NASA now is nothing like NASA in the 70's. The budget was stripped and nobody was taking care of shit. And we aren't talking about VHS tape, we are talking about canned film that has to be maintained or it just rots away. All kinds of old film, especially COLOR film has been lost under similar circumstances. I know plenty of people that worked for NASA too inside and outside of Houston, that doesn't really mean shit because most of them that were there long enough got laid off in the 70's and rehired in the 80's.
Show us 1 picture of 1 of the 5 or 6 rovers that were also left there.![]()
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Ok, I have been a member of this board for longer than most of you may think and I have got to say that more and more, you all are proving to be some of the dumbest fucks I've ever come across.
I will say that I know the government has covered up a lot of shit but I would love to have a full explanation of what happened to the rocket that the whole east coast of Florida watched blast off. What happened to the sailors on the ship that pulled the capsule out of the damn ocean? Why haven't they talked if it was a cover-up? There are just too many things that would have needed to be covered up.
I say, get a damn life in 2008 and start dealing with issues that will get your ass somewhere in life.![]()
let's review:
1) cold war
2) obedience to authority by Stanley Milgram
let's take it a step further:
3) Rwanda Genocide
4) Nazi's and the Holocaust
5) the World Bank and the IMF
catch my drift? here's a hint: define propaganda
here's another hint: compare and contrast
and yet another hint: study imperialism
e.g. Public Power in the Age of Empire by Arundhati Roy
i didn't deny or confirm that i believe that we were the first to land on the moon. it's a moot point.
but in the context of the cold war, why do you think it was important for the U.S. to be the "first on the moon"?
here's the bottom line nephew: you lack the very fundamentals of analytical thought.
maybe it's time for you to come up with a new routine. it's clear to me that you're a simpleton, and you use uni-causal analysis as the base of your knowledge.
Are you realy that stupid? There isn't a telescope powerful enough to capture a photo of that TINY SPECK of a rover.
What an idiot.
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Are you realy that stupid? There isn't a telescope powerful enough to capture a photo of that TINY SPECK of a rover.
What an idiot.
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10,000 tapes were 'lost.'
10,000 nucca. how the fuck do you lose 10,000 of anything? why didn't they lose like 4,500 of them? why not 7,500 before somebody said, "man, i could dub some homegrown on top these reels... don't 'lose' the rest of them. fuck, them betamax shits is high as fuck at the five & dime."
10,000 tapes were 'lost.'
10,000 nucca. how the fuck do you lose 10,000 of anything? why didn't they lose like 4,500 of them? why not 7,500 before somebody said, "man, i could dub some homegrown on top these reels... don't 'lose' the rest of them. fuck, them betamax shits is high as fuck at the five & dime."
an organization of that stature could 'lose' them in a fire, but to just 'lose' them? c'mon, man...
i bet you believe the fbi 'lost' all their 9-11 tapes too, huh?
ted kennedy was asking for them shits today, and his requests were NOT addressed AGAIN.
fuck the moon and who landed there first. i want those fucking tapes so the bgol csi crew can analyze them shits and point out the bullshit.
If this was real why does the ground fall off in the background. Like why didn't the horizon keep going.
bitch, google earth is free. and i can use it to zoom in to my own backyard to the point where i can see my doghouses.
and you mean to tell me that they can see stars and planets and shit but they can't see a rover on the moon?
where them tapes? show them to the public.
bitch, google earth is free. and i can use it to zoom in to my own backyard to the point where i can see my doghouses.
and you mean to tell me that they can see stars and planets and shit but they can't see a rover on the moon?
where them tapes? show them to the public.
blunt, ain't nobody trying to analyze taping technology from yesteryear versus today.
the point is... even if it's for purely historical purposes, HOW THE FUCK DO YOU 'LOSE' 10,000 fucking tapes?
Read up on the actual manner in which video signals from the moon were transmitted to Earth, and how they were received, flipped, filmed and broadcast.
The 9-11 tapes were confiscated, the GITMO torture tapes were destroyed, the NASA tapes simply were forgotten and got fucked up.
Are you sure you aren't talking 10,000 hours and not 10,000 tapes? 10,000 hours is 416 days, that sounds about right as far as actual Apollo mission hours in space.
Your interpretation of that info is flawed. No one "lost" 10,000 "tapes" (as you know them).
Are you realy that stupid? There isn't a telescope powerful enough to capture a photo of that TINY SPECK of a rover.
What an idiot.
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http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/node/561
from the article:
"With about five tapes in each box, "you are talking 10,000 to 13,000 tapes in the boxes," Nafzger said in a teleconference."
i stand corrected. it was 10,000 to 13,000 tapes. my bad.
do y'all even watch/read the news?
News
NASA loses Moon landing tapes
Wednesday, 16 August 2006
Agençe Presse-France
Buzz Aldrin, as snapped by Neil Armstrong as they explored the Moon in 1969. The tapes of the landing have gone missing.![]()
Image: NASA
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WASHINGTON, 16 August 2006: NASA no longer knows the whereabouts of the original tapes of man's first landing on the Moon nearly 40 years ago, an official of the U.S. space agency said on Tuesday.
"NASA is searching for the original tapes of the Apollo 11 spacewalk on July 21, 1969," said Ed Campion, a spokesman for NASA's Goddard Space Flight Centre in Greenbelt, Maryland, a Washington suburb.
The tapes record the famous declaration of Apollo astronaut Neil Armstrong, the first man on the Moon, as he set foot on its surface: "That's one small step for [a] man; one giant leap for mankind."
The original tapes could be somewhere at the Goddard centre or in the archives network of the American space agency, Campion said.
The search for the tapes began about a year and a half ago when the Goddard Space Flight Centre's authorities realised they no longer knew where they were after retired employees asked to consult them.
Armstrong, the first human to walk on the Moon, was the commander of the first U.S. lunar mission aboard the Apollo 11 capsule, with astronauts Michael Collins and Buzz Aldrin, the latter of whom is also a member of the COSMOS Editorial Advisory Board.
Armstrong's landing on the Moon's surface on 21 July 1969, was watched live by millions of television viewers worldwide.
The original tapes of the Apollo 11 mission were recorded at three tracking stations: Goldstone in California and, in Australia, by Honeysuckle Creek Tracking Station and Parkes Observatory in New South Wales state.
They were then sent to the Goddard Space Flight Centre, which transferred them to the National Archives in late 1969. Later, NASA asked to recover the tapes and that is where the trace disappeared.
"A search is being planned, aimed at finding what happened to the Goddard-recalled Apollo 11 mission data tapes," Campion said.
The search effort involves sifting through 30-year old records and contacting retired Goddard personnel, he added.
The task is challenging. Richard Nafzger, a Goddard engineer, said there were 2,612 boxes of tapes that NASA believes are related to the space missions, including the Apollo 11 mission. The boxes were returned to the space agency between 1970 and 1975.
With about five tapes in each box, "you are talking 10,000 to 13,000 tapes in the boxes," Nafzger said in a teleconference.
The data tapes included one track for video images and other tracks of information like the astronauts' heartbeat, voice and biomedical tracking data, he said.
"We are tracking paperwork to see if it's in a storage facility outside of Goddard, possibly at Goddard," the engineer said.
i stand corrected. it was 10,000 to 13,000 tapes. my bad.
do y'all even watch/read the news?
Look you dumb whatever da fuck you are. There are telescopes
in space powerful enough to read a newspaper from over your
fucking shoulder, yet they can't see something as large as a got
damncar on the moon? Get your moronic ass outta here cousin it.![]()
Look you dumb whatever da fuck you are. There are telescopes
in space powerful enough to read a newspaper from over your
fucking shoulder, yet they can't see something as large as a got
damncar on the moon? Get your moronic ass outta here cousin it.![]()
Dog the article you are quoting is talking about the Apollo 11 data tapes. They have STRONG, CLEAR audio and video of the entire Apollo 11 mission. They have more audio and video of that mission than any other mission including COLOR still photos and video of the first steps and most of the mission. I thought you were talking about tapes of other missions. WHO GIVES A SHIT if they lost data of Neil Armstrong's heart rate at the time of touchdown or audio chatter between the lander and orbiter. Nothing was even really lost on those tapes that hasn't already been transferred to video and rebroadcast 10 million times.
Your trippin' dog, grasping for fuckin' straws. So what, they lost some masters of shit already WIDELY in circulation due to mismanagement.
where are the tapes?
i didn't write the fucking article, i just quoted it. obviously, someone wants the tapes, but they're long gone.
i'm sorry, but i just don't get with the "government" version of everything on cnn, etc.
NASA LOSES MOON LANDING TAPES is the title of the article. memorabilia or otherwise, they should be made public to be analzyed with TODAY'S technology...
or all y'all scared of the possibility that some gov't bullshit actually went down.
i bet you gov't issue type nuccas don't believe the tuskegee project either, huh?
again, fuck the moon landing.
i'm simply asking, where are all those fucking tapes?
Dude you've got to be shittin' me. Have you ever been to NASA? I'm not talking about "just the exhibits" either. There's no way on Earth they'd let those tapes "just" fall apart. I still have VHS tape in my closet from the 80's in tact. And you believe they just dry rotted? They never copied them? They never backed them up? A company that prides itself on compiling data just let them go, just like that. I live in Houston and know people that work there. Some of them have worked there for over 30 years...YEA RIGHT....THERE WERE NO TAPES DUDE.
i'm sorry, but i just don't get with the "government" version of everything on cnn, etc.
NASA LOSES MOON LANDING TAPES is the title of the article. memorabilia or otherwise, they should be made public to be analzyed with TODAY'S technology...
or all y'all scared of the possibility that some gov't bullshit actually went down.
i bet you gov't issue type nuccas don't believe the tuskegee project either, huh?![]()
Dog, they are talking about the raw data tapes. Most of the shit that would matter to the mass public (actual video and audio) is there to see by anyone who cares to see it. If they lost the masters to your favorite song, would you give a shit? Would it be a conspiracy? YOU posted the article, read it dog. It's Apollo 11. You want to see the mission, google "Apollo 11 video".
Apollo 11 Video and Images
Apollo 11 Videos
You want to comb through 10,000 more tapes. You think the hours of video and audio that you've seen are fake, what difference would it make to you if you watched all 10,000 tapes (most of which is data you wouldn't even understand).
I certainly do. But I am fuckin dyin to hear what you think happened there?
(Go head, off the dome....spit what you know....)
it doesn't take hours & hours of me watching 10K tapes, but all it would take is a few SECONDS of any one of them bitches to deem the ENTIRE project as BOGUS. period.
a request was made to review those tapes-just like a request was made to view the 9-11 tapes. both times, it was stated that the tapes were 'lost.'
i'm surprised that you cats also buy the supposed FACT that the 9-11 tapes were lost as well.
the biggest strike on american soil, and the fbi 'lost' their tapes and you gov't issued type nuccas are standing proud saying, "yessa, massa, if you say you lost them, then fuck it, you lost them. and fuck anybody who doesn't believe you lost them."
instead, let me bring you the NEW TUSKEGEE PROJECT "off the dome."
the gov't did an experiment to develop an autoimmune virus that would attack humans-similar to how autoimmune diseases attack horses, monkeys, and cats. the new virus, named HIV was distributed to poor communities in the form of 'vaccines' in the early 80's.
years later, the bayer corporation was 'busted' and caught as having distributed HIV 'unknowingly.'
INSTEAD OF IGANANT NICCAS LOOKING AT THE FACT THAT SOMEHOW THE BAYER CORPORATION managed to develop a 'virus' that can survive without a host, niccas instead challenge the validity of the argument.
now, let's rewind to what happened in the past:
as for the tuskegee project, i'm in no mood to take a test by some internet "gov't company man," but i will say this:
i respect bill clinton for being the 1st AND ONLY president in american history to apologize for what the gov't did to the poor folks that were subjected to this syphilis "EXPERIMENT."
like syphilis, AIDS is now running rampant thru those same minority communities.
I certainly do. But I am fuckin dyin to hear what you think happened there?
(Go head, off the dome....spit what you know....)
a request was made to review those tapes-just like a request was made to view the 9-11 tapes. both times, it was stated that the tapes were 'lost.'
i'm surprised that you cats also buy the supposed FACT that the 9-11 tapes were lost as well.
the biggest strike on american soil, and the fbi 'lost' their tapes and you gov't issued type nuccas are standing proud saying, "yessa, massa, if you say you lost them, then fuck it, you lost them. and fuck anybody who doesn't believe you lost them."
Bottom line is, there really ain't any reason for an Apollo cover-up because as far as propaganda goes, the shit was a failure. Americans didn't give a shit after the first mission. There are MAD Apollo astronauts who grew old and bitter because nobody cared when they touched down and nobody watched when they were up there. Nobody REALLY gives a shit about it even today because ,even though nobody has gone back to the moon, a moonshot just seems like small potatoes. So why destroy tapes or fake a mission that just didn't end up being as big of a deal as they thought it would be? And they had the budget AND the technology to do it, so why not just go ahead and do the shit? It just ain't that deep. Russia had the technology too eventually, but didn't want to spend the cash (and later didn't HAVE the cash). ANYBODY with a few billion dollars to blow can go to the moon, just ain't no reason to go. I could afford to go to fuckin' North Dakota TODAY (shit looks like the surface of the moon, is about as fun, is almost as cold and I could even fuckin' BREATH), but why the fuck would I want to waste the cash?
Yeah...you can't get a way with NONE of that without a link playboy.
And as far as Tuskegee...how'd they get that syphilis, conspiracy-man?
Bruh, the 9-11 tapes WERE NOT LOST, they were CONFISCATED and possibly destroyed. HUGE difference, one is a BLATANT coverup, the other is just some old ass data from a mission nobody really gave a shit about for DECADES other than postage stamp art, a couple of movies and tech conventions.
Where WE differ is that I don't put Apollo on the same level of importance as 9-11 or the Tuskegee experiment. 9-11 and Tuskegee had LASTING affects on all types of policy and social issues, Apollo was just a dude bouncing around collecting rocks (ask folks from that era, it played out QUICKLY after that first mission).
HIV for all the world looking like a man-made, programmed germ warfare experiment is NOT on the same level as Apollo either. I CARE if AIDS is a bioweapon, I don't give a shit if Apollo was fake or not because it doesn't make much difference one way or the other (although it WAS real).
Tuskegee, AIDS and 9-11 conspiracies (AT LEAST) have produced some sort of viable gain for somebody in government or the private sector. NASA has done nothing but BLEED funding since Apollo. It helped them short-term and KILLED them long-term.
they caught the syphilis from your moms. that's how.
why the fuck do you feel the need to test me on something that's a historical blackeye for the usa vs. black people?
EVERY BLACK PERSON SHOULD KNOW THE DETAILS of the tuskegee project. ALL OF US. period. so take your own fucking test and educate yourself.
the news just tonight had a short segment on how the fbi has 'lost' the 9-11 tapes. i'm simply repeating what i heard on the news today. one of the senators who was on the 9-11 commission requested the tapes for review, and the "official" fbi response was, "they were lost."
and again, just for purely historical purposes, how does nasa conveniently lose all those tapes-right when they were being requested by interest groups?
Exactly...
Fuckin conspiracy dunces
You equated it with the Bayer/Aids Project that you apparently pulled out of your ASS. Your own account the HIV conspiracy included GIVING Aids to the population, but (and this is known to anyone who actually read the documents that NAILED the physicians), the Tuskegee experiment didn't involve a single case of disease transmission.
But of course you knew that...
And the Bayer/AIDS link?....