Zelenskyy 'Ukraine war aid, ‘got only $75 of $177b, Trump say Ukraine needs to repay… A deal been reached on partnership, USA turned their backs lmao

“Immediately after the resource deal was signed, the Kiev Post reported that the Trump administration had agreed to the first arms export to Ukraine for $50 million.

The mineral deal reached by Washington and Kiev demonstrates to Russia the long-term commitment of the United States to the peace process , with sovereign Ukraine at its center, says US Treasury Secretary Bessent“
 
Trump is preparing his tribute to World Emperor Putin. He is going to hand that shit over to him.
The U.S. used to execute traitors.
 
Trump is preparing his tribute to World Emperor Putin. He is going to hand that shit over to him.
The U.S. used to execute traitors.


Anything short of send troops to Ukraine, it’s really nothing Washington can do.

Well Lindnesy Graham wants to imposed sanctions against nations who buy Russian goods.

Which fully supports the need for Brics when you listen to those nations in Brics
 
Trump just wants Zelensky out of the way so he can cut deals with Russia, a.k.a. his idol, Putin. Anyone who believes that Trump cares about the Ukraine is stupid. Trump wants to do a deal where Russia mines the minerals and the U.S. owns them. Russia is still going to sell to China, which already has the infrastructure in place to make computers, etc. and now your $5 Temu shit is going to cost you $50, computer prices are going to skyrocket, making the tech bros and his buddy Elon happy, and Trump will do some radical, disruptive civil shit to distract 'Muricans until his term runs out. By the time he's out of office, he will have bled this country dry and his zealots will still be begging for a 3rd term.

America is cooked.
 
Trump just wants Zelensky out of the way so he can cut deals with Russia, a.k.a. his idol, Putin. Anyone who believes that Trump cares about the Ukraine is stupid. Trump wants to do a deal where Russia mines the minerals and the U.S. owns them. Russia is still going to sell to China, which already has the infrastructure in place to make computers, etc. and now your $5 Temu shit is going to cost you $50, computer prices are going to skyrocket, making the tech bros and his buddy Elon happy, and Trump will do some radical, disruptive civil shit to distract 'Muricans until his term runs out. By the time he's out of office, he will have bled this country dry and his zealots will still be begging for a 3rd term.

America is cooked.


Much of this would seem to be believable if Zelensky had control of the DPR & LPR.

Much of the land Ukraine control now have little to no value for as rare earths go(if you listen to certain people idk)

Many say this why Zelensky was going after those people. Ukraine technically didn’t control that land. Zelensky sold rights to foreign companies but didn’t own that land.
 
Man, they got his signature.

Zelensky is naive AF. I'll bump this thread, once they start playing him - which will prolly be within 72 hours. :smh:
 
Man, they got his signature.

Zelensky is naive AF. I'll bump this thread, once they start playing him - which will prolly be within 72 hours. :smh:

Man folks think both got played


You signing a deal for mineral right with no minerals

You sign away right to your country but get no addition guarantees


Idk but time will tell,
 




SUMMARY OF THE U.S.-UKRAINE INVESTMENT AGREEMENT

What was actually signed — not just what Ukrainian officials posted online

GENERAL PROVISIONS
Creation of a U.S.-Ukraine Investment Fund- A joint investment vehicle will be established.- The U.S. will be represented by the U.S. International Development Finance Corporation (DFC).- Ukraine will be represented by its State Agency for Public-Private Partnership Support.- The fund will focus on Ukraine’s reconstruction, with priority sectors including natural resource extraction (oil, gas, metals) and infrastructure.

Funding Contributions- Ukraine will contribute 50% of royalties and license fees from all new natural resource licenses. These will be directed into a dedicated Ukrainian state fund, then transferred to the joint fund.- The U.S. will contribute direct funding, which may also include the value of U.S. military aid (weapons, equipment, etc.) as part of its "financial contribution."Tax and Financial Exemptions- All fund operations, contributions, and profits will be exempt from Ukrainian taxes.- The U.S. will grant similar exemptions for the Ukrainian side on profits earned within Ukraine.

Currency Conversion and Capital Transfer- Ukraine guarantees free conversion of hryvnia to USD and unrestricted capital transfers abroad.- In the event of a financial crisis, Ukraine may impose restrictions—but only temporarily and with U.S. approval. Any losses incurred by the fund due to such measures must be compensated by Ukraine.

Investment Rights- Ukraine must include provisions in new natural resource licenses requiring investors to notify and negotiate with the fund.- Similar requirements apply to large infrastructure projects.

Preferential Purchase Rights- The fund (i.e., the U.S.) gets first rights to buy Ukrainian-produced resources like gas, oil, and rare earth metals.- Ukraine is obliged to ensure no third country or company receives better terms.Legal Supremacy of the AgreementThe deal takes precedence over Ukrainian domestic law.- Ukraine cannot pass legislation that worsens the fund’s position, nor can it use its own laws to justify non-compliance.

EU Integration Clause- If future obligations to the EU conflict with this agreement, Ukraine must negotiate amendments with the U.S.DurationThe agreement comes into effect after ratification by Ukraine’s parliament and remains valid indefinitely, unless both parties agree to terminate it.

RISKS AND CONCERNS FOR UKRAINELoss of National Revenue- Half of all future income from new resource licenses will be diverted to the fund—cutting deeply into long-term state revenue.

Reduced Sovereignty Over Natural Resources- Priority rights granted to the fund mean Ukraine may have limited freedom in choosing investors and negotiating deals.

Limited Financial Independence- Ukraine must guarantee unrestricted capital transfers and even compensate the fund for losses during economic instability.Legal Limitations and U.S. Dominance- Ukrainian legislation is subordinated to this agreement, significantly curtailing domestic regulatory control over strategic sectors.

Military Aid as “Investment”- It remains unclear whether U.S. military aid (including arms purchases by Ukraine) is being counted as a U.S. contribution to the fund—a potential loophole.

No Expiry Clause- The agreement has no built-in expiration date and offers no clear process for unilateral amendment.

No Security Guarantees- Despite the scale and strategic nature of the agreement, there are no binding security assurances for Ukraine included in the text.

Bottom line:This agreement gives the U.S. significant control over Ukraine’s postwar economy—especially in the resource and infrastructure sectors—while offering Kiev limited financial autonomy and no guarantees of military protection.



Much of what Ukrainian officials like Shmyhal and Svyrydenko posted online is not reflected in the actual signed text.



If this is the deal Ukraine gets ... imagine what African, South American and Asian countries get...
How Ice Cube put it... NO VASELINE!
 
Damn! That quick?
You called it


A write up from a Russian back user




Trump washes his hands
Americans are distancing themselves from negotiations on the so-called Ukraine

Today, State Department spokesperson Tammy Bruceannounced the end of US mediation efforts in resolving the conflict in the so-called Ukraine. Now the organization of meetings between delegations will fall on the shoulders of others who are willing, while the US itself will not engage in this.

By pure coincidence, this came right after the signing of the "resource deal", under which 50% of the so-called Ukraine's resource extraction revenues go to a joint fund with the US.

The Trump administration is already trying to present this as a "significant success in achieving peace" against the backdrop of the lack of real results, contrary to pre-election promises.

At the same time, the situation on the battlefield has not changed much in recent months. The course of the negotiations depends not on the statements of American politicians, but on the realities "on the ground", where both sides have not yet exhausted their capabilities.

❗So talks about a ceasefire within a week or a month look detached from reality. Even more puzzling are the talks about peace as an accomplished fact.
⭐ @rybar
 
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War In Ukraine - The Mineral Deal Pulls Trump Back In​

This week the U.S. and Ukraine signed a 'mineral deal'. It will allow the U.S. to profit from all future explorations of minerals and hydrocarbons in the grounds controlled by the Kiev regime.

The deal grew out of a scheme the (former) President Zelenski had peddled within the framework of his 'victory plan' last year. He had hopped to entice further support in form of weapons and even direct military intervention against Russia in exchange for some access to rare earth minerals in Ukraine. With the current deal Trump took the second part without offering any guarantee for providing the first.

What the now signed deal really entails is still unknown. The text of the framework agreement was published (in Russian) by the Ukrainian government. There are however two additional agreements which define the all important details.

The Ukrainian government claims that only the first part has been signed. The other two will follow only after the Ukrainian parliament, the Rada, has ratified the main one. Several 'western' media have contradicted that claim. All three parts of the agreement were signed. But the Ukrainian government is keeping the details of the second and third part secret because the conditions imposed by them are extremely bad for Ukraine.

As Strana has summarized (machine translation):

The document published by the Ukrainian government and signed yesterday does not contain any specifics on the fundamental aspects of the fund's activities.
In particular, the details of the fund's management and the decision-making mechanism for disposing of funds received by the fund are not specified.
...
There is only a reference to the fact that the distribution of shares in the fund, its management principles and other specific issues will be regulated by an additional limited partnership agreement, which, according to the Ukrainian authorities, has yet to be signed (recall, the American media write that it has already been approved).
...
In the published text of the agreement, the goal of the fund (Partnership) is extremely vague: "to become a flagship mechanism for encouraging transparent, accountable and future-oriented investments in critical sectors of the Ukrainian economy in support of the country's recovery strategy."

At the same time, the text of the agreement contains clear commitments on contributions to the fund from Ukraine (50% of the cost of new mineral development licenses), but does not contain specific commitments on contributions from the United States. There is also no commitment from Washington to continue military assistance. It is only written that if there are still arms deliveries, they will be counted as an American contribution to the fund.
The agreement will without doubt be used by the U.S. to rob Ukraine of whatever valuables it has left.

At the same time it does not commit the U.S. to do anything.

With this capitulation Zelenski has fulfilled everything the Trump administration had demanded from him for a ceasefire. The U.S. has, however, no means to press Russia into a ceasefire. President Putin and other Russian officials have made it clear that they have no interest in just stopping the fighting but want a long lasting peace agreement.

The Trump administration has neither the will nor the capabilities to negotiate and enter into long term peace agreement with Russia.

That is why it is now, on one side, washing its hands over the whole issue:

Secretary of State Marco Rubio indicated Thursday that a peace deal between Russia and Ukraine is still on the horizon but noted the eastern European nations are still very much at odds with “no military solution.”
“I think we know where Ukraine is, and we know where Russia is right now and where [Russian President Vladimir] Putin is. They’re still far apart,” he told Fox News’s Sean Hannity. “They’re closer, but they’re still far apart.”
Rubio essentially says: 'We got what we wanted. Now lets get out of here':

“There does come a point where the president has to decide how much more time at the highest levels of our government do you dedicate it, when maybe one of the two sides or both aren’t really close enough, when we have got so many, I would argue, even more important issues going on around the world, not that a war in Ukraine is not important,” the secretary of State said Thursday.
Vice President Vance confirmed that take:

U.S. Vice President JD Vance said Thursday evening that the Kremlin’s war in Ukraine is far from over and that it’s now up to Russia and Ukraine to end the fighting with Washington mulling a step back from peace talks.
“It’s going to be up to them [Russia and Ukraine] to come to an agreement and stop this brutal, brutal conflict,” Vance said during an interview with Fox News’ Bret Baier.

“It’s not going anywhere, Bret. It’s not going to end anytime soon,” he added.
Now, as the mineral deal is signed, the U.S. says it has no more responsibility for what happens in Ukraine.

But the mineral deal is also, on the other side, a trap to keep the U.S. committed to the war. As Yves Smith explains:

[O]ur prediction that this deal would be a spoiler as far as normalization of US-Russia relations look every bit as operative as we predicted from the get-go.
We had warned from the outset that the so-called Ukraine “raw earths” deal conflicted with the US agreeing to a settlement of the Ukraine conflict by creating an economic incentive for the US to support Ukraine in retaining as much territory as possible.
... To put it another way, the minerals pact was certain to be a source of conflict with Russia were it ever to get done. The fact that the Administration pursued the deal so aggressively said it valued a splashy but low to no value win over normalizing relations with Russia.
The U.S. may already be back to be fully committed to the war. As soon as the mineral deal was signed the State Department gave notice to Congress about a $50+ million weapon sale to Ukraine.

During the night from Thursday to Friday a large scale drone attack from Ukraine took place in Crimea. Last night another, ever larger attack took place. During the attack Ukraine used Storm Shadow cruise missiles which need U.S. intelligence based coordinates to reach their targets (machine translation):

For the first time since January, Russia announced a strike by British Storm Shadow missiles.
This is reported by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.

The ministry announced the downing of eight such missiles over the Black Sea.
...
The last time the Russian Federation officially reported on the Storm Shadow strike was almost three months ago-on January 15.

Also in Russia, a mass drone raid was reported on the Crimea (96 were shot down) and the Krasnodar Territory (47 UAVs were shot down). In addition, it is stated that 14 Ukrainian unmanned boats were destroyed in the Black Sea.

Recall that on the night of May 2 , the Crimea was also under a massive drone attack . Explosions were, in particular, in the areas of military airfields.
Without U.S. (and British) intelligence support the recent attacks by Ukraine would not have been possible.

This points to not yet public Trump decision to continue the war even though the U.S. has no chance to win.

Michael Brenner explains how Trump's 'malignant narcissism' has led to this outcome.

When Russia will launch its big Summer offensive after Victory Day on May 9, it will become very obvious that making peace with Russia would have been the more difficult but also more promising way to proceed.
 
“Trump once again stated that America can withdraw from negotiations on Ukraine.

He also said that this peace as a whole may be unattainable.”
 
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