Is there a difference between HIP HOP and RAP???
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there is a difference. t-pain is hip hop. dj khaled is hip hop.
hov is rap. etc.
hov is rap. etc.
Hip Hop is the culture, rap is apart of that culture. There are 5 elements that comprise Hip Hop all of which are pretty much dead except for Emceeing these are:
DJing
Emceeing
Break Dancing
Beat Boxing (Often Excluded)
Graffitti
DJing
Emceeing
Break Dancing
Beat Boxing (Often Excluded)
Graffitti
first there was rap then came hip hop
rap was vocals over beat machines, keyboards, and/or turntables...the focus was on lyrics though
hip hop was vocals over synthesized sampled music (R&B, Jazz, etc...)
each has its own merits
hip hop is a subset of rap
rap owns everything
rap was vocals over beat machines, keyboards, and/or turntables...the focus was on lyrics though
hip hop was vocals over synthesized sampled music (R&B, Jazz, etc...)
each has its own merits
hip hop is a subset of rap
rap owns everything
Hip Hop is a culture. Rappin' (or MCin') is one of the four pillars of Hip Hop.
Hip Hop Is The Culture..
Rap Is Part Of The Culture.. Nough Said.
Rap Is Part Of The Culture.. Nough Said.
THATS IT EXACTLY!! THREADS OVER!
SOUNDS LIKE KRS1 ENTERED THE ROOM AND BROKE IT DOWN
^^^ Thats Real Fuckin' Talk.. Everyone Sit Down, And Close This Thread.
Hip Hop = Cultural movements within a generation of people, where the "quality" of the lyrical content outweighs the projected number of sales reflected from a key demographic.
Rap = Projects that target a large key demographic, and are designed to generate "numbers" as the priority for the project's existence.
Hip Hop is an experience, where Rap is a paint-by-number book, on how you should be, in order to be accepted.
Hip Hop is timeless. Rap has a shelf life of 9 weeks (the addition of radio has been known to extend shelf-life).
Rap = Projects that target a large key demographic, and are designed to generate "numbers" as the priority for the project's existence.
Hip Hop is an experience, where Rap is a paint-by-number book, on how you should be, in order to be accepted.
Hip Hop is timeless. Rap has a shelf life of 9 weeks (the addition of radio has been known to extend shelf-life).
naw man. that ain't true. all the basic forms are alive and well, they're just embraced by the underground. and 'break dancing' is really called 'b-boying' (and even b-girling today). u have to look harder to find practicioners unless you live in a metropolitan area, but it's still there. sheit, i remember when u had to be able to do at least ONE of the 5 elements to be even be in the hip-hop nation. now it's so bastardized, people don't even know the basic elements, let alone that you have to be 'well versed' in one of the elements to even be in the hip hop nation
Hip-hop is what every artist from every part of the world does for the love of the music.
Rap is what the crackers use to keep us divided.
Rap is what the crackers use to keep us divided.
Hip Hop is the culture, rap is apart of that culture. There are 5 elements that comprise Hip Hop all of which are pretty much dead except for Emceeing these are:
DJing
Emceeing
Break Dancing
Beat Boxing (Often Excluded)
Graffitti
You're on the right track...but there are only four elements of Hip Hop & beat boxing isn't one of them.
All four are still alive & kicking.
^ This is the answer except beat-boxing is not one of the elements. LOL @ the people that are trying to say rap and hip-hop are two different forms or some crap. Educate yourselves then speak on it.
Hip Hop is a culture, emerging from the inner-city.
Rap is a form of music, like jazz, gospel, rock, classical or otherwise. The content doesn't change that fact.
Rap is a form of music, like jazz, gospel, rock, classical or otherwise. The content doesn't change that fact.
Hip Hop is the culture! Rap is the bastard child of Emceeing (MC), which means Master of Ceremonies. This is why you never really see any true freestyling!! Except for the King of Freestyle my man, Supernatural! The Industry has exploited the culture from Hip Hop's early days by forming the Suarhill Gang! Check the history! Oh! My man was right, Beat Boxing is not an element, it is an element of emceeing. Remember it was the Dj who gave birth to Hip Hop!
I AM HIPHOP........I AM THE REALEST RAPPER ALIVE
http://collect.myspace.com/music/po...A6YF9sDEm3FhA==d=NjI1MjIyMjZeMTIxMzcwODc1OA==
click the link...the THIRD song is the prefect hiphip/rap song
http://collect.myspace.com/music/po...A6YF9sDEm3FhA==d=NjI1MjIyMjZeMTIxMzcwODc1OA==
click the link...the THIRD song is the prefect hiphip/rap song
yea im wat would call dope http://collect.myspace.com/music/po...A6YF9sDEm3FhA==d=NjI1MjIyMjZeMTIxMzcwODc1OA==
No, you are what I would call a troll.
Break Dancing's true name is just that, Break Dancing...a B-Boy/Girl is someone that partakes in the act of Break Dancing. The last part of your post pretty proves my point right...the fact that you had to to do at least one of the 5 elements in order to be accepted in the Hip Hop Nation back in the days...know why it isn't that way anymore? Because Hip Hop is dead.
Do yall research, Beat Boxing is an element...you can't tell me that Doug E. Fresh ain't hip hop.
I often hear that repeated. It's like one famous person's opinion stated repeatedly over time that has for some reason been accepted as fact. I disagree completely. The art of graffiti existed long before rap or hip hop and is completely independent of it. Break dancing is a dance fad that came well after the birth of hip hop and is no more attached to hip hop than Soulja Boy's Superman that Ho dance. It was just an early dance trend came and went. Hip Hop and rap is music and only music. Most rappers wear chains and gaudy jewelry but people don't include that as a part of hip hop. Most rappers wear fancy sneakers but are sneakers hip hop? Think for yourselves!
Even-though Chicken and Tortillas have existed for a long time independently it still doesn't change the fact that if you put a piece of Chicken in a Tortilla you have a Chicken Taco. To explain that metaphor all I'm saying is that all those elements celebrated together define Hip Hop and create it's uniqueness. You can separate them if you want but then you don't have Hip Hop anymore.
RAP is ONE ELEMENT in HIP HOP...
And for the record, BEAT BOXING is an ELEMENT.. But due to the fact it became popular in the early 1980's instead of the Mid to Late 1970's, I is usually not included as ONE OF THE ORIGINAL 4 when Afrika Bambaataa Defined what made up the Culture of Hip Hop.
See when BamBaataa thought of its definition, He had to make it sound Mystical so he said 4 ELEMENTS + 1 which is KNOWLEDGE. You know 4 ELEMENTS like EARTH WIND FIRE AND WATER...
But for the record in 2008, There are MORE then 4 or 5 ELEMENTS in HIP HOP. You can now include FASHION and a whole lot of other Shits that Make up the CULTURE since MC, DJ, BEATBOX, GRAFFITI and DANCING only make up the ARTS.
TRUST ME ON THIS...
And Soljah Boy is a part of Hiphop. Hes continuting what Greats like Busy Bee started...Crowd Participation. Deep Lyrics started with Melle Mel, Lyrcial Flow started with Kool Moe Dee. But Busy Bee was the Fun Rapper who everyone in the crowd would participate with.. YOUUUUUUUUUUU!
And for the record, BEAT BOXING is an ELEMENT.. But due to the fact it became popular in the early 1980's instead of the Mid to Late 1970's, I is usually not included as ONE OF THE ORIGINAL 4 when Afrika Bambaataa Defined what made up the Culture of Hip Hop.
See when BamBaataa thought of its definition, He had to make it sound Mystical so he said 4 ELEMENTS + 1 which is KNOWLEDGE. You know 4 ELEMENTS like EARTH WIND FIRE AND WATER...
But for the record in 2008, There are MORE then 4 or 5 ELEMENTS in HIP HOP. You can now include FASHION and a whole lot of other Shits that Make up the CULTURE since MC, DJ, BEATBOX, GRAFFITI and DANCING only make up the ARTS.
TRUST ME ON THIS...
And Soljah Boy is a part of Hiphop. Hes continuting what Greats like Busy Bee started...Crowd Participation. Deep Lyrics started with Melle Mel, Lyrcial Flow started with Kool Moe Dee. But Busy Bee was the Fun Rapper who everyone in the crowd would participate with.. YOUUUUUUUUUUU!
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Well then you are respectfully incorrect.
WRONG!!! EMCEEING was SYNONYMOUS with RAPPING back in the 1970's. Listen to the COLD CRUSH or the CRASH CREW... They use the word EMCEEING and RAPPING interchangeably. This is in 1979...
You gave a 1990's Back Backer definition. RAP aint the bastard Child. RAP is the Original Name of the Element and EMCEEING became a word like it.. Kind of like LYRICIST and MICROPHONEIST and so forth...
and BEAT BOXING is not part of EMCEEING, it was invented by DOUG E FRESH back in 1978 and it was always an ART ONTO ITS OWN... the Only Problem was Zulu Nation kept forgetting to Include it in the definition back in the early 1980's. NOW THEY INCLUDE IT and THEY HAVE BEAT BOX BATTLES NOW (And then).
Hip Hop changes with the times. Break Dancing is called B-Boying and the B stands for Break or Boogooloo ( which is a term a kin to poppin') But there are other forms of Dance that come from the Culture.
Patti Duke
Smurf
Baseball
Stomp
Wop
RUNNING MAN (Everyones Favorite)
Prep
Cabbage Patch ( White Folks Fav Hip Hop Dance) ....
all the way down to the
Soulja Boy....
So we change with the times... Right now Breaking and Popping are only performed by the Adepts of the Art. Not by the common Man (unless hes drunk)
As for the Gold Chains and Sneakers.... Its no different then a Jew or a Arab or an Indian or an African... The GARB is a part of the CULTURE... Its not what you wear but HOW YOU WEAR IT. .. For example, Anyone can wear SUITS but the JEWS have these tassels on the side of theirs. Thats a Jewish Thing... So we wear baseball Caps but if you tilt it to the side. THATS A HIP HOP THING...
A GOLD CHAIN is just as much a part of our Culture as the BREST PLATES once worn by the RABBIS in Ancient Israel . RABBIS dont wear BREST PLATES no more and a lot of us dont wear FOUR FINGER RINGS... its still a part of the CULTURE.
Another thing... All the Elements that make up Hip Hop have its origins in different places.
RAPPING came from The South. Muhammad Ali use to Rap.
DeeJaying came from Jamaica. (Scratching and Cutting came from the Bronx)
BREAKING was just dancing crazy BUT if you watch WAXSTAX you will see LOCKERS dancing on the Floor. ( Lockers gave birth to Poppin and Boogooloo ) The History between Breaking and Locking go way back. but thats another story. The Lockers and Breakers met in NYC in the late 1970's when the Lockers were on SNL and somehow found their way UPTOWN and MET other Hip Hop Pioneers. (CLASSIC STORY )
GRAFFITI or TAGGING came from PHILLY but CHICANOS were doing PIECES in CALI for YEARSSSSSSSS.
and all these elements found their way to THE BRONX and it was There the 4 ELEMENTS became 1 under the name : HIP HOP.
REAL TALK.
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