I agree.gotta have Kellz up there
I agree.gotta have Kellz up there
Like I've said before and I'll say it again, no matter what list people make, none of them are BAD!The list for me will be
Marvin
Luther
R Kelly
Teddy P
R&B's Greats!!...![]()
Facts!!..Like I've said before and I'll say it again, no matter what list people make, none of them are BAD!
You must be a younger brother. (nothing wrong with that)gotta have Kellz up there
Yeah, I'm starting to realize that because you can't be mixing singers with different eras putting them on the list..Gotta do it by eras unfortunately
Yes, I thought the addition of Babyface was hilarious. Not discounting Babyface as a singer, but come on, he wouldn't be on Babyface's own top 10Babyface?!![]()
ok if you consider 48 young I guess so. what does sounding like someone or who came out 1st has to do with anything?You must be a younger brother. (nothing wrong with that)
Gen X knows that Guy came first. R. Kelly got popular because people thought it was Aaron Hall with new material. Kelly came out sounding just like Guy.
Aaron Hall sites Charlie Wilson of The GAP band as an influence and its obvious.
In the 90s, R&B was on the downswing because of the popularity of hip-hop/rap.
R&B's heyday was the 60s/70s/80s. Kelly and Face came in later.
I would have to agree that Ron Isley and Smokey would be in competition for that last spot. There might have to be a top 5 instead of Mount Rushmore of R&B.
Ron has had hits through every phase of R&B.
Everyone who posted their list can't go wrong.I can live with this but I feel like there is someone else more deserving than baby face..... wait..... Ray charles
It's Luther,Marvin,Al Green & Smokey Robinson for me.
Hot 97 wouldn't even know hip hop at this point much less r&b.Hot97 had usher, Chris brown, kells and mj
Over who? Don't tell me over Marvin or Steviegotta have Kellz up there
Even Sam Cooke.I can live with this but I feel like there is someone else more deserving than baby face..... wait..... Ray charles
lol who said that? clearly my response was when part one was posted smhOver who? Don't tell me over Marvin or Stevie
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Kellz ain't gon be on part one two or three.lol who said that? clearly my response was when part one was posted smh
I don't think it's questioning Babyface's accomplishments, it's more so along with those other three. And there's nothing wrong with being a bit behind those guys.This is more like it if we're talking straight up R&B. There are definitely more people who are also deserving to be up there. I'd have no problem with James Brown (though he was also a pioneer of Funk). MJ and Prince could be up there, but they were also rock and pop. Teddy P has an argument. Sam Cooke has a great argument since he's the reason those four were who they were.
For those questioning Babyface, it's hard to deny him being on that list when you look at what he's contributed with his pen alone. The 80s and 90s was basically his!
Toni Braxton's whole early career.
Damn near the entire Don't Be Cruel album.
Perhaps the two dopest soundtracks of all time in Boomerang and Waiting to Exhale.
Boyz II Men's "End of the Road" was the longest running #1 song in Billboard history, obliterating Elvis.
Then spun the block and broke his own recrod with Boyz II Men's "I'll Make Love To You"
This list of written songs is CRAZY. It's basically the soundtrack to our R&B lives in the 80s/90s. He could've just sponsored the Quiet Storm every night.
List of songs written by Babyface - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
This is more like it if we're talking straight up R&B. There are definitely more people who are also deserving to be up there. I'd have no problem with James Brown (though he was also a pioneer of Funk). MJ and Prince could be up there, but they were also rock and pop. Teddy P has an argument. Sam Cooke has a great argument since he's the reason those four were who they were.
For those questioning Babyface, it's hard to deny him being on that list when you look at what he's contributed with his pen alone. The 80s and 90s was basically his!
Toni Braxton's whole early career.
Damn near the entire Don't Be Cruel album.
Perhaps the two dopest soundtracks of all time in Boomerang and Waiting to Exhale.
Boyz II Men's "End of the Road" was the longest running #1 song in Billboard history, obliterating Elvis.
Then spun the block and broke his own recrod with Boyz II Men's "I'll Make Love To You"
This list of written songs is CRAZY. It's basically the soundtrack to our R&B lives in the 80s/90s. He could've just sponsored the Quiet Storm every night.
List of songs written by Babyface - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Somebody said on this thread that singers should be rated from their eras.I don't think it's questioning Babyface's accomplishments, it's more so along with those other three. And there's nothing wrong with being a bit behind those guys.
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We can do both. All-time and eras. That's fine as wellSomebody said on this thread that singers should be rated from their eras.
I said babyface the same way someone would say stevie,donny,sam,marvin because they just weren't singers they wrote,arranged and you can always tell them apart from everyone else.I can hear a song and tell Babyface wrote it and if not he inspired it.Babyface? Seriously? The only way he gets in is if he buys a ticket
If this was Rock N Roll Chuck would be up there,he made the shit look easy.I haven't heard no one mentioned Chuck Berry.
I said babyface the same way someone would say stevie,donny,sam,marvin because they just weren't singers they wrote,arranged and you can always tell them apart from everyone else.I can hear a song and tell Babyface wrote it and if not he inspired it.
I don't based my picks off of vocals because there's a million and one singers but what makes them different besides dancing that could be added to.What did they do to change things?did they inspire singers and a sound after .....
I totally forgot about James Brown he has to be added even before MJ
Al green?Bobby womack?
yeah, I had no issues with the lineup regardless of people wanting to change it to their liking of who should be on their list.My wife and I were having this exact same discussion earlier today, and the OP's lineup is 75% of what I would have chosen.. Trade out Babyface for Uncle Charlie, and we have a winner..
Like I've said before and I'll say it again, no matter what list people make, none of them are BAD!
I stopped reading after this.People, Stevie is a genius equaled only by Duke, but he ain't no singer. Not for Rushmore.
I stopped reading after this.
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I think its different types of male R&B though; so Stevie isnt in the same category as MJ; or MJ isnt in the same category as Prince; or Prince isnt in the same category as Luther; etc etc so it makes it difficult to have a Mt Rushmore...
man if Kels wasn't out there wilding, his spot would be solidified![]()
His spot is still solidified, I can separate the artist from human being.
R. Kelly stole his style from Aaron Hall. Aaron Hall was 2nd generation Charlie Wilson. R. Kelly can't make the cut. Sorry.
Luther was the quintessential R&B voice of the 80s. Luther made sultry and low the thing to be. Luther was king; Patti was queen. That's not even up for debate.
Stevie has influenced so many R&B vocalists that it ain't even funny. Irreplaceable.
Marvin Gaye was the voice of 70s R&B and was a prototype for the sound that would eventually become the standard. Its hard to argue against Marvin.
The only real debate is who gets the last spot.
Prince and MJ are amazing artists but they were hybrid artists. Michael Jackson is not a genre...but sometimes it seems like it. Still, he was called the King of Pop, not the king of R&B.
Smokey?
Who represents the high-voiced falsettos of R&B?
Babyface?!![]()
Gotta do it by eras unfortunately