Why are Black people still Christian?

I could re-write any book and edit any book. I could rewrite cat in the hat if I wanted to.

But could I re-write every copy of Harry Potter that ever existed? If every copy of the Bible was re-written & all the previous bibles were destroyed then you have a point.


But why does the oldest copy of the Bible sound exactly like the KJV? The Dead Sea scrolls….what was changed please let’s start there

Let's not.

I could not care less, nor do I accept the point of departure of your would be argument. What I know is this: the people on this side of the planet, as well as the environment, were FAR better off before that religion, and the people who practice it (or claim to)
showed up.

I should warn you, I'm in the Jehova's Witness Protection Program.

I am exempt from proselytizing activities.
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Meanwhile satanism was and still is being used to sacrifice humans, to murder, rape, torture and no one has an issue with it.



Hmmm...

Sacrifice humans: (Indians and Negros are not fully human, so can be murdered and enslaved, according to the church). Check.

Murder: Spanish Inquisition, the Crusades (I could stop there...) Check.

Rape: Catholic church is still to this very hour raping children and protecting those who rape children. Check.

Torture: (see "murder" above). Check.

Hmmm... sounds like the people who practice both religions have much more in common that not.
 
Dropping Knowledge: The Radical Barber, White Supremacy Explained
Ernie Chambers
1966

"White supremacy explained in one minute" meme full video
Ernest William Chambers (born July 10, 1937) is an American politician and civil rights activist who represented North Omaha's 11th District in the Nebraska State Legislature from 1971 to 2009 and again from 2013 to 2021. He could not run in 2020 due to term limits.

Chambers is the longest-serving state senator in Nebraska history, having represented North Omaha for 46 years. For most of his career, Chambers was the only nonwhite senator. He is the only African-American to have run for governor and the first to have run for U.S. Senate in Nebraska history. For years he was the only openly atheist member of any state legislature in the United States.

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A Time for Burning is a 1966 American documentary film that explores the attempts of the minister of Augustana Lutheran Church in Omaha, Nebraska, to persuade his all-white congregation to reach out to "Negro" Lutherans in the city's north side. The film was directed by San Francisco filmmaker William C. Jersey and was nominated for Best Documentary Feature in the 1967 Academy Awards. The film was commissioned by the Lutheran Church in America.

The film is shot in "cinéma vérité" style. It chronicles the relationship between the minister, L. William Youngdahl, and his white and black Lutheran parishioners. Youngdahl was the son of former Minnesota governor and federal judge Luther Youngdahl. The film includes a meeting between Youngdahl and a black barber, Ernie Chambers, who tells Youngdahl that his Jesus is "contaminated." At one point another Omaha Lutheran minister, Walter E. Rowoldt of Luther Memorial Lutheran Church, says, "This one lady said to me, 'pastor', she said, 'I want them to have everything I have, I want God to bless them as much as he blesses me, but', she says, 'pastor, I just can't be in the same room with them, it just bothers me'." Rowoldt and other ministers also discuss the concern that blacks moving into white neighborhoods will decrease property values.

The attempt to reach out does not succeed and Youngdahl resigns as minister of the church.

In 2005, A Time for Burning was selected for preservation in the United States National Film Registry by the Library of Congress as "culturally, historically, or aesthetically significant".

Chambers completed law school and was elected to the Nebraska Legislature in 1970. By 2005, he had become the longest-serving state senator in Nebraska history.


 
The thing is, I couldn't care less how many people are praising and lauding and following this bullshit ass book. I know it's bullshit, and nothing you say is going to change it in my mind. So go ahead, worship your little Make believe book full of fables

In this book, God told Abraham to kill his son because he thought that Abraham loved his son more than Abraham loved God. And Abraham's dumbass was going to do it before God sent a messenger telling Abraham to chill and not do it, he just wanted to see if Abraham was going to do it or not.

Fuck that book. I don't give a goddamn. If that's what God want me to do, then that's the wrong God. And fuck anybody trying to tell me to follow some shit like that where a God would do something like that
I could care less what you believe be as ignorant as you want to be. You just gonna be adjusted and corrected and it’s gonna be pointed out how intellectually inferior you are to me.

No one with knowledge of world history would take people like you serious.


The Bible is literally a history book. Has past present and future.

You don’t care…..what you mean you don’t know. And it really shows you guys aren’t the free thinkers y’all claim to be. Afraid to verify the historicity of the Bible so u claim you don’t care. Naw that’s ya mind in a box. You would never know why there is war in the Gaza right now if you think the Bible is fake. Be as ignorant as you want you just gonna have to duck and dance around questions when you around people like me.
 
Hmmm...

Sacrifice humans: (Indians and Negros are not fully human, so can be murdered and enslaved, according to the church). Check.

Murder: Spanish Inquisition, the Crusades (I could stop there...) Check.

Rape: Catholic church is still to this very hour raping children and protecting those who rape children. Check.

Torture: (see "murder" above). Check.

Hmmm... sounds like the people who practice both religions have much more in common that not.
Show me in the Bible where it says this. And show me what church said this?


What it is about atheist thst they all have in common is they can’t seperate propaganda from facts.

There have been churches that claimed that blacks and Latinos are God’s chosen people.


You have a choice you can believe either one.


You consciously choose to believe the church that claimed it said whatever you said.


Some people can’t tell truth from lie. Makes me thankful that much more that I got this truth and you are sitting being told lies that the white man told you.


Where the hell you think we came from? What do you think happens to the world when all these nations have nuclear missles that can be launched from on continent to the other?


What do you think happens? A divine intervention is needed to save humanity.

And you think hey nothing is coming. One thing for sure black people will allways be at the bottom unless a divine intervention happens.


To think that the creator is coming to save you and loves you is insane to some that is stock holm self hate.


White supremacy will either rule forever for a divine intervention comes in .
 
I don’t understand why y’all can’t refute that we are the Hebrew Israelites of the Bible that fullfiled the prophecy of Deu 28:68…if we gone talk about it then we gone talk about it.

This Bible has led every slave revolt in America.
I fully agree. Also, the Earth was flat back then. Back during those Deuteronomy 28:68 days. "And the Lord shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again."
"Thou shalt not see it no more again" when you're sailing on those Egyptian ships. That shit means the horizon. Cause the Earth is flat. Ain't no horizon.
 
I could care less what you believe be as ignorant as you want to be. You just gonna be adjusted and corrected and it’s gonna be pointed out how intellectually inferior you are to me.

No one with knowledge of world history would take people like you serious.


The Bible is literally a history book. Has past present and future.

You don’t care…..what you mean you don’t know. And it really shows you guys aren’t the free thinkers y’all claim to be. Afraid to verify the historicity of the Bible so u claim you don’t care. Naw that’s ya mind in a box. You would never know why there is war in the Gaza right now if you think the Bible is fake. Be as ignorant as you want you just gonna have to duck and dance around questions when you around people like me.
You mean so ignorant you're using a Windows 95 manual (The Bible) to run Windows 11 (today, 2000 years after that Bible was supposedly written). Good luck with that
 
Show me in the Bible where it says this. And show me what church said this?


What it is about atheist thst they all have in common is they can’t seperate propaganda from facts.

There have been churches that claimed that blacks and Latinos are God’s chosen people.


You have a choice you can believe either one.


You consciously choose to believe the church that claimed it said whatever you said.


Some people can’t tell truth from lie. Makes me thankful that much more that I got this truth and you are sitting being told lies that the white man told you.


Where the hell you think we came from? What do you think happens to the world when all these nations have nuclear missles that can be launched from on continent to the other?


What do you think happens? A divine intervention is needed to save humanity.

And you think hey nothing is coming. One thing for sure black people will allways be at the bottom unless a divine intervention happens.


To think that the creator is coming to save you and loves you is insane to some that is stock holm self hate.


White supremacy will either rule forever for a divine intervention comes in .
Why is it so important for Bible thumpers to get me to beLIEve All of the bullshit contained in their Bible that I don't believe a single sentence? Why is it necessary for them to push it on me even though I tell them that that shit is complete bullshit bat shit?

Why can't they accept my "get the fuck out of here with that bullshit"?
 
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Why is it so important for Bible thumpers to get me to beLIEve All of the bullshit contained in their Bible that I don't believe a single sentence? Why is it necessary for them to push it on me even though I tell them that that shit is complete bullshit bad shit?

Why can't they accept my "get the fuck out of here with that bullshit"?
Again no one is trying to get you to believe. You think because I pointed out your cognitive dissonance that I’m trying to get you to believe? What do I gain by you believing? My faith does not require you to join or believe. But your cognitive dissonance will be put on blast before all.


Imagine thinking “the burden of proof is on believers” yet at the same time thinkin “yeah but I don’t have the burden of examining the evidence I request”


You are already condemned. If you died today I would be happy.
 
You mean so ignorant you're using a Windows 95 manual (The Bible) to run Windows 11 (today, 2000 years after that Bible was supposedly written). Good luck with that
You can’t talk world history with anyone and claim the Bible is fake. Much less me. It’s insane how ignorant y’all are in 2025.


I have noticed 100% of atheist have no knowledge of world history. No exceptions.


The hoteps knowledge is limited to Kemet so they think they know world history when all they know is Africa.

Africa history is nowhere as rich as the Middle East. If you don’t know Middle East history you don’t know world history. And I already know you don’t
 
i've never understood why we adopted a religion that white folks would go to worship after they've just hung 3 of us off a tree. but i come to accept it cause all the shit our people been through..... that might have been that constant that got them through. so just like the pilgrims who came here because of their religious oppression turned and did exact same thing with christianity . just gives me a headache some times. anyway close to 30 years i've realized i'm way more a spiritual person as opposed to a religious one. wayyyy too many religions out here in the world and a lot of the people who represents them keeps a lot of us divided
News flash…..blacks were Christian’s before 1611.

You really think the Bible was first introduced to us by white people in the year 1611?


Was it a white man book when the Ethiopians practiced it centuries prior? Was it a white man book with the Lemba Yoruba tribes practiced Judaism? Y’all give white people too much credit.
 
Why is it so important for Bible thumpers to get me to beLIEve All of the bullshit contained in their Bible that I don't believe a single sentence? Why is it necessary for them to push it on me even though I tell them that that shit is complete bullshit bad shit?

Why can't they accept my "get the fuck out of here with that bullshit"?

THAT, my friend, is what is SO FUCKING ANNOYING!!!!!

They seem compelled (by the power of Jebus?) to find the people least amenable to a debate about this bullshit and continually press their agenda. It is as if they are trying to convince themselves as much as they are trying to convince you or me.

Notice how I was painted as an atheist? They ALWAYS do that. If you don't believe in their fairy tale, you CANNOT POSSIBLY entertain the idea of a Supreme Being.

THIS is why I maintain my assertion that it is a mental illness.
 
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You can’t talk world history with anyone and claim the Bible is fake. Much less me. It’s insane how ignorant y’all are in 2025.


I have noticed 100% of atheist have no knowledge of world history. No exceptions.


The hoteps knowledge is limited to Kemet so they think they know world history when all they know is Africa.

Africa history is nowhere as rich as the Middle East. If you don’t know Middle East history you don’t know world history. And I already know you don’t
Where is Niggadamus when you need him?

The Dogon people knew about what we call the "dog star" long before modern science caught up to them. I cannot explain this. Does it mean they are all neices and nephews of the Divine, to be worshipped as such? I think not.

Your argument is weak and increasingly shrill, your sense of history flawed, and your mind dulled by the insistence that you were created as an inferior, a knock off, if you will, mortal version of the Creator.

One might as well prepare for the day Galactus returns to claim our fucking souls.

As for "Middle East" history, the remains of ancient cities, temples, mounds, and yes, pyramids, have been discovered in what is now collectively called the Americas that predate the Dead Sea Scrolls, and even the Egyptian pyramids.

I just pointed out that you are essentially several squirrels standing on a pair of stilts in a trenchcoat, pretending to be one of the elightened elite.

Frank said it better than I ever could, though:

 
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The African Origins of Christianity​

How A 10,000-Year-Old African Story Became the Foundation of Christianity​

Anthony Browder
Apr 30, 2025















90% of what we've been taught about ancient Egyptian civilization and its relationship to world religions is fundamentally wrong.

I've discovered this through my 68 trips to Egypt (Kemet) and 15 years directing archaeological excavations.



For over four decades, I've dedicated my life to researching and uncovering truths about African history and African spiritual traditions.

As a cultural memory specialist, my mission has been to help people of African descent reconnect with their authentic historical narratives – narratives that have been intentionally hidden, distorted, or erased.

The Power of Naming: Who Controls the Narrative?

The first step in reclaiming our history is understanding how language shapes perception. Most of what we "know" about Egypt has been written by its conquerors – non-African invaders who renamed everything to fit their worldview:

  • "Egypt" is a Greek word (derived from "Aigyptos")
  • "Pyramid" is a Greek word (meaning "little flat cake")
  • "Sphinx" is a Greek word (meaning "to strangle")
  • "Hieroglyphics" is a Greek word (meaning “sacred writings”)
The original name of this ancient African civilization was "Kemet" (meaning "the Land of the Black People").

When you cannot call these places and objects by their original names, you've been miseducated, you don't know what you're dealing with, and you don't know what you're talking about.

Knowledge Is Liberation

"Knowledge will forever govern ignorance. And a people who mean to be their own governors must arm themselves with the power which knowledge gives."
These are the words of James Madison, the fourth president of the United States.



Madison was an enslaver who wrote in the U.S. Constitution that Africans were "three-fifths of a human being,".

He understood perfectly why it was illegal during slavery for Africans to read or write. The Founding fathers of American did everything within their power to limit our access to knowledge because knowledge destroys ignorance and breaks mental chains.

Our miseducation was deliberate. As Dr. Carter G. Woodson wrote in "The Miseducation of the Negro"

“When you control a man's thinking you do not have to worry about his actions. You do not have to tell him not to stand here or go yonder. He will find his 'proper place' and will stay in it. You do not need to send him to the back door. He will go without being told. In fact, if there is no back door, he will cut one for his special benefit. His education makes it necessary.”


The Ausarian Drama: The Original Virgin Birth Narrative

One of the most powerful examples of how our spiritual heritage has been appropriated lies in the “Ausarian drama" – a spiritual narrative that predates Christianity by thousands of years but contains striking parallels to the story of Jesus.

This foundational story of Kemet (ancient Egypt) is at least 6,000 years old, and my Ethiopian colleagues suggest it may be closer to 10,000 years old.

Here's the narrative:

The civilization of Kemet was founded by Ausar (whom Greeks later called "Osiris"), who:

  • United the two lands of Upper and Lower Kemet
  • Established the first government
  • Introduced agriculture and writing
  • Created the first formal theology


Ausar married Aset (whom Greeks called "Isis"), and together they ruled.

When Ausar traveled to share knowledge with other regions of Africa, he left his wife to govern – demonstrating that she was not subservient but his co-equal with the intelligence to run an entire nation.

According to the myth, Ausar was murdered by his brother Set, who dismembered his body into 14 pieces and scattered them throughout the land. Aset fled for her life but was determined to find the pieces of her husband. She located 13 of the 14 parts, and as she found each one:

  • Washed it
  • Anointed it with oils
  • Literally remembered (re-membered) her husband
Aset reassembled Ausar's body and wrapped it in bandages, creating the first mummy in recorded history.

The process took 70 days – which is why, for the next 3,000 years, mummification in Egypt lasted precisely 70 days.

The First Immaculate Conception

Here's where the story becomes even more significant: As Aset prepared to bury her husband, she grieved because she was still a virgin. She and Ausar had never consummated their marriage before his murder.

The spirit of Ausar then visited his wife and impregnated her.

The impregnation of Aset was documented in the Temple of Abydos, started by Seti I (father of Rameses II) around 1350 BCE. On its walls, you can see an image of Aset being impregnated by her deceased husband – the first documented story of what is mistakenly referred to as an "immaculate conception."



Nine months later, the virgin Aset gave birth to her son Heru (whom Greeks called "Horus"). Heru was:

  • Born of a virgin
  • Born on December 25th (the same birth date as his father)
  • Born to avenge the murder of his father
  • Tasked with reclaiming his father's throne
At the Temple of Edfu, you can see wall carvings depicting Heru as an adult battling and defeating his uncle Set, then becoming the legitimate heir to his father's throne.



Upon Heru's coronation, his father Ausar was resurrected from the dead and took his place in the ancestral realm as the judge of souls – evaluating the deceased on judgment day.



The African Roots of World Religions

These essential elements of this African myth – which predates Genesis in the Torah by at least 2,000 years – clearly served as the foundation for Judaism, Christianity, and Islam.

These religious traditions derived from African spiritual systems but had their African essence stripped away and reinterpreted:

  • First by people who identified as Hebrews
  • Then by people who identified as Christians
  • Later by people who identified as Muslims
This African story isn't just similar to the Christian narrative – it's the original source.

The concepts of virgin birth and resurrection began in Africa.

Why This Information Is Suppressed

People who control religious institutions understand that if you discover the story of Jesus Christ is a reinterpretation of an ancient African family's story, you'll question everything else you've been taught.

You'll ask:

"What other African knowledge has been hidden from me?

What other information might transform my life if I knew about it?"


People are controlled not only by what they know, but by what they don't know. That's why I've dedicated my life to acquiring and sharing this information.

It has the power to dramatically alter the thinking of millions and change the trajectory of human history.

Fear vs. Knowledge

One teaching Christians instill often in their followers is a fear of God.

But Dick Gregory accurately stated that “fear is the absence of God” and “fear and God can’t occupy the same space.” I would also add that fear is the absence of knowledge.



It's not about being scared or afraid – it's about knowing and understanding.

Knowledge cancels out fear.

Knowledge empowers you to do the things you've always had the capacity to do and that you were born to do by virtue of taking a breath on this planet.

Don't look at our current challenges as something to fear.

See them as an opportunity to step into the full glory of why you were born to be.

African Spirituality vs. Western Religion

When you understand authentic African spiritual traditions, you realize they differ fundamentally from Western religious concepts:

In African spirituality, humans were never separated from their Creator.

We are vessels through which the energy of divinity works. We have a direct connection to spirit, and society's role is to train us to use that connection for the benefit of our communities.

This is what you witness when you visit Egypt (Kemet)– monuments and temples were built 3,000-5,000 years ago by human beings who understood they were instruments through which the Creator expressed itself.

As a result of this understanding, they created heaven on earth.

The ancient Kemetic people also understood reincarnation was real. They knew they would return to earth multiple times, and the quality of their future lives was determined by how they lived their previous ones.

This is why kings named their sons after their grandfathers – they believed the spirit of their ancestors would be reborn as their children.

Taking Responsibility for Our Future

I established IKG in 1982 to facilitate the re-education of people of African descent.

My primary interest was ensuring that my colleagues, friends, and community would not remain as miseducated as I once was.

We're approaching a time of dramatic shifts in society and consciousness. The racial climate in America, over the past seven years (since the election and re-election of Obama), has been the worst I've seen in my life. Something profound is coming.

Those who don't know history, who don't understand these cycles, will be like the victims of Hurricane Katrina – stranded on rooftops with signs saying, "Help me," and no one will come to their assistance.

But those who have studied, and prepared for the next changing cycle, increase their chances of survival and increase their potential to thrive because they’ve made conscious choices based on accurate historical knowledge.

Knowledge of self is the best means by which people can know who they are, live up to their potential, and navigate what is rapidly becoming a racist and self-destructive society.

If we want to save ourselves, we must assume responsibility for saving ourselves, because history shows that no one else will do it for us.

Thank you for reading

Anthony T. Browder

Founder of IKG Cultural Resource Center

PS.

If you liked this newsletter and want to find out more about the subjects covered in this newsletter, check out my book Nile Valley Contributions to Civilization and my webinar Nile Valley Origins of Christianity

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How Africa's Original Resurrection Story Became Christianity's Holiest Celebration​

The African Astronomical System That Birthed Christianity​

Anthony Browder
Apr 23, 2025

























The Bible contains truth, but the Bible is not true.

This powerful insight—first shared with me by Baba Derrick Jackson, Chief Priest and Thought Leader of KRST Universal Temple—changed my understanding of Christianity forever. KRST is an ancient title given to someone who has attained spiritual enlightenment. It is a title not a name. KRST is an African word and is the origin of the word “Christ.”

When something contains truth but isn't true itself, we must approach it with both respect and critical analysis.

Easter presents the perfect opportunity to examine how ancient African spiritual wisdom was transformed into modern Christian practices.

The Distinction Between Truth and Fact

Universal truth transcends time and location.

If I plant an apple seed anywhere on Earth, I get apples—that's truth. But what's "true" is relative to specific circumstances and cultural contexts. What happens in Washington DC doesn't necessarily translate to South Carolina or New York.

The Bible is filled with myths that weren't meant to be taken literally.

When we interpret these myths literally rather than symbolically, we miss their deeper meaning.

To understand these deeper meanings, we must first understand how the Bible itself came to be.

How the Bible Was Constructed

Most Christians don't realize the Bible isn't a single book but a carefully curated collection:

  • Originally contained 72 books in the Catholic tradition
  • Was reduced to 66 books under King James (note the symbolism: 6 and 6)
  • Written by various authors over a period of 2,000 years
This reduction from 72 to 66 books represents a significant editorial decision that forever altered Christianity. Many powerful texts were deliberately excluded because they didn't align with the political and theological agendas of the time. Even today, most Christians have no idea that their sacred text was substantially edited and reduced.

These texts were selected through at least 18 ecumenical councils where human beings—not divine intervention—made decisions about what to include and exclude. The first six councils, occurring between 325 AD and 620 AD, established Christianity's foundation and basic structure.

The version most Americans know comes from decisions made by people with specific agendas.

These editorial decisions created a critical distinction that Dr. John Henrik Clark often emphasized between the religion itself and its institutional power.

Christianity vs. Christendom

Dr. John Henrik Clark masterfully explained the difference between:

  • Christianity: a religion centered on Jesus Christ's life, teachings, death, and resurrection
  • Christendom: the impact of Christianity on society, culture, and political structures
This distinction matters because Christianity existed before "Christianity" as we know it. John Jackson's groundbreaking book "Christianity Before Christ" demonstrates that the principles and concepts later codified into Christianity existed long before in Africa.



These African origins were deliberately obscured through a strategic political process that began in the 4th century.

Africa's Lost Connection to Early Christianity

The Christianity practiced today bears little resemblance to its African origins.

In 325 AD at the Council of Nicaea, Constantine strategically moved Christianity's power center from Africa to Asia and Europe. He deliberately held this pivotal meeting in Nicaea—a small town in Turkey—because hosting it in Rome itself would have deterred attendance.

The most powerful faith leaders of that time came from Africa.

Constantine's goal was to appropriate this spiritual power and redirect it toward Asian and European control. From that moment forward, Christianity fundamentally changed from what Africans were originally practicing.

This systematic appropriation of African spiritual concepts continued through aggressive efforts to erase their source.

The Systematic Erasure of Ancient Knowledge

The suppression of African spiritual wisdom didn't stop with Constantine.

In 350 AD, Roman Emperor Theodosius I banned the writing of hieroglyphics (Medu Netcher, the "divine words"). This deliberate act of cultural suppression targeted the very language that preserved the spiritual concepts Christianity had borrowed from.

Why would a Christian ruler ban hieroglyphics?

Because the walls of temples throughout Kemet (Egypt) contained the original spiritual concepts that Christianity had appropriated.

These inscriptions revealed that Christianity's core ideas:

  • Resurrection
  • Virgin birth
  • Divine trinity
Originated in African spiritual traditions thousands of years earlier.



In 550 AD, the Roman Emperor Justinian closed Phile (the last temple in Egypt) and the ability to read hieroglyphs and ancient sacred texts was lost for 1,300 years.



It wasn't until the discovery of the Rosetta Stone in 1799 and its decipherment by Champollion in 1822 that humans could once again read the hieroglyphic language.

Once European scholars could began deciphering these texts, they discovered something shocking:

The biblical narratives were preceded by almost identical stories written on temple walls thousands of years earlier. This revelation threatened the claimed originality and divinity of Christianity.

The response?

A concerted effort to separate Egypt from Africa—to whitewash this ancient African civilization and dismiss its profound spiritual contributions to human consciousness.

Fortunately, several courageous scholars have worked to reveal these connections through meticulous research and analysis.

Three Essential Books That Unveil Biblical Origins

For decades, I've studied texts that reveal the true origins of biblical stories.

These three transformative books should be required reading for anyone seeking to understand Christianity's African roots:

The Moses Mystery by Gary Greenberg



This archaeological investigation reveals striking contradictions between biblical narratives and historical reality.

Greenberg meticulously documents how biblical stories differ from historical facts. For example, in Genesis 13:1-3, Abraham allegedly "went up out of Egypt... into the south" on his journey to Canaan. Yet geographically, this is impossible—you cannot travel south from Egypt to reach Canaan. The biblical account contradicts basic geography, suggesting these stories were compiled by people unfamiliar with the actual locations.

Greenberg later wrote "101 Bible Myths". In this more accessible version, he brilliantly organizes the information into a myth v reality format:

  • The "Myth" column presents a verse from the Old Testament
  • The "Reality" column reveals its historical truth and origins
This format makes it easy for anyone to comprehend the discrepancies between biblical narratives and archaeological evidence without requiring specialized knowledge.

The book systematically analyzes the discrepancies and demonstrates how biblical stories were adapted from earlier Egyptian narratives.

Who Is This King of Glory? by Alvin Boyd Kuhn



This masterpiece, written in 1943, explains how the discovery of the Rosetta Stone challenged historical Christianity.

When the Rosetta Stone was unearthed in 1799, it unleashed "the voice of a long voiceless past to refute nearly every one of Christianity's historical claims with a withering negative."

The decipherment of hieroglyphics in 1822 revealed that Egyptian texts predated and directly informed biblical stories.

Kuhn demonstrates that the Christ figure was not intended to be a historical person but a symbolic representation of divine consciousness—a concept taken directly from the Nile Valley Ausarian drama.

This spiritual principle taught that any human could achieve Christ-like consciousness through inner transformation.

The Mind of Egypt by Jan Assmann



This profound work helped prepare me emotionally and intellectually for my 15-year journey excavating 25th Dynasty tombs.

Assmann reveals how the 25th Dynasty kings, particularly Shabaka and Taharka, initiated "the first documented Renaissance" by reaching back 2,000 years to revive the best of Old Kingdom architecture, art, and spiritual practices.

This period represents what Dr. John Henrik Clark called "Africa's last great walk in the sun"—the final era when African people were the most powerful humans on the planet.

What's striking is that Taharka, who controlled an empire stretching from South Sudan to Syria, is the only African king of Kemet mentioned by name in the Bible (in 2 Kings 19:19 and Isaiah 37:9).

He's remembered for rescuing Israel from its enemies—a historical fact conveniently omitted in most religious discussions.

These scholarly works illuminate what lies at the heart of our most sacred holidays: ancient astronomical observations that were transformed into religious narratives.

The Astronomical Origins of Christmas and Easter

We know precisely when Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated: April 4th, 1968.

We know exactly when Malcolm X was killed: February 21st, 1965.

So why don't we know the exact date Jesus died and was resurrected?

The answer reveals the astronomical origins of Easter.

This is not an arbitrary date but a precise astronomical event that was later mythologized into a religious narrative.

To fully grasp this celestial connection, we must understand how our ancestors viewed their relationship with the cosmos.

Cosmic Connections in Ancient African Spirituality

To understand the true meaning of Christmas and Easter, we must grasp two fundamental concepts:

  • Cosmology: The philosophical understanding of the universe
  • Cosmogony: The physical structure and properties of the universe
Ancient Africans aligned themselves with cosmic patterns and understood that the same Creator who made humans also created the cosmos.

To understand ourselves and the creator, we must first understand nature and the universe.

Christmas: The Winter Solstice

My watershed moment came in 1979 when I read John Jackson's masterpiece "Introduction to African Civilization."



Jackson broke down Christmas as an astro-theological event:

  • During the winter solstice (around December 21-22), the sun appears to stand still for approximately four days. The daylight hours neither increase nor decrease during this period.
  • Then, on the fifth day (December 25th), the length of daylight begins to increase by one minute per day.
  • Ancient astronomers interpreted this as the "birth" or "rebirth" of the sun on December 25th.
What's fascinating is how this astronomical event was mythologized:

The constellation Virgo (the Virgin) rises partially above the horizon during this time, bisected by the horizon line

Thus, it was said in astronomical terms that "the sun was born of a virgin"

These celestial observations from over 4,000 years ago—2,000 years before the birth of Christ—were later codified into religious narratives that people took literally.

Easter: The Spring Equinox

Easter follows the same astronomical pattern.

It's always:

  • The first Sunday
  • After the first full moon
  • After the spring equinox
The spring equinox (when the sun crosses the celestial equator) represents the original "Passover"—literally, the sun "passing over" the equator into the northern hemisphere.

This formula explains why Easter moves each year.

If Easter truly commemorated a historical event, we would celebrate it on a fixed date like we do other historical occasions.

Both Christmas and Easter reveal the same pattern: astronomical events in the heavens being encoded into symbolic narratives that were later taken literally, disconnected from their celestial origins.

These astronomical observations were part of a sophisticated spiritual system that placed the divine feminine at its center, something our modern religions have largely erased.

The Divine Feminine in African Cosmology

The Africa Eyes Mural in the Clark Enhanced History Project begins with Ma'at—the female representation of cosmic order.



Ma'at appears with wings, representing the first artistic depiction of what would later be called "angels" in Abrahamic traditions.



This feminine divine energy preceded the masculine focus of later religions.

The Sacred Symbolism of 42

The number 42 holds profound significance in African cosmology.

While excavating the 25th Dynasty tomb of Karakhamun on the West Bank of Luxor, Egypt, I witnessed a Spanish Egyptologist counting references to dismembered parts of Ausar's (Osiris's) body. Most people are familiar with Plutarch's version that Ausar's body was cut into 14 pieces, with Aset (Isis) finding 13 of the 14 parts.

But the original African story is far more profound.

In the authentic Kemetic tradition, Ausar's body was divided into 42 pieces—not 14.

Why 42?

  • There were 42 nomes (states) in ancient Kemet
  • There were 42 principles (laws) of Ma'at
  • The number 42 represented completeness and cosmic order
This connection reveals something remarkable: Ausar's dismemberment and resurrection symbolized the spiritual unification of the entire nation.

Each piece of his body corresponded to a region of the land, creating a powerful metaphor of national and spiritual wholeness.

Christianity adopted this resurrection story but removed its cosmic and national significance, reducing it to the story of a single man rather than a profound metaphor for collective spiritual transformation.

Nut and the Celestial Womb

In African cosmology, the goddess Nut represents the Milky Way galaxy.



Each day:

  • She swallows the sun when it sets in the west
  • The sun travels through her body during the night
  • At dawn, the sun emerges from her womb
This powerful symbolism shows that the feminine gave birth to the divine masculine—Nut gave birth to Re, the sun god.

Modern religions have inverted this relationship, diminishing the feminine principle that was central to African spirituality.

During my excavation work, I learned that Nut doesn't merely represent "the sky" in general. She specifically represents the Milky Way galaxy—our cosmic home. Time-lapse photography in the Egyptian desert reveals how the Milky Way spans from horizon to horizon, forming what our ancestors called "the river in the sky."



We've become fixated on the male principle of creation while ignoring the feminine which gave birth to it.

Imagine how different our world would be if we understood the significance of the feminine expression of creation.

This profound feminine wisdom reflects a creation narrative far older than the Genesis story most people know today.

The Creation Story You Never Heard

The ancient African creation narrative states:

"I am the being who came into being as Khepre, who brought into being, being itself. When I came into being, all other beings came into being."
This creation account preceded the Genesis story by thousands of years.

Yet most people never learn this original narrative, despite its profound spiritual wisdom.

At the heart of this ancient wisdom was something rarely emphasized in modern religious practice: profound gratitude for existence itself.

African Spirituality Was Built on Gratitude

I've spent a lifetime studying ancient African spiritual systems and their modern applications.

What strikes me most is that ancient Kemetic (Egyptian) culture was fundamentally built on gratitude, not fear. The monuments weren't constructed to appease vengeful gods but to express profound appreciation for existence itself.

When you examine the magnificent temples along the Nile, you're witnessing a people saying: "Thank you, Divine Creator, for all you have done for our existence."

This spirit of gratitude offers us a pathway back to our spiritual roots—a way to reclaim the wisdom that has been hidden from us for too long.

Reconnecting With Our Spiritual Heritage

I invite you to look beyond the surface narratives.

The resurrection story contains powerful symbolic truth about spiritual rebirth and renewal. But we must recognize that these concepts originated in Africa thousands of years before Christianity existed.

Reclaiming this knowledge isn't about rejecting spirituality—it's about deepening it. When we understand the astronomical, symbolic, and African origins of Easter, we connect with a more profound understanding of our place in the cosmos.

Freedom isn't free. We must become masters of our own destiny rather than servants to someone else's interpretation of truth.

Know yourself. Love yourself. Free your mind.

Then free the minds of those you love.
 
Where is Niggadamus when you need him?

The Dogon people knew about what we call the "dog star" long before modern science caught up to them. I cannot explain this. Does it mean they are all neices and nephews of the Divine, to be worshipped as such? I think not.

Your argument is weak and increasingly shrill, your sense of history flawed, and your mind dulled by the insistence that you were created as an inferior, a knock off, if you will, mortal version of the Creator.

One might as well prepare for the day Galactus returns to claim our fucking souls.

As for "Middle East" history, the remains of ancient cities, temples, mounds, and yes, pyramids, have been discovered in what is now collectively called the Americas that predate the Dead Sea Scrolls, and even the Egyptian pyramids.

I just pointed out that you are essentially several squirrels standing on a pair of stilts in a trenchcoat, pretending to be one of the elightened elite.

Frank said it better than I ever could, though:


Man again all important world history is in this Bible. There is too much history in the world for us to know it all so we have to prioritize the most relevant ones. They got you studying hotepology, Christopher Columbus, and ancient Han Dynasty, Genghis Khan, …..meanwhile they keep you away from the history pertaining to the Middle East, and while your ancestors ruled in Europe they tell you “we don’t know what happens in the dark ages” and y’all buy it.

Yet wanna keep you studying the Dinka tribe and the Dogon. All irrelevant. How does Dogon knowing about a Dog Star help you to understand the world you live in today? Did their sacred knowledge prevent European colonialism? The French still colonized Mali and didn’t a dam what star you knew about .

When you study history the point is for it to help you to understand what the hell is going on today.

Wanna know about the stock market? Reading history on the Mursi tribe in Ethiopia isn’t gonna help you understand the stock market/bubble is


However know I’m about Tulip mania will.



You wanna know why we heading into ww3….yeah you can’t chime in that discussion.
 

How Africa's Original Resurrection Story Became Christianity's Holiest Celebration​

The African Astronomical System That Birthed Christianity​

Anthony Browder
Apr 23, 2025

























The Bible contains truth, but the Bible is not true.

This powerful insight—first shared with me by Baba Derrick Jackson, Chief Priest and Thought Leader of KRST Universal Temple—changed my understanding of Christianity forever. KRST is an ancient title given to someone who has attained spiritual enlightenment. It is a title not a name. KRST is an African word and is the origin of the word “Christ.”

When something contains truth but isn't true itself, we must approach it with both respect and critical analysis.

Easter presents the perfect opportunity to examine how ancient African spiritual wisdom was transformed into modern Christian practices.

The Distinction Between Truth and Fact

Universal truth transcends time and location.

If I plant an apple seed anywhere on Earth, I get apples—that's truth. But what's "true" is relative to specific circumstances and cultural contexts. What happens in Washington DC doesn't necessarily translate to South Carolina or New York.

The Bible is filled with myths that weren't meant to be taken literally.

When we interpret these myths literally rather than symbolically, we miss their deeper meaning.

To understand these deeper meanings, we must first understand how the Bible itself came to be.

How the Bible Was Constructed

Most Christians don't realize the Bible isn't a single book but a carefully curated collection:

  • Originally contained 72 books in the Catholic tradition
  • Was reduced to 66 books under King James (note the symbolism: 6 and 6)
  • Written by various authors over a period of 2,000 years
This reduction from 72 to 66 books represents a significant editorial decision that forever altered Christianity. Many powerful texts were deliberately excluded because they didn't align with the political and theological agendas of the time. Even today, most Christians have no idea that their sacred text was substantially edited and reduced.

These texts were selected through at least 18 ecumenical councils where human beings—not divine intervention—made decisions about what to include and exclude. The first six councils, occurring between 325 AD and 620 AD, established Christianity's foundation and basic structure.

The version most Americans know comes from decisions made by people with specific agendas.

These editorial decisions created a critical distinction that Dr. John Henrik Clark often emphasized between the religion itself and its institutional power.

Christianity vs. Christendom

Dr. John Henrik Clark masterfully explained the difference between:

  • Christianity: a religion centered on Jesus Christ's life, teachings, death, and resurrection
  • Christendom: the impact of Christianity on society, culture, and political structures
This distinction matters because Christianity existed before "Christianity" as we know it. John Jackson's groundbreaking book "Christianity Before Christ" demonstrates that the principles and concepts later codified into Christianity existed long before in Africa.



These African origins were deliberately obscured through a strategic political process that began in the 4th century.

Africa's Lost Connection to Early Christianity

The Christianity practiced today bears little resemblance to its African origins.

In 325 AD at the Council of Nicaea, Constantine strategically moved Christianity's power center from Africa to Asia and Europe. He deliberately held this pivotal meeting in Nicaea—a small town in Turkey—because hosting it in Rome itself would have deterred attendance.

The most powerful faith leaders of that time came from Africa.

Constantine's goal was to appropriate this spiritual power and redirect it toward Asian and European control. From that moment forward, Christianity fundamentally changed from what Africans were originally practicing.

This systematic appropriation of African spiritual concepts continued through aggressive efforts to erase their source.

The Systematic Erasure of Ancient Knowledge

The suppression of African spiritual wisdom didn't stop with Constantine.

In 350 AD, Roman Emperor Theodosius I banned the writing of hieroglyphics (Medu Netcher, the "divine words"). This deliberate act of cultural suppression targeted the very language that preserved the spiritual concepts Christianity had borrowed from.

Why would a Christian ruler ban hieroglyphics?

Because the walls of temples throughout Kemet (Egypt) contained the original spiritual concepts that Christianity had appropriated.

These inscriptions revealed that Christianity's core ideas:

  • Resurrection
  • Virgin birth
  • Divine trinity
Originated in African spiritual traditions thousands of years earlier.



In 550 AD, the Roman Emperor Justinian closed Phile (the last temple in Egypt) and the ability to read hieroglyphs and ancient sacred texts was lost for 1,300 years.



It wasn't until the discovery of the Rosetta Stone in 1799 and its decipherment by Champollion in 1822 that humans could once again read the hieroglyphic language.

Once European scholars could began deciphering these texts, they discovered something shocking:

The biblical narratives were preceded by almost identical stories written on temple walls thousands of years earlier. This revelation threatened the claimed originality and divinity of Christianity.

The response?

A concerted effort to separate Egypt from Africa—to whitewash this ancient African civilization and dismiss its profound spiritual contributions to human consciousness.

Fortunately, several courageous scholars have worked to reveal these connections through meticulous research and analysis.

Three Essential Books That Unveil Biblical Origins

For decades, I've studied texts that reveal the true origins of biblical stories.

These three transformative books should be required reading for anyone seeking to understand Christianity's African roots:

The Moses Mystery by Gary Greenberg



This archaeological investigation reveals striking contradictions between biblical narratives and historical reality.

Greenberg meticulously documents how biblical stories differ from historical facts. For example, in Genesis 13:1-3, Abraham allegedly "went up out of Egypt... into the south" on his journey to Canaan. Yet geographically, this is impossible—you cannot travel south from Egypt to reach Canaan. The biblical account contradicts basic geography, suggesting these stories were compiled by people unfamiliar with the actual locations.

Greenberg later wrote "101 Bible Myths". In this more accessible version, he brilliantly organizes the information into a myth v reality format:

  • The "Myth" column presents a verse from the Old Testament
  • The "Reality" column reveals its historical truth and origins
This format makes it easy for anyone to comprehend the discrepancies between biblical narratives and archaeological evidence without requiring specialized knowledge.

The book systematically analyzes the discrepancies and demonstrates how biblical stories were adapted from earlier Egyptian narratives.

Who Is This King of Glory? by Alvin Boyd Kuhn



This masterpiece, written in 1943, explains how the discovery of the Rosetta Stone challenged historical Christianity.

When the Rosetta Stone was unearthed in 1799, it unleashed "the voice of a long voiceless past to refute nearly every one of Christianity's historical claims with a withering negative."

The decipherment of hieroglyphics in 1822 revealed that Egyptian texts predated and directly informed biblical stories.

Kuhn demonstrates that the Christ figure was not intended to be a historical person but a symbolic representation of divine consciousness—a concept taken directly from the Nile Valley Ausarian drama.

This spiritual principle taught that any human could achieve Christ-like consciousness through inner transformation.

The Mind of Egypt by Jan Assmann



This profound work helped prepare me emotionally and intellectually for my 15-year journey excavating 25th Dynasty tombs.

Assmann reveals how the 25th Dynasty kings, particularly Shabaka and Taharka, initiated "the first documented Renaissance" by reaching back 2,000 years to revive the best of Old Kingdom architecture, art, and spiritual practices.

This period represents what Dr. John Henrik Clark called "Africa's last great walk in the sun"—the final era when African people were the most powerful humans on the planet.

What's striking is that Taharka, who controlled an empire stretching from South Sudan to Syria, is the only African king of Kemet mentioned by name in the Bible (in 2 Kings 19:19 and Isaiah 37:9).

He's remembered for rescuing Israel from its enemies—a historical fact conveniently omitted in most religious discussions.

These scholarly works illuminate what lies at the heart of our most sacred holidays: ancient astronomical observations that were transformed into religious narratives.

The Astronomical Origins of Christmas and Easter

We know precisely when Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated: April 4th, 1968.

We know exactly when Malcolm X was killed: February 21st, 1965.

So why don't we know the exact date Jesus died and was resurrected?

The answer reveals the astronomical origins of Easter.

This is not an arbitrary date but a precise astronomical event that was later mythologized into a religious narrative.

To fully grasp this celestial connection, we must understand how our ancestors viewed their relationship with the cosmos.

Cosmic Connections in Ancient African Spirituality

To understand the true meaning of Christmas and Easter, we must grasp two fundamental concepts:

  • Cosmology: The philosophical understanding of the universe
  • Cosmogony: The physical structure and properties of the universe
Ancient Africans aligned themselves with cosmic patterns and understood that the same Creator who made humans also created the cosmos.

To understand ourselves and the creator, we must first understand nature and the universe.

Christmas: The Winter Solstice

My watershed moment came in 1979 when I read John Jackson's masterpiece "Introduction to African Civilization."



Jackson broke down Christmas as an astro-theological event:

  • During the winter solstice (around December 21-22), the sun appears to stand still for approximately four days. The daylight hours neither increase nor decrease during this period.
  • Then, on the fifth day (December 25th), the length of daylight begins to increase by one minute per day.
  • Ancient astronomers interpreted this as the "birth" or "rebirth" of the sun on December 25th.
What's fascinating is how this astronomical event was mythologized:

The constellation Virgo (the Virgin) rises partially above the horizon during this time, bisected by the horizon line

Thus, it was said in astronomical terms that "the sun was born of a virgin"

These celestial observations from over 4,000 years ago—2,000 years before the birth of Christ—were later codified into religious narratives that people took literally.

Easter: The Spring Equinox

Easter follows the same astronomical pattern.

It's always:

  • The first Sunday
  • After the first full moon
  • After the spring equinox
The spring equinox (when the sun crosses the celestial equator) represents the original "Passover"—literally, the sun "passing over" the equator into the northern hemisphere.

This formula explains why Easter moves each year.

If Easter truly commemorated a historical event, we would celebrate it on a fixed date like we do other historical occasions.

Both Christmas and Easter reveal the same pattern: astronomical events in the heavens being encoded into symbolic narratives that were later taken literally, disconnected from their celestial origins.

These astronomical observations were part of a sophisticated spiritual system that placed the divine feminine at its center, something our modern religions have largely erased.

The Divine Feminine in African Cosmology

The Africa Eyes Mural in the Clark Enhanced History Project begins with Ma'at—the female representation of cosmic order.



Ma'at appears with wings, representing the first artistic depiction of what would later be called "angels" in Abrahamic traditions.



This feminine divine energy preceded the masculine focus of later religions.

The Sacred Symbolism of 42

The number 42 holds profound significance in African cosmology.

While excavating the 25th Dynasty tomb of Karakhamun on the West Bank of Luxor, Egypt, I witnessed a Spanish Egyptologist counting references to dismembered parts of Ausar's (Osiris's) body. Most people are familiar with Plutarch's version that Ausar's body was cut into 14 pieces, with Aset (Isis) finding 13 of the 14 parts.

But the original African story is far more profound.

In the authentic Kemetic tradition, Ausar's body was divided into 42 pieces—not 14.

Why 42?

  • There were 42 nomes (states) in ancient Kemet
  • There were 42 principles (laws) of Ma'at
  • The number 42 represented completeness and cosmic order
This connection reveals something remarkable: Ausar's dismemberment and resurrection symbolized the spiritual unification of the entire nation.

Each piece of his body corresponded to a region of the land, creating a powerful metaphor of national and spiritual wholeness.

Christianity adopted this resurrection story but removed its cosmic and national significance, reducing it to the story of a single man rather than a profound metaphor for collective spiritual transformation.

Nut and the Celestial Womb

In African cosmology, the goddess Nut represents the Milky Way galaxy.



Each day:

  • She swallows the sun when it sets in the west
  • The sun travels through her body during the night
  • At dawn, the sun emerges from her womb
This powerful symbolism shows that the feminine gave birth to the divine masculine—Nut gave birth to Re, the sun god.

Modern religions have inverted this relationship, diminishing the feminine principle that was central to African spirituality.

During my excavation work, I learned that Nut doesn't merely represent "the sky" in general. She specifically represents the Milky Way galaxy—our cosmic home. Time-lapse photography in the Egyptian desert reveals how the Milky Way spans from horizon to horizon, forming what our ancestors called "the river in the sky."



We've become fixated on the male principle of creation while ignoring the feminine which gave birth to it.

Imagine how different our world would be if we understood the significance of the feminine expression of creation.

This profound feminine wisdom reflects a creation narrative far older than the Genesis story most people know today.

The Creation Story You Never Heard

The ancient African creation narrative states:


This creation account preceded the Genesis story by thousands of years.

Yet most people never learn this original narrative, despite its profound spiritual wisdom.

At the heart of this ancient wisdom was something rarely emphasized in modern religious practice: profound gratitude for existence itself.

African Spirituality Was Built on Gratitude

I've spent a lifetime studying ancient African spiritual systems and their modern applications.

What strikes me most is that ancient Kemetic (Egyptian) culture was fundamentally built on gratitude, not fear. The monuments weren't constructed to appease vengeful gods but to express profound appreciation for existence itself.

When you examine the magnificent temples along the Nile, you're witnessing a people saying: "Thank you, Divine Creator, for all you have done for our existence."

This spirit of gratitude offers us a pathway back to our spiritual roots—a way to reclaim the wisdom that has been hidden from us for too long.

Reconnecting With Our Spiritual Heritage

I invite you to look beyond the surface narratives.

The resurrection story contains powerful symbolic truth about spiritual rebirth and renewal. But we must recognize that these concepts originated in Africa thousands of years before Christianity existed.

Reclaiming this knowledge isn't about rejecting spirituality—it's about deepening it. When we understand the astronomical, symbolic, and African origins of Easter, we connect with a more profound understanding of our place in the cosmos.

Freedom isn't free. We must become masters of our own destiny rather than servants to someone else's interpretation of truth.

Know yourself. Love yourself. Free your mind.

Then free the minds of those you love.
There is no retelling of anything from Egypt. That’s why y’all never list primary sources
 
I told y'all about the church in Atlanta, where the congregation pooled their money to buy the preacher a Caddy for his birthday. After they gave it to him, he had his wife stand up and tell them that he was thankful, but he had his heart set on a Jag. At the end of the service, there was a long of people waiting to apologize to him.
What does that have to do with Christianity?

:confused: You just described idolatry.
 
Africa....

Alkebulan



...There is a Middle East.
1
The term "Middle East" was first coined by the British in the late 19th century to define a region between the Near East and the Far East, with the American naval officer Alfred Thayer Mahan popularizing it in a 1902 article to describe the area between Arabia and India. The name is Eurocentric, referring to the region's location relative to Western Europe, and was used to describe the lands around the Persian Gulf and surrounding areas.

2
Origin of the Term
  • British Imperialism: The term "Middle East" originated in the late 19th century within the context of British imperial interests.
  • Geopolitical Framework: It was created by British imperialists to denote a geopolitical region located between the "Near East" (the eastern Mediterranean and Balkans) and the "Far East" (East Asian countries).
  • Alfred Thayer Mahan: The term gained wider recognition after American naval strategist Alfred Thayer Mahan used it in a 1902 article to define the area surrounding the Persian Gulf as the "Middle East," highlighting its strategic importance between India and the Mediterranean.
3
Eurocentric Perspective
  • The terms "Near East," "Middle East," and "Far East" were all developed from the perspective of Western Europe.
  • From this European vantage point, the "Near East" was closest, the "Middle East" was in the middle, and the "Far East" was the furthest
 
Again no one is trying to get you to believe. You think because I pointed out your cognitive dissonance that I’m trying to get you to believe? What do I gain by you believing? My faith does not require you to join or believe. But your cognitive dissonance will be put on blast before all.


Imagine thinking “the burden of proof is on believers” yet at the same time thinkin “yeah but I don’t have the burden of examining the evidence I request”


You are already condemned. If you died today I would be happy.
Damn, man.
That's some really foul shit to wish on someone you just so happen to disagree with... :smh:
 
I could care less what you believe be as ignorant as you want to be. You just gonna be adjusted and corrected and it’s gonna be pointed out how intellectually inferior you are to me.

No one with knowledge of world history would take people like you serious.


The Bible is literally a history book. Has past present and future.

You don’t care…..what you mean you don’t know. And it really shows you guys aren’t the free thinkers y’all claim to be. Afraid to verify the historicity of the Bible so u claim you don’t care. Naw that’s ya mind in a box. You would never know why there is war in the Gaza right now if you think the Bible is fake. Be as ignorant as you want you just gonna have to duck and dance around questions when you around people like me.
Shit contradicts itself historically IN literal Genesis. The switches from poly to mono theism from the old to the new testament. You can't be serious. Have you ever even read the shit?
 
im not religious....at all

that said: i dont see the problem that some have with religion...at the base of all of them is simply a guide to living a good life...

the problem is the people that interpret them that causes all the drama...killing etc
Not seeing the problem is a problem. These people arent quietly religious and they are making critical decisions especially from positions of power and authority based on rules that openly and cheerfully defy the logical universe. They are a danger to organized and productive society.

I invite any of these miscreants to call in and debate Justin on Deconstruction Zone and we'll all sit around and eat popcorn while they get cooked alive on the live stream.

 
I grew up in the Pentecostal church from the time I was born. I think it was around 15 or so when it started to not make any sense to me when I started reading other things outside of the Bible. I went as far as getting a work permit just so I could get a job and not have to go sit in there and watch all those folks faking for 2+ hours every Friday and twice on Sundays. Once I graduated, I haven't been back to a church since. That was over 20 years ago and I have no desire to ever go back. Some of the most judgmental, hateful people I've ever been around.

They called me crazy and tried to make me seem like I was the weird one for not going along with it. But, it's not crazy to believe that one man managed to collect 2 of every animal on the entire planet, got them all on a boat without them slaughtering each other, and saved them....while everyone that wasn't on the boat died...in the entire world. My mind is just too logical to let me believe stuff like that so it just doesn't work for me. The only reason I went to church voluntarily was because I was fuckin like 4 of those girls that used to get up there and sing in the choir and fall all out on the floor like they had the holy spirit.

But get to that parking lot after church and they were down for whatever.
 
I grew up in the Pentecostal church from the time I was born. I think it was around 15 or so when it started to not make any sense to me when I started reading other things outside of the Bible. I went as far as getting a work permit just so I could get a job and not have to go sit in there and watch all those folks faking for 2+ hours every Friday and twice on Sundays. Once I graduated, I haven't been back to a church since. That was over 20 years ago and I have no desire to ever go back. Some of the most judgmental, hateful people I've ever been around.

They called me crazy and tried to make me seem like I was the weird one for not going along with it. But, it's not crazy to believe that one man managed to collect 2 of every animal on the entire planet, got them all on a boat without them slaughtering each other, and saved them....while everyone that wasn't on the boat died...in the entire world. My mind is just too logical to let me believe stuff like that so it just doesn't work for me. The only reason I went to church voluntarily was because I was fuckin like 4 of those girls that used to get up there and sing in the choir and fall all out on the floor like they had the holy spirit.

But get to that parking lot after church and they were down for whatever.
watch that video above. Dude smokes these assholes. every. single. day. Think his record is like 1,000,000:0
 
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watch that video above. Dude smokes these assholes ever. single. day. Think his record is like 1,000,000:0
Trust me, I don't need to. I've been that same guy myself for about 25 years now. It got to the point where I just avoid those discussions because they get in their feelings when you know everything they know plus what they don't know. Even my parents refuse to even have those discussions with me anymore because when they know you have em backed into a corner with facts, they get mad.

I got a homegirl that I've known since I was in middle school. Shawty lives her life like a true degenerate Monday through Saturday night. Fuckin niggas for money, getting drunk, getting high....finessing niggas... but will be the first one to tell me I need to be at church on Sunday. Wanna do shit like quote scriptures to me lol. After I started getting annoyed by it, I just asked her... If Christianity isn't good enough for YOU to actually abide by the same book you love to quote, why would it be for me???????

She hasn't mentioned church or religion to me a single time ever since. Another thing that always throws me is, they will be quick to point out how the trump supporting Christians aren't "real" Christians because of how hateful they are. But, they direct that exact same hate, sometimes worse, towards gay people. I have aunts that haven't talked in 20+ years because one of em is gay. They don't even acknowledge she exists. They'll also be the first people to tell me that I should mend a sour relationship with one of my siblings because life is too short.

Most of em don't fuck with me either because they know I'm that one that will just tell shit like it is and not feel guilty about it.
 
Trust me, I don't need to. I've been that same guy myself for about 25 years now. It got to the point where I just avoid those discussions because they get in their feelings when you know everything they know plus what they don't know. Even my parents refuse to even have those discussions with me anymore because when they know you have em backed into a corner with facts, they get mad.

I got a homegirl that I've known since I was in middle school. Shawty lives her life like a true degenerate Monday through Saturday night. Fuckin niggas for money, getting drunk, getting high....finessing niggas... but will be the first one to tell me I need to be at church on Sunday. Wanna do shit like quote scriptures to me lol. After I started getting annoyed by it, I just asked her... If Christianity isn't good enough for YOU to actually abide by the same book you love to quote, why would it be for me???????

She hasn't mentioned church or religion to me a single time ever since. Another thing that always throws me is, they will be quick to point out how the trump supporting Christians aren't "real" Christians because of how hateful they are. But, they direct that exact same hate, sometimes worse, towards gay people. I have aunts that haven't talked in 20+ years because one of em is gay. They don't even acknowledge she exists. They'll also be the first people to tell me that I should mend a sour relationship with one of my siblings because life is too short.

Most of em don't fuck with me either because they know I'm that one that will just tell shit like it is and not feel guilty about it.
Fa sho. It is quite entertaining though. I play this shit for laughs. Real comedy watching their brains melt coming on disparaging a previous caller for not making the right argument and not knowing what to say all the while thinking they are going to be that ONE yet it always goes the same way.:lol:
 
Shit contradicts itself historically IN literal Genesis. The switches from poly to mono theism from the old to the new testament. You can't be serious. Have you ever even read the shit?
Yes go ahead present your case in point. There was no switch. They still worshipped many gods after genesis even into book of acts so what is your point? The point is to worship the true god not the oldest
 
Yes go ahead present your case in point. There was no switch. They still worshipped many gods after genesis even into book of acts so what is your point? The point is to worship the true god not the oldest
are you saying there are older gods than the Xtian Jew Islam god?
 
Yes go ahead present your case in point. There was no switch. They still worshipped many gods after genesis even into book of acts so what is your point? The point is to worship the true god not the oldest
Nope, not at all what I meant. Judism/Christianity is polytheism. What do you think the Trinity is exactly? Call in. Get roasted by an expert who actually studied that dog shit religion. Fair warning, he will dog walk you.
Next show starts at 6pm est tonight.



 
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