Feminism's Fatal Flaw-Equality

[Adam Knows]

How many Black women you know cook and take care of the kids today? I don't know not one woman under 30 who cooks regularly. What are you like 50 or something?
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I know of a lot of women that cook and take care of their kids "today". (And under the age of 30) What type of women are you are associating with that don't do these things is the question. My wife cooks everyday I'm at home

 

[Sade]

Yeah, but real talk, the way this is taught to men, is that you have to do it because women are soft and delicate creatures we have to protect from the real world. Even the equality talk is usually fake, just letting her feel secure even though she could never handle things on her own.

Try to take a step back, look at chivalry and all of that impartially. We treat you like children, and tell you anything you want to hear. You love us for it. Give yourselves as possessions for it. You think it's easy to respect y'all after that? You can spin chivalry however you want, but it's obvious how we as men usually see it.

In a relationship, all of the things we do for each other can be different. I'm talking in general.

truth.com

 

[dzlkdd]

That is too bad that you are taught we poor delicate creatures can not pull out our own chairs and that equality talk is just lip service. My brothers were taught that it is the polite thing to do. You do not have to tell a woman anything she wants to hear. That is childish and you lose out in the short and long run.

I agree with this statement, I think more than you do. You're proving the opposite point though, the more I read the post. I'm telling you what chivalry represents. I'm telling you that what your dad wouldn't tell you but would tell your brothers.

This is women's entire problem in a microcosm. You're trying to separate the parts of feminism that benefit you with the parts of chivalry that benefit you. Both are balanced systems. You treat them great but treat them like property, or you treat them like grown folk and acknowledge their freedom. You are trying to unbalance them to your own convenience, which makes men respect women less, even though we usually play along.

And you're saying things like "You do not have to tell a woman anything she wants to hear" while implying simultaneously that I should say what you want to hear, which is that chivalry and sexism are unrelated. A lot of sexism goes back to this attitude, because when you just nod your head and agree, women love you for it. As a guy, you agree with whatever a woman says, then turn around and roll your eyes. This whole thread is one collective eye-roll at feminism.

Chivalry and sexism, to make it plain, represent one consistent line of thinking. Protect them, they are weak, they cannot be left to do things for themselves. Saying it's "polite" doesn't change that.

 

[primal.primus]

Chivalry perpetuates sexism, plain and simple. Chivalry cannot coexist in a society where men and women are treated as equals.

It's just that most of the women I know want to be treated as equals and still enjoy the spoils of being someones "little lady".

c/s

 

[Mo Pizorn]

This whole thread is one collective eye-roll at feminism.

 

[Nobody]

A lot of that's true, but most male's roles nowadays strengthen feministic idealogies due to the fact they are not doing anything while the woman does everything. Many a household the woman wears the pants.

Me, myself, I don't see or deal with the feminist ideas because there's no need to. I pay my female employees equally as their male counterparts. At home my wife doesn't even come at me with it.

And that's because society is always saying "men are always wrong, women are always right." or "men don't know how to do anything, women know everything"

Look at music videos, movies, tv shows. The man is ALWAYS at fault, and the woman is ALWAYS perfect. Even when the woman is the one at fault or does wrong, the man ends up doing something to shift blame over to him.

We've created a society where men have to do everything to attain a woman, while giving the woman more power and equality all around. You can't have one stay the same or get worse, while the other increases. They have to move conversely.

As far as your situation, you're paying them in a retail situation, which is usually set in stone. But in the corporate world there's huge differences. My sister got less of a raise than someone she TRAINED, and she was still called on more than him when shit needed to be done.

What I think is, BOTH sides need to make concessions. I once went out with a girl who said some shit about everything being equal early in the day, then when it was time to pay for dinner I asked if everything is still equal. She laughed it off and said not now. The hypocrisy of it all was just funny to me.

 

[keysersoze]

Preach!!!






Absolutely retarded statement. Affirmative Action exists because you can absolutely segregate and sabotage a group with racial discrimination. You can enslave an entire race(cant do that with gender). You can ensure that an entire race gets inferior education and health care and treatment by the justice system(you can't do that with gender either). You can't sabotage a gender, you know why? Because every bigot has a mother, daughter, or women in his family that he has to take care of, that's why there isn't ever been on a large scale housing, education, and a legal system for men and women. That's why even when women's rights were at an all-time low, you'd still rather be a White woman, than Black man, trust me. How many women were lynched just for being women, compared with how many were lynched, raped, murdered just for being Black?

Race and gender are two very different monsters my friend. The man in charge aint gonna let society shit on his family. He might do it and beat his wife and rape his daughters, but he can completely separate himself from a race and completely subjugate a race to complete inequality for a prolonged time.



The biggest problem is that women don't want to be seen as "sex objects". Men, in general because of our genetic make up want sex and want it a lot, but women try to make us feel bad for it. What they should want is to be seen as a sex object by the right guy, their husband or boyfriend. He should respect your mind and tear yo ass up at night. He should want to fuck you senseless. Women try to make men feel bad for that, though. Then, they go out and fuck dudes that they know see them only as sex objects, while at the same time making decent guys feel bad about wanting ass.





How many Black women you know cook and take care of the kids today? I don't know not one woman under 30 who cooks regularly. What are you like 50 or something?




Your are not the majority opinion in our soceity. Most women want that 3 months of salary right, I'm sorry. They do. Maybe you don't and God bless you. I hope I find a girl who's as sensible as you are, but most women are not like you today in our society.

Now, I already discredited the "80 cents on the dollar" argument you made in my last post, so you might wanna re-read that.

In terms of alimony. It has been assumed historically that the man is the breadwinner and the woman is the homemaker, that's why the rules are what they are. You'd better believe if they re-adjusted alimony rules for today, it'd be totally different. A few guys like Kevin Federline and Guy Ritchie benefit, but overall the reason it's split like that is that the woman, who usually has the kids and isn't out in the workforce(historically) and wouldn't be able to raise her kids on her own with the same standard of living as her spouse who has all the money. That's why they are what they are. I'll be honest, I love seeing dudes like Nick Lachey make out like bandits, especially when I read somewhere that his wife didn't want a pre-nup because HE was the bigger star at the time they got married, but then it switched and she was the one who had to pay.

brilliant!!

 

[The Amerikkkan Idol]

I know of a lot of women that cook and take care of their kids "today". (And under the age of 30) What type of women are you are associating with that don't do these things is the question. My wife cooks everyday I'm at home

I don't know man. I'm from the hood. Most the girls I grew up with have kids, even my sister did before she got out of high-school(and we had 2 parents). I'm telling you the Black women I've been around eat a lot of McDonalds & Burger King, and so do their kids.

 

[Adam Knows]

I don't know man. I'm from the hood. Most the girls I grew up with have kids, even my sister did before she got out of high-school(and we had 2 parents). I'm telling you the Black women I've been around eat a lot of McDonalds & Burger King, and so do their kids.

you just said so yourself, your in the hood. the women i know and deal with aren't "in the hood".

 

[jucurious]

you just said so yourself, your in the hood. the women i know and deal with aren't "in the hood".

bingo

AND

i know people who are in the hood that cook daily because they can't afford McD's

 

[THE DRIZZY]

Actually, I do...

I just thought that I wouldn't have to state the obvious.

So....

Where do you want me to begin?

I can talk about how Feminazism has made a mockery of the once-sacred institution of marriage. Making it a lose-lose prospect for the men involved.


I can talk about how Feminazism has caused the laws in this society to work in women's favor.


I can talk about how Feminazism-with the help of the Sexual Revolution-gave birth to a generation women who spend most of their time trying to out-whore each other.

I can talk about how Feminazism used and still uses propaganda to make women believe that every person with "two balls and a bat" is a worthless excuse for a human being with a propensity for violence, sexual deviancy, pedophilia, and every other atrocity under the sun.

I can talk about how Feminazism uses the school system to emasculate boys at an early age. While at the same time teaching little girls that they indeed made of "sugar, spice, and everything nice" and can do no wrong.

I can talk about how Feminazism made women (especially Black women) believe that they "don't need a man" to raise kids. Thus, spawning a generation of criminals and whores.

Hell, I can talk about all that and many other reasons as to why men should (and do) have a serious problem with Feminism.

Just tell me where you want to start........

C/S

This is why more men of all races are seeking women who are not indulged into westernized society. Women from South/Central America, Africa, Asia, Russia, Eastern Europe, and Island nations are way more feminine and not feminist and they are more desirable to the western man fed up with the bullshit.

 

[Naha-Nago]

No women in her right mind wants true equality, they just want more. At best they believe in equality in principle not practice.


There are a lot of delusional women spitting bullshit on this board. A male dominant porn board that caters to objectify woman as thoughtless cum buckets in case any of these "freedom fighting females" forgot...


*throws down 2 cents and goes back to lurking*

 

[BigUnc]

This ain't rocket science


The issue is control...always has , always will be. Males have been in a dominate position for so long a large number are having a difficult time adjusting to the changing realities.

Y'all brothers can whine, complain, stomp your feet, try to persuade women with tender words, religious doctrine, physical differences, physco babble or anything else in a effort to regain your/our lost dominance. The fact is the genie is out of the bottle and on a rampage.


The answer is simple:

Adjust, adapt, overcome or die.

 

[Alumni]

Chivalry perpetuates sexism, plain and simple. Chivalry cannot coexist in a society where men and women are treated as equals.

It's just that most of the women I know want to be treated as equals and still enjoy the spoils of being someones "little lady".

No women in her right mind wants true equality, they just want more. At best they believe in equality in principle not practice...

www.truthforyourmotherfuckingass.com

My two pesewas on the 80 cents to the dollar argument. As someone that has been in a salary negotiation position for over 8 years now, the simple fact is that men and women negotiate differently. It is not the responsibility of the negotiator to make sure the person gets all they can get... it is the job of the negotiator to get the best talent for the best price. If women leave money on the table in this day and age, it is their fault. I can assure you that not many people sitting around in HR are saying, "Lets make sure women get paid less."

 

[followup]

This ain't rocket science

The issue is control...always has , always will be. Males have been in a dominate position for so long a large number are having a difficult time adjusting to the changing realities.

Y'all brothers can whine, complain, stomp your feet, try to persuade women with tender words, religious doctrine, physical differences, physco babble or anything else in a effort to regain your/our lost dominance. The fact is the genie is out of the bottom and on a rampage.

The answer is simple:

Adjust, adapt, overcome or die.

Intelligent life form of the male gender on BGOL???

Chivalry will also not change anything...

 

[The Amerikkkan Idol]

you just said so yourself, your in the hood. the women i know and deal with aren't "in the hood".

Where are the Black populations centered at? What is Detroit? What is Washington D.C., Atlanta? Houston?

Where do the majority Black populations live at? In the hood. Don't necessarily mean the ghetto or projects, but there is a "Black" community. That's the hood. I guess you live around mostly Whites and Hispanics?

bingo

AND

i know people who are in the hood that cook daily because they can't afford McD's

I do too, they're called old people. Not young women. I actually cook more than most girls I know

This ain't rocket science


The issue is control...always has , always will be. Males have been in a dominate position for so long a large number are having a difficult time adjusting to the changing realities.

Y'all brothers can whine, complain, stomp your feet, try to persuade women with tender words, religious doctrine, physical differences, physco babble or anything else in a effort to regain your/our lost dominance. The fact is the genie is out of the bottle and on a rampage.


The answer is simple:

Adjust, adapt, overcome or die.

You aint supposed to adapt to wrong brotha. If that was the case, MLK could've just adjusted to Jim Crow laws and yo ass wouldn't be able to walk in half the restaurants in The South. Wrong is wrong. As long as our society perpetrates lies as the truth and we accept it, we'll be fucked up. That's men, women, and kids. I aint and you shouldn't adapt to that. You should try to change that, bruh.

Intelligent life form of the male gender on BGOL???

Chivalry will also not change anything...

Naw, half-cocked, well-intentioned, wannabe intellectualism based on bullshit is everywhere on BGOL.

 

[dzlkdd]

This ain't rocket science


The issue is control...always has , always will be. Males have been in a dominate position for so long a large number are having a difficult time adjusting to the changing realities.

Y'all brothers can whine, complain, stomp your feet, try to persuade women with tender words, religious doctrine, physical differences, physco babble or anything else in a effort to regain your/our lost dominance. The fact is the genie is out of the bottle and on a rampage.


The answer is simple:

Adjust, adapt, overcome or die.

Hasn't been that simple so far. The sexes, unlike the races, feed off each other. So far, still seems like women are having as much difficulty adjusting as men are.

 

[Adam Knows]

you just said so yourself, your in the hood. the women i know and deal with aren't "in the hood".

Where are the Black populations centered at? What is Detroit? What is Washington D.C., Atlanta? Houston?

Where do the majority Black populations live at? In the hood. Don't necessarily mean the ghetto or projects, but there is a "Black" community. That's the hood. I guess you live around mostly Whites and Hispanics?

everyplace black populations reside is not the "hood"...seriously if you really think that, you need to open your eyes and do something with yourself and get out of that environment your in. and even though i do live in majority white neighborhoods doesn't mean there aren't well to do black neighborhoods.

 

[jucurious]

I do too, they're called old people. Not young women. I actually cook more than most girls I know

well maybe you need to change your circle of women cuz I'm 25 and I know plenty that do. They were raised cooking and they cook. When I'm home I cook for my family and my lil 13 yr old sister and 14 yr old cousin cook damn near all the time cuz that is how they were raised.

I really think that some of yall on BGOL need to get ya travel on or move

 

[Adam Knows]

i'm still trippin this nicca said everywhere black people live is the hood...

 

[jucurious]

i'm still trippin this nicca said everywhere black people live is the hood...

yeah that is what i got from what he said also. i wonder how many other people on here believe that. i hope you and i are interpreting what he said incorrectly.

 

[Adam Knows]

no, we're not. a lot of people have that mentality.

 

[ron_mexico]

im sure some 300 pound butch bitch could take on guys in the nfl

BULLSHIT!

 

[The Amerikkkan Idol]

everyplace black populations reside is not the "hood"...seriously if you really think that, you need to open your eyes and do something with yourself and get out of that environment your in. and even though i do live in majority white neighborhoods doesn't mean there aren't well to do black neighborhoods.

i'm still trippin this nicca said everywhere black people live is the hood...

no, we're not. a lot of people have that mentality.

You triflin' niggaz twisted my words. I said MAJORITY populations. Cities with MAJORITY Black populations like the one I live in are considered the HOOD. Not necessarily THE GHETTO or PROJECTS, but because of redlining, redistricting, and urban decay/sprawl, the tax bases of the majority Black cities in Amerikkka are "THE HOOD"

List of U.S. cities with large African American populations

List of Cities with majority African-American populations


This is a list of the several U.S. cities over 100,000 people that have populations over 30% African American. The list is ranked by the perspective percentage of African American population. Note that there are exactly 19 cities with populations over 100,000 that have majority (over 50%) African-American populations. These majority (over 50%) African-American cities are located in the following 14 states: Alabama, Indiana, Louisiana, Maryland, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, Virginia, District of Columbia, California, Georgia.

[edit] Cities whose population is at least 30% African-American

The following data was sourced from the 2005 U.S. Census.

Rank City Percentage Black
1 Detroit, Michigan 83.73
2 Gary, Indiana 81.35
3 Birmingham, Alabama 73.46
4 Jackson, Mississippi 70.64
5 New Orleans, Louisiana 67.25
6 Baltimore, Maryland 64.34
7 Memphis, Tennessee 61.41
8 Atlanta, Georgia 61.39
9 Washington, D.C. 60.01
10 Richmond, Virginia 57.19
11 Savannah, Georgia 57.08
12 Newark, New Jersey 53.46
13 Flint, Michigan 53.27
14 St. Louis, Missouri 51.20
15 Cleveland, Ohio 50.99
16 Shreveport, Louisiana 50.80
17 Portsmouth, Virginia 50.61
18 Baton Rouge, Louisiana 50.02
19 Augusta, Georgia 49.75
20 Montgomery, Alabama 49.63

Now tell me which one of these cities aint "THE HOOD". Not saying that these cities don't have outlining suburbs, but the cities themselves. Which ones aren't the hood?

Please tell me?

And you said yourself you live in the White side of town. Nigga please!

 

[Adam Knows]

You triflin' niggaz twisted my words. I said MAJORITY populations. Cities with MAJORITY Black populations like the one I live in are considered the HOOD. Not necessarily THE GHETTO or PROJECTS, but because of redlining, redistricting, and urban decay/sprawl, the tax bases of the majority Black cities in Amerikkka are "THE HOOD"

List of U.S. cities with large African American populations

List of Cities with majority African-American populations


This is a list of the several U.S. cities over 100,000 people that have populations over 30% African American. The list is ranked by the perspective percentage of African American population. Note that there are exactly 19 cities with populations over 100,000 that have majority (over 50%) African-American populations. These majority (over 50%) African-American cities are located in the following 14 states: Alabama, Indiana, Louisiana, Maryland, Michigan, Mississippi, Missouri, New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, Virginia, District of Columbia, California, Georgia.

[edit] Cities whose population is at least 30% African-American

The following data was sourced from the 2005 U.S. Census.

Rank City Percentage Black
1 Detroit, Michigan 83.73
2 Gary, Indiana 81.35
3 Birmingham, Alabama 73.46
4 Jackson, Mississippi 70.64
5 New Orleans, Louisiana 67.25
6 Baltimore, Maryland 64.34
7 Memphis, Tennessee 61.41
8 Atlanta, Georgia 61.39
9 Washington, D.C. 60.01
10 Richmond, Virginia 57.19
11 Savannah, Georgia 57.08
12 Newark, New Jersey 53.46
13 Flint, Michigan 53.27
14 St. Louis, Missouri 51.20
15 Cleveland, Ohio 50.99
16 Shreveport, Louisiana 50.80
17 Portsmouth, Virginia 50.61
18 Baton Rouge, Louisiana 50.02
19 Augusta, Georgia 49.75
20 Montgomery, Alabama 49.63

Now tell me which one of these cities aint "THE HOOD". Not saying that these cities don't have outlining suburbs, but the cities themselves. Which ones aren't the hood?

Please tell me?

And you said yourself you live in the White side of town. Nigga please!

there are areas of cleveland ohio where it is far from being considered "hood", within the city itself, not the surrounding suburbs. and as far as where i choose to live, the "city" does not have what i'm looking for

 

[jucurious]

1) I'm not a nigga so keep that dumb shit to yourself

2) You DEF said said the majority of black people live in the hood. re-read your post

3) Don't get mad at me because you are using "the hood" and the black community interchangably. The hood is a VERSION of the black community.

4) Not all of the parts where black people live in Newark, NJ and Richmond, VA are hood; it depends on where you go.

maybe you didn't get the memo but Newark is going thru gentrification.

In my hometown of JC, NJ there are some areas where black people live that can be considered hood and then some that aren't.

 

[ClevelandDawg216]

 

[problackbro]

There's plenty of over-emotional men for the same reason that there are heartless women, because our society is totally screwed up. That's why and daddy not being there and the extreme feminazis on the left are the reason for both. Both are the reason that men are 30 years old and don't know how to be men and why 30 year old women don't know how to be ladies.

Simple as that. And why is it your job's place to pay you for child care? You chose to have them. And most parents I know drop their kids off at school or day care while they work, so what how many women do you know that are at work and taking care of their kids at the same time? What kind of office is that? And other than a half-hearted ass blow job once in a blue moon, how do women "take care of their husbands" these days. Now, our mamas and grandmamas did all that shit, but in this generation? Most women are like "Nigga, you can get your own sandwhich/glass of water/TV remote/newspaper."

And then you top it off with the fact that women don't cook, clean or do anything today that's considered womens work these, which is why the kids are so obese from eating at McDonalds and Burger King everyday.

You guys can't have it both ways. You can't look down on your mothers and grandmothers and swear off "women's work" because it's "old-fashion", while at the same wanting to take credit for all the stuff that they did, but that YOU guys don't do anymore.

Let's be serious, most of you guys get in the morning and go to work, just like most of us do and then you come home and do basically the same shit that we do, with the exception of more shopping on your part, while we watch sports or play Playstation and shit. Women in general are not domestics today.

In fact, I cook more than any woman I know.(outside of my mother), but men are still supposed to know how to fix tires, change the oil, take out the garbage, carry all the heavy shit, protect you if somebody breaks in with the bat/guy under the bed and defend your honor if somebody fucks with you in the club.

and most of all, women do not make 80% of what men do. When you factor in the "flex" schedules that mothers work sometimes where they work 4 days out of the week instead of 5 and and the time off for pregnancy and family time, they actually make 98% of what men make. And even more per hour sometimes.

http://www.iwf.org/iwfmedia/show/20132.html


Well said!

 

[The Amerikkkan Idol]

there are areas of cleveland ohio where it is far from being considered "hood", within the city itself, not the surrounding suburbs. and as far as where i choose to live, the "city" does not have what i'm looking for

I don't fault you for that. I'm moving the hell outta here soon as possible.

1) I'm not a nigga so keep that dumb shit to yourself

2) You DEF said said the majority of black people live in the hood. re-read your post

3) Don't get mad at me because you are using "the hood" and the black community interchangably. The hood is a VERSION of the black community.

4) Not all of the parts where black people live in Newark, NJ and Richmond, VA are hood; it depends on where you go.

maybe you didn't get the memo but Newark is going thru gentrification.

In my hometown of JC, NJ there are some areas where black people live that can be considered hood and then some that aren't.

Now, where did I say all or most Black people live in the hood I said, and I had to quote myself here.

Where are the Black populations centered at? What is Detroit? What is Washington D.C., Atlanta? Houston?


Where are the Black populations centered at? Where are the Black hubs? In cities that are considered "the hood". I never said all Black people live in the hood. You need to step you comprehension game up. I even posted the list of cities and most of those cities are famous for being hood cites.

Second of all, when Newark is gentrified, Black people won't be living there, you'd better believe that. Gentrification is when White folks finish decimating Black cities then devalue the property, then decide they want said property back for themselves, but not the large Black populations that go with it.

I never said this, and this is why I say you have to read that I said that there are non-hood areas in those communities. I said that the Black population "centers". Centers being the key term here are considered the hood. You can be Black and move out to the outskirts of Detroit or Gary, Indiana and into mixed and mostly White neighborhoods, but if you want to live in most of the Black population centers, you will be living close to or in the hood, in most cases. Now, there are exceptions in Atlanta, Prince Georges County(I believe), Maryland, and a few other places, but most places that have been designated as the Black community are going to be the places that suffer from redistricting, redlining, and overall bullshit that plague urban and minority cities.

Also, you are mixed up with what "the hood" is, not me. The hood is not necessarily "The Projects" or "Ghetto". I posted that in my post, that you obviously didn't read. "The hood" is anywhere "hood culture" exists. I didn't grow up in the projects or ghetto, but because the city I grew up in was mostly Black and mostly poor, I had to go to underfunded schools, ride unfortunate public transportation, go to stores mostly run by Arabs and Asians who don't like Black people, had to worry about what the way I dressed if I wanted to go outside my house and not get shot by gangbangers or the cops, and had to worry about how the police treated me overall.

Whether I lived in "the ghetto" or not, the world I grew up in was "the hood", based on what I had to experience. So, if YOU are Black and live in these Black population centers, like I said, chances are, you don't live in a bubble, so you're in the hood, because you have to go to the same schools, stores, and go through the same shit as everybody else. Now, if you live in the suburbs, like my homie in the last post does, where you don't have to deal with that on a daily basis, then you're no longer in that environment.

I hope that you can finally grasp what I'm talking about.


Lastly, I dont really care if you object to the "N-word" or not. Huey Newton and Bobby Seale used it regularly and cared more about Black folks than you ever will. You can choose to dwell on that word if you wanna. I don't give a fuck.