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Any magic user in the Marvel Universe with a brain would take Superman out. Game over.

True, but magic user's rarely do the logical thing and banish characters like strange did to Hulk, simply because it doesn't make a good story. Thor could end half the fights he gets into before they even begin, but he usually goes head up.

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Also, I don't think superman is so much "vulnerable" to magic like he is to kryptonite, it just affects him as it would anyone else; it doesn't sap his strength unless that's the purpose of the spell i'm thinking. You aren't going to be able to hurt him any easier necessarily--for example, Captain Marvel's blows may hurt him more, Marvel's lightning hurts him, and magic blades can harm him because, supposedly, these things bypass superman's "force field"; however, his alien physiology still affords him a great amount of invulnerability--but you can send his ass to another dimension or create some sort of restraint (crimson bands) to hold him. But I think Hulk busted out of those, so you can assume Superman would be able to as well.
 
It depends on the writers, In AVENGERS VS JLA (a slightly crazed) Superman was fucking Thor up. Hercules and She-Hulk had to save him.

But if they really wanted to stop him The Scarlet Witch could have shut him down in the first issue.

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I doubt Sentry could take Superman because if Sentry's power is the same a 1000 suns Superman would just get stronger the whole time they were fighting.

I've always thought that was hyperbole; like saying Captain America has the strength of ten men to make you say "damn! that's a lot of power." I don't think the Sentry is powered by the sun.
 
Majestros (Mr Majestic) could wipe the floor with Superman.
But only because he is smarter and is willing to use powers of an equal level to Superman, in ways that someone with Superman's moral code never would i.e. deliberate crippling and fatal attacks.
Think about it. I mean, if Batman killed criminals, wouldn't he be a thousand times more dangerous then the Punisher?
I think a lot of it comes down to intent. Because Superman is always trying not to fight at full strength (so as not kill anyone by accident) and bcus he would never do so deliberately anyway, I think this would hamper him in some of the match ups guys have been bringing up.
Despite being Heroic figures, both Hercules and Thor are Warriors first, and have slain many enemies in their lifetimes even other gods/demi gods and cosmic entities/demons. Beings of their capability and experience fighting to kill, should not be taken lightly. Also in regard to the Hulk... his power is theoretically unlimited or at least, limited only by his rage, the longer he fights the more angry he gets and therefore more powerful etc etc
Superman on the otherhand, when fighting a significantly strong opponent i.e. Doomsday can end up draining his solar reserves as the battle drags on and when they are depleted he can 'die'. So really, in a battle of attrition against the Hulk (who, by the way, can regenerate any injuries that actually manage to pierce his skin or dismember him) Supes would probably lose. (unless he found a way outsmart one Hulk's dumber personalities. But against the Green Skar???? NO CHANCE)

my 2p.
 
"I doubt Sentry could take Superman because if Sentry's power is the same a 1000 suns Superman would just get stronger the whole time they were fighting."

That's 1000 exploding suns. I don't think his powers are actually solar in nature. It's just a metaphor for trying to convey an awesome level of power. One sun going supernova is a ridiculous amount of power. A supernova is to nuclear explosion as nuclear explosion is to struck match. 1000 Supernova's????
Sheesh.

If the Sentry wasn't crazy...

(I do wonder just how powerful this Blue Marvel character is going to be... but I don't wanna get to attached to him cus I knwo marvel won;t keep around unless they depower him or something. No way, they'd let one of the most powerful beings on earth be a brother. Which makes the storyline even more ironic.)
 
(I do wonder just how powerful this Blue Marvel character is going to be... but I don't wanna get to attached to him cus I knwo marvel won;t keep around unless they depower him or something. No way, they'd let one of the most powerful beings on earth be a brother. Which makes the storyline even more ironic.)

Amen to that.

Majestros (Mr Majestic) could wipe the floor with Superman.
But only because he is smarter and is willing to use powers of an equal level to Superman, in ways that someone with Superman's moral code never would i.e. deliberate crippling and fatal attacks.

yup, definitely.

Hulk can beat Superman, Capt Marvel(Monica Rambeux), and Senty terrestrial beings from earth that can beat Superman. That's about all i can think of right now.

Hulk could win in just a war of attrition like it was said, Sentry is just that much more powerful. Using energy abilities. Monica's the same way.
 

From that link you posted, how in the hell would the Hulk (Green Scar or otherwise...) beat Thanos? Not asking you in particular, but in general. I clicked on the tournament details for that particular fight and nothing came up. The only way I see Thanos being beaten by the Hulk is if he let him kill him so that he could be reunited with Death only after fulfilling whatever scheme he had set in motion to please her in the first place. The Green Scar might be a strategist, but Thanos strategies are on another level entirely.
 
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What I want to know is wht's happened to the Green Scar persona?

Are we now permanently back to the "Hulk Smash!" persona or what?:angry:
 
From that link you posted, how in the hell would the Hulk (Green Scar or otherwise...) beat Thanos? Not asking you in particular, but in general. I clicked on the tournament details for that particular fight and nothing came up. The only way I see Thanos being beaten by the Hulk is if he let him kill him so that he could be reunited with Death only after fulfilling whatever scheme he had set in motion to please her in the first place. The Green Scar might be a strategist, but Thanos strategies are on another level entirely.

Can't Thanos manipulate energy like Silver Surfer? If so, he can just drain the the hulk of radiation until he collapses. Though you'd get some people that would argue that, since the hulk has unlimited strength, he has unlimited energy reserves.
 
What I want to know is wht's happened to the Green Scar persona?

Are we now permanently back to the "Hulk Smash!" persona or what?:angry:

c/s

All I know is that the Hulk story is disappointing right now. I hope that Marvel does something to redeem this book.
 
c/s

All I know is that the Hulk story is disappointing right now. I hope that Marvel does something to redeem this book.

^^^The Hulk "storyline" if we can even call it a storyline, is just straight garbage at the moment and just Marvel doing what they do best when given half an opportunity.

They squander good chances to take their characters into new uncharted territory thus giving them a chance to grow and flourish.

Planet Hulk was IMHO one of the best and most well developed and defined of the Hulk/Banner duality ever put down on paper.

For the first time in the Hulk's history, he was given a chance to be loved by people and live on a planet where he was more or less, universally loved by all and sundry.

I mean for fucks sake, dude actually got married to a super powered hottie who complemented him nicely and they could have arguably gone from strength to strength pushing this story for much longer than they did.

But what does Marvel do?

They ruin the Hulks legacy and character development to bring us back to.....Hulk Smash!

Fuck Marvel! (And DC for killing Bruce Wayne):angry:
 
ok for those going back and forth with Superman
he's been retconed and reboot too many times that pre crisis and post crisis could be 2 different characters
but to add more fuel to it :D

DC have retconed Byrne and Waids reboots/reinventions of Superman origin
so until after FC, Superman powers, origin and power level are pretty much a toss up or guess :dunno:
 
Shit I been over seas for the last 6 months... When did Bruce Wayne die????


^^^The Hulk "storyline" if we can even call it a storyline, is just straight garbage at the moment and just Marvel doing what they do best when given half an opportunity.

They squander good chances to take their characters into new uncharted territory thus giving them a chance to grow and flourish.

Planet Hulk was IMHO one of the best and most well developed and defined of the Hulk/Banner duality ever put down on paper.

For the first time in the Hulk's history, he was given a chance to be loved by people and live on a planet where he was more or less, universally loved by all and sundry.

I mean for fucks sake, dude actually got married to a super powered hottie who complemented him nicely and they could have arguably gone from strength to strength pushing this story for much longer than they did.

But what does Marvel do?

They ruin the Hulks legacy and character development to bring us back to.....Hulk Smash!

Fuck Marvel! (And DC for killing Bruce Wayne):angry:
 
It depends on the writers, In AVENGERS VS JLA (a slightly crazed) Superman was fucking Thor up. Hercules and She-Hulk had to save him.

But if they really wanted to stop him The Scarlet Witch could have shut him down in the first issue.

superman_advengers.jpg



I doubt Sentry could take Superman because if Sentry's power is the same a 1000 suns Superman would just get stronger the whole time they were fighting.

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I don't know but I'd throw him in there on a good low ego-trip day.
 
Please stop saying that bullshit

If he can beat Superman and Darkseid with no superpowers of his own then you have to give him some credit for that.

A couple of months ago I would have thought Doom could probably kill Superman, some of his powers are mystical. But after they basically let the Avengers (Sentry) punk him out I kind of lost respect for the man.
 
If he can beat Superman and Darkseid with no superpowers of his own then you have to give him some credit for that.

A couple of months ago I would have thought Doom could probably kill Superman, some of his powers are mystical. But after they basically let the Avengers (Sentry) punk him out I kind of lost respect for the man.

Batman never beat Darkseid.

He just outsmarted him.

Darkseid was about to kill that nigga.

And Superman is a pussy...
 
From that link you posted, how in the hell would the Hulk (Green Scar or otherwise...) beat Thanos? Not asking you in particular, but in general. I clicked on the tournament details for that particular fight and nothing came up. The only way I see Thanos being beaten by the Hulk is if he let him kill him so that he could be reunited with Death only after fulfilling whatever scheme he had set in motion to please her in the first place. The Green Scar might be a strategist, but Thanos strategies are on another level entirely.
These battles were decided by BGOL voters, some who aren't familiar with the comic universe. The vote was close on Hulk/Thanos
 
Epic Magazine Issues 1-7

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Epic Illustrated was a comics-magazine anthology published in the United States by Marvel Comics. The series lasted for 34 issues, from Spring 1980 to February 1986.

Similar to the US-licensed graphic-story magazine Heavy Metal, it featured mature content oriented at an older audience than traditional American comic books, as well as offering its writers and artists ownership rights and royalties in place of the industry-standard work for hire contracts.

The magazine was initiated under editor Rick Marschall in 1979 under the title Odyssey, and originally set to launch as an issue of Marvel Super Special, Marvel's early graphic novel line. After Marschall learned of at least seven other magazines titled Odyssey, the project was renamed Epic Illustrated and launched as a standalone series. Marschall was replaced by editor Archie Goodwin in the autumn of 1979, several months before the first issue was published.

In addition to the work of such established mainstream-comics talents as John Buscema, Barry Windsor-Smith, Pepe Moreno and Jim Starlin, and such independent-press creators as Wendy Pini, Goodwin commissioned stories by many new cartoonists, including Steve Bissette, Jon J. Muth, Rick Veitch and Kent Williams. The anthology featured heroic fiction and genre stories, primarily fantasy and science fiction, but in a broad range of styles.

Epic Illustrated also included an occasional Marvel Comics protagonist, such as the first issue's Silver Surfer story by Stan Lee and John Buscema. Because the magazine was not subject to traditional comic books' Comics Code Authority, however, writers and artists were free to create material stories that might be risqué or non-canon.

Each issue usually featured a main story, a number of regular serials, and anthological shorts.
 
Batman never beat Darkseid.

He just outsmarted him.

Darkseid was about to kill that nigga.

And Superman is a pussy...


That's beating him. :lol:
Batman outsmarts 80% of his ememies.

I will agree with the Superman part. But We know that Superman could destroy the whole DC Universe if he wanted to. So does Batman that's why he has a defense ready just in case that day comes.

Nobody here said he could physically beat them, he's only human. :rolleyes:
 
Epic Magazine Issues 1-7

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http://rapidshare.com/files/172991122/Epic_1-7__1980_.rar


Epic Illustrated was a comics-magazine anthology published in the United States by Marvel Comics. The series lasted for 34 issues, from Spring 1980 to February 1986.

Similar to the US-licensed graphic-story magazine Heavy Metal, it featured mature content oriented at an older audience than traditional American comic books, as well as offering its writers and artists ownership rights and royalties in place of the industry-standard work for hire contracts.

The magazine was initiated under editor Rick Marschall in 1979 under the title Odyssey, and originally set to launch as an issue of Marvel Super Special, Marvel's early graphic novel line. After Marschall learned of at least seven other magazines titled Odyssey, the project was renamed Epic Illustrated and launched as a standalone series. Marschall was replaced by editor Archie Goodwin in the autumn of 1979, several months before the first issue was published.

In addition to the work of such established mainstream-comics talents as John Buscema, Barry Windsor-Smith, Pepe Moreno and Jim Starlin, and such independent-press creators as Wendy Pini, Goodwin commissioned stories by many new cartoonists, including Steve Bissette, Jon J. Muth, Rick Veitch and Kent Williams. The anthology featured heroic fiction and genre stories, primarily fantasy and science fiction, but in a broad range of styles.

Epic Illustrated also included an occasional Marvel Comics protagonist, such as the first issue's Silver Surfer story by Stan Lee and John Buscema. Because the magazine was not subject to traditional comic books' Comics Code Authority, however, writers and artists were free to create material stories that might be risqué or non-canon.

Each issue usually featured a main story, a number of regular serials, and anthological shorts.

wouldnt happen to have the issues w/ "Generation Zero" and the Cholly and Flytrap stories?
 
If he can beat Superman and Darkseid with no superpowers of his own then you have to give him some credit for that.

A couple of months ago I would have thought Doom could probably kill Superman, some of his powers are mystical. But after they basically let the Avengers (Sentry) punk him out I kind of lost respect for the man.

^^^When did this happen?:angry:
 
The links for issues 8 thru 34 are included :cool:

^^^Where!?:eek::eek::eek::eek:

NubianNectar, you are the freaking man.

I'm so glad you've brought Epic Illustrated to this forum.

This was one of Marvels grand experiments that would never have seen the light of day under the current idiotic regime running the former "House Of Ideas" into the ground.

Metamorphosis Odyssey, Almuric and the Elric adaptations where just some of the stories I grooved to when I was a youngin reading these joints when they first came out.

Mindblowing material.

Thanks so much for bringing back the good memories.:yes::yes::dance:
 
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