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Shedeur Sanders Is Being Blackballed
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Mary Kay Cabot and Tony Grossi are the definitions of a hater....
He gets it now
There is a significant difference between how Shedeur Sanders has been portrayed and how he should be evaluated. When you step back and compare what he did in college to others, such as Jayden Daniels, who had a great year at LSU with a loaded roster and national support, the double standard becomes hard to ignore.
Sanders didn’t have that kind of setup. He played behind the worst offensive line in the Power Five, had no run game, and carried a first-year rebuild with composure, accuracy, and leadership. Yet he was still portrayed as not quite ready, as if the adversity he overcame didn’t strengthen his case but somehow weakened it.
And now in Cleveland, we are watching the same pattern repeat. He is showing leadership, precision, and command in camp, yet the conversation is not about what he is doing. It is about his draft slot. He is a fifth-round pick, so the verdict is already in. He is labeled not NFL-ready, just like many others before him who went on to prove the league wrong. Because let’s be honest, the NFL has missed more times than it has hit when it comes to evaluating quarterbacks. And part of that failure is baked into a system where the same recycled voices from the same coaching trees push the same narratives.
Look at the history. Kurt Warner, Joe Montana, Tony Romo, Rich Gannon, Drew Brees, and Aaron Rodgers. All underestimated. All doubted. All misread by the very system that still dominates the conversation today. What happened to the people who got it wrong? Nothing. They stayed around. They got promoted. They became media analysts, consultants, and front office executives, continuing to shape evaluations with the same flawed logic. Being wrong never cost them. It only cost the players who did not fit the mold.
Independent thought is almost nonexistent. Most of the people making these evaluations are speaking from the same playbook, shaped by legacy bias and a rigid idea of what a quarterback should look like and how they should develop. So when someone like Shedeur does not fit the mold, the instinct is to discredit them instead of reevaluating.
He is being asked to prove himself under conditions designed to support a narrative, rather than an honest analysis of his performance. And that is not player development. That is institutional inertia. The media and NFL alike are more committed to protecting their pipeline of conventional wisdom than they are to getting it right.
Sanders does not need hype. He needs a fair analysis. Until then, it is not his readiness that should be questioned. It is the system’s.
How do you draft a guy and not give him first team reps...
How is he suppose to know what he needs to improve on?
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How do you draft a guy and not give him first team reps...
How is he suppose to know what he needs to improve on?
Shedeur talked about this yesterday. He seems to have really taken to Flacco and hes said that he needs to get through his reads faster. Honestly, I hope Watson comes back so Shedeur will get cut and go to a better organization. Even if hes not starting, id rather him be in a better situation where someone really wants him and is not just going through the motions. Every indication (and in the limited clips that I've seen) Shedeur is better than Gabriel. When doing the joint practices, they will really be able to tell separate themselves.
When it comes to drafting quarterbacks, NFL teams don’t have a scouting problem. They have a thinking problem in my opinion. They’re not evaluating quarterbacks; they’re confirming biases. Instead of adapting to the modern game, they’re still searching for the next version of a quarterback archetype that doesn’t even fit today’s league.
They want tall. They want a cannon arm. They want a “pro-style system” background, even though most college systems are hybridized now and almost none reflect NFL offenses. They want clean footwork, good combined numbers, and a smile that looks good on draft night.
And they call this "evaluation."
That’s how you pass on a Lamar Jackson. That’s how you let a Jalen Hurts fall to the second round. That’s how you overdraft a Zach Wilson or convince yourself that a 24-year-old with 13 college starts and a textbook release is somehow “NFL-ready.”
Here’s what they refuse to grasp: College success is not about running the “right system.” It’s about winning in chaos, elevating teammates, managing variables, and responding to pressure, not in a clean pocket, but in real-time.
So if you’re drafting a rookie quarterback, stop looking for the “most NFL-like system” or whether he played under center 15% of the time. Start asking:
A Real Rookie QB Evaluation Model:
Chaos Translation Quotient: How does this QB perform when things break down? Can he create solutions when protection fails or receivers improvise?
Team Elevation Score: Did he raise the level of average players? Did his line play better with him at the helm? Did he change the expectations of the program?
Adaptability Grade: Did he work with multiple coordinators? Different schemes? Varying tempos? And how did his performance change, or didn’t?
Defensive Manipulation IQ: Can he identify coverage rotations pre- and post-snap? Does he move defenders with his eyes or body language, even if his arm isn’t elite?
Situational Mastery: Look at 3rd and 7+. Look at the red zone. Look at trailing in the 4th quarter. Who is this player when the playbook shrinks and the pressure spikes?
Processing Real-Time Tape: Don’t ask what his reads should have been. Ask what he saw. And if he saw it late, did he recover? Did he learn?
Leadership Under Fire: Not “did he give a speech,” but did teammates trust him when the game was tight? Did he communicate with the OC, fix protections, or redirect a teammate without panic?
Growth Trajectory: Did he get better every year? Every month? Every game? Or did he plateau and ride the hype machine?
What front offices call “traits” are often just camouflage for lazy evaluation. A quarterback’s ability to adapt, grow, and elevate is a trait. Everything else is window dressing.
Drafting a rookie quarterback shouldn’t be about finding the next Brady, Allen, or Mahomes. It should be about finding your guy, the one who makes sense for your team, your locker room, your city, and your timeline.
The truth is, half the league doesn’t want a quarterback. They want a savior. They want a myth. And because of that, they keep chasing ghosts instead of building around reality.
Sheduer has been the better quarterback out of the four for the most part yet folks still have questions when it comes to Shedeur....
Not even a Browns fan but imma cop the Sanders jersey.
Isn't crazy how everybody in the media dick riding him now?
There is a significant difference between how Shedeur Sanders has been portrayed and how he should be evaluated. When you step back and compare what he did in college to others, such as Jayden Daniels, who had a great year at LSU with a loaded roster and national support, the double standard becomes hard to ignore.
Sanders didn’t have that kind of setup. He played behind the worst offensive line in the Power Five, had no run game, and carried a first-year rebuild with composure, accuracy, and leadership. Yet he was still portrayed as not quite ready, as if the adversity he overcame didn’t strengthen his case but somehow weakened it.
And now in Cleveland, we are watching the same pattern repeat. He is showing leadership, precision, and command in camp, yet the conversation is not about what he is doing. It is about his draft slot. He is a fifth-round pick, so the verdict is already in. He is labeled not NFL-ready, just like many others before him who went on to prove the league wrong. Because let’s be honest, the NFL has missed more times than it has hit when it comes to evaluating quarterbacks. And part of that failure is baked into a system where the same recycled voices from the same coaching trees push the same narratives.
Look at the history. Kurt Warner, Joe Montana, Tony Romo, Rich Gannon, Drew Brees, and Aaron Rodgers. All underestimated. All doubted. All misread by the very system that still dominates the conversation today. What happened to the people who got it wrong? Nothing. They stayed around. They got promoted. They became media analysts, consultants, and front office executives, continuing to shape evaluations with the same flawed logic. Being wrong never cost them. It only cost the players who did not fit the mold.
Independent thought is almost nonexistent. Most of the people making these evaluations are speaking from the same playbook, shaped by legacy bias and a rigid idea of what a quarterback should look like and how they should develop. So when someone like Shedeur does not fit the mold, the instinct is to discredit them instead of reevaluating.
He is being asked to prove himself under conditions designed to support a narrative, rather than an honest analysis of his performance. And that is not player development. That is institutional inertia. The media and NFL alike are more committed to protecting their pipeline of conventional wisdom than they are to getting it right.
Sanders does not need hype. He needs a fair analysis. Until then, it is not his readiness that should be questioned. It is the system’s.
How do you draft a guy and not give him first team reps...
How is he suppose to know what he needs to improve on?
Mangini said it's because Kevin Stefanski doesn't want the media and fans to go crazy if Shedeur looks good against the ones. It's already a lot of hype, this is according to Mangini.
It's going to be tough for Shedeur, not because he's not good enough but it will be because of the reps he gets. If he shines in preseason though, they may not have no choice but to start him.
The NFL continues to prove it ain't about the talent - it's about their bullshit core white supremacist feelings. There's an entire pre-draft process where GMs, executives, and scouts are asked anonymously where they foresee players getting drafted - the rounds etc. They all had Shedeur rounds 1 and 2 based on his talent. Played themselves. Again. And a lot of black men that knew better didn't do better bc of those fragile white feelings. Skipped a meeting or declined a meeting - SO THE FUCK WHAT? The Manning family did that and more. Miss me with the Eli college comparisons. He had plenty of flaws. Im not speculating on talent. The NFL Scouting system - process is bullshit. Scouts get complacent - sec future HOF - never a thought of as drafted too high in comparison to some mid major talent that is better.
I since hope that Shedeur gets his opportunity to shine. There are secret haters everywhere and he'll need to be at his best on every possession. Coordinator that might call some bullshit where Shedeur has to HAS TO audible to get the team in the best position for success.
I since hope that Shedeur gets his opportunity to shine. There are secret haters everywhere and he'll need to be at his best on every possession. Coordinator that might call some bullshit where Shedeur has to HAS TO audible to get the team in the best position for success.
Bottom line, a lot of white folks hate a confident Black man, that's all. It's not that deep.
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Cabot must be doing the numbers now. Gabriel has thrown at least two picks. The first one was in rookie OTA to the LB they picked in the 2nd round.
The guy is annoying but he's not the first person that said the Browns are looking at next year's draft for a quarterback...
Mind you,the one interception wasn't Shedeur's fault. The receiver had it in his hands and tipped it in the air.
I hate when people say he's just a fifth rounder like he's your average fifth round quarterback.
Everybody knows he should have at least been in the second round yet act like he's your everyday fifth rounder.
Everybody knows he should have at least been in the second round yet act like he's your everyday fifth rounder.
The Steelers should have grabbed him then.
Apparently,the Browns think Shedeur isn't ready or can't grasp the concepts even though it's a similar offense at Colorado, according to Shedeur.
The Browns are playing games.
Why the fagboys didn’t grab him? Jerry and Deion go way back
Apparently,the Browns think Shedeur isn't ready or can't grasp the concepts even though it's a similar offense at Colorado, according to Shedeur.
The Browns are playing games.
As soon he said "Mary Kay Cabot " I cut it off. Sorry, she's had an agenda before he stepped on the field. With that said, she could be a mouthpiece for the coaches, who didn't want Shedeur in the first place and then they can point to him not picking up the offense.
As soon he said "Mary Kay Cabot " I cut it off. Sorry, she's had an agenda before he stepped on the field. With that said, she could be a mouthpiece for the coaches, who didn't want Shedeur in the first place and then they can point to him not picking up the offense.
She's not the only one that's been saying it,though.
I find it hard to believe Shedeur is having a hard time with the Browns offense yet he said it's similar to what Pat Shurmer ran in Colorado....
And,it's crazy; how people are trying to discredit Shedeur's great performance at OTA's by saying "It's just OTA's'' yet turn around and say Dillion did a great job at OTA's.
Me and you know what it is but folks don't want to say it...lol
Man I might try to swing that, even thought I’m just be coming back from Miami
Jimmy horn jr and Shedeur in the game outing would be lovely
all that nigga got was a $250 fine?
i was cited for doing 53mph in a 35,....and my ticket was $520.
Down here in North Carolina
Anything over 100+ mph
Usually gets you an additional reckless driving charge
Or gets your drivers license temporarily suspended
The cops let Shedeur off easy
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Great we have our Cleveland insiders @ansatsusha_gouki & @BlackGoku to let us know what's really going on with Shadeur.
I'm not a Browns fan despite being from Cleveland but the narrative about Shedeur is mind boggling to me...
@5:45 mark dude on the left act like Shedeur is your average fifth round pick...
@7:00 mark.. How can Shedeur not grasp the offense when he had Pat Shurmer as the offensive coordinator in Colorado.
Also,a coach's job is to put the quarterback in the best position to play well. Not the other way around. What the hell is he talking about...lol
Don't let me start what the guy on the right said about Deion at the end....
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