Feminism's Fatal Flaw-Equality

This timing out is crazy on BGOL...

Anyway, I agree with the guy 100% that men and women are not equal. Men are stronger physically. Men AND women are emotional creatures, so I never buy into that mess about men being more rational and les emotional. Plenty of over-emotional men on BGOL. There are certain roles only a man can fill, and vice versa for women. But I do think society and men expect so much more from women.

Why should I make 80 cents on the dollar for doing the same job as a man? A lot of men will say that we get maternity leave so we should not get the same pay. But if you really sit and think about it, not only do we work full-time, we also raise our children and take care of our husbands. So technically we are holding down at least 2 jobs, so we should be paid more. But we are only asking to be paid the same...

I do not get his point about holding doors open, etc, meaning that we are not equal. What does a man being chivalrous have to do with me getting paid the same for doing the same work?MY OPINION
Women will and should get paid the same, on the day when a man shouldn't feel like he has to get a woman an expensive ass engagement ring to marry her. Or when he divorces her he won't lose his house outright, OR have to pay alimony.
 
So you don't have an explanation?

Actually, I do...

I just thought that I wouldn't have to state the obvious.

So....

Where do you want me to begin?

I can talk about how Feminazism has made a mockery of the once-sacred institution of marriage. Making it a lose-lose prospect for the men involved.


I can talk about how Feminazism has caused the laws in this society to work in women's favor.


I can talk about how Feminazism-with the help of the Sexual Revolution-gave birth to a generation women who spend most of their time trying to out-whore each other.

I can talk about how Feminazism used and still uses propaganda to make women believe that every person with "two balls and a bat" is a worthless excuse for a human being with a propensity for violence, sexual deviancy, pedophilia, and every other atrocity under the sun.

I can talk about how Feminazism uses the school system to emasculate boys at an early age. While at the same time teaching little girls that they indeed made of "sugar, spice, and everything nice" and can do no wrong.

I can talk about how Feminazism made women (especially Black women) believe that they "don't need a man" to raise kids. Thus, spawning a generation of criminals and whores.

Hell, I can talk about all that and many other reasons as to why men should (and do) have a serious problem with Feminism.

Just tell me where you want to start........
 
funny how we brothers quick to say chivalry and 100% equality is impossible:smh:
yet be like affirmative action and 100% equality is possible:yes:
:confused:
anti-fem thinking like this makes me wonder why no one can't see the bigger picture:hmm:
 
funny how we brothers quick to say chivalry and 100% equality is impossible:smh:
yet be like affirmative action and 100% equality is possible:yes:
:confused:
anti-fem thinking like this makes me wonder why no one can't see the bigger picture:hmm:

You're more than welcome to show me where I said that.

And while you're at it enlighten me on the bigger picture.

Seriously.....
 
funny how we brothers quick to say chivalry and 100% equality is impossible:smh:
yet be like affirmative action and 100% equality is possible:yes:
:confused:
anti-fem thinking like this makes me wonder why no one can't see the bigger picture:hmm:

Affirmative action was and is necessitated by a lack of socio-economic equality, chivalry is an expected (or at least desired) preferential treatment based on gender. How do you tie those together?

Chivalry by it's own modern definition contradicts equality because again, it is preferential treatment based on gender.

[chivalry - noun 1. courtesy towards women]

In a true equality (relating to chivalry) the first person to get to the door opens the door, first person to the table pulls out the chairs.

If we were offered true socio-economic equality affirmative action would not be necessary at all.
 
Women will and should get paid the same, on the day when a man shouldn't feel like he has to get a woman an expensive ass engagement ring to marry her. Or when he divorces her he won't lose his house outright, OR have to pay alimony.
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There's plenty of over-emotional men for the same reason that there are heartless women, because our society is totally screwed up. That's why and daddy not being there and the extreme feminazis on the left are the reason for both. Both are the reason that men are 30 years old and don't know how to be men and why 30 year old women don't know how to be ladies.

Simple as that. And why is it your job's place to pay you for child care? You chose to have them. And most parents I know drop their kids off at school or day care while they work, so what how many women do you know that are at work and taking care of their kids at the same time? What kind of office is that? And other than a half-hearted ass blow job once in a blue moon, how do women "take care of their husbands" these days. Now, our mamas and grandmamas did all that shit, but in this generation? Most women are like "Nigga, you can get your own sandwhich/glass of water/TV remote/newspaper."

And then you top it off with the fact that women don't cook, clean or do anything today that's considered womens work these, which is why the kids are so obese from eating at McDonalds and Burger King everyday.

You guys can't have it both ways. You can't look down on your mothers and grandmothers and swear off "women's work" because it's "old-fashion", while at the same wanting to take credit for all the stuff that they did, but that YOU guys don't do anymore.

Let's be serious, most of you guys get in the morning and go to work, just like most of us do and then you come home and do basically the same shit that we do, with the exception of more shopping on your part, while we watch sports or play Playstation and shit. Women in general are not domestics today.

In fact, I cook more than any woman I know.(outside of my mother), but men are still supposed to know how to fix tires, change the oil, take out the garbage, carry all the heavy shit, protect you if somebody breaks in with the bat/guy under the bed and defend your honor if somebody fucks with you in the club.

and most of all, women do not make 80% of what men do. When you factor in the "flex" schedules that mothers work sometimes where they work 4 days out of the week instead of 5 and and the time off for pregnancy and family time, they actually make 98% of what men make. And even more per hour sometimes.

http://www.iwf.org/iwfmedia/show/20132.html



Are you on crack? There are plenty of 165, 170 lb running backs, cornerbacks, return men, and kickers and punters in the NFL. Do you think Deion Sanders and Devin Hester and Marvin Harrison are all 6'4" 250 lbs?

Please tell me you're a woman and not a brain dead simp.



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LesW said:
yet be like affirmative action and 100% equality is possible

(meaning you shouldn't ask for affirmative action if you have true equality)

If we were offered true socio-economic equality affirmative action would not be necessary at all.

how are you disagreeing? I mean it seems like you WANT to disagree but then you end up provin my point for me. Are you lost youngin? :dunno:
 
(meaning you shouldn't ask for affirmative action if you have true equality)



how are you disagreeing? I mean it seems like you WANT to disagree but then you end up provin my point for me. Are you lost youngin? :dunno:

Chances are I'm as old if not older than you. At any rate, the point I made is that chivalry and 100% equality are in fact impossible. I also expounded on the fact that affirmative action and socioeconomic equality are impossible as well because by having one (true socioeconomic equality) the other (affirmative action) is rendered moot, youngin.

In both instances you can have one or the other but not both, if I misread you, meh, it happens.
 
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I ain't read all the shit above me but, I'm gonna say that with all the advancements women have made - they still lost.

You know why, because now they got everything in terms of equality and yet are still unhappy. The reason why because they are not given the one thing all women want: marriage (some want a steady partner, which is the same shit).

Look at the stats - marriage is on the decline.

Women want marriage and want to be treated like "ladies" as per the old days, yet they want to be sexually liberated. What does that result in??

Them letting men fuck them and not even get anywhere cus the men are not gonna marry some "sexually liberated" = "hoe" woman as their wife.

On top of that, with all the "advancements" women are still seen as sex objects. Its gotten worse and worse.

You women lost.
 
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Chances are I'm as old if not older than you. At any rate, the point I made is that chivalry and 100% equality are in fact impossible. I also expounded on the fact that affirmative action and socioeconomic equality are impossible as well because by having one (true socioeconomic equality) the other (affirmative action) is rendered moot, youngin.

In both instances you can have one or the other but not both, if I misread you, meh, it happens.

no doubt - respeck ;)
 
Women will and should get paid the same, on the day when a man shouldn't feel like he has to get a woman an expensive ass engagement ring to marry her. Or when he divorces her he won't lose his house outright, OR have to pay alimony.

Preach:angry::angry: they want to be equal then when shit hit the fan they wanna cry to court they cant take care of themselves but the man is expected to takecare of himself and the trick :angry::angry::angry:
 
this is an interesting post

so are you referring to feminism (which has MANY definitions and various types of movements) or a specific movement by the extremist who are candidly called feminazis?

2ndly, you claim to be in agreement with the person in the video as to the thought process of difference versus equality and chauvinism, i find that hard to believe based on your sig. be upfront about your stance on the situation cuz it looks like your talkin out of both sides of your mouth.

now if i am wrong about you sharing views with the blogger than i do apologize AND your sig is still suspect.
 
Women will and should get paid the same, on the day when a man shouldn't feel like he has to get a woman an expensive ass engagement ring to marry her. Or when he divorces her he won't lose his house outright, OR have to pay alimony.
(1) Who taught you that you need to get an expensive engagement ring to marry a woman? There are plenty of women (including some on BGOL) who do not want/expect an engagement ring. If it is not something you agree with or believe in, step outside of the box and ask your woman to marry you however you see fit. Add up the cost of the average engagement ring and then compare it to getting paid 80 cents on the dollar for every dollar you earn for the 40 years you work. I think it pales in comparison.

(2) Whoever made the majority of the income should pay alimony. There are women who pay alimony, but things being the way they are in society (pay structure, women usually the at-home parent if there is one) men will most of the time be the ones paying alimony.
 
Yeah, but real talk, the way this is taught to men, is that you have to do it because women are soft and delicate creatures we have to protect from the real world. Even the equality talk is usually fake, just letting her feel secure even though she could never handle things on her own.

Try to take a step back, look at chivalry and all of that impartially. We treat you like children, and tell you anything you want to hear. You love us for it. Give yourselves as possessions for it. You think it's easy to respect y'all after that? You can spin chivalry however you want, but it's obvious how we as men usually see it.

In a relationship, all of the things we do for each other can be different. I'm talking in general.
That is too bad that you are taught we poor delicate creatures can not pull out our own chairs and that equality talk is just lip service. My brothers were taught that it is the polite thing to do. You do not have to tell a woman anything she wants to hear. That is childish and you lose out in the short and long run.
 
Peace,

Can someone explain to me why so many cats are threatened by feminism?

Cause majority of these kats are mommas boys to begin with. You know the new black man of this decade is more feminine and is more likely to be laying on the couch eating ice cream and watching soaps waiting for his girl to come home from work to cook his dinner and take care of the kids
 
(1) Who taught you that you need to get an expensive engagement ring to marry a woman? There are plenty of women (including some on BGOL) who do not want/expect an engagement ring. If it is not something you agree with or believe in, step outside of the box and ask your woman to marry you however you see fit. Add up the cost of the average engagement ring and then compare it to getting paid 80 cents on the dollar for every dollar you earn for the 40 years you work. I think it pales in comparison.

(2) Whoever made the majority of the income should pay alimony. There are women who pay alimony, but things being the way they are in society (pay structure, women usually the at-home parent if there is one) men will most of the time be the ones paying alimony.

Who taught me? It's not about one woman, or two. Or even the woman on BGOL. You see, people often look at themselves or the small sample size around them and use that as if it were true of all people.

Go turn on the TV. Go talk to people in professional environments.

I could say there are tons of women on here getting paid more than men here, but that won't make it true of women in general.
 
Cause majority of these kats are mommas boys to begin with. You know the new black man of this decade is more feminine and is more likely to be laying on the couch eating ice cream and watching soaps waiting for his girl to come home from work to cook his dinner and take care of the kids

Don't be foolish. It's not as black and white as it seems.

I can only speak for myself, and when it comes to feminism it's clear that at it's core its a bullshit movement.

Saying that doesn't mean I expect the woman to do what you said above and just be nothing, I actually prefer a woman who's college educated, has goals and aspirations, over one who just wants to be a housewife.

HOWEVER, you can't have your cake and eat it too, and that's what feminism is about. It's about people who want the same benefits men have without any of the pitfalls.

They want the best of what men have, while still keeping the differences that help THEM.

True feminism would be fighting for equality for women's rights on both sides. Not just fighting for equal pay, but for more shared opportunities.

Small example. Women want to become firemen. But they don't want to pass the test how it's made, they want the requirements LOWERED because they are women and naturally weaker than men. That shouldn't be so. True equality would mean that the requirements are the same, period. Sure it's slanted towards men, but when it comes to something like saving lives, you don't want to have lowered requirements for no reason.

Also, part of the reason the new man (it's not just black men) is more feminine is because more is being taken away. Studies have been done that show career driven women are more likely to have failed marriages than women who are closer to the traditional.

I personally believe in shared responsibility, but today's woman (since we're quick to judge) is more apt to give up on things once it starts to become difficult.

And I feel that other dude on women being stock workers in retail. I had a job where i was the stock worker, and they took me out of there to put me on the sales floor and replaced me with a girl that was half my size, for no reason other than to hook someone up with a job. The clothing racks often came off the track and you would have to physically lift them and put them back. These are big racks 10ft high. I ended up spending more time helping her with difficulties she faced than i did on the floor. Poor management because they should have left me where I was and put her on the floor.
 
funny how we brothers quick to say chivalry and 100% equality is impossible:smh:
yet be like affirmative action and 100% equality is possible:yes:
:confused:
anti-fem thinking like this makes me wonder why no one can't see the bigger picture:hmm:

You're more than welcome to show me where I said that.

And while you're at it enlighten me on the bigger picture.

Seriously.....

Like Grimm, I also didn't say that.

Just like I agreed that chivalry and equality can not co-exist. I will agree that affirmative and equality can not co-exist.

In fact, inequality has spawned a lot of things,
Affirmative action
womens rights
civil rights
religious rights
equal pay laws
discrimination laws
etc.
etc.
discri
 
There's plenty of over-emotional men for the same reason that there are heartless women, because our society is totally screwed up. That's why and daddy not being there and the extreme feminazis on the left are the reason for both. Both are the reason that men are 30 years old and don't know how to be men and why 30 year old women don't know how to be ladies.

Simple as that. And why is it your job's place to pay you for child care? You chose to have them. And most parents I know drop their kids off at school or day care while they work, so what how many women do you know that are at work and taking care of their kids at the same time? What kind of office is that? And other than a half-hearted ass blow job once in a blue moon, how do women "take care of their husbands" these days. Now, our mamas and grandmamas did all that shit, but in this generation? Most women are like "Nigga, you can get your own sandwhich/glass of water/TV remote/newspaper."

And then you top it off with the fact that women don't cook, clean or do anything today that's considered womens work these, which is why the kids are so obese from eating at McDonalds and Burger King everyday.

You guys can't have it both ways. You can't look down on your mothers and grandmothers and swear off "women's work" because it's "old-fashion", while at the same wanting to take credit for all the stuff that they did, but that YOU guys don't do anymore.

Let's be serious, most of you guys get in the morning and go to work, just like most of us do and then you come home and do basically the same shit that we do, with the exception of more shopping on your part, while we watch sports or play Playstation and shit. Women in general are not domestics today.

In fact, I cook more than any woman I know.(outside of my mother), but men are still supposed to know how to fix tires, change the oil, take out the garbage, carry all the heavy shit, protect you if somebody breaks in with the bat/guy under the bed and defend your honor if somebody fucks with you in the club.

and most of all, women do not make 80% of what men do. When you factor in the "flex" schedules that mothers work sometimes where they work 4 days out of the week instead of 5 and and the time off for pregnancy and family time, they actually make 98% of what men make. And even more per hour sometimes.

http://www.iwf.org/iwfmedia/show/20132.html



Are you on crack? There are plenty of 165, 170 lb running backs, cornerbacks, return men, and kickers and punters in the NFL. Do you think Deion Sanders and Devin Hester and Marvin Harrison are all 6'4" 250 lbs?

Please tell me you're a woman and not a brain dead simp.


You sir...





.....are FUCKING AWESOME.
 
how many skinny niggas do u see in the nfl? you know how much weight training and excersize players have to go through, im sure it would be the same for women

they usually play wide receiver and yeah there are plenty of them. I gotta know, what woman took your balls away from you or are you just one arguin' for the sake of arguin' ass nicca?
 
He's right feminism's flaw is in the contradiction of what the female activist suggest is progress vs. what women in general naturally want. "either you want to be equal or you want to be women". you can't have both, they don't coexist. I might be wrong.
 
(1) Who taught you that you need to get an expensive engagement ring to marry a woman? There are plenty of women (including some on BGOL) who do not want/expect an engagement ring. If it is not something you agree with or believe in, step outside of the box and ask your woman to marry you however you see fit. Add up the cost of the average engagement ring and then compare it to getting paid 80 cents on the dollar for every dollar you earn for the 40 years you work. I think it pales in comparison.

(2) Whoever made the majority of the income should pay alimony. There are women who pay alimony, but things being the way they are in society (pay structure, women usually the at-home parent if there is one) men will most of the time be the ones paying alimony.

Why?

So to be safe, I can only marry a woman who makes more than me?

All of these marriage laws are detrimental to men, why get married in the first place?
 
Actually, I do...

I just thought that I wouldn't have to state the obvious.

So....

Where do you want me to begin?

I can talk about how Feminazism has made a mockery of the once-sacred institution of marriage. Making it a lose-lose prospect for the men involved.


I can talk about how Feminazism has caused the laws in this society to work in women's favor.


I can talk about how Feminazism-with the help of the Sexual Revolution-gave birth to a generation women who spend most of their time trying to out-whore each other.

I can talk about how Feminazism used and still uses propaganda to make women believe that every person with "two balls and a bat" is a worthless excuse for a human being with a propensity for violence, sexual deviancy, pedophilia, and every other atrocity under the sun.

I can talk about how Feminazism uses the school system to emasculate boys at an early age. While at the same time teaching little girls that they indeed made of "sugar, spice, and everything nice" and can do no wrong.

I can talk about how Feminazism made women (especially Black women) believe that they "don't need a man" to raise kids. Thus, spawning a generation of criminals and whores.

Hell, I can talk about all that and many other reasons as to why men should (and do) have a serious problem with Feminism.

Just tell me where you want to start........

Preach!!!

funny how we brothers quick to say chivalry and 100% equality is impossible:smh:
yet be like affirmative action and 100% equality is possible:yes:
:confused:
anti-fem thinking like this makes me wonder why no one can't see the bigger picture:hmm:

Like Grimm, I also didn't say that.

Just like I agreed that chivalry and equality can not co-exist. I will agree that affirmative and equality can not co-exist.

In fact, inequality has spawned a lot of things,
Affirmative action
womens rights
civil rights
religious rights
equal pay laws
discrimination laws
etc.
etc.
discri


Absolutely retarded statement. Affirmative Action exists because you can absolutely segregate and sabotage a group with racial discrimination. You can enslave an entire race(cant do that with gender). You can ensure that an entire race gets inferior education and health care and treatment by the justice system(you can't do that with gender either). You can't sabotage a gender, you know why? Because every bigot has a mother, daughter, or women in his family that he has to take care of, that's why there isn't ever been on a large scale housing, education, and a legal system for men and women. That's why even when women's rights were at an all-time low, you'd still rather be a White woman, than Black man, trust me. How many women were lynched just for being women, compared with how many were lynched, raped, murdered just for being Black?

Race and gender are two very different monsters my friend. The man in charge aint gonna let society shit on his family. He might do it and beat his wife and rape his daughters, but he can completely separate himself from a race and completely subjugate a race to complete inequality for a prolonged time.

I ain't read all the shit above me but, I'm gonna say that with all the advancements women have made - they still lost.

You know why, because now they got everything in terms of equality and yet are still unhappy. The reason why because they are not given the one thing all women want: marriage (some want a steady partner, which is the same shit).

Look at the stats - marriage is on the decline.

Women want marriage and want to be treated like "ladies" as per the old days, yet they want to be sexually liberated. What does that result in??

Them letting men fuck them and not even get anywhere cus the men are not gonna marry some "sexually liberated" = "hoe" woman as their wife.

On top of that, with all the "advancements" women are still seen as sex objects. Its gotten worse and worse.

You women lost.

The biggest problem is that women don't want to be seen as "sex objects". Men, in general because of our genetic make up want sex and want it a lot, but women try to make us feel bad for it. What they should want is to be seen as a sex object by the right guy, their husband or boyfriend. He should respect your mind and tear yo ass up at night. He should want to fuck you senseless. Women try to make men feel bad for that, though. Then, they go out and fuck dudes that they know see them only as sex objects, while at the same time making decent guys feel bad about wanting ass.



Cause majority of these kats are mommas boys to begin with. You know the new black man of this decade is more feminine and is more likely to be laying on the couch eating ice cream and watching soaps waiting for his girl to come home from work to cook his dinner and take care of the kids

How many Black women you know cook and take care of the kids today? I don't know not one woman under 30 who cooks regularly. What are you like 50 or something?


(1) Who taught you that you need to get an expensive engagement ring to marry a woman? There are plenty of women (including some on BGOL) who do not want/expect an engagement ring. If it is not something you agree with or believe in, step outside of the box and ask your woman to marry you however you see fit. Add up the cost of the average engagement ring and then compare it to getting paid 80 cents on the dollar for every dollar you earn for the 40 years you work. I think it pales in comparison.

(2) Whoever made the majority of the income should pay alimony. There are women who pay alimony, but things being the way they are in society (pay structure, women usually the at-home parent if there is one) men will most of the time be the ones paying alimony.

Your are not the majority opinion in our soceity. Most women want that 3 months of salary right, I'm sorry. They do. Maybe you don't and God bless you. I hope I find a girl who's as sensible as you are, but most women are not like you today in our society.

Now, I already discredited the "80 cents on the dollar" argument you made in my last post, so you might wanna re-read that.

In terms of alimony. It has been assumed historically that the man is the breadwinner and the woman is the homemaker, that's why the rules are what they are. You'd better believe if they re-adjusted alimony rules for today, it'd be totally different. A few guys like Kevin Federline and Guy Ritchie benefit, but overall the reason it's split like that is that the woman, who usually has the kids and isn't out in the workforce(historically) and wouldn't be able to raise her kids on her own with the same standard of living as her spouse who has all the money. That's why they are what they are. I'll be honest, I love seeing dudes like Nick Lachey make out like bandits, especially when I read somewhere that his wife didn't want a pre-nup because HE was the bigger star at the time they got married, but then it switched and she was the one who had to pay.
 
Don't be foolish. It's not as black and white as it seems.

I can only speak for myself, and when it comes to feminism it's clear that at it's core its a bullshit movement.

Saying that doesn't mean I expect the woman to do what you said above and just be nothing, I actually prefer a woman who's college educated, has goals and aspirations, over one who just wants to be a housewife.

HOWEVER, you can't have your cake and eat it too, and that's what feminism is about. It's about people who want the same benefits men have without any of the pitfalls.

They want the best of what men have, while still keeping the differences that help THEM.

True feminism would be fighting for equality for women's rights on both sides. Not just fighting for equal pay, but for more shared opportunities.

Small example. Women want to become firemen. But they don't want to pass the test how it's made, they want the requirements LOWERED because they are women and naturally weaker than men. That shouldn't be so. True equality would mean that the requirements are the same, period. Sure it's slanted towards men, but when it comes to something like saving lives, you don't want to have lowered requirements for no reason.

Also, part of the reason the new man (it's not just black men) is more feminine is because more is being taken away. Studies have been done that show career driven women are more likely to have failed marriages than women who are closer to the traditional.

I personally believe in shared responsibility, but today's woman (since we're quick to judge) is more apt to give up on things once it starts to become difficult.

And I feel that other dude on women being stock workers in retail. I had a job where i was the stock worker, and they took me out of there to put me on the sales floor and replaced me with a girl that was half my size, for no reason other than to hook someone up with a job. The clothing racks often came off the track and you would have to physically lift them and put them back. These are big racks 10ft high. I ended up spending more time helping her with difficulties she faced than i did on the floor. Poor management because they should have left me where I was and put her on the floor.

A lot of that's true, but most male's roles nowadays strengthen feministic idealogies due to the fact they are not doing anything while the woman does everything. Many a household the woman wears the pants.

Me, myself, I don't see or deal with the feminist ideas because there's no need to. I pay my female employees equally as their male counterparts. At home my wife doesn't even come at me with it.
 
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