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D.C. - Gun Ban Lifted By Supreme Court Today! (NYC Heads Take Notice)

Did you know that bans like these were used to deny slaves the right to protect themselves. White folks see this as away of disarming us.

http://libcom.org/library/racist-roots-gun-control-clayton-e-cramer

There is no way any black man in America should support gun bans. We are a minority in this racist ass country and I will not be disarmed. PERIOD.

Bet he wished he had a gun when they came for him :(
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And don't tell me he should have called the cops :angry:

White folks make sure that they have guns so they can rule you sheep who believe that this society is not ruled gun point.

Unfortunately we are now getting killed more by other blacks than whites and once again I will not be disarmed. PERIOD.

Chicago has had a hand gun ban for as long as I can remember and it had no affect on the GD's or VL's getting any gun they want and committing murders.

Try try talking your way out of a home invasion and see how far it gets you.
 
VegasGuy said:
Good news. I still pray I never have to take a life with my gun. I'll do it if I have to, but I think it will fuck with me forever.

But I wonder when we'll start seeing those anti-Obama posts saying this court ruling was done for a purpose and at the behest of McBush. I know those are not far off.

-VG
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Damn, there is about to be a severe economic downturn for N. Carolina and Virginia gun shop owners. They have been making a KILLING selling "legal" guns that end up in D.C. and NYC for 20 years.
 
Zero said:
Damn, there is about to be a severe economic downturn for N. Carolina and Virginia gun shop owners. They have been making a KILLING selling "legal" guns that end up in D.C. and NYC for 20 years.
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Ohio and Penn. too...hey maybe VA will slash prices to compete...I want a revolver... :lol: :dance:
 
BlackRob said:
Then why doesn't Obama step up and say he's against the ruling. At least McCain states he is FOR the Supreme Court decision.

What's with that BS from Obama I just posted up above??
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I don't have a problem softening his stance on guns. :cool: On a serious note, he is a politician and it's up to the people (including his supporters) to call Obama on his bs just the same as it's on us to support his campaign to make sure he gets elected. He's coming across soft on a few issues because that makes the most sense politically. The people have to check that. So far it seems like folks are willing to give some lenience to get the man into office.

If he's elected he'll get to appoint plenty of federal judges and probably 1 liberal Supreme Court justice over the course of 4 or 8 years though.
 
themainman said:
I support Obama but he's definitely anti guns. At least, he was in Chitown.
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You can't be a pro-gun fanatic and serve the Southside of Chi at the same time. Your opponent could literally pick from 100 different mourning mothers of 10 year old shooting victims to bury you with. On a national stage, things are different because you aren't simply representing an area that has been turned into a war zone by gangs.

You simply aren't going to find many pro-gun inner city activists, but if you represent someplace like say, Montana and are anti-gun, you are done.

Different thoughts on the subject apply in different areas of the country.
 
Zero said:
You can't be a pro-gun fanatic and serve the Southside of Chi at the same time. Your opponent could literally pick from 100 different mourning mothers of 10 year old shooting victims to bury you with. On a national stage, things are different because you aren't simply representing an area that has been turned into a war zone by gangs.

You simply aren't going to find many pro-gun inner city activists, but if you represent someplace like say, Montana and are anti-gun, you are done.

Different thoughts on the subject apply in different areas of the country.
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I agree 150%
 
mosdefinition said:
your more likely to kill someone you know when you legally own a gun period you cant refute it because its a fact. People who legally own guns are more likely to kill someone accisdentally its a fact

so please explain how increasing the number of guns will do anything but cause more damage
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This topic is now 3 pages long so I have not read all your posts. But I suspect the stats you are quoting are including cases of domestic violence involving a handgun. Am I correct? Because if that is the case those killings were not "accidental" these were crimes usually crimes of passion.

So you can't argue that any one individual has a higher likely hood of killing them selves or a loved based on these stats. Since training can reduce accidents and there is no evidence that every one is equally capable of committing these acts of domestic violence.

If that is not what you are quoting then I would argue the the benefit outweighs the risk. How many people die every day in automobile accidents? I'm sure it's far higher than those killed accidentally by handguns. Under your premise we should we restrict people to riding bikes to prevent this which would not be beneficial to most people.

That's my 2 cents.
 
Capo said:
Why do you think this will make DC any unsafer? The niggas that are out killing each other aren't affected by this. This law only allows law abiding citizens to protect themselves. The criminals don't and can't go to the store to buy one. There are already enough illegal guns on the street that criminals don't have a problem getting their hands on one.
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Totally agree. If anything D.C. will be much safer because you will think twice before you jack somebody.

That's what I love about Georgia, you can get a permit to walk around strapped.
 
mosdefinition said:
my whole point was this isnt helping anything you guys decided to start cursing because it wont help only hurt...
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I never cursed at you. my only rebauttal was to question your misrespresentation of my post which you quoted.

I agree that a ban lift wont "help" stop crime. I disagree that it will add to the problem. Furthermore, this was long overdue to lift a ban that was unconstitutional and only served to block the rights of law abiding citizens. DC residents have been screwed over the by supreme court long enough. They next need to address their taxation issues..You know, since they "arent a state" and all...
 
mosdefinition said:
From the NRA

"I consider this the opening salvo in a step-by-step process of providing relief for law-abiding Americans everywhere that have been deprived of this freedom," said Wayne LaPierre, executive vice president of the National Rifle Association.

The NRA will file lawsuits in San Francisco, Chicago and several of its suburbs challenging handgun restrictions there based on Thursday's outcome.

oh i thought it wasnt going to lead anywhere else yep okay i'm done now
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Is something wrong with your brain? Of course rulings set up the striking down of similarly unconstitutional laws. Ifg a ban is wrong in DC it stands to reason is wrong in SF and Chicago. What it doesn't mean is that it clearly leads to Felons getting legal guns.
 
Capo said:
Why do you think this will make DC any unsafer? The niggas that are out killing each other aren't affected by this. This law only allows law abiding citizens to protect themselves. The criminals don't and can't go to the store to buy one. There are already enough illegal guns on the street that criminals don't have a problem getting their hands on one.
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Leroy Soup Nutz said:
Man that was one factor out of many that ultimately made me leave NYC...not having the right to defend myself properly...while all the lunatics out there were armed to the teeth with no concern for gun laws...this is a great move for DC...people...ignorant people fail to realize that gun crimes are ALREADY committed by those who do not follow the law...gun bans don't make it better for criminals dumb asses it makes it better for those who follow the letter of the law to protect themselves against criminals...
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Zero said:
Damn, there is about to be a severe economic downturn for N. Carolina and Virginia gun shop owners. They have been making a KILLING selling "legal" guns that end up in D.C. and NYC for 20 years.
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themainman said:
I don't have a problem softening his stance on guns. :cool: On a serious note, he is a politician and it's up to the people (including his supporters) to call Obama on his bs just the same as it's on us to support his campaign to make sure he gets elected. He's coming across soft on a few issues because that makes the most sense politically. The people have to check that. So far it seems like folks are willing to give some lenience to get the man into office.

If he's elected he'll get to appoint plenty of federal judges and probably 1 liberal Supreme Court justice over the course of 4 or 8 years though.
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Agree with these, esp. the last one.
 
Capo said:
Why do you think this will make DC any unsafer? The niggas that are out killing each other aren't affected by this. This law only allows law abiding citizens to protect themselves. The criminals don't and can't go to the store to buy one. There are already enough illegal guns on the street that criminals don't have a problem getting their hands on one.
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What you folks aren't realizing is that this WILL affect the criminals ability to get their hands on more guns. These dopey ass "law abiding citizens" (who by the way will never use their guns that they will keep in their homes because they wont have the nuts to pull the trigger) will be getting their GUNS STOLEN LEFT AND RIGHT!

There will be a larger black market for guns, and it will thrive because tons of guns will now be accessible to the average crackhead and burglar trying to make a buck, as they steal these things out of homes, cars, and where ever else these moron citizens will keep them.

And DC will reclaim its Murder Capitol moniker.
 
Yeah They Need To Make Heat More Accessible. They Probably Will Pull Some Bullshit Like In Ny Where You Can Have One But They Make It Hard As Hell To Get!
 
ArabianNite said:
What you folks aren't realizing is that this WILL affect the criminals ability to get their hands on more guns. These dopey ass "law abiding citizens" (who by the way will never use their guns that they will keep in their homes because they wont have the nuts to pull the trigger) will be getting their GUNS STOLEN LEFT AND RIGHT!

There will be a larger black market for guns, and it will thrive because tons of guns will now be accessible to the average crackhead and burglar trying to make a buck, as they steal these things out of homes, cars, and where ever else these moron citizens will keep them.

And DC will reclaim its Murder Capitol moniker.
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Good counterpoint.
 
Nat_Turner said:
C/S

Too many do not know the original intent of the 2nd Amendment, yeah it was about being able to defend yourself, from the GOVERNMENT.
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You got it right. Some people think that registering a gun means you are giving the government too much information to know how to come at your ass should Bush decide to bypass the courts on some bullshit.

-VG
 
Damn, this post LIT UP while I was gone. Had no idea so many ppl were concerned with gun laws in D.C.
 
ArabianNite said:
What you folks aren't realizing is that this WILL affect the criminals ability to get their hands on more guns. These dopey ass "law abiding citizens" (who by the way will never use their guns that they will keep in their homes because they wont have the nuts to pull the trigger) will be getting their GUNS STOLEN LEFT AND RIGHT!

There will be a larger black market for guns, and it will thrive because tons of guns will now be accessible to the average crackhead and burglar trying to make a buck, as they steal these things out of homes, cars, and where ever else these moron citizens will keep them.

And DC will reclaim its Murder Capitol moniker.
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I hear your argument, but I don't think making guns legal in dc will significantly affect criminal's access to them. They are already easy to get. They may become a little easier or cheaper, but not by much. Guns won't be stolen left and right, but it will happen. Just like it happens in MD, VA and every other place where citizens are allowed to buy guns, and contributes to the guns available on the black market.

Even still thats not a reason to exclude dc residents from the right to bear arms that the rest of the country has.

I don't agree that guns should be illegal for law abiding citizens, but thats not the issue here. Your argument is more that citizens in the US shouldn't be allowed to buy handguns. This case is more about excluding residents of dc from the protections that the rest of the country enjoys. I haven't read the decision and have seen two articles that said different things about the decision, so I may not be completely accurate on what it really says.

It looks like you want to attack the right to bear arms in general.
 
themainman said:
...and we still wanna know why you posted that bb gun on the 1st page negro:lol::lol:
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Because I was rushing and pulled the first image Google image served up when I searched Jericho 941.

I caught it after I looked back, but really didn't care. 95% of the people on here wouldn't have noticed.

I thought when what's-his-face said it was a "fake" gun, I thought he was refering to the fact that there was no such thing as a J-941, and not the fact that I posted an airsoft.

No biggie. Trust, I know my guns pretty well.
 
all my d.c peeps get at me..i'll cop that weapontry for you for half the price down here in atlanta..FREE SHIPPING AN HANDLING..!!!
LOL

BUSINESS IS ABOUT TO PICK UP..

DAMN..TO ALL MY N.Y PEOPLE...STATE OUT OF THE 'TRI-STATES' THE MURDER RATE IS ABOUT TO PICK UP
 
Heist said:
Because I was rushing and pulled the first image Google image served up when I searched Jericho 941.

I caught it after I looked back, but really didn't care. 95% of the people on here wouldn't have noticed.

I thought when what's-his-face said it was a "fake" gun, I thought he was refering to the fact that there was no such thing as a J-941, and not the fact that I posted an airsoft.

No biggie. Trust, I know my guns pretty well.
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Yea... ok Mr. Magoo, just take somebody with you with vision better than 20/200 to help point out the real guns so you dont go home with a super soaker.

You stay safe alright?
 
mosdefinition said:
and you sound confused as fuck. because its a domino effect first this then someone will challenge whether or not convicted felons are allowed to own guns.

the same cats are always the first to bitch about a government conspiracy trying to kill the black man then when something that makes people less safe occurs your dumbass jumps for joy. You think murders are going to decrease by increasing the number of guns. people who own guns legally are more likely to shoot a family member than an attacker

theres a reason countries with strict gun laws have such a low murder rate no one can carry guns 1 + 1 = 2 you dont see a corelation between that

i cant wait for one of you dumbass who support this to walk into a store and then get shot by a clerk and the clerk claim self defense
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man what you been drinking the reason contries that ban handguns have low murder rates is because they don't have that many guns to begin with. all you antigun motherfuckers talk the same shit, deal with reality.They not going to the store to get a gun. When they come to your house they got one. any responsible gun owner knows to get proper training to handle one. Guns are here to stay for many reasons. why not support educating people on how to properly use and store thier guns so stupid accidents don't happen instad dream guns away like thats gonna happen.

people kill people period the use knifes, guns, poison if he want you dead he'll find a way to make it happen.
 
Amajorfucup listen bitch boy. In DC this is where plans to take over countries, jack gas up to 7.00 a gallon happens. Step out of line u will get put back in place. U talking bout some place U've never been. I've been to South East DC.
 
ArabianNite said:
What you folks aren't realizing is that this WILL affect the criminals ability to get their hands on more guns. These dopey ass "law abiding citizens" (who by the way will never use their guns that they will keep in their homes because they wont have the nuts to pull the trigger) will be getting their GUNS STOLEN LEFT AND RIGHT!

There will be a larger black market for guns, and it will thrive because tons of guns will now be accessible to the average crackhead and burglar trying to make a buck, as they steal these things out of homes, cars, and where ever else these moron citizens will keep them.

And DC will reclaim its Murder Capitol moniker.
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Wow...this nigga is reaching...it's funny how you mosdumb are bypassing logic and practical effects to come up with these farfetched scenarios...
 
Capo said:
Why do you think this will make DC any unsafer? The niggas that are out killing each other aren't affected by this. This law only allows law abiding citizens to protect themselves. The criminals don't and can't go to the store to buy one. There are already enough illegal guns on the street that criminals don't have a problem getting their hands on one.
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I couldn't have said it any better myself. Good post.
 

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