Thurman just needs to retire & STFU. He got washed by Pac, Crawford will knock him out
LOL, It was his pride. You don't beat the floor if you are hurt. I never been stopped so I can't tell you about that. But, I have got my ass beat. My teammate Tony Pruitt used to kick me in my ass everyday and I would be mad as hell. I was 12-13 and he was in his twenties. Eventually, I was able to sit his ass down. I know frustration. Getting you ass beat causes frustration. That is what Shawn Porter had after the second knock down. He wasn't hurt, but he was frustrated like a motherfucker.I thought Shawn was winning the fight too and I also don’t think he was badly hurt after the two knock downs. The two knock downs, I mean the two knock downs
I had to repeat it so that you know that he was getting up off of the mat from punches twice in a 30 second span. Something was hurt and it was more than his pride!
But no, I don’t think he was very hurt. I believe was frustrated because he got caught twice and he saw the writing on the wall.
As I've said several times, that wasn't a foregone conclusion, his father didn't know it would happen, he just wasn't willing to risk his son's health, that's understandable. What I don't understand is your position, you have said you've seen fighter's in worse shape than Porter, so what exactly did you see that made you believe it was hopeless for Porter? This was a close championship fight, why would you stop a fight when the fighter didn't appear to be hopelessly out of it, and wanted to continue?Yes the stoppage was justified because Jr was about to get TKO’s or knocked out. Either one was going to happen and Sr saw it.
You don’t and that’s ok.
Yeah he lost but he didn't get washed.Thurman just needs to retire & STFU. He got washed by Pac, Crawford will knock him out
As I've said several times, that wasn't a foregone conclusion, his father didn't know it would happen, he just wasn't willing to risk his son's health, that's understandable. What I don't understand is your position, you have said you've seen fighter's in worse shape than Porter, so what exactly did you see that made you believe it was hopeless for Porter? This was a close championship fight, why would you stop a fight when the fighter didn't appear to be hopelessly out of it, and wanted to continue?
Not really. That’s his boy. He knows him better than anybody. He made the executive decision that the probability of his son getting knocked down again in 1:21 was greater than him making it out the round, regardless of how bad he “didn’t” look to continue.Wow, Pops Porter gonna have to answer some tough questions.
They are both adults. One is the boxer, one is the trainer. If one had the blueprint for success and there is footage of your instruction not being followed, and it’s your son, it is going to frustrate you as a trainer and a Dad. He knows that they don’t have to be in that situation, and so does his son, but there they were.Kenny basically said Shawn had a hard head in training and it showed with him not following the fight plan as a result... way to kick your son when he's down, dad. Damn.
Not really. That’s his boy. He knows him better than anybody. He made the executive decision that the probability of his son getting knocked down again in 1:21 was greater than him making it out the round, regardless of how bad he “didn’t” look to continue.
Or they don't mind supporting the fighters they like. UFC 268 did big numbers, I don't follow UFC, so I don't know who are the biggest supporters of that sport?It shows Mexicans dont know how to work
their firesticks.... if they did them ppv numbers
would be much less
Or they don't mind supporting the fighters they like. UFC 268 did big numbers, I don't follow UFC, so I don't know who are the biggest supporters of that sport?
yea true but it doesnt change the fact....
this last fight poorly marketed, it shouldve been
all over social media, from instagram to worldstar..
marketing sucked big time for this fight..
He made the executive decision that the probability of his son getting knocked down again in 1:21 was greater than him making it out the round, regardless of how bad he “didn’t” look to continue.
10TH round, fighter down twice, more than two minutes left in the round, do you stop it?Yes the stoppage was justified because Jr was about to get TKO’s or knocked out. Either one was going to happen and Sr saw it.
10TH round, fighter down twice, more than two minutes left in the round, do you stop it?
When your head snaps back like that most refs will step in, Castillo appeared defenseless. The point is, Joe Goossen gave his fighter a chance to win.The ref stepped in too soon, Castillo didn’t even fall and Corrales fell twice.
Let Castillo fall, then let him get up and see what happens from there.
When your head snaps back like that most refs will step in, Castillo appeared defenseless. The point is, Joe Goossen gave his fighter a chance to win.
I'll give you his pops and you but you're going to have to show me the many people because I haven't seen too many people say good stoppage, Porter was clearly done.Yes Porter Jr could’ve came back and won, but myself, his Dad and many others didn’t see it that way.
You do what you have to do, so maybe Porter spits out his mouthpiece, maybe he accidently on purpose hits Crawford low, like Trinidad did after he was hurt against Vargas or maybe he grabs and holds and ties his man up for the rest of the round. The point is in a championship fight let the man fight.In all seriousness, he spit out his mouthpiece twice after both knockdowns. He barely made the 10 count the second time and he looked Waaaaaay out of it.
I'll give you his pops and you but you're going to have to show me the many people because I haven't seen too many people say good stoppage, Porter was clearly done.
You do what you have to do, so maybe Porter spits out his mouthpiece, maybe he accidently on purpose hits Crawford low, like Trinidad did after he was hurt against Vargas or maybe he grabs and holds and ties his man up for the rest of the round. The point is in a championship fight let the man fight.
You're really confusing because you keep going back and forth, on the one hand you say I understand why Kenny Porter stopped the fight, which as I've said several times I also understand but then you'll go on and say Porter wasn't going to get out of the round he was going to get KO'd, then when I point out what you said you say I'm only saying I understand why his father stopped the fight. You contradict yourself over and over including in this very post.I don’t think I said it was “Good stoppage”?
This is what I'm talking about you start the post by saying I don't think I said it was a good stoppage then you go on to say it was a good stoppage. You know the reason fights are stopped is to protect the fighter from more punishment, so when you say you're 99.9 percent sure he was going to be KO'd you're saying, good stoppage.It was a good stoppage for Porter Jr in that respect because Shawn was about to get knocked out or it was gonna be a TKO.
He wasn’t going to come back and win that fight and he wasn’t getting out of that round.
Yes he “Could’ve” turned it around because none of us can predict the future, but we’re 99.9 percent sure Porter Jr was getting knocked out or losing by TKO.
You're really confusing because you keep going back and forth, on the one hand you say I understand why Kenny Porter stopped the fight, which as I've said several times I also understand but then you'll go on and say Porter wasn't going to get out of the round he was going to get KO'd, then when I point out what you said you say I'm only saying I understand why his father stopped the fight. You contradict yourself over and over including in this very post.
What's confusing is you say good stoppage and then you deny saying good stoppage. Kenny Porter was not willing to see his son get hurt so he stopped the fight, I understand that but it was a bad stoppage because of the magnitude of the fight and Shawn Porter didn't seem to be visibly hurt and he wanted to continue.It’s not confusing, you not understanding that I can see both sides is what’s confusing. So to help you finally understand I’ll separate it for you.
REDLINE the boxing fan:
I would’ve liked Shawn’s Dad not to have stopped the fight to see what would’ve happened, even though I know Shawn was about to get knocked out.
REDLINE stepping back looking at the situation for what it was:
Jr was about to get his ass knocked out and possibly hurt so I can understand why his Dad stopped the fight.
That’s it, it’s not confusing or deep.