Why are Latinos and others groups trying to say they created Hip-Hop when it was really Black people?
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I’ll give you part of that. If your claiming that style is from Brooklyn then slick stole it from Dana dane cause according of to Wikipedia which is fir fun not accurate Dana dane is from Brooklyn. Not slick Rick. So maybe slick stole it from dana dane.
I deleted it cause I was wrong about the location which lead to my other post above. Which I will say the Bronx has no representation of the streets other than melle mell. Oh and coke la rock. At least until now
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Look I think you are getting confused with the Brooklyn sound term, because just becasue you lived in the Bronx doesn't mean you couldn't rock with the Brooklyn sound. I use that term to refer to the street and underground sound that came out after studios started watering down rap music, and most of those artist just happen to be from the bronx.
Here is an example of how the Bronx sold out their sound and style.
Think about it the Furious five went from this, old school BX street style
Brooklyn used to fuck with this.
To this.
in a few years. This is when they lost Brooklyn.
From this
to this
Basically the old Bronx rappers got weird looking and gay while Brooklyn stayed true to who they were.
Early early Hip Hop tracks contain elements of Latino music.
From the Plameras to the Guirro to the Bongos to the Pleneras
100%
I don't get why ya'll fighting against shit I SEEN & HEARD and I know what ya'll say is false
I don’t consider that a sell out. That was a developent stage. It was nothing to sell out toI at that time. Like I said queens changed that not Brooklyn. Thru run dmc. And they was hanging with Harlem dudes. Hustlers.Look I think you are getting confused with the Brooklyn sound term, because just becasue you lived in the Bronx doesn't mean you couldn't rock with the Brooklyn sound. I use that term to refer to the street and underground sound that came out after studios started watering down rap music, and most of those artist just happen to be from the bronx.
Here is an example of how the Bronx sold out their sound and style.
Think about it the Furious five went from this, old school BX street style
Brooklyn used to fuck with this.
To this.
in a few years. This is when they lost Brooklyn.
From this
to this
Basically the old Bronx rappers got weird looking and gay while Brooklyn stayed true to who they were.
You are comprehending it wrong.
He means that it was just as many Spanish people INTO Rap as Black people in the beginning
Which is TRUE.
Especially into Hip Hop CULTURE as a whole.
They wasn't invited dogz. They was RIGHT THERE
They was breakin, they was tagging (graffiti) and they was rappin
Shit, they had us beat in numbers at some dance events and ALWAYS in the Train Yards to Tag
From the streets this is how it looked li,like, especially to young kids who don't know better. But if you want to see the exact moment the guards officially changed, look at this.
Now Whodini was classic but they were considered a little soft, commercial and a little Hollywood, at the time they were on top of the world while RunDmc were snot nose upstarts, but after this Whodini were the old farts and RunDmc were officially on top fop of the game.
I cant front, I used to keep planet rock on the playlist... till I found out bambatta was bambatty..
I knew something was up with him when I seen him backstage at a run dmc beastie boy concert
at the palladium back in the day.. and he wasnt surrounded by NO Zulu nation, all fruity lookin
white dudes... I mean it was near the village but still, he wasnt reppin bronx at all bruh..
No your taking it wrong. From the start is close to claiming creating it. I didn’t say nothing about guest. I’m saying they have no claim to the elements. Which is the creation, the culture of it. I have no problem with contributions. I draw the line at creations.which is what I said earlier
For the record Bambatta is Jamaican
I’m 50. From the south Bronx Clinton ave. It changed when dmc brought the street element to it . Bronx had the creased Levi’s and pumas. They came with the creases and adidas Dum ditty ditty ditty ditty dum dum. And then came Peter piper. In that order. How old are you by the way
I'm 48 and lived in BX and Brooklyn, and I can tell you BX moved and thought a lot differently back then.
Actually it was a lot worse. This is a improvement. If I can direct you to a documentary with live footage from back then go and watch rubble kings.
The north Bronx was all white people back then which ran that area. The south Bronx was black and pierto Rican. And from the north to the south was all territorial gangs. Including the whites. And below the Cross Bronx there was no rules. At all
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That RUN DMC was doing in Here we go, was the shit Cold Crush used to do back when the Bronx was popping. But instead of embracing the talent, they had in the BX they buried their street talent, or forced them to sell out and water down their act. Back then rappers didn't even curse, but on the mix tapes, you can hear the real deal. Matter of fact Run was the first rapper to curse on wax, when he said "if you said you heard my rhyme we gonna have to fight because I just made the mother fucker rhyme last night " that was a throwback to Cold Crush and them when they stayed cursing on the mix tapes.
Cosign
Watch it. If you didnt. It shows the transition from the gangs to hip hop and why some Puerto Ricans started to mingle with the blacks and vice Vera’s. It wasn’t always that way.
No man. He NEVER said it....."he's close" is NOT saying it.
I was here from Day ONE. My Spanish friends ALL listened to Rap with me growing up. It was THEIR music too.
They was definitely a part of the whole culture and helped significantly.
Shit, I remember playing little league softball and the assistant coach (A Puerto Rican) had the Kool Moe Dee vs Busy Bee battle on tape and kept playing it for us. I was amazed cause it was the first time MC's battled and all the other Spanish
kids were amazed as well "50/50" cause it was just as many as them as of us.
It was his music too........Just like Fat Joe said
I have no idea where you from but I'm from NYC. Born and raised and Tariq Nasheed is NOT.
He has NO FUCKING CLUE what went on in the beginning of this culture. NOT ONE CLUE
I'm STILL waiting for all you to post a clip where he SAYS Latinos CREATED HIP HOP
Every clip so far is a dud.
He said the start. What’s the definition of start in the dictionary.
begin or be reckoned from a particular point in time or space
I saw a video of that pineapple headed, steroid using faggot, Busta Rhymes talking about the other Carribeans in his entourage. He was really taking shots at black Americans. He was saying no black Americans are in his click. He's a Caribbean supremacist. But yet he made his come up off Black American culture and was in John Singleton's movie, Higher Learning. This is what happens when you share with outsiders. That's sucker shit to shit on the people you made your come up off of after you've made it.
So your saying they’re 50 percent of the creation. The beginning.
crazy legs doesn’t even co-sign that.
sorry but we don’t believe you. You need more people
Again, we heard him time and time again say they "Contributed"
Never said they "created"
So, when he says they were THERE. It means they SAW, LISTENED and CONTRIBUTED from the start.
When he says 50/50 He means it was just as many Puerto Ricans as Black People around doing the above.
Again, never said THEY created Rap.
The Bronx was FLOODED with Spanish youth back then, just as many as us. (More now)
Ya'll all need to hush if you wasn't there to see. Seriously
Now BK & Queens might have a different journey.
There were NO RAPPERS from those Boros in the beginning. It was The Bronx & Harlem
I said it was 50 Percent AROUND
READ dog.
Look at this video, How many Spanish people you see?
Just as many as Black People. That's why Joe said 50/50
FYI - My Cousin at 2:05 and his brother at 18:28
Agreed. He was talking so reckless I'm forever fuck that coon now.
He spoke worse than fat Joe did to keep it 100.
I thought Victor Santiago, Jr aka Noreagan or N.O.R.E. comments were very interesting.
Particularly his interactions with members of the Latin Kings.
Start around 1:28:00
Particularly his interactions with members of the Latin Kings.
Start around 1:28:00
And now it's like 70% non Black "contributing" to hip-hop.
So in 40 years there will be another revisionist saying how cac harlow was there in a major way..
Niggas is typing from Oklahoma like they know what was going on in NYC in '75 or some shit. FOH with y'all 'Lil House On The Prairie' ass perspectives. Don't no one give af 
G'on ahead and dust off y'all MAGA hats and leave the hip hop lore to the niggas that know better
G'on ahead and dust off y'all MAGA hats and leave the hip hop lore to the niggas that know better
And now it's like 70% non Black "contributing" to hip-hop.
So in 40 years there will be another revisionist saying how cac harlow was there in a major way..
That's a whole different debate.
STILL wondering like your title says "other groups trying to say they started Hip Hop"
Where are your clips of that? Post it....
I wanna see who "else" you think is saying they created Hip Hop
Again, you ain't from NYC so you don't know WTF you talking about
have zero exposure to Hip Hop from the start. You just type. That's it
Concentrate on what went on in your town back then if anything
cause you know zero about the beginnings of Hip Hop
Thread is BS from it's "creation"
Maybe one day I will be able to figure out how Ken Burns made that documentary, "The Central Park Five."(2012) and how did
Ava DuVernay make "When They See Us?"
Ava DuVernay make "When They See Us?"
Spielberg wasn't alive yet he made a movie about the Jewish holocaust
Lucas never left earth yet he made a movie about outta space
BGOL's logic is that you had to have been there to speak on issues is one of the dumbest things I've seen on this site (that's saying A LOT).
Lucas never left earth yet he made a movie about outta space
BGOL's logic is that you had to have been there to speak on issues is one of the dumbest things I've seen on this site (that's saying A LOT).
A Latino History of Hip-Hop: Part 1
For the first of a two-part series on how Latinos have influenced hip-hop, we learn about the early years by talking to legends, and explore how New York City made it all possible.
www.npr.org
Talk about a sticky situation.
Thats makes sense, because jamaicans love them some
lightskin and becky bitches, almost as much as indians and arabs,
but they aint THAT obsessed..
They say bambatta liked the lightskin and spanish boys..
the funny thing is, rock steady crew, ken swift and doze,
werent even latino, they were mulatto...
Bruhs created it,
but UCLA makes a mullato the professor of Break Dancing..
thats how they replace us..
Or attempt to, You can never replace the original, only go
extinct trying!!
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