Do you realy think man landed on the moon in the 60s

NASA now is nothing like NASA in the 70's. The budget was stripped and nobody was taking care of shit. And we aren't talking about VHS tape, we are talking about canned film that has to be maintained or it just rots away. All kinds of old film, especially COLOR film has been lost under similar circumstances. I know plenty of people that worked for NASA too inside and outside of Houston, that doesn't really mean shit because most of them that were there long enough got laid off in the 70's and rehired in the 80's.

10,000 tapes were 'lost.'

10,000 nucca. how the fuck do you lose 10,000 of anything? why didn't they lose like 4,500 of them? why not 7,500 before somebody said, "man, i could dub some homegrown on top these reels... don't 'lose' the rest of them. fuck, them betamax shits is high as fuck at the five & dime."

:hmm::hmm::hmm:

an organization of that stature could 'lose' them in a fire, but to just 'lose' them? c'mon, man...

i bet you believe the fbi 'lost' all their 9-11 tapes too, huh?

ted kennedy was asking for them shits today, and his requests were NOT addressed AGAIN.

fuck the moon and who landed there first. i want those fucking tapes so the bgol csi crew can analyze them shits and point out the bullshit.
 
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Show us 1 picture of 1 of the 5 or 6 rovers that were also left there.:rolleyes:

Are you realy that stupid? There isn't a telescope powerful enough to capture a photo of that TINY SPECK of a rover.

What an idiot.

:smh:
 
Ok, I have been a member of this board for longer than most of you may think and I have got to say that more and more, you all are proving to be some of the dumbest fucks I've ever come across.

I will say that I know the government has covered up a lot of shit but I would love to have a full explanation of what happened to the rocket that the whole east coast of Florida watched blast off. What happened to the sailors on the ship that pulled the capsule out of the damn ocean? Why haven't they talked if it was a cover-up? There are just too many things that would have needed to be covered up.

I say, get a damn life in 2008 and start dealing with issues that will get your ass somewhere in life. :dance:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

:yes: Every few weeks a new thread forces this realization upon me. :yes:
 
let's review:

1) cold war
2) obedience to authority by Stanley Milgram

let's take it a step further:

3) Rwanda Genocide
4) Nazi's and the Holocaust
5) the World Bank and the IMF

catch my drift? here's a hint: define propaganda

here's another hint: compare and contrast

and yet another hint: study imperialism
e.g. Public Power in the Age of Empire by Arundhati Roy

i didn't deny or confirm that i believe that we were the first to land on the moon. it's a moot point.

but in the context of the cold war, why do you think it was important for the U.S. to be the "first on the moon"?


here's the bottom line nephew: you lack the very fundamentals of analytical thought.

maybe it's time for you to come up with a new routine. it's clear to me that you're a simpleton, and you use uni-causal analysis as the base of your knowledge.

That's the whole thing in a nutshell. That's why we spent the money to go, and that's why we haven't gone back. Like has been said a few times prior, the technology to go to the moon wasn't shit, but the cost of going to the moon (for no real apparent purpose OTHER than propaganda) makes it a MASSIVE waste of money (considering what's gained by going). Same reason Reagan wanted the Star Wars missile defense system (that shit would have been next-leve impressive if completed) and Bush wanted to start talking that Mars shit when his poll numbers first started going in the toilet (before Rove told him "Fuck it, I got you covered"). A trip to the Moon or Mars ain't that big of a deal if you are willing to...
  1. kill a few folks trying
  2. spend as much as it will cost
BOTH of these things were done trying to go to the moon and both have been done over and over by aspiring empires since civilization began. An empire ain't an empire without an impressive act of technological magic to go along with it (see Pyramids and temples through history that bankrupted kingdoms and cost more lives than they were really worth for proof of this). If you are willing to "expend" enough humans and spend enough cash, damn near ANYTHING can be done (and a moon flight ain't shit technically or financially compared to a damn pyramid). The moon flight wasn't fake, but it was an overpriced, overhyped testament to the cold war American empire and pretty much said to the rest of the world "We are gonna win this bullshit cold war because we have deeper pockets".
 
Are you realy that stupid? There isn't a telescope powerful enough to capture a photo of that TINY SPECK of a rover.

What an idiot.

:smh:

bitch, google earth is free. and i can use it to zoom in to my own backyard to the point where i can see my doghouses.

and you mean to tell me that they can see stars and planets and shit but they can't see a rover on the moon?

where them tapes? show them to the public.
 
10,000 tapes were 'lost.'

10,000 nucca. how the fuck do you lose 10,000 of anything? why didn't they lose like 4,500 of them? why not 7,500 before somebody said, "man, i could dub some homegrown on top these reels... don't 'lose' the rest of them. fuck, them betamax shits is high as fuck at the five & dime."

Obviously you're too young and brittle to understand that the "taping" process used then was primitive by today's standards, although extremely advanced for the times in terms of portable video cameras. The fact that we even got pictures from the moon (in a recognizable format) was a miracle of technology. It was extremely difficult and expensive to transfer the images transmitted from the moon to tape (and then those pictures had to be filmed) in the first place, for mass transmission. There was no reason to (expensively) keep (or transfer) thousands of degenerating tapes. The essential material was preserved (via expensive and difficult tape transfer) as best as it could be. The rest was expendable.

Read up on the actual manner in which video signals from the moon were transmitted to Earth, and how they were received, flipped, filmed and broadcast. It was extremely complicated and expensive. The "tapes" and recording process used then had nothing to do with what you're familiar with today. Don't be ignorant. (There's very little that was recorded on TAPE pre-'70s that is available today. Different world, kid.)
 
10,000 tapes were 'lost.'

10,000 nucca. how the fuck do you lose 10,000 of anything? why didn't they lose like 4,500 of them? why not 7,500 before somebody said, "man, i could dub some homegrown on top these reels... don't 'lose' the rest of them. fuck, them betamax shits is high as fuck at the five & dime."

:hmm::hmm::hmm:

an organization of that stature could 'lose' them in a fire, but to just 'lose' them? c'mon, man...

i bet you believe the fbi 'lost' all their 9-11 tapes too, huh?

ted kennedy was asking for them shits today, and his requests were NOT addressed AGAIN.

fuck the moon and who landed there first. i want those fucking tapes so the bgol csi crew can analyze them shits and point out the bullshit.

Why would they have 10,000 tapes when they used a film camera on the moon (for the color images)? The video was grainy and looked like shit (a football game was grainy on video back then, so how do you think video from the moon looked even on the BEST equipment?

Why would they have 10,000 tapes when I don't think they logged enough hours on apollo missions to fill 10,000 film cannisters?

They have launch film and in-air film of every mission in black and white.

They have mission control audio and video of every mission.

They have still photos of every mission archived online (look it up).

Not to mention, the FIRST event is always the one captured for history, be it the record breaking home run or the first car built. That's the one shipped to museums and whatnot. The rest were simple film capture of missions NOBODY GAVE A SHIT ABOUT WHEN THEY ACTUALLY WERE HAPPENING! Moon missions back then were like space shuttle missions now, if shit wasn't blowing up, only a few hardcore followers even cared after the first or second trip.

The 9-11 tapes were confiscated, the GITMO torture tapes were destroyed, the NASA tapes simply were forgotten and got fucked up.

Are you sure you aren't talking 10,000 hours and not 10,000 tapes? 10,000 hours is 416 days, that sounds about right as far as actual Apollo mission hours in space.
 
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blunt, ain't nobody trying to analyze taping technology from yesteryear versus today.

the point is... even if it's for purely historical purposes, HOW THE FUCK DO YOU 'LOSE' 10,000 fucking tapes?

i got microfilm records of when i was born in 1968; so why doesn't nasa, who has technology that NONE of us has ever seen, have those tapes of something that historical/

where are the 9-11 tapes from the fbi that are now 'lost'? what's your excuse for those?
 
bitch, google earth is free. and i can use it to zoom in to my own backyard to the point where i can see my doghouses.

and you mean to tell me that they can see stars and planets and shit but they can't see a rover on the moon?

where them tapes? show them to the public.

Bruh, the satellite google Earth uses for those pics is about 235,000 miles CLOSER to your dog kennels than it is to the surface of the moon. The first moon orbiting satellites were launched THIS YEAR by Japan or China (can't remember which) and pics have just started coming back.
 
bitch, google earth is free. and i can use it to zoom in to my own backyard to the point where i can see my doghouses.

and you mean to tell me that they can see stars and planets and shit but they can't see a rover on the moon?

where them tapes? show them to the public.


Google earth is a satellite, in close earth orbit.
Even if you pointed that bitch @ the moon, do you know how much farther away the surface of the moon is from it, than the surface o the earth is?

THERE ARE NO SERIOUS PROPONENTS OF THE MOON LANDING HOAX.
So why the fuck would anyone waste observatory hours photographing junk left on the moon?

I am struck dumb by the irony that it takes a fucking lunatic, to believe we've never been to the moon.
 
blunt, ain't nobody trying to analyze taping technology from yesteryear versus today.

the point is... even if it's for purely historical purposes, HOW THE FUCK DO YOU 'LOSE' 10,000 fucking tapes?

Your interpretation of that info is flawed. No one "lost" 10,000 "tapes" (as you know them).
 
Read up on the actual manner in which video signals from the moon were transmitted to Earth, and how they were received, flipped, filmed and broadcast.

[FLASH]http://www.youtube.com/v/bs4pTCqhTfY&rel=1[/FLASH]
 
The 9-11 tapes were confiscated, the GITMO torture tapes were destroyed, the NASA tapes simply were forgotten and got fucked up.

Are you sure you aren't talking 10,000 hours and not 10,000 tapes? 10,000 hours is 416 days, that sounds about right as far as actual Apollo mission hours in space.

http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/node/561

from the article:

"With about five tapes in each box, "you are talking 10,000 to 13,000 tapes in the boxes," Nafzger said in a teleconference."

i stand corrected. it was 10,000 to 13,000 tapes. my bad. :rolleyes:

:hmm:

do y'all even watch/read the news?
 
Are you realy that stupid? There isn't a telescope powerful enough to capture a photo of that TINY SPECK of a rover.

What an idiot.

:smh:

Look you dumb whatever da fuck you are. There are telescopes
in space powerful enough to read a newspaper from over your
fucking shoulder, yet they can't see something as large as a got
damncar on the moon? Get your moronic ass outta here cousin it.
:smh:
 
http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/node/561

from the article:

"With about five tapes in each box, "you are talking 10,000 to 13,000 tapes in the boxes," Nafzger said in a teleconference."

i stand corrected. it was 10,000 to 13,000 tapes. my bad. :rolleyes:

:hmm:

do y'all even watch/read the news?

Dog the article you are quoting is talking about the Apollo 11 data tapes. They have STRONG, CLEAR audio and video of the entire Apollo 11 mission. They have more audio and video of that mission than any other mission including COLOR still photos and video of the first steps and most of the mission. I thought you were talking about tapes of other missions. WHO GIVES A SHIT if they lost data of Neil Armstrong's heart rate at the time of touchdown or audio chatter between the lander and orbiter. Nothing was even really lost on those tapes that hasn't already been transferred to video and rebroadcast 10 million times.

Your trippin' dog, grasping for fuckin' straws. So what, they lost some masters of shit already WIDELY in circulation due to mismanagement.

News

NASA loses Moon landing tapes

Wednesday, 16 August 2006
Agençe Presse-France

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Buzz Aldrin, as snapped by Neil Armstrong as they explored the Moon in 1969. The tapes of the landing have gone missing.
Image: NASA

WASHINGTON, 16 August 2006: NASA no longer knows the whereabouts of the original tapes of man's first landing on the Moon nearly 40 years ago, an official of the U.S. space agency said on Tuesday.
"NASA is searching for the original tapes of the Apollo 11 spacewalk on July 21, 1969," said Ed Campion, a spokesman for NASA's Goddard Space Flight Centre in Greenbelt, Maryland, a Washington suburb.
The tapes record the famous declaration of Apollo astronaut Neil Armstrong, the first man on the Moon, as he set foot on its surface: "That's one small step for [a] man; one giant leap for mankind."
The original tapes could be somewhere at the Goddard centre or in the archives network of the American space agency, Campion said.
The search for the tapes began about a year and a half ago when the Goddard Space Flight Centre's authorities realised they no longer knew where they were after retired employees asked to consult them.
Armstrong, the first human to walk on the Moon, was the commander of the first U.S. lunar mission aboard the Apollo 11 capsule, with astronauts Michael Collins and Buzz Aldrin, the latter of whom is also a member of the COSMOS Editorial Advisory Board.
Armstrong's landing on the Moon's surface on 21 July 1969, was watched live by millions of television viewers worldwide.
The original tapes of the Apollo 11 mission were recorded at three tracking stations: Goldstone in California and, in Australia, by Honeysuckle Creek Tracking Station and Parkes Observatory in New South Wales state.
They were then sent to the Goddard Space Flight Centre, which transferred them to the National Archives in late 1969. Later, NASA asked to recover the tapes and that is where the trace disappeared.
"A search is being planned, aimed at finding what happened to the Goddard-recalled Apollo 11 mission data tapes," Campion said.
The search effort involves sifting through 30-year old records and contacting retired Goddard personnel, he added.
The task is challenging. Richard Nafzger, a Goddard engineer, said there were 2,612 boxes of tapes that NASA believes are related to the space missions, including the Apollo 11 mission. The boxes were returned to the space agency between 1970 and 1975.
With about five tapes in each box, "you are talking 10,000 to 13,000 tapes in the boxes," Nafzger said in a teleconference.
The data tapes included one track for video images and other tracks of information like the astronauts' heartbeat, voice and biomedical tracking data, he said.
"We are tracking paperwork to see if it's in a storage facility outside of Goddard, possibly at Goddard," the engineer said.
 
i stand corrected. it was 10,000 to 13,000 tapes. my bad.

do y'all even watch/read the news?

WTF?? That's nothing of significance. Anything of value from that RAW (and long-forgotten and filed-away) footage/data was otherwise preserved or used as needed at the time. The rest is just memorabilia. Very primitive stuff. That's like keeping thousands of hours of basic air traffic control transmissions around for decades.
 
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Look you dumb whatever da fuck you are. There are telescopes
in space powerful enough to read a newspaper from over your
fucking shoulder, yet they can't see something as large as a got
damncar on the moon? Get your moronic ass outta here cousin it.
:smh:

Once again bruh, the average satellite is a few miles up in Earth orbit, the MOON IS ABOUT 250,000 MILES AWAY FROM THOSE SATELLITES. Do the math dog. 5-8 miles in Earth orbit vs. 250,000 MILES AWAY. We can see shit with the Hubble 500,000 times larger than the MILKY WAY GALAXY light years away, things the size of our solar system are dots. The rest is "SEEN" using mathematical formulas and then simulated. You really think it's that easy to see something the size of a VW BUG sitting STATIONARY on a rock 250,000 MILES AWAY? Half the shit we "see" in space is due to it's motion or it's gravitational force on something near it that is larger. Shit is NOT just a zoom lense away. 250,000 MILES is still a LONG ass way for a human to comprehend.
 
Look you dumb whatever da fuck you are. There are telescopes
in space powerful enough to read a newspaper from over your
fucking shoulder, yet they can't see something as large as a got
damncar on the moon? Get your moronic ass outta here cousin it.
:smh:

Tell em again. BrainWashed Idiots. My answer is still N to the IzzzO
 
Dog the article you are quoting is talking about the Apollo 11 data tapes. They have STRONG, CLEAR audio and video of the entire Apollo 11 mission. They have more audio and video of that mission than any other mission including COLOR still photos and video of the first steps and most of the mission. I thought you were talking about tapes of other missions. WHO GIVES A SHIT if they lost data of Neil Armstrong's heart rate at the time of touchdown or audio chatter between the lander and orbiter. Nothing was even really lost on those tapes that hasn't already been transferred to video and rebroadcast 10 million times.

Your trippin' dog, grasping for fuckin' straws. So what, they lost some masters of shit already WIDELY in circulation due to mismanagement.

where are the tapes?

i didn't write the fucking article, i just quoted it. obviously, someone wants the tapes, but they're long gone.

i'm sorry, but i just don't get with the "government" version of everything on cnn, etc.

NASA LOSES MOON LANDING TAPES is the title of the article. memorabilia or otherwise, they should be made public to be analzyed with TODAY'S technology...

or all y'all scared of the possibility that some gov't bullshit actually went down.

i bet you gov't issue type nuccas don't believe the tuskegee project either, huh? :smh:

again, fuck the moon landing.

i'm simply asking, where are all those fucking tapes?
 
where are the tapes?

i didn't write the fucking article, i just quoted it. obviously, someone wants the tapes, but they're long gone.

i'm sorry, but i just don't get with the "government" version of everything on cnn, etc.

NASA LOSES MOON LANDING TAPES is the title of the article. memorabilia or otherwise, they should be made public to be analzyed with TODAY'S technology...

or all y'all scared of the possibility that some gov't bullshit actually went down.

i bet you gov't issue type nuccas don't believe the tuskegee project either, huh? :smh:

again, fuck the moon landing.

i'm simply asking, where are all those fucking tapes?

Dog, they are talking about the raw data tapes. Most of the shit that would matter to the mass public (actual video and audio) is there to see by anyone who cares to see it. If they lost the masters to your favorite song, would you give a shit? Would it be a conspiracy? YOU posted the article, read it dog. It's Apollo 11. You want to see the mission, google "Apollo 11 video".

Apollo 11 Video and Images

Apollo 11 Videos

You want to comb through 10,000 more tapes. You think the hours of video and audio that you've seen are fake, what difference would it make to you if you watched all 10,000 tapes (most of which is data you wouldn't even understand).
 
Dude you've got to be shittin' me. Have you ever been to NASA? I'm not talking about "just the exhibits" either. There's no way on Earth they'd let those tapes "just" fall apart. I still have VHS tape in my closet from the 80's in tact. And you believe they just dry rotted? They never copied them? They never backed them up? A company that prides itself on compiling data just let them go, just like that. I live in Houston and know people that work there. Some of them have worked there for over 30 years...YEA RIGHT....THERE WERE NO TAPES DUDE.

Dog, they don't have physicists filing the shit, they have FILE CLERKS doing it. I worked for the DOD when I was younger for a summer in high school filing docs marked CLASSIFIED for $6.00 an hour. A warehouse worker is a warehouse worker. They didn't know the shit was Apollo mission tape, it was just more boxes for them to find a place to put. The older the boxes got, the less of a shit the dudes that managed the boxes probably cared about them. The longer they go without anybody of note asking for them, the deeper they get buried.

I worked transferring old docs from paper filing and microfiche to a computer database and there was an entire section devoted to shit we couldn't identify that was just "put away". That shit could have been the Kennedy assassination files for all I knew, but it couldn't be ID'd and it's sitting in a box in the Boston fed building on Summer street on a shelf, probably forever.
 
i'm sorry, but i just don't get with the "government" version of everything on cnn, etc.

NASA LOSES MOON LANDING TAPES is the title of the article. memorabilia or otherwise, they should be made public to be analzyed with TODAY'S technology...

or all y'all scared of the possibility that some gov't bullshit actually went down.

i bet you gov't issue type nuccas don't believe the tuskegee project either, huh? :smh:

I certainly do. But I am fuckin dyin to hear what you think happened there?
(Go head, off the dome....spit what you know....)
 
Dog, they are talking about the raw data tapes. Most of the shit that would matter to the mass public (actual video and audio) is there to see by anyone who cares to see it. If they lost the masters to your favorite song, would you give a shit? Would it be a conspiracy? YOU posted the article, read it dog. It's Apollo 11. You want to see the mission, google "Apollo 11 video".

Apollo 11 Video and Images

Apollo 11 Videos

You want to comb through 10,000 more tapes. You think the hours of video and audio that you've seen are fake, what difference would it make to you if you watched all 10,000 tapes (most of which is data you wouldn't even understand).

it doesn't take hours & hours of me watching 10K tapes, but all it would take is a few SECONDS of any one of them bitches to deem the ENTIRE project as BOGUS. period.

a request was made to review those tapes-just like a request was made to view the 9-11 tapes. both times, it was stated that the tapes were 'lost.'

i'm surprised that you cats also buy the supposed FACT that the 9-11 tapes were lost as well. :smh::smh::smh:

the biggest strike on american soil, and the fbi 'lost' their tapes and you gov't issued type nuccas are standing proud saying, "yessa, massa, if you say you lost them, then fuck it, you lost them. and fuck anybody who doesn't believe you lost them."

:smh:

I certainly do. But I am fuckin dyin to hear what you think happened there?
(Go head, off the dome....spit what you know....)

instead, let me bring you the NEW TUSKEGEE PROJECT "off the dome."

the gov't did an experiment to develop an autoimmune virus that would attack humans-similar to how autoimmune diseases attack horses, monkeys, and cats. the new virus, named HIV was distributed to poor communities in the form of 'vaccines' in the early 80's.

years later, the bayer corporation was 'busted' and caught as having distributed HIV 'unknowingly.'

INSTEAD OF IGANANT NICCAS LOOKING AT THE FACT THAT SOMEHOW THE BAYER CORPORATION managed to develop a 'virus' that can survive without a host, niccas instead challenge the validity of the argument.

now, let's rewind to what happened in the past:

as for the tuskegee project, i'm in no mood to take a test by some internet "gov't company man," but i will say this:

i respect bill clinton for being the 1st AND ONLY president in american history to apologize for what the gov't did to the poor folks that were subjected to this syphilis "EXPERIMENT."

like syphilis, AIDS is now running rampant thru those same minority communities.
 
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it doesn't take hours & hours of me watching 10K tapes, but all it would take is a few SECONDS of any one of them bitches to deem the ENTIRE project as BOGUS. period.

a request was made to review those tapes-just like a request was made to view the 9-11 tapes. both times, it was stated that the tapes were 'lost.'

i'm surprised that you cats also buy the supposed FACT that the 9-11 tapes were lost as well. :smh::smh::smh:

the biggest strike on american soil, and the fbi 'lost' their tapes and you gov't issued type nuccas are standing proud saying, "yessa, massa, if you say you lost them, then fuck it, you lost them. and fuck anybody who doesn't believe you lost them."

:smh:



instead, let me bring you the NEW TUSKEGEE PROJECT "off the dome."

the gov't did an experiment to develop an autoimmune virus that would attack humans-similar to how autoimmune diseases attack horses, monkeys, and cats. the new virus, named HIV was distributed to poor communities in the form of 'vaccines' in the early 80's.

years later, the bayer corporation was 'busted' and caught as having distributed HIV 'unknowingly.'

INSTEAD OF IGANANT NICCAS LOOKING AT THE FACT THAT SOMEHOW THE BAYER CORPORATION managed to develop a 'virus' that can survive without a host, niccas instead challenge the validity of the argument.

now, let's rewind to what happened in the past:

as for the tuskegee project, i'm in no mood to take a test by some internet "gov't company man," but i will say this:

i respect bill clinton for being the 1st AND ONLY president in american history to apologize for what the gov't did to the poor folks that were subjected to this syphilis "EXPERIMENT."

like syphilis, AIDS is now running rampant thru those same minority communities.

Yeah...you can't get a way with NONE of that without a link playboy.
And as far as Tuskegee...how'd they get that syphilis, conspiracy-man?
 
I certainly do. But I am fuckin dyin to hear what you think happened there?
(Go head, off the dome....spit what you know....)

Bottom line is, there really ain't any reason for an Apollo cover-up because as far as propaganda goes, the shit was a failure. Americans didn't give a shit after the first mission. There are MAD Apollo astronauts who grew old and bitter because nobody cared when they touched down and nobody watched when they were up there. Nobody REALLY gives a shit about it even today because ,even though nobody has gone back to the moon, a moonshot just seems like small potatoes. So why destroy tapes or fake a mission that just didn't end up being as big of a deal as they thought it would be? And they had the budget AND the technology to do it, so why not just go ahead and do the shit? It just ain't that deep. Russia had the technology too eventually, but didn't want to spend the cash (and later didn't HAVE the cash). ANYBODY with a few billion dollars to blow can go to the moon, just ain't no reason to go. I could afford to go to fuckin' North Dakota TODAY (shit looks like the surface of the moon, is about as fun, is almost as cold and I could even fuckin' BREATH), but why the fuck would I want to waste the cash?
 
a request was made to review those tapes-just like a request was made to view the 9-11 tapes. both times, it was stated that the tapes were 'lost.'

i'm surprised that you cats also buy the supposed FACT that the 9-11 tapes were lost as well. :smh::smh::smh:

the biggest strike on american soil, and the fbi 'lost' their tapes and you gov't issued type nuccas are standing proud saying, "yessa, massa, if you say you lost them, then fuck it, you lost them. and fuck anybody who doesn't believe you lost them."

Bruh, the 9-11 tapes WERE NOT LOST, they were CONFISCATED and possibly destroyed. HUGE difference, one is a BLATANT coverup, the other is just some old ass data from a mission nobody really gave a shit about for DECADES other than postage stamp art, a couple of movies and tech conventions.

Where WE differ is that I don't put Apollo on the same level of importance as 9-11 or the Tuskegee experiment. 9-11 and Tuskegee had LASTING affects on all types of policy and social issues, Apollo was just a dude bouncing around collecting rocks (ask folks from that era, it played out QUICKLY after that first mission).

HIV for all the world looking like a man-made, programmed germ warfare experiment is NOT on the same level as Apollo either. I CARE if AIDS is a bioweapon, I don't give a shit if Apollo was fake or not because it doesn't make much difference one way or the other (although it WAS real).

Tuskegee, AIDS and 9-11 conspiracies (AT LEAST) have produced some sort of viable gain for somebody in government or the private sector. NASA has done nothing but BLEED funding since Apollo. It helped them short-term and KILLED them long-term.
 
Bottom line is, there really ain't any reason for an Apollo cover-up because as far as propaganda goes, the shit was a failure. Americans didn't give a shit after the first mission. There are MAD Apollo astronauts who grew old and bitter because nobody cared when they touched down and nobody watched when they were up there. Nobody REALLY gives a shit about it even today because ,even though nobody has gone back to the moon, a moonshot just seems like small potatoes. So why destroy tapes or fake a mission that just didn't end up being as big of a deal as they thought it would be? And they had the budget AND the technology to do it, so why not just go ahead and do the shit? It just ain't that deep. Russia had the technology too eventually, but didn't want to spend the cash (and later didn't HAVE the cash). ANYBODY with a few billion dollars to blow can go to the moon, just ain't no reason to go. I could afford to go to fuckin' North Dakota TODAY (shit looks like the surface of the moon, is about as fun, is almost as cold and I could even fuckin' BREATH), but why the fuck would I want to waste the cash?

North Dakota doesn't exist. Its one of the 22 so-called states that the Illuminati "added" to the total after the Revolutionary War as propaganda to make white Americans believe that Manifest Destiny was a success. And the sheeple believed it. If you can manage to get beyond the razor wire fences that the government claims "demarcate the boundaries of various National Parks" you would find a Native American society rivaling Atlantis. They produce all the technology that US citizens give white science credit for. We have been to the Moon, but haven't been back since the 70's because the Native Americans refuse to cooperate with NASA. They've been trying to reverse engineer the shuttle technology but can't get it right...hence the Challenger and Columbia disasters....folks need to read up and stop listenin to the government line.
 
Yeah...you can't get a way with NONE of that without a link playboy.
And as far as Tuskegee...how'd they get that syphilis, conspiracy-man?

they caught the syphilis from your moms. that's how.

why the fuck do you feel the need to test me on something that's a historical blackeye for the usa vs. black people?

EVERY BLACK PERSON SHOULD KNOW THE DETAILS of the tuskegee project. ALL OF US. period. so take your own fucking test and educate yourself.

Bruh, the 9-11 tapes WERE NOT LOST, they were CONFISCATED and possibly destroyed. HUGE difference, one is a BLATANT coverup, the other is just some old ass data from a mission nobody really gave a shit about for DECADES other than postage stamp art, a couple of movies and tech conventions.

Where WE differ is that I don't put Apollo on the same level of importance as 9-11 or the Tuskegee experiment. 9-11 and Tuskegee had LASTING affects on all types of policy and social issues, Apollo was just a dude bouncing around collecting rocks (ask folks from that era, it played out QUICKLY after that first mission).

HIV for all the world looking like a man-made, programmed germ warfare experiment is NOT on the same level as Apollo either. I CARE if AIDS is a bioweapon, I don't give a shit if Apollo was fake or not because it doesn't make much difference one way or the other (although it WAS real).

Tuskegee, AIDS and 9-11 conspiracies (AT LEAST) have produced some sort of viable gain for somebody in government or the private sector. NASA has done nothing but BLEED funding since Apollo. It helped them short-term and KILLED them long-term.

the news just tonight had a short segment on how the fbi has 'lost' the 9-11 tapes. i'm simply repeating what i heard on the news today. one of the senators who was on the 9-11 commission requested the tapes for review, and the "official" fbi response was, "they were lost."

and again, just for purely historical purposes, how does nasa conveniently lose all those tapes-right when they were being requested by interest groups?
 
they caught the syphilis from your moms. that's how.

why the fuck do you feel the need to test me on something that's a historical blackeye for the usa vs. black people?

EVERY BLACK PERSON SHOULD KNOW THE DETAILS of the tuskegee project. ALL OF US. period. so take your own fucking test and educate yourself.

Exactly...
Fuckin conspiracy dunces :smh:
You equated it with the Bayer/Aids Project that you apparently pulled out of your ASS. Your own account the HIV conspiracy included GIVING Aids to the population, but (and this is known to anyone who actually read the documents that NAILED the physicians), the Tuskegee experiment didn't involve a single case of disease transmission.

But of course you knew that...
And the Bayer/AIDS link?....
 
the news just tonight had a short segment on how the fbi has 'lost' the 9-11 tapes. i'm simply repeating what i heard on the news today. one of the senators who was on the 9-11 commission requested the tapes for review, and the "official" fbi response was, "they were lost."

and again, just for purely historical purposes, how does nasa conveniently lose all those tapes-right when they were being requested by interest groups?

They may have "LOST" the 9-11 tapes NOW, but they weren't lost then, they were confiscated. If they are "LOST" now, then they were lost in a controlled fire in somebodies incenerator.:smh:

As far as the NASA tapes dog, who gives a shit BUT some small internet conspiracy groups? NOBODY GAVE A SHIT WHEN IT WAS ON LIVE TV, the astronauts themselves and MANY NASA folks have grown old and bitter because they felt they did this "GREAT" thing that nobody cared about. There was better and more important shit on TV after Apollo 11 for folks to watch like 'Nam, the war protests, the Manson Family and the civil rights movement/riots. They landed on the moon 5 more times and nobody cared after the first time.

NASA was probably happy as hell somebody asked for the tapes and look like COMPLETE ASSES not being able to provide them and get some attention (and FUNDING) from the hype.
 
Exactly...
Fuckin conspiracy dunces :smh:
You equated it with the Bayer/Aids Project that you apparently pulled out of your ASS. Your own account the HIV conspiracy included GIVING Aids to the population, but (and this is known to anyone who actually read the documents that NAILED the physicians), the Tuskegee experiment didn't involve a single case of disease transmission.

But of course you knew that...
And the Bayer/AIDS link?....

what conspiracy nucca? the tuskegee EXPERIMENT was a fucking EXPERIMENT ON BLACK PEOPLE and your ignorant ass is worried about the specifics of the experiment.

who gives a fuck it there were no transmissions. i give a fuck about black people being used as guinea pigs.

and if they didn't tell those black men about the 'disease' they were experimenting with, did they stop them from fucking?

now, why don't you show me where your no transmission data originates?

you must be a fucking cracker or something... worried about the semantics of a damn experiment and NOT being concerned about the experiment itself. :smh::smh::smh:

from cbs news: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/06/03/health/main556653.shtml
 
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