there is absolutely nothing about that party in its current state of the last 50 years that would suggest anything like that coming from them... the dems are dragging their feet big time for sure but at least there's progressive factions within the party that give some oxygen to the notion of reparations for ADOS and any black america agenda.
lets try it this was since this seems to be a concept you're unable to grasp.
but withhold your vote from the democrats...that'll teach them!!
feel better now? and its a bad analogy to boot.all dat shit by you
they did a federal prison reform bill under trump but that isn't for or solely effect just black people.
So giving away your vote without even a promise of a tangible is intelligent how?
threatening to not vote is not the threat you all think it is. Its just NOT..especially when you consider the only other viable major party is working to SUPPRESS your vote regardless.
Lolzthreatening to not vote is not the threat you all think it is. Its just NOT..especially when you consider the only other viable major party is working to SUPPRESS your vote regardless.
Is anyone happy with the current state of the democratic party? no. But the solution is to work to change the party to what you need and that is to primary motherfuckers and groom candidates at all levels. That process is slow for sure but its much more effective than withholding the vote. And that fact you and xfactor or VAiz4hustlaz and the other members of the lollipop guild have yet to bring that up or promote that is telling.
in your analogy, the mother is using only one method to get results
So mother Geechi should continue to give Young Geechi gifts and such?
she could adopt or get pregnant and have another kid and raise that one better than the first...
Think the rainbow brigade starts brining up republicans when they demanding shit from democrats for their support? Picture one of the LGBTQXYZ folks saying in rthe 2000s 
"Why you demanding gay marriage from democrats.What have the republicans offered?"
but withhold your vote from the democrats...that'll teach them!!
Why the fuck are cats talking about withholding votes?Why the fuck are cats talking about Republicans?
Shut the fuck up about republicans. No one is voting for them or really has for the last 50 fucking years. Damn.
Think the rainbow brigade starts bringing up not voting for people when theyre demanding shit from democrats for their support? Picture one of the LGBTQXYZ folks saying in the 2000s "We demand gay marriage from democrats. If they don't do that we won't vote for them in the hopes that losing enough elections will make them see the error of their ways! Meanwhile we gotta deal with all this anti gay shit (like bans from military service and allowing businesses to refuse services to us, etc) from the folks winning those elections!
but withhold your vote from the democrats...that'll teach them!!
Wifey be taking care of yo ass
The reality is the LGBTXYZ people didn't have an army of shills and apologists to deal with. Democrats have mastered the art of putting in tokens to appease the community. For over 50 fucking years, the community has been happy with tokens put into positions such as judge, mayor, congressperson, etc, while the community has stagnated.Why the fuck are cats talking about withholding votes?
"what about republicans!"
And in NO PART of that rant did you mention once that the LGBTXYZ folks used not voting as the go-to method for obtaining their goals. They put pressure on the party in OTHER WAYS but still voted to make sure the party that was the most agreeable between the two ONLY VIABLE MAJOR PARTIES IN THE FUCKING COUNTRY to their interests....stayed in a position make those things happen when the time comes. and the LGBTXZY fight for gay marriage etc took way longer than 17 years. Those people were openly marching since at least the 70s post civil rights era.The reality is the LGBTXYZ people didn't have an army of shills and apologists to deal with. Democrats have mastered the art of putting in tokens to appease the community. For over 50 fucking years, the community has been happy with tokens put into positions such as judge, mayor, congressperson, etc, while the community has stagnated.
The LGBTXYZ folks wanted RESULTS and got them. They got gay marriage. They then got Obama to flip. They've brought the entire democrat party to its knees in the last 17 years. They were able to do that because they don't have shills and apologists to contend with. No
Folks either get down with the agenda or are ran the fuck out. They operate LGBTQXYZ over everything. Black community operate democrat over everything. Feminists are another group that don't put party first. Jews don't put party first. Only folks who put party first are the black community and rednecks. Ironically, the 2 demos that get the fucking least from politics.
You have proven time and time again you don't get the concept of using voting power as leverage. You just want people to show up for the "I voted sticker" and then to STFU and take whatever comes.
They never had to make it to the 'not voting' threat because they didn't have to deal with apologists like yourself making excuse after fucking excuse for lack of action.
DamnThe reality is the LGBTXYZ people didn't have an army of shills and apologists to deal with. Democrats have mastered the art of putting in tokens to appease the community. For over 50 fucking years, the community has been happy with tokens put into positions such as judge, mayor, congressperson, etc, while the community has stagnated.
The LGBTXYZ folks wanted RESULTS and got them. They got gay marriage. They then got Obama to flip. They've brought the entire democrat party to its knees in the last 17 years. They were able to do that because they don't have shills and apologists to contend with. No
Folks either get down with the agenda or are ran the fuck out. They operate LGBTQXYZ over everything. Black community operate democrat over everything. Feminists are another group that don't put party first. Jews don't put party first. Only folks who put party first are the black community and rednecks. Ironically, the 2 demos that get the fucking least from politics.
You have proven time and time again you don't get the concept of using voting power as leverage. You just want people to show up for the "I voted sticker" and then to STFU and take whatever comes.
He's a D1 and it's disgusting and sad.
dude I'm not an apologist and I aint happy with the dems myself I'm just being a realist in what the options are. You guys go on rants and act like you have choices beyond blue or red when it comes downs to having to pull a fucking lever in a booth and the reality is those are your only choices. Its why people who aren't democrats or republicans (AOC, trump) have to join one of the major parties in order to get any traction politically.
They scared. Never seen ANYONE get ANYTHING done being fucking scared. Not willing to put SOMETHING on the table and risk it.
You operate from a position of fear. In 2004, you the type would have told your fellow LGBTXYZ
"But you're not being a realist. The polls are against gay marriage!!!! Don't put that on the ballot!!!You'll cost the dems the election!!!"
where have I said to NOT put shit on a ballot?? where have I said to not put pressure on elected officials? You just mentioned a tactic gays used and it succeeded but not just because of political pressure but social pressure as well. DL Hughley said it best..the reason gays got what they got isn't JUST because of political ball breaking its also because of shows like will and grace and ellen and other social tactics that moved the needle in public opinion. Obama went from scared to talk about gay marriage and legalizing marijuana to doing something about it when PUBLIC OPINION went from a hard no to meh...They scared. Never seen ANYONE get ANYTHING done being fucking scared. Not willing to put SOMETHING on the table and risk it.
You operate from a position of fear. In 2004, you the type would have told your fellow LGBTXYZ
Guess what? Putting gay marriage on the ballot on Ohio did help Bush. But it's all in the fucking game. They put THEIR MOVEMENT BEFORE PARTY. No apologies either. They just kept forcing the issue. Fuck if it hurts the dems.
Again, it's not about withholding the fucking vote. It's about applying constant pressure. Relentless. Not settling. Making them bend. Just like the LGBTQXYZ folks got 70-year-old politicians putting pronouns in their twitter profile. Just like Obama went from scared to speak on gay marriage to for it. How Biden was in his fucking 60s and not on any of that shit NOW he telling other countries to put that agenda first.
That comes from applying pressure, not settling, and not worrying about republicans.
