Are we killing ourselves: Food & products to look out for.......

Advil, Tylenol, Motrin, and any other pain killer. These products slowly destroy your liver. I donated a kidney last Dec. During this I found out my liver was damaged because of pain killers.
 
Sweet Deceit: Splenda Health Concerns Surface
Conan Milner, Epoch Times Chicago Staff

How Sweet It Isn't
Health advocacy group calls on FDA to revoke its approval of Splenda

"We are most concerned that the public be informed through us, through the FDA and through every other possible way we can, that Splenda poses a health risk," proclaims Jim Turner, Chairman of the Board of the health advocacy group Citizens for Health. "And we are very concerned that the advertising being done for Splenda disguises that fact." Recently, his organization submitted a Citizen Petition to the U.S. Food & Drug Administration (FDA) calling on the agency to revoke its approval of the popular artificial sweetener.

For many who enjoy the product in everything from diet soft drinks to home-baked cookies, Splenda seems like a dream come true. Unlike sugar, Splenda is calorie free - a plus for many weight-conscious consumers seeking a healthy alternative to favorite sweet treats.

With a taste said to rival synthetic sweeteners of the past, sucralose (trade name Splenda) has been a favorite among consumers in the handful of years it has been sold in the U.S. From 2000 to 2004, Splenda sales rose from 3 to 20 percent of the artificial sweetener market, and now more than triple the sales of either Equal (made from aspartame) or Sweet 'N Low (saccharin).

However, many Splenda users have reported several adverse reactions from using the product. Turner describes reports of varying degrees of gastro-intestinal problems resulting from Splenda use. "... from irritation all the way up to serious bleeding ulcers requiring surgery," says Turner. Other health professionals report cases of cardiac problems, various allergic reactions, and more.

"The sheer number of complaints on the Internet warrants an investigation," said Turner in a press release for Citizens for Health. "Most of the testing on the safety of sucralose was conducted by the manufacturer, McNeil Nutritionals. If the manufacturer is as sure about the safety of the product as is claimed, it too will join us in the call for an independent investigation into what, if any, side effects can accompany the use of the product."

Yet, on its Web site, the makers of Splenda boast: "the safety of sucralose is well documented in more than 100 scientific studies conducted over a 20-year period." So why weren't these initial studies able to find problems with Splenda?

"One of the points we're making is that they did," explains Turner. "One of the things we're doing with the FDA petition is that we are refocusing the agency's attention on the studies that were submitted. We want them to be re-evaluated by the [FDA], but we also want to get a much broader public view of them, so that the public understands that the kinds of problems that they're experiencing in their anecdotal reactions are problems that were identified in the studies that were done."

But history has shown that such a process could meet with resistance. Before Splenda, aspartame dominated the artificial sweetener market. Complaints surrounding this artificial sweetener (Equal and NutraSweet are trade names of aspartame) have also plagued it - many health professionals argue that aspartame is a deadly neurotoxin that is responsible for many health concerns, some of which have been quite serious. In light of this evidence, for years many have lobbied the FDA to reconsider its approval of aspartame.

Turner points out that many more studies were done on aspartame than on Splenda. He observes that among these studies there is almost a 50/50 split between those paid for by the company, which say that no problems exist, and those that are independent, which find problems. And, like Splenda, aspartame manufacturers and their scientists continue to tell consumers that the product is safe. "Just like aspartame, which achieved marketplace approval by the FDA when animal studies clearly demonstrated its toxicity, sucralose also failed in clinical trials with animals. Aspartame created brain tumors in rats. Sucralose has been found to shrink thymus glands (the biological seat of immunity) and produce liver inflammation in rats and mice," writes physician and biochemist James Bowen, M.D., in his 2005 article "The Lethal Science of Splenda, a Poisonous Chlorocarbon."

One of the more controversial topics surrounding the artificial sweetener is Splenda's advertising slogan that many say misleads consumers. "Made from sugar so it tastes like sugar" say ads for Splenda in print and television. While the company actually claims that Splenda is not natural, many argue that its famous slogan makes consumers think otherwise.

"Any carbohydrate that is combined with chlorine [can create sucralose] - it could be beets, it could be carrots, it could be almost anything - they use sugar only to be able to make the slogan," explains Turner. "It should actually say, ‘made from chlorine,' and whatever they want to say after that."

In fact, Splenda chemically resembles the controversial pesticide DDT (found to cause organ, genetic, and reproductive damage) more than it does sugar."
In the coming months we can expect to see a river of media hype expounding the virtues of Splenda/sucralose... In terms of potential long-term human toxicity we should regard sucralose with its chemical cousin DDT, the insecticide now outlawed because of its horrendous long-term toxicities at even minute trace levels in human, avian, and mammalian tissues," writes Bowen.

In addition to the petition filed initially, the Citizens for Health organization is continuing to collect data to add to their case against Splenda. Turner says that if the FDA fails to act (or act within a way that they find inappropriate), they plan on bringing the case to court.

Turner expresses that his main concern is public well-being. "Anybody who is using Splenda now needs to go off of Splenda for a minimum of six weeks and just observe how their health is before and after they go off Splenda. My prediction is that a large number of people will not go back."
 
Advil, Tylenol, Motrin, and any other pain killer. These products slowly destroy your liver. I donated a kidney last Dec. During this I found out my liver was damaged because of pain killers.

Milk thistle, they use it in Europe. Studies have shown even when taking shit toxic to the liver milk thistle protects the liver.

Make sure it is standardized.
 
Life expectancy has risen dramatically, and people continue with this nonsense about things killing us. You should be pretty happy that you live in this time and place. If this was the 1800's you would be taking mercury for many ailments.
And 200years from now your idiot equal will be spouting off more imbecilic rhetoric by saying "Stop whining about being healthy losers. People are living longer. Back in the early 2000's those fools actually used aluminum under their arms and held cancer boxes called cell phones to their ears all day".

Ignorance truly is bliss.
 
Yes you can do other 'fasts' like a juice fast or veggie fast. These can work wonders for people who have never fasted cause these people are toxic as shit anyway.

On a total cleansing aspect nothing works like the water only fast. The body is on a break from digesting and can devote its resources to healing.

Those who have fasted water only for over 5 days will tell you how alive your senses get and you are no longer hungry. Your mind is super clear.

People that have fasted for 14 days with no food just water have had bowel movements. That should scare the shit out of anybody that you got stuff just rotting inside of you causing disease.

Peace my brother Cisco,

I hear you and years ago water alone probably would constitute a sufficient cleansing ritual but today with the host of toxins and unpronounceable chemicals in our food and environment - toxins deposited deep in the bowels, absorbed into our cells and stored in body fat, heavy metals etc water alone is just not going to cut it. You need to eat certain raw foods like organic onion, garlic, beets, sesame, chicory, and other bitters as well as cruciferous vegetables and on top of this you need to consume herbs and amino acids like milk thistle, N-acetyl cysteine, glutathione. Coffee enemas help keep those toxins removed from being reabsorbed in the bowels. There really is a lot more to this then even this and I will post a ritual for any interested but while water alone may be good from the point of view that the person may have stopped visiting KFC or eating toxin filled meats for a fews days the water alone will not eliminate the shit that these savages put in our food, air, water and cosmetic products
each day.

Respect.
 
Yes you can do other 'fasts' like a juice fast or veggie fast. These can work wonders for people who have never fasted cause these people are toxic as shit anyway.

On a total cleansing aspect nothing works like the water only fast. The body is on a break from digesting and can devote its resources to healing.

Those who have fasted water only for over 5 days will tell you how alive your senses get and you are no longer hungry. Your mind is super clear.

People that have fasted for 14 days with no food just water have had bowel movements. That should scare the shit out of anybody that you got stuff just rotting inside of you causing disease.
Your heart is in the right place but your head isnt. I dont think you will find any nutritionist or holistic healer who will co-sign on a 14 day strict water fast as an effective or healthy means of fasting. In fact, im sure you wont find any credible person to advise doing so. Im also calling bullshit on having a legitimate elimination (movement) afteer 14days of nothing but water.
 
Your heart is in the right place but your head isnt. I dont think you will find any nutritionist or holistic healer who will co-sign on a 14 day strict water fast as an effective or healthy means of fasting. In fact, im sure you wont find any credible person to advise doing so. Im also calling bullshit on having a legitimate elimination (movement) afteer 14days of nothing but water.


Drop some alternatives Bro, we are here to learn.....

Don't just comment if you are holding more info

:cool:
 
Drop some alternatives Bro, we are here to learn.....

Don't just comment if you are holding more info

:cool:
Peace kayanation,

Fasting is such a diverse and broad topic. I would need specifics to accurately address any concerns or participate in intelligent discourse on the subject. However, as has been stated, when doing so one must be sure to provide the body with what it needs to properly clean, lube, detox, repair and flush itself. Water alone simply cannot do this. There are tons of fasts to accomplish various goals within the body, one must first articulate his purpose and goal for a fast and we can go from there (cleanse, mental health, weight loss, fatloss, organ detox, colon detox, energy boost, etc...).
 
Peace kayanation,

Fasting is such a diverse and broad topic. I would need specifics to accurately address any concerns or participate in intelligent discourse on the subject. However, as has been stated, when doing so one must be sure to provide the body with what it needs to properly clean, lube, detox, repair and flush itself. Water alone simply cannot do this. There are tons of fasts to accomplish various goals within the body, one must first articulate his purpose and goal for a fast and we can go from there (cleanse, mental health, weight loss, fatloss, organ detox, colon detox, energy boost, etc...).


Sounds like you need to create a separate thread and drop that knowledge Bro.....


We come into the world to make a mark and influence the ones around us, not leave with all that acquired knowledge in our heads......

I for one will be copying and pasting the info from that thread for future reference.

:yes::yes::yes:
 
Sounds like you need to create a separate thread and drop that knowledge Bro.....


We come into the world to make a mark and influence the ones around us, not leave with all that acquired knowledge in our heads......

I for one will be copying and pasting the info from that thread for future reference.

:yes::yes::yes:
Ok, i may do just that. I will get some stuff together and post it for those interested. I'll try to have it up by tomorrow night. I'll shoot you a PM to remind you.
 
Ok, i may do just that. I will get some stuff together and post it for those interested. I'll try to have it up by tomorrow night. I'll shoot you a PM to remind you.


Thanks Bro.....

Too many of us are dying from simple stuff that we don't do....


:(

Time for us to get it together!

:yes:
 
I am very interested in this topic. I try to take care of myself, but there is so much contradictory info out there. I will be watching this thread for the real info that I can review and analyze. I'm looking for ways to increase my health. IE Fasting, preparing foods and exercise. Thanks so much for dropping the knowledge, please continue.
 
Good shit here

I use this

Lafe's Natural and Organic Deodorant Spray -- 8 fl oz


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With aloe vera.
Our unique blend of mineral salts and aloe vera provides 24-hour natural deodorant protection:
-- Mineral salts eliminate odor-causing bacteria.
-- Nature's healing aloe vera soothes and softens the skin.
-- No aluminum chlorhydrate; no alcohol.
-- Non-staining and non-irritating formula.
-- Leaves no white residue.
-- Fragrance-free and hypoallergenic.
-- Ozone friendly - no harmful propellants.
-- No animal testing.

Ingredients: Purified water, naturally occurring mineral salts, aloe vera and potassium alum.
Free Of
Parabens, PG, fragrance, alcohol and aluminum chlorhydrate.
Directions
Spray 5-6 times under each arm or on foot.
Disclaimer
These statements have not been evaluated by the FDA. These products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.

MADINA Industries over in Brooklyn also got some nice all natural deoderants.

Thanks for the info on the Brooklyn spot. I'll definitely check it out..
 

Aluminium zirconium tetrachlorohydrex
gly is a chemical compound used as an antiperspirant in many deodorant products. The compound is selected for its ability to close pores in the skin and prevent sweat production. Its anhydrous form gives it the added ability of absorbing moisture


Functions


Anhydrous aluminium zirconium tetrachlorohydrex gly has two major functions as an antiperspirant.

First, the aluminium forms a gel that clogs large numbers of pores in the skin, a clog that prevents the pores from releasing sweat. This clogging ability is common among aluminium-based antiperspirants (e.g., aluminium chlorohydrate).

Second, it absorbs some of the sweat produced by pores that didn't get clogged in the first place. The chemical compound itself is hygroscopic.

Because these two functions reduce underarm wetness, aluminium zirconium tetrachlorohydrex gly can be said to reduce body odour because it inhibits the bacterial breakdown of sweat.


Health risks

Though aluminium has been identified as a neurotoxin[1], several studies suggest that aluminium zirconium tetrachlorohydrex gly is not absorbed through the skin as readily as other aluminium compounds such as aluminium chloride. This finding would suggest a significantly lower chance of toxic effects associated with aluminium, though still unproven.

:cool:

Now if aluminum can absorb through you skin through deodorant, what do you think is happening while eating canned foods? Don't you think that aluminum is absorbing the food in the can and the drink in the can?
 
Here is some good juice to drink. They don't add sugar, just use the natural grape sugar. It helps keep your arteries open and is good for the heart.

I don't eat red meat but I do eat chicken and fish. I am not going to front, I do eat some fried foods sometimes, once in a while. I like my fried haddock and fried eggplant.

But I got a question about flouride in toothpaste. I brushing with Flouride and now I use Tom toothpaste. But what about the anti cavity that flouride has, can Toms compensate for that? There toothpaste is non-flouride which has no anti cavity.


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Life expectancy has risen dramatically, and people continue with this nonsense about things killing us. You should be pretty happy that you live in this time and place. If this was the 1800's you would be taking mercury for many ailments.

I tend to agree. True shit about high fructose in our foods a but to say our life spans are decreasing is simply not true. So far, no one is posting links saying that but giving up a lot of anecdotal info but not a lot substantiated by the facts.

The bigger issue is quality of life and that relates to a whole host of factors, not just food. As far as food goes, people eat too damn much of it and restaurants give portions way too big.

And who in their right mind will put that level of acid under their arm pits in the first place, then claim not to smell like a room full of Nigerians fresh off the continent? Some people can take this natural idea too far. There is good info in this thread but some of it is borderline nuts.

-VG
 
But I got a question about flouride in toothpaste. I brushing with Flouride and now I use Tom toothpaste. But what about the anti cavity that flouride has, can Toms compensate for that? There toothpaste is non-flouride which has no anti cavity.
Tooth decay primarily comes from sugary foods. The plaque on your teeth turns sugar into acid, the acid breaks down the enamal of the tooth thus causing decay (cavities). Decreasing sugary foods, flossing, and brushing twice a day will all but eliminate cavities (surface civities not to be confused with root cavities that have nothing to do with brushing). I think Toms is fine. I would also suggest using arm&hammer baking soda as a supplement (use it first then use the Toms for extra cleaning and fresh taste).
 
yes, we are killing ourselves with what we eat. even the fruits and vegetables we eat on some level are not good for us...

strawberries hold more insecticide than any other fruit or vegetable too...I bet yall tear them up when you eat em.

there is no avoiding it unless you grow your own food.
 
I tend to agree. True shit about high fructose in our foods a but to say our life spans are decreasing is simply not true. So far, no one is posting links saying that but giving up a lot of anecdotal info but not a lot substantiated by the facts.

The bigger issue is quality of life and that relates to a whole host of factors, not just food. As far as food goes, people eat too damn much of it and restaurants give portions way too big.

And who in their right mind will put that level of acid under their arm pits in the first place, then claim not to smell like a room full of Nigerians fresh off the continent? Some people can take this natural idea too far. There is good info in this thread but some of it is borderline nuts.

-VG

Yup ToothePaste has not only FLOURIDE but most BRANDS also contain SLS (Sodium Lauryl Sulfate) which is basically a Floor Stripper. Look for Brands Free of both.

Google SLS if possible. but ill upload a vid on flouride hazards.

edit: in the meantime heres the google vid: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7319752042352089988

I use this shit here. costs about $4 on sale, otherwise about $5.

TP_sensitive.jpg


Overkill2k6 I get this Plus that Deoderant at the Queens Health Emporium

Natural Sensitive Care SLS-Free Antiplaque Toothpaste for Sensitive Teeth
Size: 4 oz
Flavors: Black Currant, Wintermint

Using potassium nitrate, a naturally occurring, clinically proven active ingredient, we have formulated this toothpaste to help soothe the pain of sensitive teeth.

We also use the natural ingredient glycyrrhizin (from purified licorice root) to create a patent-pending natural foaming experience for ingredient dispersal without SLS. Glycyrrhizin needs no additional processing and is gentle on gums.

* SLS-free
The foaming properties of glycyrrhizin replace the need for SLS (which may, for some people, occasionally be irritating) or an SLS alternative.
* Reduces sensitivity
We use clinically proven potassium nitrate, a naturally ocurring mineral, to reduce tooth sensitivity.
* Soothing brushing experience
We’ve added xylitol (from birch trees or corn), gentle glycerin, and organic aloe for their soothing properties.
* Mild natural flavor
Delicious natural flavor oils leave your mouth feeling clean and fresh.

http://www.tomsofmaine.com/toms/product.asp?dept_id=400&pf_id=TP-Sens
 
Aspartame

Excellent documentary showing how dangerous artificial sweetner Aspartame is. From its history, to its effects this video is enough to shock anyone into really looking at there food labels next time they shop. Aspartame is a toxic food that came into the world as an investment By Donald Rumsfeld, while ignoring the deadly effects the tests showed. Take a good look at this video, it could save lives

Sweet Misery - A Poisoned World.avi - 90 minute video


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-566922170441334340

Can someone help me post this vid if it doesn't work?

[FLASH]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-566922170441334340[/FLASH]
 
Aspartame Side Effects

There are over 92 different health side effects associated with aspartame consumption. It seems surreal, but true. How can one chemical create such chaos?

Aspartame dissolves into solution and can therefore travel throughout the body and deposit within any tissue. The body digests aspartame unlike saccharin, which does not break down within humans.

The multitude of aspartame side effects are indicative to your genetic individuality and physical weaknesses. It is important to put two and two together, nonetheless, and identify which side effects aspartame is creating within you.

Aspartame Side Effects

The components of aspartame can lead to a number of health problems, as you have read. Side effects can occur gradually, can be immediate, or can be acute reactions. According to Lendon Smith, M.D. there is an enormous population suffering from side effects associated with aspartame, yet have no idea why drugs, supplements and herbs don’t relieve their symptoms. Then, there are users who don’t ‘appear’ to suffer immediate reactions at all. Even these individuals are susceptible to the long-term damage caused by excitatory amino acids, phenylalanine, methanol, and DKP.

Adverse reactions and side effects of aspartame include:

Eye
blindness in one or both eyes
decreased vision and/or other eye problems such as: blurring, bright flashes, squiggly lines, tunnel vision, decreased night vision
pain in one or both eyes
decreased tears
trouble with contact lenses
bulging eyes

Ear
tinnitus - ringing or buzzing sound
severe intolerance of noise
marked hearing impairment

Neurologic
epileptic seizures
headaches, migraines and (some severe)
dizziness, unsteadiness, both
confusion, memory loss, both
severe drowsiness and sleepiness
paresthesia or numbness of the limbs
severe slurring of speech
severe hyperactivity and restless legs
atypical facial pain
severe tremors

Psychological/Psychiatric
severe depression
irritability
aggression
anxiety
personality changes
insomnia
phobias

Chest
palpitations, tachycardia
shortness of breath
recent high blood pressure

Gastrointestinal
nausea
diarrhea, sometimes with blood in stools
abdominal pain
pain when swallowing

Skin and Allergies
itching without a rash
lip and mouth reactions
hives
aggravated respiratory allergies such as asthma

Endocrine and Metabolic
loss of control of diabetes
menstrual changes
marked thinning or loss of hair
marked weight loss
gradual weight gain
aggravated low blood sugar (hypoglycemia)
severe PMS

Other
frequency of voiding and burning during urination
excessive thirst, fluid retention, leg swelling, and bloating
increased susceptibility to infection

Additional Symptoms of Aspartame Toxicity include the most critical symptoms of all
death
irreversible brain damage
birth defects, including mental retardation
peptic ulcers
aspartame addiction and increased craving for sweets
hyperactivity in children
severe depression
aggressive behavior
suicidal tendencies

Aspartame may trigger, mimic, or cause the following illnesses:
Chronic Fatigue Syndrome
Epstein-Barr
Post-Polio Syndrome
Lyme Disease
Grave’s Disease
Meniere’s Disease
Alzheimer’s Disease
ALS
Epilepsy
Multiple Sclerosis (MS)
EMS
Hypothyroidism
Mercury sensitivity from Amalgam fillings
Fibromyalgia
Lupus
non-Hodgkins
Lymphoma
Attention Deficit Disorder (ADD)

These are not allergies or sensitivities, but diseases and disease syndromes. Aspartame poisoning is commonly misdiagnosed because aspartame symptoms mock textbook ‘disease’ symptoms, such as Grave’s Disease.

Aspartame changes the ratio of amino acids in the blood, blocking or lowering the levels of serotonin, tyrosine, dopamine, norepinephrine, and adrenaline. Therefore, it is typical that aspartame symptoms cannot be detected in lab tests and on x-rays. Textbook disorders and diseases may actually be a toxic load as a result of aspartame poisoning.

Ever gone to the doctor with real, physical symptoms, but he/she can’t find the cause? Well, it’s probably your diet, your environment, or both.

Aspartame is the common denominator for over 92 different health symptoms at the root of modern disease. The Aspartame Detoxification Program demonstrates the most effective way to reverse disease symptoms is removing the underlying cause - aspartame.

I counsel aspartame victims worldwide and have witnessed nine out of 10 clients restore their health by following the Aspartame Detoxification Program. Begin with detoxifying your body of all residual chemical toxins from aspartame's chemical make up of phenylalanine, aspartic acid and methanol and their toxic by-products, and see if any adverse health symptoms remain. Try the Aspartame Detoxification Program, and within 30 days your symptoms should disappear.

Steps:

1. Remove all sugar-free products with aspartame from your diet.
2. Learn to 'read' your body. Begin recording any health changes.
3. Get a hair analysis.
4. Be happy with yourself.
5. Detoxify.
6. Restore depleted nutrients.
7. Exercise and get plenty of rest.
8. Eat 75% raw foods at every meal.
9. Drink water, water, water.
10. Get control of your life.

I designed this Ten Step Program to help protect your health and the health of those you love from being seduced by the sugar-free diet craze. Wishing you good health.
What can you do about aspartame side effects?

Set an example by changing your diet.

* Tell everyone you know.
* Talk to the schools and day care centers. Offer to speak at parent-teachers meetings.
* Contact your local, state, and Federal government representatives.
* If you see someone with a diet drink, ask if they have had any of the typical aspartame side effects.
* Spread the word at your work.
* Distribute the Aspartame Consumer Safety Network and Pilot's Hotline
* Tell your doctor about the scientific research available proving the negative side effects of aspartame.
* Register a complaint with the FDA, the FAA, the NutraSweet Company about aspartame poisoning.
* Return all food products with aspartame, opened or unopened, to your grocer. Tell him/her the products make you sick. The grocer can return them to the manufacturer for a store refund. The manufacturer should get the message. So, will the grocer.
* Spread the word on computer networks.
* Publish articles in newsletters at your church, place of work, or neighborhood association.
* Set a personal example for health and wellness.
 
Your heart is in the right place but your head isnt. I dont think you will find any nutritionist or holistic healer who will co-sign on a 14 day strict water fast as an effective or healthy means of fasting. In fact, im sure you wont find any credible person to advise doing so. Im also calling bullshit on having a legitimate elimination (movement) afteer 14days of nothing but water.


What defines credible? With all due respect is it somebody telling you what you would want to hear?

A water fast of 14 days is nothing.

I and others will say these fasts have worked. I felt a hell of a lot better after an extended fast, as have many others.

Fasting on water not only cleanses your body it heals your mind. Many have cured addiction by strict water fasting.

I combine my water fasting with the steam room and sauna. Really I cheat cause I use green tea instead of water as I believe it is more beneficial, others disagree, but I wouldn't say they are not credible. That is crazy.

Water fasting is a tried and proven method of healing. I have done it and so have others. I put little faith in 'experts' that disagree with something proven to work.

I probably could find a ton of people to cosign me on water fasting and ton to say we are bat shit, but how many of the people that think we are bat shit have done it?

Let us talk about the different ways to fast without shitting on any of the ways, as they all work!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Water fasting is hardcore shit.


 
What defines credible? With all due respect is it somebody telling you what you would want to hear?

A water fast of 14 days is nothing.

I and others will say these fasts have worked. I felt a hell of a lot better after an extended fast, as have many others.

Fasting on water not only cleanses your body it heals your mind. Many have cured addiction by strict water fasting.

I combine my water fasting with the steam room and sauna. Really I cheat cause I use green tea instead of water as I believe it is more beneficial, others disagree, but I wouldn't say they are not credible. That is crazy.

Water fasting is a tried and proven method of healing. I have done it and so have others. I put little faith in 'experts' that disagree with something proven to work.

I probably could find a ton of people to cosign me on water fasting and ton to say we are bat shit, but how many of the people that think we are bat shit have done it?

Let us talk about the different ways to fast without shitting on any of the ways, as they all work!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Water fasting is hardcore shit.




i dont know about water fasting( might be to intense for me) but put me on to some of the fasting techniques that are good for beginners
 
Peace my brother Cisco,

I hear you and years ago water alone probably would constitute a sufficient cleansing ritual but today with the host of toxins and unpronounceable chemicals in our food and environment - toxins deposited deep in the bowels, absorbed into our cells and stored in body fat, heavy metals etc water alone is just not going to cut it. You need to eat certain raw foods like organic onion, garlic, beets, sesame, chicory, and other bitters as well as cruciferous vegetables and on top of this you need to consume herbs and amino acids like milk thistle, N-acetyl cysteine, glutathione. Coffee enemas help keep those toxins removed from being reabsorbed in the bowels. There really is a lot more to this then even this and I will post a ritual for any interested but while water alone may be good from the point of view that the person may have stopped visiting KFC or eating toxin filled meats for a fews days the water alone will not eliminate the shit that these savages put in our food, air, water and cosmetic products
each day.

Respect.

Here is my theory on it. I fast on green tea, which is water to me cause there are no calories in it. I believe strongly in the benefits of this drink. If you ever been on the fitness forum you know I always recommend green tea.

I also hit the steam room and sauna as a I believe that sweating shit out while fasting really helps things along. Combine that with the antioxidant effects of green tea and I always feel better afterwards.

All jokes aside I have seen people change there whole fucking lives in 10 days of water fasting.

I have seen people drop as much as 30lbs. :eek: That is how much extra water/feces/fat they were holding. I have had people in tears thanking me.

There mind is clear for the first time in years, no cravings, no smoking, no drinking. It is as much for mental health as it is physical. It shows you are in control, a lot of people need that in there life to break this sickening american diet.
 
i dont know about water fasting( might be to intense for me) but put me on to some of the fasting techniques that are good for beginners

You can do a juice fast or a salad fast.

For a salad fast you will not take in any meat, use spinach, cucumbers and tomato. Make a salad and that is what you eat, eat your fill. Drink plenty of water, but I prefer green tea has it is the best drink out there INHO.

These salads are 'filling' and very healthy and will help you on your way to a healthy life.

What most people say is a salad or juice fast will accomplish in 30 days what a water fast will do in 10.
 
I tend to agree. True shit about high fructose in our foods a but to say our life spans are decreasing is simply not true. So far, no one is posting links saying that but giving up a lot of anecdotal info but not a lot substantiated by the facts.

The bigger issue is quality of life and that relates to a whole host of factors, not just food. As far as food goes, people eat too damn much of it and restaurants give portions way too big.

And who in their right mind will put that level of acid under their arm pits in the first place, then claim not to smell like a room full of Nigerians fresh off the continent? Some people can take this natural idea too far. There is good info in this thread but some of it is borderline nuts.

-VG


Most of this stuff is not scientifically based like you said. It is purely anecdotal evidence. Quality of life is the issue. Is not whether you live long, but how you live?

What I never get is why people get so gung ho about this alternative medicine stuff not realizing that if this stuff was so great then it would turn the medical world on its heels, and the truth is that you are rewarded for proving scientific (medicine included) ideas wrong.


Many of the ailments that we have tend to come from just overeating and lack of exercise. It is nothing more complex than that, but people love conspiracies.

Of Course, I believe there are products that can present harmful effects, but that idea stems from the fact that we are still in our infancy regarding our medical technology so there will be errors but they will eventually correct themselves once we acquire more knowledge.
 
THE BEST NATURAL DEODORANT
IS LEMONS.
I HAVE TRIED IT
AND IT WORKS GREAT.

CUT ONE IN HALF AND SPREAD IT ON JUST LIKE A DEODORANT STICK.:yes:
LAUGH IF YOU LIKE BUT I CHALLENGE ANY OF YOU TO TRY IT.
METAL IN THE HUMAN BODY HELPS CAUSE CANCER.

YOU SHOULD ALSO NOT RAT FOOD FROM METAL CANS
METAL BREAKS DOWN YOUR IMUNE SYSTEM TOO.

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That is also the cure for a hangover. It really does work.:yes:
 
And 200years from now your idiot equal will be spouting off more imbecilic rhetoric by saying "Stop whining about being healthy losers. People are living longer. Back in the early 2000's those fools actually used aluminum under their arms and held cancer boxes called cell phones to their ears all day".

Ignorance truly is bliss.

You just felt like griping or something.

Do you actually know what you are talking about when it comes to health?, or are you just spouting more pseudo-science and anecdotal evidence?

My point is that you are more likely to have a high quality of life than ever before especially if you do the simple thing such as having a healthy diet, less stress, enough sleep and exercise.
 
What defines credible? With all due respect is it somebody telling you what you would want to hear?

A water fast of 14 days is nothing.

I and others will say these fasts have worked. I felt a hell of a lot better after an extended fast, as have many others.

Fasting on water not only cleanses your body it heals your mind. Many have cured addiction by strict water fasting.

I combine my water fasting with the steam room and sauna. Really I cheat cause I use green tea instead of water as I believe it is more beneficial, others disagree, but I wouldn't say they are not credible. That is crazy.

Water fasting is a tried and proven method of healing. I have done it and so have others. I put little faith in 'experts' that disagree with something proven to work.

I probably could find a ton of people to cosign me on water fasting and ton to say we are bat shit, but how many of the people that think we are bat shit have done it?

Let us talk about the different ways to fast without shitting on any of the ways, as they all work!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Water fasting is hardcore shit.



Does it matter if you use tap water?
 
You can do a juice fast or a salad fast.

For a salad fast you will not take in any meat, use spinach, cucumbers and tomato. Make a salad and that is what you eat, eat your fill. Drink plenty of water, but I prefer green tea has it is the best drink out there INHO.

These salads are 'filling' and very healthy and will help you on your way to a healthy life.

What most people say is a salad or juice fast will accomplish in 30 days what a water fast will do in 10.

ok i'll give it a try. Whey protein off limits? If it is dont sound like i'll be doin any trainin then. If i'm wrong let me know and thanks for the info fam
 
Peace kayanation,

Fasting is such a diverse and broad topic. I would need specifics to accurately address any concerns or participate in intelligent discourse on the subject. However, as has been stated, when doing so one must be sure to provide the body with what it needs to properly clean, lube, detox, repair and flush itself. Water alone simply cannot do this. There are tons of fasts to accomplish various goals within the body, one must first articulate his purpose and goal for a fast and we can go from there (cleanse, mental health, weight loss, fatloss, organ detox, colon detox, energy boost, etc...).

This is a quality post WhoNew. Having worked on both sides of the medical line (traditional and so called "alternative") I find this middle path approach that INDIVIDUALIZES needs to be most safe and effective.

Regards healthy eating- I don't think it gets much clearer than to eat as "close to the ground" as possible. If it comes in a brightly colored package and has chemical ingredients then its not something you shouldn't be eating basically. Sometimes the best way to improve is to simplify.

A good rather gentle introduction to healthy eating with a natural perspective including fasting with fluids (Respect Gene C!) is Elson Haas, MD. "Staying Healthy with the Seasons."

We are not just out food- our bodies are intricately tied to our environment and climate and nutrition needs change depending on that.
 
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