Biden doesn't want to fight for 50,000 student loan relief. It's too hard

Anybody still blaming Biden or Dems is an idiot with an agenda
Like I said before: some mofos would rather vote or choose against their own self interest (or against something that might help their own) if they feel slighted just because they aren't benefiting. Even if the issue doesn't directly impact them negatively.

Would love to hear some big picture explanations on their POV.
 
Like I said before: some mofos would rather vote or choose against their own self interest (or against something that might help their own) if they feel slighted just because they aren't benefiting. Even if the issue doesn't directly impact them negatively.

Would love to hear some big picture explanations on their POV.
Your painful life and death is in their self interest. To look to the Supreme Court to remedy your needs as a black person in America is like asking a Fox to weigh in on the utility of a hen. I don’t view Brown vs BOE as a win for integration. I look at it as the annihilation of the black female educator economy to the white women who now own 90% of the marketplace.
 
Eleni Schirmer [@EleniSchirmer], writer and research associate with the Future of Finance Initiative at UCLA's Luskin Institute on Inequality and Democracy, on the legal battle being waged against relieving student debt


The long-simmering argument over student debt flared up last August when Biden unveiled his student debt relief plan. He promised to reduce federal student debt by $10,000 for borrowers earning up to $125,000 annually, and $20,000 for recipients of Pell Grants. But ever since, the president’s plan has been battered. Numerous lawsuits have been filed against the Biden administration, and over the past few days, both the House of Representatives and the Senate have passed a resolution to block the plan.

However, one of the toughest challenges to the plan has mostly evaded the media’s glare. Biden v. Nebraska was first filed last September in the Eastern Missouri U.S. District Court by six states: Nebraska, Arkansas, Iowa, Kansas, Missouri, and South Carolina. While five of the states’ cases have been struck down, Missouri remains. Eleni Schirmer is a writer, postdoc at Concordia University’s Social Justice Centre, and organizer with The Debt Collective. She recently co-authored a piece at the New York Times, "The Case Against Student Debt Relief Barely Even Pretends to Make Sense." This week, Schirmer speaks with Brooke about the research she and her team did to debunk the lawsuit's shaky claims, and the consequences of inadequate fact-checking at the Supreme Court.
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A better option is join a Union and get paid while you learn.

IBEW (Electrical Union) provides 900 hours classroom training and 8000 OJT for 5 years total.

Las Vegas IBEW 357 is paying over $50/hr for JourneyMen Electricians.

You come in at 18 years old, you set for life.

For those forgoing college, trade schools are increasingly becoming an option

by: Joshua Peguero
Posted: Jun 3, 2023 / 04:09 PM PDT
Updated: Jun 3, 2023 / 05:43 PM PDT


LAS VEGAS (KLAS) — Miquel Jones II wasn’t happy with his job after graduating from Basic Academy of International Studies.

“I didn’t really know what to do as a career. I was working in the kitchen originally before. I was like a prep cook and dishwasher,” Jones of Henderson said.

Jones knew college wasn’t for him, so the 23-year-old instead enrolled at the National Technical Institute. He is currently working as an engineer at Lake Las Vegas.

“I was never able to afford college and stuff like that, so I pretty much just went to trade school, which is more affordable,” Jones said.

Data from the National Student Clearinghouse shows an 8% drop in college enrollment from 2018 to 2022.

As college continues to get more expensive, some students are choosing to learn a trade instead such as plumbing or carpentry.

NTI has three different ways to earn a certificate: traditional, fusion, and immersion. Students also do hands-on training.

They can earn a certificate in at least three months and the trade school charges students between $6,000 to $10,000, depending on whether they study HVAC, plumbing, or electrical.

“Right now, there’s enough momentum that people are starting to realize that there’s a huge employment gap,” Kodi Wilson, campus director of NTI in Henderson, said. “When the pandemic happened, people were looking for essential jobs, and they deemed construction and service industry essential.”

Many students enrolled at a trade school are looking to switch careers. At 40 years old, Nolan Cordero made a leap of faith in learning HVAC.

Cordero said his previous job was backbreaking.

“Chainsaw work. Cutting wood. I mean it’s good money, but eventually your body can only last so long,” Cordero said.

But for students who have not yet graduated, there are several Clark County magnet schools, including Northwest Career and Technical Academy, that teach kids construction trades while in high school.

Despite the recent decline in college enrollment, US Census data shows there were 13 million more Americans with a bachelor’s degree in 2021 than there were in 2011.

 

President Joe Biden dismissed a Democratic plan to forgive up to $50,000 in student-loan debt."I will not make that happen," he said Tuesday, adding he didn't think he could do it unilaterally.The proposal was put forward recently by Sens. Elizabeth Warren and Chuck Schumer.

This country could end hunger, poverty, homelessness, and have free education for what they spent in Iraq/Afghanistan and now Yoo-Kang.
 
This country could end hunger, poverty, homelessness, and have free education for what they spent in Iraq/Afghanistan and now Yoo-Kang.
Couldn't have done all that, but it would have been better spent on that stuff here. But the American people so easily fooled. All that apple pie, iraq/afghanistan shit was crazy. Just like all the ukraine flags in the bio, cold war part 2 shit is crazy. American people always falling for a hustle to spend money on other shit but them. :smh:
 
Since the war began, the Biden administration and the U.S. Congress have directed more than $75 billion in assistance to Ukraine, which includes humanitarian, financial, and military support, according to the Kiel Institute for the World Economy, a German research institute.


The United States Department of Defense's direct spending on Iraq totaled at least $757.8 billion, but also highlighting the complementary costs at home, such as interest paid on the funds borrowed to finance the wars.

Human and Budgetary Costs to Date of the U.S. War in Afghanistan, 2001-2022. Since invading Afghanistan in 2001, the United States has spent $2.313 trillion on the war, which includes operations in both Afghanistan and Pakistan.
 
So, you're looking at about 1.2 trillion give or take to end hunger, poverty, homelessness and universal college in America, and that's taking the high end of the college figure and adding 5 billion just to round out the numbers.

Roughly half of what was spent in Afghanistan alone.

So yes, we absolutely could if those were our priorities as a society.
 
This country could end hunger, poverty, homelessness, and have free education for what they spent in Iraq/Afghanistan and now Yoo-Kang.

Yes, this country could. And it could do it right now.

But first, they have to figure out how to implement it without Black folks benefiting from it.

That’s why they are against this school loan forgiveness.


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Like I said before: some mofos would rather vote or choose against their own self interest (or against something that might help their own) if they feel slighted just because they aren't benefiting. Even if the issue doesn't directly impact them negatively.

Would love to hear some big picture explanations on their POV.

Are you being serious with your question?
 
In case there were any doubt, here's the budget for the Department of Defense for 2023 alone.


Each year federal agencies receive funding from Congress, known as budgetary resources . In FY 2023, the Department of Defense (DOD) had $2.01 Trillion distributed among its 6 sub-components. Agencies spend available budgetary resources by making financial promises called obligations .
 
In case there were any doubt, here's the budget for the Department of Defense for 2023 alone.


Each year federal agencies receive funding from Congress, known as budgetary resources . In FY 2023, the Department of Defense (DOD) had $2.01 Trillion distributed among its 6 sub-components. Agencies spend available budgetary resources by making financial promises called obligations .

What’s interesting about the DoD budget is when the Pentagon comes to Congress, they usually request lesser money for operations and new equipment.

Congress jacks it up so they can put more money towards the Defense Contractors building a shit load of equipment that isn’t needed or obsolete.
 
Are you being serious with your question?

Yup. I want to hear/see the real reasons these folks make the decisions that they do. And be held accountable for it. On a specific, case by case basis.

I'm aware everyone chooses in their own self interest, but if that's what it is than say so. Instead of telling stories and acting like they know what their talking about. Or worse: trying to sell others on some greater good theory.
 
Yup. I want to hear/see the real reasons these folks make the decisions that they do. And be held accountable for it. On a specific, case by case basis.

I'm aware everyone chooses in their own self interest, but if that's what it is than say so. Instead of telling stories and acting like they know what their talking about. Or worse: trying to sell others on some greater good theory.

Be more specific. "The real reasons these folks make the decisions that they do"?

Do you mean people who criticize the Democratic Party? Or those who refuse to vote Democratic? Or those who support the GOP? Or what?
 
Be more specific. "The real reasons these folks make the decisions that they do"?

Do you mean people who criticize the Democratic Party? Or those who refuse to vote Democratic? Or those who support the GOP? Or what?
Nah I'm talking about the real reason(s) for voting/being against student loan relief. Doesn't have to be party-specific.

Addendum: I would like to understand more about how it impacts these (seemingly) uninvolved individuals specifically.
 
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Nah I'm talking about the real reason(s) for voting/being against student loan relief. Doesn't have to be party-specific.

Addendum: I would like to understand more about how it impacts these (seemingly) uninvolved individuals specifically.

Oh well, that's simple. Old haters!! Like most of BGOL! Ol' "I had to pay so they should to" or "I didn't go to college" -ass niggas!! :lol:
 
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What I'm wondering is if the GOP was able to utilize a few "average Americans" to challenge the Biden student loan plan why can't Democrats find some individuals to challenge the PPL loan forgiveness granted to elected officials in court as well.

It may not be a case they can win but it would be a good countermeasure IMO.
 
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