioned that "dropping out of high school is no longer an option."
Wide variation
Among states, graduation rates vary widely – from a low of 47.3 percent in Nevada to a high of 82.1 percent in New Jersey, according to the "Diplomas Count" study. Gaps have also persisted among subgroups of students: Non-Hispanic whites gained 4 percentage points in the decade examined, rising to a graduation rate of 76.1 percent; the Hispanic rate rose 1.7 points, to 55 percent; the rate among blacks rose 2.4 points, to 51.2 percent.
Still, researchers see reason for cautious optimism. "The gains are strongest in the places where they're really needed most...: high-poverty areas, big cities," says Christopher Swanson, director of the EPE Research Center.


"The more disadvantaged communities are improving about 50 percent faster than the more advantaged communities."


"Diplomas Count" computes the percentage of public school students who graduate with a standard high school diploma in four years by using a method known as the Cumulative Promotion Index, which enables comparisons across all districts. The research was supported by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation.
Some districts beat expectations
For the first time, the report highlights urban districts that have achieved higher graduation rates than their demographic characteristics would predict (see graphic).
In the Texarkana Independent School District, Texas, 79 percent graduated on time in 2006. Six in 10 of the district's 6,660 students come from low-income families, and more than half are racial or ethnic minorities. District officials credit everything from a focus on early education to alternative paths for high-schoolers on the verge of dropping out.
"We are concerned about graduation rates, but ... we home in on the academic skills of each child and how can we help each child be successful, and ... then our graduation rate will go up," says Ronnie Thompson, assistant superintendent for school improvement. One goal has been to help disadvantaged students catch up in reading by third grade, "because that, we know, is an equalizing factor for the rest of their lives," he says.
An effort to forge strong relationships between students and adults has been one key to the 81 percent graduation rate in Warren Township, Indianapolis, says superintendent Peggy Hinckley. Nearly 4,000 students attend the district's diverse high school, where for many years there's been a campaign focused on respect. In addition to helping students' academic performance, the school has a program called "JAMS: Jobs, Apprenticeships, Military Service, or School."
"We really have focused on getting kids to the notion that it's not just a high school diploma, it's what you're going to do beyond that – so they have a plan," Ms. Hinckley says.
That level of confidence in students isn't universal, however. In a new study by Civic Enterprises, "significant majorities of both the teachers (75 percent) and principals (66 percent) didn't believe students at risk of dropping out would work harder if more were demanded of them," Mr. Bridgeland says. By contrast, the group's landmark 2006 report on dropouts' own views found that 66 percent said they would have worked harder if expectations were raised.
Preparing students for college
"Diplomas Count" also examines how states are helping students look ahead by defining "college readiness" as part of their high school standards. Twenty states already do so, and 11 are in the process, with criteria ranging from which courses a student takes to how well he or she scores on standardized tests. Some states also set standards for so-called "soft skills."
"You see a lot of debate over whether we can we raise graduation requirements and graduation rates at the same time," says Michael Cohen, president of Achieve Inc., a Washington-based bipartisan coalition of governors and corporate advocates for education reform. He says the answer is yes. "Every time states have raised the bar there's been a temporary slight uptick in the dropout rate, but not a huge one, and it typically falls back down."
Texarkana officials second that idea, noting that their graduation rate improved at a time when Texas was raising standards. Students had to pass minimum skills tests in reading, writing, and math in 1996, while in 2006, much harder requirements existed in English, math, science, and social studies.
"What we want are for more students to earn diplomas that are meaningful, that signify preparation for success after high school," Mr. Cohen says.



http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0609/p02s13-usgn.html
 
Re: BGOL, don't raise your kids in a black neighborhood!! Inspired by Derrion Albert

yeah, they are....i didn't say poor neighborhoods filled with blacks i said minorities....


Well provide evidence to back up your claim.........

"poor neighborhoods that surround most major metro areas in the u.s are mostly filled with minorities"


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Re: BGOL, don't raise your kids in a black neighborhood!! Inspired by Derrion Albert

you can post articles all day...


it's still a simple fact.

higher income suburbs do equal a safer, prosperous outcome then living in poorer neighborhoods. and again "unfortunately" most poorer neighborhoods surrounding major metro areas are usually dominantly occupied by minorities
 
Re: BGOL, don't raise your kids in a black neighborhood!! Inspired by Derrion Albert


Well provide evidence to back up your claim.........

"poor neighborhoods that surround most major metro areas in the u.s are mostly filled with minorities"


:cool:

i don't have too...

i see it in a multiple cities with my own eyes...

matter of fact i can't think of a city i've been too where that wasn't how that was....

most on this board will acknowledge the most basic things...
 
Re: BGOL, don't raise your kids in a black neighborhood!! Inspired by Derrion Albert

you can post articles all day...


it's still a simple fact.

higher income suburbs do equal a safer, prosperous outcome then living in poorer neighborhoods. and again "unfortunately" most poorer neighborhoods surrounding major metro areas are usually dominantly occupied by minorities


No that is an opinion................


A fact is a pragmatic truth, a statement that can, at least in theory, be checked and confirmed.
Facts are often contrasted with opinions and beliefs, statements which are held to be true, but are not amenable to pragmatic confirmation

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fact


If it is a "simple fact" then back it up........

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Re: BGOL, don't raise your kids in a black neighborhood!! Inspired by Derrion Albert

i don't have too...

i see it in a multiple cities with my own eyes...

matter of fact i can't think of a city i've been too where that wasn't how that was....

most on this board will acknowledge the most basic things...


then you should have said:


"poor neighborhoods that surround most major metro areas *that i have been to* in the u.s are mostly filled with minorities"



which would make it an opinion and that I cannot argue with...........


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