Marvel Movie Discussion: The Thunderbolts* Update: Sentry? NEW BIG GAME TRAILER!

Saw it twice. REALLY enjoyed it.

Good Acting. Fun. Good pacing. Nice way to tie everything together.

I been said for a LONG time Yelena need more spotlight. But EVERYONE came to play from leads to supporting. Casting was well done.

I like how they are bringing ALL the pieces together Movies TV past present intergalactic.

The mental health angle was very clever and well done. Fight scenes were exceptionally choreographed. Good music

Smart post credit scenes.

If yall hating on this I can't take yall seriously.
i concur!! very solid movie...
 
Geraldine loves going braless..

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Another dumb assessment; Marvel place Thuderbolts in a bad situation to me; movie was solid; it just wasnt a blockbuster so it shouldnt have been in a blockbuster slot; that happens sometimes...
This new wave of people trying to point to Marvel flops is wild to me. If there is an issue maybe it’s the budgets. But making 400 million in box office for a Thunderbolts movie should’ve been considered the ceiling. People gotta come to grips them End Game numbers ain’t coming……maybe with Doomsday.
 
If they lose 100 million Marvel needs to revisit their budgeting on films….because no way should they have spent 500 million on that movie or any movie.

Part of the problem is the studio only gets 20-40% of international box office. I think the budget for Thunderbolts was about $350 million. By the time you add in the split with the theaters and marketing, you can see where that break even number comes from.



"Marvel Studios’ Thunderbolts was initially positioned as a pivotal entry in the Marvel Cinematic Universe’s Phase Five — a darker, ensemble-driven story featuring a lineup of anti-heroes led by Florence Pugh’s Yelena Belova.

Bolstered by a high-profile cast and a narrative that promised to explore the morally grey areas of the MCU, the film was expected to be both a commercial and creative turning point. However, the reality at the box office has turned out to be less than ideal.

As of May 26, Thunderbolts has earned $174M domestically and $181M internationally, for a worldwide total of $355M. While these numbers might seem respectable at a glance, multiple reports hinted that the film’s break-even point was in the $500M range — meaning the project is likely heading toward a loss of at least $100M for Disney. With the current trajectory, Thunderbolts may not even cross the $400M global mark.

This disappointing performance adds to a troubling pattern for Phase Five, which has seen multiple titles fall short of expectations. “Captain America: Brave New World,” another tentpole release, ended its run with $415M globally — a figure that, while underwhelming by Marvel’s standards, now looks stronger in comparison to “Thunderbolts.”

To be clear, Thunderbolts hasn’t sunk to the depths of “The Marvels,” which remains the MCU’s lowest-grossing film at just $205M worldwide. But it’s still the second-worst performer in franchise history, trailing even the much-criticized “Eternals,” which managed to surpass the $400 million mark globally.

These numbers are beginning to signal more than just isolated stumbles. Once a near-guarantee of box office success, the MCU appears to be grappling with franchise fatigue, waning audience enthusiasm, and perhaps a need to recalibrate its storytelling approach.

The underperformance of Thunderbolts may be a symptom of a larger shift — one that Marvel Studios will need to confront as it plans the next phases of its cinematic universe. Up next, this summer’s “Fantastic Four: The First Steps.”
 
This new wave of people trying to point to Marvel flops is wild to me. If there is an issue maybe it’s the budgets. But making 400 million in box office for a Thunderbolts movie should’ve been considered the ceiling. People gotta come to grips them End Game numbers ain’t coming……maybe with Doomsday.
I thought it would do at least 600 million; it should have done that but I also understand why it didn’t. I think if they put this movie in say Mach or September then maybe it does better. Those numbers will come for certain characters and themes though. This just wasn’t those characters
 
This new wave of people trying to point to Marvel flops is wild to me. If there is an issue maybe it’s the budgets. But making 400 million in box office for a Thunderbolts movie should’ve been considered the ceiling. People gotta come to grips them End Game numbers ain’t coming……maybe with Doomsday.
yeah this movie didnt need a 350 budget like wtf? i thought it was a tv show at first lol
none of them interesting enough
 
yeah this movie didnt need a 350 budget like wtf? i thought it was a tv show at first lol
none of them interesting enough
Thunderbolts budget was 180 million so it doubled its budget. But i agree it the characters wasn’t interesting enough for that movie slot…
 
Thunderbolts budget was 180 million so it doubled its budget. But i agree it the characters wasn’t interesting enough for that movie slot…
my bad i thought i read in this thread that it got a 350 budget. but even 180 is too much. i would give this movie between 100 -150.
 
I thought it would do at least 600 million; it should have done that but I also understand why it didn’t. I think if they put this movie in say Mach or September then maybe it does better. Those numbers will come for certain characters and themes though. This just wasn’t those characters
I just haven’t seen movies do this and studios need to come to grips that superhero fatigue is a thing. These films are essentially sequels. They are continuing stories from previous titles. 600 million is a lot but if they had that budget I guess that’s what they thought.
 
my bad i thought i read in this thread that it got a 350 budget. but even 180 is too much. i would give this movie between 100 -150.
I think it’s the reshoots and advertisements but no way should it be that high these are grounded heroes most shit was fight scenes….they tripping.
 
yeah this movie didnt need a 350 budget like wtf? i thought it was a tv show at first lol
none of them interesting enough
Yeah this should’ve been one of their cheaper films the heroes was grounded and didn’t have powers. They gotta dial back these budgets I get why Doomsday is the Russos return and it will be a high budget I get it.
 
disney been cookin dem books foh lol
thats why they keep making these movies they are making bank
Naw for real someone pocketing that shit and blaming reshoots. It doesn’t even make sense wgy would you keep spending more money when the return seems to be stuck around 300 to 400 million.
 
Naw for real someone pocketing that shit and blaming reshoots. It doesn’t even make sense wgy would you keep spending more money when the return seems to be stuck around 300 to 400 million.
right. they are making money aint no way all these movies losing money and they still continue
im not just talking about marvel movies.
 
This movie lost money at the box office because it was mid as fuck. If this was marvels 2nd worse grossing movie which pne was the worst?
 
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