Ex-Porn Stars In Their New Lives After Porn

I’m not even tryna throw gas on this, but I had no clue ya’ll were beefing lol on what page did this start?

Just a few pages ago. Someone posted one of those Mount Rushmore memes that positioned Pinky as one of the Top 5 Black female porn stars of all time. This dude responded with a long post screeching about how Pinky isn't a top porn star. Didn't present any logical case to support his point, but he seemed to have some sort of deep-seated emotional distaste for Pinky, like maybe she had rejected him in high school or something.

So I replied to him making a good faith case for Pinky being possibly the most important Black female of the last 20 years. I was super respectful about it too. I mean... y'all seen my posts here for the past couple years. I doubt you'll find any instance of me ever calling anybody out their name, or attacking a person rather than an argument. I don't roll like that.

So yeah, I prefaced it that I've never even been a huge fan of Pinky but nobody who looks at the facts objectively can deny her impact: She was really the first Black porn star--male or female--to fully embrace the possibilities of branding. From her hair to the sounds she made while fucking, she made them all part of a distinct brand. She was the first to really successfully engage with online marketing. Her website was a major hub. She insinuated herself into the hip-hop mainstream. Did interviews with mainstream outlets where she was funny, charming, and brutally honest about her life and thoughts. She was essential in bringing a lot of new talent into the game... and not just girls! Rico Strong will tell you that Pinky was the one who put him on.

In the days before online porn made pretty much everybody in America a porn viewer, you remember those days when the conventional wisdom was that if you knew porn stars' names you were probably a freak and a sicko? Most normal people could probably identify only one porn star by name: Jenna Jameson. Black porn stars? none. Pinky was probably the first Black porn performer that wide swaths of non-pornheads knew by name.*

So yeah. I stated these facts rationally and respectfully. This dude came back with a long thesis shrieking about how I'm biased because I love Pinky (even though I said I was never a huge fan). And he keeps coming back with longer and longer emotionally distressed, un-punctuated paragraphs calling me a femboi, a homo, a cracker, "Hey Joe... yeah, you Joe... fuck you Joe" and all other kinds of insults.

I don't think I have replied with an insult even once. And yet weeks later, he is still feeling all tender about it. :p


*actually no. Folks knew Heather Hunter and Janet Jacme because Lil Kim namechecked 'em. But Pinky turned a lot of non-pornheads into porn watchers.
 
I get and agree with your perspective here about the Black male talent but what about my other point about Ed increasing market share for Black female talent? His Black Debutantes was probably the first series specifically dedicated to featuring Black women if I'm not mistaken. You definitely need a place in the market for consumers to specifically choose Black women so there can be an industry.

I'm curious about your perspective there.

I don't think Ed really increased anybody's market share per se. Yes, the idea of Black Dirty Debutantes was kind of innovative at the time. And his videos were the place a lot of girls who went on to be superstars made their first appearances.

But I don't think it's that Ed was actually discovering these girls. It seems more like they had a rotation, a narrative sequence. And Ed just happened to be the first point of contact.

So a girl would first appear in Black Dirty Debutantes. And then next she'd be in Freaks Hoes and Flows. Or maybe Sugarwalls. And then she'd show up in Black Street Hookers. And then in Woodburn's Inner City Black Cheerleader Search. And then Booty Talk. And then from that point, she builds a career... or she just disappears.

I barely even think of Ed as part of the Black porn industry in fact. He was just the gateway, the baptism of fire that the girls had to get past in order to proceed along the path of their porn journey. I mentioned before that his videos didn't have the sense of style that defined the Black porn industry: he was highly uninspiring as both a performer and a director.

Most of his scenes were out-of-focus, poorly framed shots of him pumping away sluggishly while the girl either tries to conceal her disgust or even laughs at him. And then at the end, he'd ask them if they enjoyed it... and they'd often say no. (Which really seemed to turn Ed on; he had a humiliation kink and really liked it when the girls told him they didn't find him attractive)

And he didn't even film the girls in a way that made THEM look particularly hot either!

So yeah, you'd see a lot of girls for the first time in Ed's pics, but you'd never see their beauty, sexiness and skills showcased until they showed up in Jake's or TT's videos.
 
Also: when I talk about the sense of style that the Black male talent brought to the game and defined the industry... I'd say previous to the late 90s, the prominent Black male stars were people like Sean Michaels. No disrespect to him, he's a goat... But he was kind of.... I guess some would say "corny"?

You know, the 1980s style of Black porn star where he was completely clean shaven, and muscular in a sort of modellish way, spoke "proper" in a way that felt contrived. Usually wore a starched shirt and tightly knotted tie. He just seemed like the kind of guy who had wanted to be a "real" actor but somehow ended up being the porn Sidney Poitier.

When Mr. Marcus came on the scene, followed by Byron Long, Jake Steed, Mark Anthony. Devlin Weed, Justin Slayer, and yes... Wesley Pipes. Their energy was different. They seemed kinda like regular niggas that you might know. And the way they interacted with the girls, the way they engaged with them, the way they fucked them... it was just different from Sean Michaels who always seemed like he was trying to appease a white audience.

That's when Black porn REALLY became Black porn.
 
Also: when I talk about the sense of style that the Black male talent brought to the game and defined the industry... I'd say previous to the late 90s, the prominent Black male stars were people like Sean Michaels. No disrespect to him, he's a goat... But he was kind of.... I guess some would say "corny"?

You know, the 1980s style of Black porn star where he was completely clean shaven, and muscular in a sort of modellish way, spoke "proper" in a way that felt contrived. Usually wore a starched shirt and tightly knotted tie. He just seemed like the kind of guy who had wanted to be a "real" actor but somehow ended up being the porn Sidney Poitier.

When Mr. Marcus came on the scene, followed by Byron Long, Jake Steed, Mark Anthony. Devlin Weed, Justin Slayer, and yes... Wesley Pipes. Their energy was different. They seemed kinda like regular niggas that you might know. And the way they interacted with the girls, the way they engaged with them, the way they fucked them... it was just different from Sean Michaels who always seemed like he was trying to appease a white audience.

That's when Black porn REALLY became Black porn.
When them dudes above became the star of the show.... that's when a lot of us started watching lesbian flicks instead.
 
Damn, damn, damn........this nigga woke up shit!!!!
I’m not even tryna throw gas on this, but I had no clue ya’ll were beefing lol on what page did this start?
Bro this retarded homo for some silly sick ass reason just can't get in his head in his very sick ass head that everyone does not agree with him but for some crazy retarded reason he trys extremely hard to FORCE you to see his point and agree with it!!! If thats not retarded I don't know what you call it. This femboi thinks pinky is a all time great fine, alot of guys would say the same and alot of guys wouldn't but this jackass goes into his usual long psychological break down analysis of how she is a all time great and gives all this bullshit about what she did like he has some twisted pinky fetish and since I don't see her that way he then goes into a sort of twisted rant sort to speak about why I should see her the way he sees her. Crazy right, yeah I thought the same thing so for some sick ass reason he kept going and slipped some slick disrespect into it and now we are here going back and forth over some silly shit. Now I know that Joe is a homo and retarded thats fine not knocking that a person can't help how they are but the li e is crossed when you try to force other to think and view shit the same way you do. Never ever have I got into any silly shit on here but with this bust down negro, other have beefed with this fruit cake in the past and blocked this transsexual but naw I'm not gonna do that hell this is porn and I have no issue with him this is the internet and most retards like him feel like Tyson behind the keyboard but thats par for the course so I can end it by just not responding to him which is what I have been doing but this simp has a thing about me but I think I know why so iam goi g to make 1 change and be done with it crazy shit bro. This was a long response sort of like the Joe the creep but it needed to be so you could understand clearly how this started and why this homo has such a huge internal battle with herself but I get it she has been locked in her chastity cage in her cousin basement for years going porn and thinks he is a expert hey joe.....yeah you......hey buddy.....you hear me negro......yeah you with the crazy witch hat on.........yeah you.....fUcK you :giggle: fruit cake.
 
A whole page of incels e-beefing on a

A whole page of incels e-beefing on a porn thread. Sad...
Blood I'm going say this, shit pops off cause of comments like that, I have no beef with nobody especially over porn this silly shit goes south over others like you jumping in adding flame to fire with name calling so then it becomes more beef then another, then another and so on so if you think it's sad for shit to pop off over some porn shit I agree it's beyond crazy and silly but as a man you defend yourself when someone disrespects you with name calling cause you don't agree with THEIR point of view and niggas do it cause as I said before everyone is Tyson behind the keyboard in person people tend to be more respectful of others points of view cause of knowing what will happen if disrespect is shown. Also when others have so called beef and it does not involve you it's best to let the smoke settle between the persons so called beefing and not jump into the mess and create more silly, sad beef wouldn't you think?
 
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Blood I'm going say this, shit pops off cause of comments like that, I have no beef with nobody especially over porn this silly shit goes south over others like you jumping in adding flame to fire with name calling so then it becomes more beef then another, then another and so on so if you think it's sad for shit to pop off over some porn shit I agree it's beyond crazy and silly but as a man you defend yourself when someone disrespects you with name calling cause you don't agree with THEIR point of view and niggas do it cause as I said before everyone is Tyson behind the keyboard in person people tend to be more respectful of others points of view cause of knowing what will happen if disrespect is shown. Also when others have so called beef and it does not involve you it's best to let the smoke settle between the persons so called beefing and not jump into the mess and create more silly, sad beef wouldn't you think?
Hit dog holllllllllerin.

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I hope my life is never so lame that I write paragraphs and paragraphs on a porn board...and give 2 shits about what some anon incel thinks about me.

Where the nekkid bitchs at?!?
The nekkid bitchs are on this fourm calling people incels but yet claims to not give a shit about what incels thinks about them and clap back with "nekkid bitches". Smh some of you motherfuckers are sick ASF and need to get some serious psychological help its5 very disturbing. Typical nekkid bitch boi behavior.
 
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I don't think Ed really increased anybody's market share per se. Yes, the idea of Black Dirty Debutantes was kind of innovative at the time. And his videos were the place a lot of girls who went on to be superstars made their first appearances.

But I don't think it's that Ed was actually discovering these girls. It seems more like they had a rotation, a narrative sequence. And Ed just happened to be the first point of contact.

So a girl would first appear in Black Dirty Debutantes. And then next she'd be in Freaks Hoes and Flows. Or maybe Sugarwalls. And then she'd show up in Black Street Hookers. And then in Woodburn's Inner City Black Cheerleader Search. And then Booty Talk. And then from that point, she builds a career... or she just disappears.

I barely even think of Ed as part of the Black porn industry in fact. He was just the gateway, the baptism of fire that the girls had to get past in order to proceed along the path of their porn journey. I mentioned before that his videos didn't have the sense of style that defined the Black porn industry: he was highly uninspiring as both a performer and a director.

Most of his scenes were out-of-focus, poorly framed shots of him pumping away sluggishly while the girl either tries to conceal her disgust or even laughs at him. And then at the end, he'd ask them if they enjoyed it... and they'd often say no. (Which really seemed to turn Ed on; he had a humiliation kink and really liked it when the girls told him they didn't find him attractive)

And he didn't even film the girls in a way that made THEM look particularly hot either!

So yeah, you'd see a lot of girls for the first time in Ed's pics, but you'd never see their beauty, sexiness and skills showcased until they showed up in Jake's or TT's videos.
Ed's tendency to self-deprecate and get off on being humiliated is endearing. Whatever you say about him, the dude had some confidence. He knew he wasn't good looking and at one point he wasn't even in good shape having gained a lot weight. He still was fucking dimes, and plain janes too.

Jake and TT had no personality. They seemed like they were trying too hard to be down. Not that I cared that much because the chicks they featured were usually gorgeous but still.

As to your point about the porn industry, I can concede that your probably right. That said, what about Lexington Steel? He was pretty influential in porn. Why do you believe his importance doesn't approach TT's level?
 
Ed's tendency to self-deprecate and get off on being humiliated is endearing. Whatever you say about him, the dude had some confidence. He knew he wasn't good looking and at one point he wasn't even in good shape having gained a lot weight. He still was fucking dimes, and plain janes too.

Jake and TT had no personality. They seemed like they were trying too hard to be down. Not that I cared that much because the chicks they featured were usually gorgeous but still.

As to your point about the porn industry, I can concede that your probably right. That said, what about Lexington Steel? He was pretty influential in porn. Why do you believe his importance doesn't approach TT's level?

We-elll.... I understand what you mean about Jake and TT not having personality per se. And definitely about them trying hard to be down. I kinda know Jake's family and he grew up "white." Nigerian dad, white mom... and his efforts to portray himself as a street nigga often were laughable. TT's Puerto Rican but obviously white presenting, and he always seemed like he was trying to compensate for that. But it's not like he ever presented an explicit Latino image, but more like he felt he was black by association because of who he hung out with, and how much black tail he'd poked.

But even if these guys didn't have personalities... they had PERSONAS. Personas that just felt a bit more plugged in to the Black popular culture and "street vibe" than someone like Sean Michaels. Plus, the kind of girls they casted in their videos... before that, a lot of Black women in porn had the Anna Amore kind of look: thin, with big boobs (usually fake), big, straight hair (usually a fake looking wig)... they just had a "white" aesthetic.

But TT and Jake started bringing in chicks who looked like hood girls, college girls, round the way girls... just chicks that regular niggas could relate to more. That's another big thing that really changed the game

As for Lexington Steele... he kinda came in under TT and Jake, didn't he? I'm not gonna say they actually brought him into the industry but they gave him a lot of his early showcases before he elevated into the "mainstream"... I think Lex was like a perfect cross between the old school Sean Michaels type of star and the new school Mr. Marcus model.
 
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We-elll.... I understand what you mean about Jake and TT not having personality per se. And definitely about them trying hard to be down. I kinda know Jake's family and he grew up "white." Nigerian dad, white mom... and his efforts to portray himself as a street nigga often were laughable. TT's Puerto Rican but obviously white presenting, and he always seemed like he was trying to compensate for that. But it's not like he ever presented an explicit Latino image, but more like he felt he was black by association because of who he hung out with, and how much black tail he'd poked.

But even if these guys didn't have personalities... they had PERSONAS. Personas that just felt a bit more plugged in to the Black popular culture and "street vibe" than someone like Sean Michaels. Plus, the kind of girls they casted in their videos... before that, a lot of Black women in porn had the Anna Amore kind of look: thin, with big boobs (usually fake), big, straight hair (usually a fake looking wig)... they just had a "white" aesthetic.

But TT and Jake started bringing in chicks who looked like hood girls, college girls, round the way girls... just chicks that regular niggas could relate to more. That's another big thing that really changed the game

As for Lexington Steele... he kinda came in under TT and Jake, didn't he? I'm not gonna say they actually brought him into the industry but they gave him a lot of his early showcases before he elevated into the "mainstream"... I think Lex was like a perfect cross between the old school Sean Michaels type of star and the new school Mr. Marcus model.
This is an analysis only a true porn connoisseur could write lol. You could write a book on porn. I'm not joking. I've actually read books on porn from both a scholarly perspective and a non-scholarly, fan-based but still expert perspective. You could definitely do the latter maybe even the former if you have the credentials.
 
i think the mods should clean this thread and only leave up actual pornstars and what they are doing now and delete the rest of the conversations
This thread would grind to a halt in that case and be filled with constant updates on the 2 or 3 chicks dudes were able to find.
 
This thread would grind to a halt in that case and be filled with constant updates on the 2 or 3 chicks dudes were able to find.
I don't think it would, there are alot of guys that find and post porn sluts that I never even heard of before and ex porn sluts "where are they now" so this forum has been awesome it that regard but with most forums weather it be sports, politics, etc there will always be toxic vitriol and heated debates in online spaces due to people wanting to argue and get in their feelings about someone else's view point lol its has always been that way since the early days of chat rooms and yahoo groups. There is no solution to it cause people are going to always want you to AGREE with them instead of respectfully agreeing to disagree but thats where rational though process comes into play some people have it, some don't and because of that you get what you get it's crazy but this is a crazy world lol.
 
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I don't think it would, there are alot of guys that find and post porn sluts that I never even heard of before and ex porn sluts "where are they now" so this forum has been awesome it that regard but with most forums weather it be sports, politics, etc there will always be toxic vitriol and heated debates in online spaces due to people wanting to argue and get in their feelings about someone else's view point lol its has always been that way since the early days of chat rooms and yahoo groups. There is no solution to it cause people are going to always want you to AGREE with them instead of respectfully agreeing to disagree but thats where rational though process comes into play some people have it, some don't and because of that you get what you get it's crazy but this is a crazy world lol.
I see more people inquiring about chicks moreso than I see actual updates. I have no problem with that because I've done the same. Then again I haven't been here for months so I'm easily out of the loop.

Personally, I don't really have too much of an interest in learning about porn actresses I haven't heard of particularly if they're already retired. There might be an odd one who I just need to see more of but that's pretty few and far between. Like I don't care about any of the random 8th Street Latinas actresses posted here. I think the discussions are cool when there's no beefing but if the mods decide to dedicate this thread solely to updates and have separate thread for discussions I'd be cool with that.
 
I see more people inquiring about chicks moreso than I see actual updates. I have no problem with that because I've done the same. Then again I haven't been here for months so I'm easily out of the loop.

Personally, I don't really have too much of an interest in learning about porn actresses I haven't heard of particularly if they're already retired. There might be an odd one who I just need to see more of but that's pretty few and far between. Like I don't care about any of the random 8th Street Latinas actresses posted here. I think the discussions are cool when there's no beefing but if the mods decide to dedicate this thread solely to updates and have separate thread for discussions I'd be cool with that.
Yeah most definitely I'm with that too. This fourm has put me on some nice finds and I considered myself a porn head for 40 years some of the finds I got from this forum has been awesome and 99% of the posts are cool the dialog is cool but when you have to slip in name calling to make your point or because someone doesn't agree with your point the beefing starts and no man should take disrespect weather it's in person or online. So I'm all for the mods doing whatever they have to do to take out the toxicity.
 
A whole page of incels e-beefing on a porn thread. Sad...
I hope my life is never so lame that I write paragraphs and paragraphs on a porn board...and give 2 shits about what some anon incel thinks about me.

Where the nekkid bitchs at?!?
I feel like that one part on pulp fiction where Samuel L Jackson tells Vincent to shut the fuck up. All of these dudes riding whole ass soliloquies need to shut the fuck up and post some bitches
 
I feel like that one part on pulp fiction where Samuel L Jackson tells Vincent to shut the fuck up. All of these dudes riding whole ass soliloquies need to shut the fuck up and post some bitches
I POST THESE HOES, THAT STOP THE INCEL FAGGOT HAS CONTRIBUTED NOTHING BUT TALK ON THIS THREAD ZERO CONTRIBUTION NOTHING BUT A FAGGOT BITCH NIGGA
 
This is an analysis only a true porn connoisseur could write lol. You could write a book on porn. I'm not joking. I've actually read books on porn from both a scholarly perspective and a non-scholarly, fan-based but still expert perspective. You could definitely do the latter maybe even the former if you have the credentials.

tbh I have kind of thought about doing just that. There's been a couple of books on the Black porn scene but none of them have been great.... The best was one called MONEY SHOT (can't remember the author right now) but I halfway wanna take a crack at doing something better. Unfortunately my hands are always full with more pressing projects:p
 
I feel like that one part on pulp fiction where Samuel L Jackson tells Vincent to shut the fuck up. All of these dudes riding whole ass soliloquies need to shut the fuck up and post some bitches

Or alternately you can just scroll past posts that don't interest you? For example, the way I do when you repeatedly post pics of Mocha. Make no mistake... I've always been a big fan of Mocha and I love the fact that she still looks great. But I'm not sure it is necessary for this thread to feature weekly updates on her. Still, I ain't mad. Post what you want, it doesn't have to appeal to me personally. You can still do you.
 
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Yeah most definitely I'm with that too. This fourm has put me on some nice finds and I considered myself a porn head for 40 years some of the finds I got from this forum has been awesome and 99% of the posts are cool the dialog is cool but when you have to slip in name calling to make your point or because someone doesn't agree with your point the beefing starts and no man should take disrespect weather it's in person or online. So I'm all for the mods doing whatever they have to do to take out the toxicity.

My brother in Christ, the only person who engaged in disrespect and namecalling is YOU.
 
tbh I have kind of thought about doing just that. There's been a couple of books on the Black porn scene but none of them have been great.... The best was one called MONEY SHOT (can't remember the author right now) but I halfway wanna take a crack at doing something better. Unfortunately my hands are always full with more pressing projects:p
Definitely concentrate on your priorities but if you ever have free time or find that you need a new project, definitely consider writing that book. To be honest, I've never read a book solely about porn from the Black fan perspective. I've seen some scholarly presentations by Black academics about Black performers in the industry but they're usually about how racist (which is true) porn can be.

Anyway, one of my favorite non-scholarly books about porn is called Dirty! Dirty! Dirty! by Mike Edison. He's a Jewish dude from New York who was in the punk scene in the 80s and 90s. He knew a lot of people, traveled the world, and has a strong taste for the profane. The dude is also an amazing writer and does his homework. He's not a scholar by any means but his writing is entertaining and surprisingly informative.
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Definitely concentrate on your priorities but if you ever have free time or find that you need a new project, definitely consider writing that book. To be honest, I've never read a book solely about porn from the Black fan perspective. I've seen some scholarly presentations by Black academics about Black performers in the industry but they're usually about how racist (which is true) porn can be.

Anyway, one of my favorite non-scholarly books about porn is called Dirty! Dirty! Dirty! by Mike Edison. He's a Jewish dude from New York who was in the punk scene in the 80s and 90s. He knew a lot of people, traveled the world, and has a strong taste for the profane. The dude is also an amazing writer and does his homework. He's not a scholar by any means but his writing is entertaining and surprisingly informative.
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Not seen this one... I'll check it out!
 
Or alternately you can just scroll past posts that don't interest you? For example, the way I do when you repeatedly post pics of Mocha. Make no mistake... I've always been a big fan of Mocha and I love the fact that she still looks great. But I'm not sure it is necessary for this thread to feature weekly updates on her. Still, I ain't mad. Post what you want, it doesn't have to appeal to me personally. You can still do you.
Welcome to the ignore button bitch. Keep on shouting your white noise cuz I won't hear it or see it
 
Welcome to the ignore button bitch. Keep on shouting your white noise cuz I won't hear it or see it

Oh, I'm so devastated!!! Some faceless yahoo on a message board who I have never said a word to and had no intention of ever doing so, and who really contributes nothing to this thread beyond obsessively and creepily posting pics of Mocha... BLOCKED ME!!!!

HOW SHALL I LIVE?????
 
Saw an interview the other day that they trick/ force amateurs into doing anal on their 1st scene. Stars who stay in the game are regretting it. Sounds like they are mad they got no extra $$$.

Damn it crazy when they have legit jobs after doing interracial Dp's. Its always funny to me. At least she didn’t get fat
 
Damn it crazy when they have legit jobs after doing interracial Dp's. Its always funny to me. At least she didn’t get fat

I don't know about that tricked/forced to do anal stuff... Eden West said she regretted doing the anal but that she did it because they paid damn well for it.

And once in a while they still get a girl who skips the anal completely.
 
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