Columbus Ohio Bruhs...Im Seeing the Cops Just Murdered a 15 Year Old Girl Calling Them For Help....4.20

That's ok, you don't have to buy it. In that situation, 4 shots was not excessive. Excessive would have been standing over her and shooting her two more times after she was no longer a threat. A bad shoot would have been shooting her if she just had the knife in her hand and not going at anybody. Knife in hand, charging somebody though, multiple shots was not excessive.

Laquan in Chicago... that was a BAD shoot and excessive, because he had a knife, but was walking away and was not in an area where he was a threat to civilians. This was not that.
Dumb point; Excessive is shooting to Kill; whether they are standing over her or not; whether its a point blank range or not; he was shooting to kill; he wasnt shooting to prevent; he wasnt shooting to disable; he wasnt shooting to stop; he was shooting to kill; he saw a black person with a weapon and he shot to kill period!!! now if she is white, we aint having this discussion because sweet becky would be alive and the officer would be getting praised for deescalating the situation.....
 
The argument can't be it's tough to do the job so I didn't do it
If you can't do the job then don't be a police officer.
They are trained and held to a higher standard. It can never be how would we react to the situation
we weren't trained and paid to meet an expectation of calm and professionalism
They aren't deputies who were deputized by a random outlaw who came into the town
That sounds all well and good until it’s real life. Most departments allow for its officers to meet deadly force with deadly force, so folks expecting cops to jump into a wrestling match with somebody waving a knife when they can just fire a shot... Well that’s just unrealistic
 
Shoot her 4 times though 4 fucking times!!! Nah im not buying that...

Y'all need to watch the video again. After 2 shots she was still standing and still a threat to the girl in pink. If he had only fired one time, the girl still would have gotten stabbed.

He stopped firing once she was no longer a threat to the girl.
 
We should always question Lethal Force towards us period; I will always question excessive force towards us; it was excessive; 4 shots is shooting to kill period; not shooting to control, no shooting to stop, no shooting to deescalate; shooting to kill!! why is that ok?? and why is that ok towards us when countless of times, video after video, they never fire shots at whites!! so back to your question, I will feel a lot better with 1 shot to her body, not head; thats at least trying to stop her; maybe it kills her, maybe it doesnt; 4 shots though, come on!!!

Oh, for sure. I definitely question the use of lethal force/excessive towards us.

My question was mainly philosophical because I was interested in how you would distinguish the difference.

And you were honest by telling me how it made you feel, which I have no issues with whatsoever.

I agree and I understand your point of view.
 
She had the knife in her hand when she knocked the other girl down. I am sure he saw the knife then. The parents should have took the knife from her before the police pulled up.
The case is strange because of the timing with the verdict with the other case. Almost like people lost their minds and could be used. It was a text book case. Made them look like protectors. But we are still stuck in white propaganda.
 
You typically don't quote people when you're speaking in general.

Here's an example of me speaking in general

We need to kill Shaddy because he is a waste of space.


Here's me not speaking in general.



You should be smothered with a wet pillow that was drenched in gasoline and then set on fire.



see
You be on my Dilz tew much
 
Oh, for sure. I definitely question the use of lethal force/excessive towards us.

My question was mainly philosophical because I was interested in how you would distinguish the difference.

And you were honest by telling me how it made you feel, which I have no issues with whatsoever.

I agree and I understand your point of view.
Me personally though i just dont get how any black person can justify lethal force against us, when we see cops deal with whites completely different no matter how they act and or what weapons they have..
 
I won't get into insulting and calling what you say dumb.... but the fact is that they're supposed to, under the rules, use deadly force to take out a threat. That's the legal way they're supposed to use that kind of force. Many many times they use deadly force when it's NOT called for. ....but in this case it was.
Let's remember, another girl's life was saved because the one charging at her with a knife was taken out. Sad for her and her family, but in THIS case, it was a clean shooting.

Do cops treat black people differently than they do white people? Fuck yes, all the time.... and I'm as angry about that as anybody, and I distrust law enforcement for it and for the fact that they almost always put out initial reports that turn out to be lies or at the very least misleading.... but in this particular case, a girl was charging at another girl with a knife, and the officer did what they're supposed to do.



Dumb point; Excessive is shooting to Kill; whether they are standing over her or not; whether its a point blank range or not; he was shooting to kill; he wasnt shooting to prevent; he wasnt shooting to disable; he wasnt shooting to stop; he was shooting to kill; he saw a black person with a weapon and he shot to kill period!!! now if she is white, we aint having this discussion because sweet becky would be alive and the officer would be getting praised for deescalating the situation.....
 
That's great, and he did show a lot of restraint, because he would have been justified after getting stabbed. ...but one big difference.... the guy was running away , whereas the girl that got shot, was going towards the other girl, knife raised. She was an immediate threat to that other human life.

In a similar situation, but when Laquan Mcdonald did NOT stab a cop, he was taken out with multiple shots. That cop that shot him should have had this type of restraint, but that dude.... I'm pretty sure he charged in there with the intent to kill a black man.


I'm just gonna leave this right here.



Again, I'm not defending the girl but notice how this officer showed restraint even when being stabbed in the neck by a cac and still managed to switch from his gun to his taser in just seconds.
 
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Dumb point; Excessive is shooting to Kill; whether they are standing over her or not; whether its a point blank range or not; he was shooting to kill; he wasnt shooting to prevent; he wasnt shooting to disable; he wasnt shooting to stop; he was shooting to kill; he saw a black person with a weapon and he shot to kill period!!! now if she is white, we aint having this discussion because sweet becky would be alive and the officer would be getting praised for deescalating the situation.....

Bruh you are totally and completely hung up on the white cop/black victim angle....the FACT is he prevented a potential homicide of a young black woman. Is HER life not important?

Would the outcome have met your approval if he didn't shoot and the other young woman was murdered?
 
I'm just gonna leave this right here.



Again, I'm not defending the girl but notice how this officer showed restraint even when being stabbed in the neck by a cac and still managed to switch from his gun to his taser in just seconds.

I'll bite.....

Video shows a dude who is stopped and surprises the cop with a knife, stabs him and runs.

Cop has gun out in chase, changes it to taser.

Kid was running, had the cop shot him while the kid was running away from him, the cop would have been in trouble for shooting a suspect who's back was to him, hence, his restraint.

Yesterday's video, cop shows up while homegirl is in the action of attempting to stab the other girl.

He used his gun to immediately stop a possible stabbing.

More apples to oranges than a equal comparison.
 
Me personally though i just dont get how any black person can justify lethal force against us, when we see cops deal with whites completely different no matter how they act and or what weapons they have..

When do you see cops deal with whites? The media doesn't say shit when they get killed by police...wonder why.
This happened 3 days ago:

Suburban Minneapolis police shoot, kill alleged carjacker
BURNSVILLE, Minn. (AP) — Police in suburban Minneapolis shot and killed a man Sunday afternoon who was allegedly involved in a carjacking and fired shots at pursuing officers, according to a release from the Burnsville Police Department.

The release said officers encountered the suspect, believed to be a white man in his 20s, driving a vehicle with stolen plates in Burnsville, south of Minneapolis.
 
I'll bite.....

Video shows a dude who is stopped and surprises the cop with a knife, stabs him and runs.

Cop has gun out in chase, changes it to taser.

Kid was running, had the cop shot him while the kid was running away from him, the cop would have been in trouble for shooting a suspect who's back was to him, hence, his restraint.

Yesterday's video, cop shows up while homegirl is in the action of attempting to stab the other girl.

He used his gun to immediately stop a possible stabbing.

More apples to oranges than a equal comparison.
Why did he switch to taser when clearly the person had a deadly weapon and actually used it?

Wasn’t people arguing that cops use guns for deadly weapons and don’t use tasers when we have a vid of a cop doing the exact opposite of what people claim they don’t do?

There’s other vids like this when white people have knives are in violent situations and get tased
 
Why did he switch to taser when clearly the person had a deadly weapon and actually used it?

Wasn’t people arguing that cops use guns for deadly weapons and don’t use tasers when we have a vid of a cop doing the exact opposite of what people claim they don’t do?

There’s other vids like this when white people have knives are in violent situations and get tased
The suspect was fleeing.

Correct me if I'm wrong but police cannot shoot a suspect in the back if they are fleeing.

That's why I believe he switched up to the taser.

I still don't see this as a good comparison to yesterday's incident.

Again, one had the cop showing up in the heat of the moment and him reacting to save a live and stop a stabbing.

This video starts off relatively calm and changes to a foot race, after the cop is shockingly stabbed by the assailant.

Show me a video where a white dude is in the act of or about to stab someone and is tased instead....
 
The suspect was fleeing.

Correct me if I'm wrong but police cannot shoot a suspect in the back if they are fleeing.

That's why I believe he switched up to the taser.

I still don't see this as a good comparison to yesterday's incident.

Again, one had the cop showing up in the heat of the moment and him reacting to save a live and stop a stabbing.

This video starts off relatively calm and changes to a foot race, after the cop is shockingly stabbed by the assailant.

Show me a video where a white dude is in the act of or about to stab someone and is tased instead....
Go back and look at stories about mass shootings that include the news about the shooter being dead. Who do these folks think took down that shooter?
 
Me personally though i just dont get how any black person can justify lethal force against us, when we see cops deal with whites completely different no matter how they act and or what weapons they have..

I just dont get how any black person can encourage children to resort to violence to settle their differences. If any of the many grown-ups on the scene took a minute to diffuse the situation the young lady would still be with us.
 
Me personally though i just dont get how any black person can justify lethal force against us, when we see cops deal with whites completely different no matter how they act and or what weapons they have..

Nothing about any of this is as simple as we would like it to be.

We know there is hypocrisy in how white cops deal with white people versus black people. But there are examples of cops killing white folks when situations could have been handled differently.

We know there are situations where white people have done some crazy shit, and if the races were reversed, it would be a different outcome for us.

All of these are effects of systemic racism. This isn't anything new to us.

However, every situation is unique regardless of how we see racism, especially this one. Some people picture their child as the one about to get stabbed.

So it becomes less about race and more about being a parent. One less, two less, or three fewer shots could have ended up with the child being stabbed in the neck. We don't really know, except that four shots prevented a stabbing. Any scenario after that fact is hypothetical, but let's assume the cop fails to prevent the girl from stabbing the other resulting in death; what then? The discussions will shift to something totally different, but the race card will not be pulled in the same way because the cop didn't kill the black teen that stabbed the other black teen. It becomes a different discussion.

For me, it's hard to have any solid moral grasp on this particular situation. It's a total fail all around by everyone involved.
 
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:smh: Damn shame this young girl had to lose her life over this. Perhaps this situation would have ended with no fatalities if the girl in pink hadn't jumped into the fray.
 
if that were your daughter in the pink about to be stabbed what would you want?

Yup Just watched the video. It looked justified to me. If that was my loved one in the pink, I'd want the girl with deadly weapon in her hand stopped. She was literally seconds away from killing or seriously hurting her. Not everyone of these cop shootings are just racist cops. So many of them could be prevented.
 
if that were your daughter in the pink about to be stabbed what would you want?
No lethal engagement. Like several officers deploy tasers. Like 1 shot to injure or stopped. What if the cop hit the girl in the pink. Then what? What if the girl in the pink was your daughter and the cop shot her; how would u feel? But the girl who allegedly was about to get stabbed; was she participating or innocent bystander?
 
Nothing about any of this is as simple as we would like it to be.

We know there is hypocrisy in how white cops deal with white people versus black people. But there are examples of cops killing white folks when situations could have been handled differently.

We know there are situations where white people have done some crazy shit, and if the races were reversed, it would be a different outcome for us.

All of these are effects of systemic racism. This isn't anything new to us.

However, every situation is unique regardless of how we see racism, especially this one. Some people picture their child as the one about to get stabbed.

So it becomes less about race and more about being a parent. One less, two less, or three fewer shots could have ended up with the child being stabbed in the neck. We don't really know, except that four shots prevented a stabbing. Any scenario after that fact is hypothetical, but let's assume the cop fails to prevent the girl from stabbing the other resulting in death; what then? The discussions will shift to something totally different, but the race card will not be pulled in the same way because the cop didn't kill the black teen that stabbed the other black teen. It becomes a different discussion.

For me, it's hard to have any solid moral grasp on this particular situation. It's a total fail all around by everyone involved.
There are so many different outcomes agreed. But what if the cop hit the girl in the pink by mistake? What if the girl in the pink was your daughter and that happened? See the endless possibilities? Its all the way fucked up and your right it stems from racism. The real question is how many more have to die for this shit to change :smh: :smh:
 
No lethal engagement. Like several officers deploy tasers. Like 1 shot to injure or stopped. What if the cop hit the girl in the pink. Then what? What if the girl in the pink was your daughter and the cop shot her; how would u feel? But the girl who allegedly was about to get stabbed; was she participating or innocent bystander?
Fam, I don’t know if you’re a dad or not. But I am. And lemme tell you, I’m not about to gamble with my daughter’s life and tell cops to use non lethal force when somebody is about to stab her. Y’all getting too carried away trying to make a point
 
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