Listened to the majority of it and will listen again.
She may not have been what we all like or would agree upon but fellas, this wasn’t a bad conversation between a couple. This was an exchange that two people have a chance to grow from. Growth in a relationship isn’t one and done. We can’t assume that a celebrity spouse always knows exactly what to say and HOW to say it at all times. Fellas, don’t just write off the marriage from one conversation.
That being said, I really do like where Joc was going with his statements and the need to keep things private. She says she would be open to talking about whatever but I think/assume outside of the conversation, she would feel different. At least, I hope she would because if she didn’t, then to me, that’s a sign of her priorities in how she lives life.