this shit right here has to stop!!!!! Fathers raise your sons........

Statistics also show that 75% of criminals come from single mother households. In our community you can see the ravages of women raising 2-3-4 kids on their own, never thinking to themselves that they should at least try marriage to their children's fathers first.

The dumbest statement I've ever heard black people say is "Just because you're are pregnant doesn't mean you have to get married". Of course you don't but it would be better.

You can commit to having a child with someone but not commit to making sire that person stays with you and raises that child?

I'd rather marry and divorce than to never marry at all. at least we tried. You advocate not "trying" at all.

Out of that 75% how much do you want to bet that those were ignorant single mothers?

Ignorant enough that they got knocked up by a man that was no good because he didn't stick around for his child which doesn't always = marriage.

I personally don't believe in divorce so I disagree with the "lets give it a shot" approach.

It is till death do you part, or at least that is the vow that you take in front of your family & in "gods house".

How old are you? I bet you're under 25.


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WHAT DOES THE DIVORCE RATE HAVE TO DO WITH YOU.
DO YOU ASSUME AUTOMATICALLY THAT YOU FIT INTO THAT NUMBER
JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE PUT THE SHIT OUT THERE
HOW GOOD IS THE INFORMATION YOU ARE USING
WHO WROTE THAT SHIT ?

YOU ARE EITHER IN THE 75% 0R THE 25%


IF YOU EXERCISE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY
YOU DONT HAVE TO BE DIVORCED AND
MAKE THE SACRIFICE TO RAISE A CHILD THAT DIDNT ASK TO BE HERE.

SOME PEOPLE ARE FUCK UPS
ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOU ARE A FUCK UP SO WHY GET MARRIED ?


SINCE WE ALL KNOW THAT
MOST BUSINESSES FAIL IN THE FIRST YEAR
OR CERTAINLY BY THE 5tH YEAR
WILL YOU STOP TRYING TO PROMOTE YOUR PRODUCT ?
ARE YOU READY TO SAY FUCK IT
WHY TRY ?

I THINK NOT..........
YOU SHOULD HAVE THE SAME DRIVE
WHEN IT COMES TO YOUR SEED.

I HAVE MORE RESPECT FOR A MAN THAT TRIES AND FAILS
THAN A MAN THE NEVER TRIES AT ALL.

All depends on the person.

Like I said above, I have no issues with me getting married one day (probably mid 30s) but I'm not the average person.

Two ignorant people getting married will have an ignorant household which won't fix their ignorance.
 
All depends on the person.

Like I said above, I have no issues with me getting married one day (probably mid 30s) but I'm not the average person.

Two ignorant people getting married will have an ignorant household which won't fix their ignorance.

BY YOU OWN ADMISSION
YOU KEEP CALLING YOURSELF AND YOUR GIRL IGNORANT.
I HAVE MET YOU BRAH
I KNOW BETTER.

Out of that 75% how much do you want to bet that those were ignorant single mothers?

Ignorant enough that they got knocked up by a man that was no good because he didn't stick around for his child which doesn't always = marriage.

I personally don't believe in divorce so I disagree with the "lets give it a shot" approach.

It is till death do you part, or at least that is the vow that you take in front of your family & in "gods house".




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YOUR STANDARDS ARE THAT HIGH ON MARRIAGE BUT NOT A CHILDS LIFE ?
 
And that's why our President and the First Lady are prime examples. Look what we can accomplish as black men when we find the right lady.

Agreed, they're great examples but I hate giving a white woman credit for anything but wasn't the first black presidents mom a single parent?
 
The argument that women being single or having kids alone is all their fault and theirs alone shows the lack of sense of responsibility by Black men. Its men and womens fault. Men do need to step WAY up. Some women are with guys who may be super good guys and normal dudes but get the chick pregnant and dip. And no thats just not "thugs". Some women have just been put in a bad situation because the dude played the good guy role till it was time to be a man then they dipped. Some do pick fuck niggas that they know are no good. But everything isnt the womans fault all the time.
 
The argument that women being single or having kids alone is all their fault and theirs alone shows the lack of sense of responsibility by Black men. Its men and womens fault. Men do need to step WAY up. Some women are with guys who may be super good guys and normal dudes but get the chick pregnant and dip. And no thats just not "thugs". Some women have just been put in a bad situation because the dude played the good guy role till it was time to be a man then they dipped. Some do pick fuck niggas that they know are no good. But everything isnt the womans fault all the time.

Co-sign.....that is why I gave the thread it's title.

Women will fall for anything and as men we know this shit. So the responsibility falls upon us.
 
I'm not trying to be an asshole here, but his fate was sealed when his mama named him Tamontrell.
 
BY YOU OWN ADMISSION
YOU KEEP CALLING YOURSELF AND YOUR GIRL IGNORANT.
I HAVE MET YOU BRAH
I KNOW BETTER.



YOUR STANDARDS ARE THAT HIGH ON MARRIAGE BUT NOT A CHILDS LIFE ?

That is just it, my girl and I will probably never be married but believe that I will be raising my child with her like I have been since the day that she was born.

Us getting together might not end too well.

brb got an 11:00 meeting for some bullshit.
 
And that's why our President and the First Lady are prime examples. Look what we can accomplish as black men when we find the right lady.

This is true. He didn't come with some lame excuses blaming someone else for his problems. Certain brothas have to stop that blame game. Certain kats are quick to say they are a man, yet they run from personal responsibility, character, integrity





Nice Article

What Makes a Man?
For most Black men, the true measure of manhood has been distorted, minimalized, misunderstood and at times; altogether rejected. Our markers are usually measured by our ability to sire children, our looks, earning abilities, physical prowess and other measurements such as reaching the drinking, voting or driving age. Amazingly, some boys are still being indoctrinated to believe they become a man after their first sexual encounter with a woman.

To further aggravate this critical issue, Black boys are constantly bombarded with philosophies and ideologies that only serve to subvert and detract their impressionable minds and hearts from true manhood. For far too many of our sons, their measurement of manhood is determined by their ability to rap, dance, sing, sling crack, play hoops, tag the booty of multiple sex partners and not tolerate being “dissed,” by another “nigga.”

The void of not having more Black men like Johnnie Cochran, Myles Monroe, JC Watts, Frederick K.C. Price and Judge Mathis, reverberates throughout our communities like the Ebola virus. In their absence, we’ve raised a nation of player playas, thugs, misogynists and Brothas who have no vision for life, love, family or community. The shameful legacies these misdirected Black males boastfully pass on are ones of mayhem, dishonor and disrespect.

Regrettably, a large segment of Black males have unwittingly joined and are aggressively promoting the mission of the modern day KKK, which is: Kindred Killing Kindred. In many circles, a Black man shooting or stabbing another Black man has become a badge of honor. Their shifty views about life, women and manhood spews from dangerously unreliable sources. They take their primary cues from the streets, dysfunctional and broken homes, the media, music and Hollywood, counterproductive religious groups, crude Brothas and hostile Sistahs.

In the end, until we get this vital part of the Black family back on track, we all lose: Black, white, yellow, brown and red! However, the brunt of the pain, despair and destruction will always be felt within the homes, communities and churches of the Black family.

Brethren and gentlemen, let’s get manhood right! What makes a man and what is the true measure of manhood? Take notes:

Temperature is measured in degrees
Weight is measured in pounds
Speed is measured by miles per hour
Liquid is measured in ounces
Distance is measured by miles
Time is measured in hours
Hard drives are measured by megabytes
Pressure is measured by PSI
Genius is measured by IQ
True manhood is measured in virtues
--Gillis Triplett, Mastering Manhood

What Are The Virtues of True Manhood?
True manhood is measured in virtues. The best way to define virtue is through the telescope of manly courage and valor. It is the quality of doing what is right when doing what is wrong is much easier.

The virtues of true manhood…

A true man is secure in himself; unflinching in the face of the mixed messages heralded by society concerning: sex, manhood, fatherhood and husbandhood.

He inherently recognizes his duty to God, his family, community, country and government.

He leads with a servant’s heart; filled with love and endued with compassion; concerned about the needs and feelings of his fellowman.

He lives by the law of all for one and one for all.

He never sells out his family or community for filthy lucre’s sake.

His character is marked by his integrity, fidelity and loyalty. No matter how other men conduct or represent themselves, he lives by the law: “My word is my bond.”

He does not leave his family and community vulnerable to risks, attacks or dangers. Protecting them is one of his utmost concerns.

His diligence in fulfilling his responsibilities is demonstrated daily as he vigilantly seeks the spiritual, moral, health, educational, social, and economic prosperity of his people.

He never abandons his flesh and blood or leaves his family or community dangling in the wind.

He is a griot; he perpetuates the family legacy, traditions and vision through the future generations.

How he deals with adversity distinguishes him from the multitudes of males who succumb to temptations, crack under pressure and cower under in times of challenge and hardship.

Always executing that which is right and good for his family and community; he has the courage and resolve to make tough unpopular decisions.

His vision of the family is a loving, vibrant, cohesive, healthy and tightly knit unit and he never jeopardizes that vision.

He does not squint his eyes in the face of injustice or inhumanity; he is resolved to helping and improving mankind.

He is not a respecter of persons.

He prepares his sons and daughters for the future.

He doesn’t misconstrue his kindness as a sign of weakness.

His character is marked by dignity, honor and chivalry.

He is known as a champion amongst champions.

He is able to admit and amend his faults and receive advice and guidance without being arrogant, stubborn or prideful.

He does not recompense evil with evil; instead he repays evil with good.

He is a cultivator and as such, he brings out the best in people.

He respects his elders and comprehends the immense value of their sage advice.

He is called an awesome son, the best brother a sister could have, a true friend, a great husband, a doting and loving father, a trusted confidant, a caring and benevolent man.

His character is marked by his good stewardship.

He knows his God-given purpose and understands and utilizes his God-given gifts, talents and abilities for the benefit and blessing of mankind.

This is the true measure of a man.

May you look into the mirror of life and find yourself measuring up! May you join us, the growing number of Black men at Mastering Manhood who are reshaping the Black family into a wholesome picture of unity, love and fidelity!
 
The argument that women being single or having kids alone is all their fault and theirs alone shows the lack of sense of responsibility by Black men. Its men and womens fault. Men do need to step WAY up. Some women are with guys who may be super good guys and normal dudes but get the chick pregnant and dip. And no thats just not "thugs". Some women have just been put in a bad situation because the dude played the good guy role till it was time to be a man then they dipped. Some do pick fuck niggas that they know are no good. But everything isnt the womans fault all the time.

It's both of their faults but the tragedy falls on the woman. She will have to sit up nights, she will have to deal with lack of money and in the end she will have to deal with the facts that most dudes won't want her because she already has a kid.

A dude can walk away.

It's both of their faults but the female will suffer more than the man. <----that being said, it's up to women to protect their "destiny gates"....
 
IF Barack wasnt POTUS and the dudes nam was Barack you would say the same thing. A name doesnt tell who or what you are.

Barack has a meaning behind it. What is Tamontrell? And you know what's even more sad about this? Just by reading the article and seeing the name I already knew that he was black. The kid probably got teased in school and this was his way at getting back at someone who picked on his little brother. Poor baby. And I'm supposed to feel sorry for him? Hell no. The little brother should've taken that ass whipping like a man and go on with life. Instead, Tamontrell steps in with a piece and will get life. Pity.
 
Good parenting does, marriage doesn't guarantee good parenting.

Prime example:

columbine-first-two-victims3.jpg

no body said gaurantee....they said it helped...learn to read
:hmm:
 
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:confused: saild? You are creating new words now huh. :lol:

fuck you it's early...besides I caught that and fixed it ....now go back to being a fuckin herb.....

although I have to admit I actually agreed:eek: with what you said earlier
 
fuck you it's early...besides I caught that and fixed it ....now go back to being a fuckin herb.....

although I have to admit I actually agreed:eek: with what you said earlier






I knew You were not hopeless as You seemed. Herb not hardly son. Its' not early you lazy ass. The day is damn near over. I started my day with a good run early this morning son. I get up and its' still dark outside. Your late as usual. If You are early you are on time. If you are on time you are late. I learned that early in life, I was raised well.
 
I knew You were not hopeless as You seemed. Herb not hardly son. Its' not early you lazy ass. The day is damn near over. I started my day with a good run early this morning son. I get up and its' still dark outside. Your late as usual. If You are early you are on time. If you are on time you are late. I learned that early in life, I was raised well.

you're a fuckin idiot you know that right?...I'm not in the hopeless fuckin 'D'...I'm in LA bitch..where it is 8:52 in the fucking morning...I been up since 5 am...fuck off......once again you LOST...as usual
 
you're a fuckin idiot you know that right?...I'm not in the hopeless fuckin 'D'...I'm in LA bitch..where it is 8:52 in the fucking morning...I been up since 5 am...fuck off......once again you LOST...as usual

I'll be in the D soon. You are speaking on your dad I'm not him. You need a good backhand. Okay so Your on skidrow in L.A. huh :lol:
 
It's both of their faults but the tragedy falls on the woman. She will have to sit up nights, she will have to deal with lack of money and in the end she will have to deal with the facts that most dudes won't want her because she already has a kid.

A dude can walk away.

It's both of their faults but the female will suffer more than the man. <----that being said, it's up to women to protect their "destiny gates"....

I agree women need to be selective about who they have children with or date. What Im saying is yes, she will be the one thats fucked but what if she chooses right on paper? I know of chicks who dated educated, working men who treated them good and that the women thought were great guys. They played the good guy/good boyfriend role until they slipped up and got the chick pregnant. They leave her and she is stuck with a kid by a guy who she thought was a good man. Is this still her fault? White men and Black men do this. Men are to blame just as much as the women. Thats all Im saying.

And to Jimmiewine. You wouldnt know Barack had a meaning if he wasnt POTUS. You would say it was another ghetto name like Tomtrell or whatever the dudes name is. Alot of "hood" names have a meaning. Names dont make who you are. I bet Barack at a white school got teased more than Tomtrell or whatever did at his prolly Black school. Everyone doesnt have to conform to Euro names and dress to succeed.
 
Nope. Instead, the deadbeats are going to complain about what the mother of the child did that makes them not raise their child... :smh: Shame. Making all those excuses and YOU are the one who chose to get her pregnant
 
Marriage helps. People who have certain standards understand.

WHY BOTHER..........
PEOPLE WITH STANDARDS KNOW WHO THEY ARE.
OTHERS JUST THINK A CHILD IS AN ACCIDENT
THAT SHOULD BE FORGIVEN AND PRETEND THAT IT DIDNT REALLY HAPPEN
 
WHY BOTHER..........
PEOPLE WITH STANDARDS KNOW WHO THEY ARE.
OTHERS JUST THINK A CHILD IS AN ACCIDENT
THAT SHOULD BE FORGIVEN AND PRETEND THAT IT DIDNT REALLY HAPPEN

Your right. The 80Gig is calling me gotta go. I'm Audi 5000 Peace.
 
It's both of their faults but the tragedy falls on the woman. She will have to sit up nights, she will have to deal with lack of money and in the end she will have to deal with the facts that most dudes won't want her because she already has a kid.

A dude can walk away.

It's both of their faults but the female will suffer more than the man. <----that being said, it's up to women to protect their "destiny gates"....

This is a real touchy subject i tried to make a thread about it but people ran in all different directions. At the end of the day a woman decides if she wants to have a child with a complete asshole drug dealing retarded idiot type fool with no self respect no up bringing no common sense no future or she chooses not to have his child.

People can scream about men need to grow up and be fathers... or in addition you can scream women need to stop making babies with fucking idiots.


It takes two.:eek:
 
:yes:
OK............

TELL ME HOW MANY OTHER SHOOTING
WERE IN THEIR COMMUNITY .........

THEN TELL ME HOW MANY OTHER SHOOTINGS THERE WERE IN THE
COMMUNITY OF THE SUBJECT IN THIS THREAD.

THERE ARE NO ,AND HAVE BEEN NO SHOOTINGS IN MY COMMUNITY
AMONG TEENS AT ALL OR ANYONE ELSE FOR THAT MATTER.
YES THERE ARE SINGLE PARENTS
BUT THE MAJORITY ARE TWO PARENT FAMILIES
AND YES THERE IS DYSFUNCTION
BUT NO ONE GOT KILLED THIS YEAR OR LAST YEAR
FOR THAT MATTER.

STATISTICALLY THE CHANCES OF GETTING SHOT
ARE FAR WORSE IN COMMUNITIES WHERE
IT IS AN ACCEPTED PRACTICE FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE KIDS
JUST FOR THE HELL OF IT.

SEE MY POINT ?

IM NOT LOOKIN DOWN MY NOSE AT ANYONE
BUT TRYING TO JUSTIFY OUR BEHAVIOR WITHOUT
RECOGNIZING THE CONSEQUENCES IS BULLSHIT

People never look at the %:smh:
 
right after you learn to proof read

like I said learn to read nigga...a space between letter aint shit get over it...you understood what I typed but obviously you're the type whose quick to criticizes without ACTUALLY READING what you are criticizing
 
WHY BOTHER..........
PEOPLE WITH STANDARDS KNOW WHO THEY ARE.
OTHERS JUST THINK A CHILD IS AN ACCIDENT
THAT SHOULD BE FORGIVEN AND PRETEND THAT IT DIDNT REALLY HAPPEN

This is a real touchy subject i tried to make a thread about it but people ran in all different directions. At the end of the day a woman decides if she wants to have a child with a complete asshole drug dealing retarded idiot type fool with no self respect no up bringing no common sense no future or she chooses not to have his child.

People can scream about men need to grow up and be fathers... or in addition you can scream women need to stop making babies with fucking idiots.


It takes two.:eek:

:yes:
 
This is a real touchy subject i tried to make a thread about it but people ran in all different directions. At the end of the day a woman decides if she wants to have a child with a complete asshole drug dealing retarded idiot type fool with no self respect no up bringing no common sense no future or she chooses not to have his child.

People can scream about men need to grow up and be fathers... or in addition you can scream women need to stop making babies with fucking idiots.


It takes two.:eek:

I also agree:dunno:
 
Nope. Instead, the deadbeats are going to complain about what the mother of the child did that makes them not raise their child... :smh: Shame. Making all those excuses and YOU are the one who chose to get her pregnant

It's disgusting how they complain we don't take responsibility ... all the while they are running from it themselves:smh:

Of course the woman holds responsibility for who she fucked and let cum inside of her ... but the last time I checked it took 2 to tango ... so the responsibility lies on both the mother and father

Plus these "brothas":rolleyes: are worse than White people ... they see the boys skin colour and assume he was raised by a single mom that the dad is not there blahblahblah ... they throwing every stereotype available out there without knowing the full situation ... all the while complaining about how the media portrays them negatively:rolleyes::smh: This finger pointing is killing us:smh:
 
On another note society is fucked up when people are trying to make a case for single parents being a better option or equal to having two responsible adults showing love affection support teaching respect and nurturing.
 
On another note society is fucked up when people are trying to make a case for single parents being a better option or equal to having two responsible adults showing love affection support teaching respect and nurturing.

Exactly.........they want the woman to be a single mother but expects the dad to pay child support...:hmm:...Not saying a dad shouldnt cuz its wrong but society cant havent both ways either...
 
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