Zelenskyy 'Ukraine war aid, ‘got only $75 of $177b, Trump say Ukraine needs to repay… A deal been reached on partnership, USA turned their backs lmao


"The two countries have been discussing an agreement that would require Ukraine to pay half the revenue it will extract from the future monetisation of natural resources to a special fund controlled by the U.S., the New York Times reported. The fund would be tasked with reinvesting part of the proceeds in Ukraine, as a catalyst for attracting overseas capital. The U.S. appears to have dropped the $500 billion demand, which never made much sense. American civil and military support to Kyiv over the last three years amounted to 114 billion euros, according to the Kiel Institute for the World Economy. Over the same period, European countries sent 132 billion euros.

A bar chart showing government support to Ukraine between 2022 to 2024

A bar chart showing government support to Ukraine between 2022 to 2024
One big unknown is the scale of Ukraine’s assets. Local authorities have a poor picture of their country’s underground resources, which include uranium, lithium, oil and gas. The last mapping of so-called rare-earth metals was completed decades ago, and the deposits may not be viable. Besides, some of the coveted elements are in territory occupied by Russia.
Furthermore, any revenue is years away. Ukraine will first have to build or rebuild mines and repair the country’s damaged energy grid. The promise of future returns could spur U.S. investment, thereby beginning the rebuilding of Ukraine, a task the World Bank estimates will cost $524 billion.


Zelenskiy wanted any deal to be conditional on American involvement in policing a truce with Russia. That condition appears to have run up against the Trump administration’s opposition to military involvement in Europe. But the Ukrainian leader has also stated that giving the U.S. an interest in the country’s economic future would achieve the same outcome. Indeed, Russia doesn’t like the mooted deal - and President Vladimir Putin has offered the U.S. a mineral agreement of his own.
Zelenskiy might also conclude that a general agreement covering unknown assets with distant revenue may not bind Kyiv much. By the time the mines are up and running, the U.S. may have a friendlier president. Ukraine could then review the contract or tear it up altogether. "
 
Last edited:
What's going to happen is that the EU is going to start using that Trump level diplomacy against him.


Macron can go on TV and say, Donald, I'm have in my hands a document signing the entire EU over to BRICS. And if we go over to BRICS, your fucking economy would be devastaed. How do you think your people would react to every worker in America getting a 50% pay cut?

Now, here's what's going to happen. You and JD Vance need to come to Europe and apologize then thank us for not taking your economy. Also, the both of you will shut the fuck up and keep the EU out of your mouths.
 
Last edited:
You all don't really know why those "minerals" are so important, do you?
We are about to embark on a level of AI that the world has never seen. All of the major players are gearing up for it.
It takes a lot of big servers to run AI. Rare earth elements are in every computer.
Both Ukraine and Greenland have large deposits of rare earth minerals, graphite and lithium. Why do you think there is such a big interest in Greenland all of a sudden? We never gave a shit before. That's Elon in Trump's ear. He needs the lithium and rare earth elements for his cars so he can corner the market. The U.S. usage is for the AI computer implementation. All of the big billionaires have a lot to gain from AI development. Everything is going in "the cloud" and all of the big players want control of their piece.

Trump is always going to be an asshole. He always was. Everybody is using him to get what they want because they know he is a bully who will bulldoze over anyone who gets in the way of his ego. Muthafucka is too stupid to realize that he is just a high-ranking concierge.
 
Because that's what you do when your allies are in trouble.

When Al-Qaeda attacked the US Canada sent troops to Afghanistan to fight and die along side American forces. So did Great Britain.

Both countries fought for 13 years without demanding a drop of Texan oil or a pound of West Virginian coal. It would have been unthinkable because that's what you do for your allies.

That's why the rest of the world is tripping over each other to give Zelensky as much support and encouragement as they can. They understand this war is bigger than some stupid minerals. They also understand that a victory in Ukraine will keep Russian imperialism out of their own countries. After nearly 40 years of Cold war the United States should understand this too.

Unfortunately, America's commander-in-Chief has never had a real friend in his life. All of his relationships are transactional, including his marriages. It's a fatal flaw that can leave the country isolated and vulnerable to any bad actor who wants to attack us.
No Trump is a Russian asset. What are ya'll missing? Putin might as well be President instead of Musk.
 
Say the US gets the Lithium deposits. What do you think they should do with them?

Washington just extended some of the sanctions for another year against Russia

Zelensky came visit to sign the mineral deal but was told to get out the White House…

Soooooo what now :lol:



 
No Trump is a Russian asset. What are ya'll missing? Putin might as well be President instead of Musk.


I hear that puppet talk and all before I definitely thought we’d see the opposite of this..


Trump prolongs sanctions against Russia for another year​

FEBRUARY 28,2025
Trump prolongs sanctions against Russia for another year

iconiconiconiconicon
U.S. President Donald Trump has extended sanctions against Russia for another year in response to its full-scale aggression in Ukraine. The decision, made on Feb. 28, continues a series of restrictive measures that were first introduced in 2014 following Russia’s illegal annexation of Crimea.
The sanctions remain in place under the state of emergency declared by the U.S. in March 2014 during Russia’s initial invasion of Ukraine.
Imposed by then-President Barack Obama, this state of emergency has been extended multiple times since.
The sanctions freeze the assets of individuals involved in Russia’s aggression in Ukraine, including those who supported Crimea’s annexation. The state of emergency has been prolonged by successive presidents.
Trump’s executive order confirms that the actions and policies outlined in these sanctions continue to pose an “unusual and extraordinary threat” to U.S. national security and foreign policy.
It will remain in effect at least until March 6, 2026.
While the order doesn’t specify the exact sanctions being extended, it reaffirms that the sanctions imposed in 2014, 2018, and 2022 will continue, with further measures against Russian individuals and entities backing Russia’s aggressive policies.
Trump and his team have previously stated that sanctions could be lifted only after a peace agreement is signed and conditions ensuring stability and security in Ukraine are met.
 
What's going to happen is that the EU is going to start using that Trump level diplomacy against him.


Macron can go on TV and say, Donald, I'm have in my hands a document signing the entire EU over to BRICS. And if we go over to BRICS, your fucking economy would be devastaed. How do you think your people would react to every worker in America getting a 50% pay cut?

Now, here's what's going to happen. You and JD Vance need to come to Europe and apologize then thank us for not taking your economy. Also, the both of you will shut the fuck up and keep the EU out of your mouths.

the EU is too stupid to realized what they had.

if the Europeans were smart they would’ve never assisted with this conflict.
They let Americans hoodwinked them against Russia.


Years ago Trump said “Europe should not be that dependent on Russia”

They started thinking, “Ummmm the Americans are making at great point…”

Slowly and surely things happened and look where we are today…

EU and USA on the brink of a hybrid tariff war
 
Last edited:
If I don't agree with anything else I agree with this and how Drump is handling it.

War cost money and we need to get something out of it or withdraw from it and them.

Kick his begging ass out the door while he continue to lose a war he knows they will never win.
 
What's going to happen is that the EU is going to start using that Trump level diplomacy against him.


Macron can go on TV and say, Donald, I'm have in my hands a document signing the entire EU over to BRICS. And if we go over to BRICS, your fucking economy would be devastaed. How do you think your people would react to every worker in America getting a 50% pay cut?

Now, here's what's going to happen. You and JD Vance need to come to Europe and apologize then thank us for not taking your economy. Also, the both of you will shut the fuck up and keep the EU out of your mouths.
the EU better pull a don corleone and offer zel zel and offer and cant refuse]...and rubb it all in trumps face...them rare earth will set them
up damm good...
 
It would take more than 4 years to build the infrastructure to start getting those deposits out of Ukraine.

Your daddy/cult leader will be dead or gone by then. Just like Canada and Mexico finessed the shit out of Trump by agreeing to do what they have already been doing. Zelensky could just say yes then see if Dems gain control and actually restore the Reputation of the country by reversing the idiot shakedown.

Even if Trump died tomorrow, do you really think a future president would turn down half a trillion dollars in precious metals for the country and their donors?

When a policy is both cruel and effective, the current administration takes credit for the effectiveness, blaming the cruelty on the previous one. They may offer a token gesture of compassion but rarely change course.

For example, many Trump policies, like tariffs on China, billionaire tax cuts, and refugee camps in Mexico, were continued by the Biden administration.

As for Canada and Mexico "finessing" Trump, it’s likely his administration knew about the funds and troop plans but was unprepared for a trade war, using delays as an excuse, as seen in January.

Ultimately, Trump’s deal was one-sided, and his tantrum when Zelensky didn’t sign is what you’d expect from a reality TV star.
 
The mistake, if you want to call it that, the Ukraine made was not pushing to join NATO before any of this started. They chose not to because they wanted to be neutral and by doing so they thought they would be safe from what they're currently experiencing. When Russia invaded the Ukraine in 2014 the first thing they did was annex it. Which was absolute nonsense but the U.S. couldn't do anything about it directly, Indirectly they through their money and support behind Ukraine and watched them whip ass and take names. The second mistake the Ukraine made was assuming that America would still be the America they were use to even in the event of a new administration. Like most people they thought (mistake number three) the Donald would never occupy the Oval Office.

Now they're making a full court press to join NATO in the hopes of securing the assistance they need to continue to defend themselves without having to bow down to the extortionist tactics of Trump's administration. My take of course.
 
the EU better pull a don corleone and offer zel zel and offer and cant refuse]...and rubb it all in trumps face...them rare earth will set them
up damm good...

This the one thing that many understand ain’t good… the EU can’t battle Russia without USA
(Or they don’t think they can)


Russia don’t view all of the Ukrainians as Israelis view the Palestinians.
They pretty much took it lite on Ukrainian, for the most part. Not saying some areas don’t look areas in Palestine. Moscow didn’t set out to cleanse the land of its inhabitants.

Kiev just recently starting to see added targeting.


This would not be the case if the EU goes at Russia.
Putin clearly stated the UK is the first target. Thats up to us to believe him or not but the Brits citizens wasn’t to thrilled about that.


The thing about it is, the EU wants backing from Washington. If things go sour in Ukraine in the future, they like to know Washington is there.
They expressed the idea of sending peacekeeping troops to Ukraine, but with the American backing aka NATO.

This why the security guarantees is such a huge issue.
 
If I don't agree with anything else I agree with this and how Drump is handling it.

War cost money and we need to get something out of it or withdraw from it and them.

Kick his begging ass out the door while he continue to lose a war he knows they will never win.
That war should have ended 3 years ago. We're the ones who keep it going. At the expense of the economy.
 
These liars. The deal was that he kiss the ring.
He didn't.
If this deal was so important, an "insult" (which wasn't that actually) wouldn't have been a dealbreaker.
Its all on President Ego.

Don’t seem like He come there to sign Washington’s deal.
They had this deal at the one of those conferences but Ukraine wasn’t feeling it…

So they drew up their own and came to present it, is how it was present by a few talking heads
 
:roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao: :roflmao:


Trump started the shit, well Zelensky started it


Trump was upset Zelensky didn’t come dressing like a business man.
Trump said something slick and that started was the beginning of the end



 
Back
Top