Joe Biden And Kamala Harris Administration To Face Real Test From African Americans On Racial Justice On Reparations BillI said this Before

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I said this Before and i will say it again.This will predetermine how the 2022 mid term elections pan out.The Democratic Party will be literally facing extinction behind this policy with the exception of the mass immigration.Like i said before reparations are going to be paid through money and land regardless of who is in office defacto.with or with out the blessings of the democrats.The democrats will be walking a tight rope in the coming days ahead and lets not act like the divorce proceedings between the democratic party and african americans or not in motion because they are, it was like that every since 2016 and even more so in 2020.Blank Tokenism and Pandering are not going to cut it anymore.African Americans have had a presence here in the continental United States for nearly 400 years or more,and the time has come now and not for later.This will have huge implications going ahead for the United States as a whole,so need for the Democrats putting it off in hopes that this issue it will go away because it wont.

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Reparations bill tests Biden and Harris on racial justice
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President Joe Biden supports the idea behind the bill. Vice President Kamala Harris endorsed it during her time in the Senate. But that might not be enough to get a proposal to study reparations for slavery to Biden's desk this Congress.

Despite the enormity of the task behind the legislation known as H.R. 40 — named for the "40 acres and a mule" that has come to symbolize the post-Civil War government's failure to help formerly enslaved people — the bill has new political momentum since its last introduction in 2019, when the GOP controlled the White House and Senate. The nationwide protests last summer following George Floyd’s killing have raised public awareness of racial injustice and kick-started a national conversation that advocates for a reparations dialogue see as valuable.


What no one knows yet is how committed the White House is to the specific House legislative vehicle, which has been introduced in every Congress for more than three decades and would establish a commission of experts to study direct payments to African Americans. The Senate introduced a companion bill for the first time during the 116th Congress, prompting a number of presidential candidates — including then-California Sen. Harris — to throw their support behind it.

Biden supported the idea of a reparations study during his own 2020 presidential bid but stopped short of fully endorsing the legislation itself. His administration did not testify at a Wednesday hearing in a House Judiciary Committee subpanel on the reparations measure, and White House press secretary Jen Psaki largely reiterated that stance Wednesday while stoppping short of full-throated backing for the bill.

"It's working its way through Congress," Psaki told reporters when asked if Biden would sign the bill should it pass. "We'd certainly support a study, but we'll see what happens through the legislative process."

House Democratic efforts to put the issue back on the party's agenda could nudge the White House to take a more direct position.

“It is clear ... that the Democratic Party leadership is in favor of this legislation,” said Kamm Howard, a witness in Wednesday’s hearing and national male co-chair of the National Council of Blacks for Reparations. “The President would have a duty to move the legislation that his party in Congress is favorable to."

Biden has garnered goodwill from Black activists and social justice advocates for moves early in his presidency that they say signal his commitment to taking racial equity work beyond talking points. In that vein, the White House pointed to the president's early executive action on racial equity as proof of his commitment to addressing systemic racism.

"The President knows that we don’t need a study to take action right now on systemic racism occurring today," one official said.

Even longtime proponents of reparations have acknowledged the challenges to getting the legislation passed. It is sure to face vehement pushback from Republicans in both chambers, dimming its chances given Democrats’ narrow majorities. Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell publicly opposed the idea of reparations in 2019, noting that his stance mirrored former President Barack Obama's.

“We are very much active in getting the number of co-sponsors and number of votes needed to pass the legislation out of the House. We know we’ll have a more difficult time in the Senate,” Howard said. “With the Democrats losing a few seats in the House, getting to [a majority] will be a little more difficult, but we think we can do it.”

If the legislation passes, it would create a commission of more than a dozen experts to review the United States government’s role in supporting enslavement of African Americans from 1619 to 1865 from financial and legal perspectives. It would then recommend to Congress ways to both educate Americans on the legacy of slavery and alleviate its harms.

Lawmakers demonstrated varying degrees of understanding of the legislation during Wednesday's hearing. A handful, including Reps. Burgess Owens (R-Utah) and Tom McClintock (R-Calif.), said they opposed using taxpayer funds to distribute reparations, which falls outside of the bill's current scope.

Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee (D-Texas), lead sponsor of the legislation, touted its growing support at Wednesday's hearing. But Owens, the ranking member on the Judiciary subpanel and its only Black Republican, opposed the reparations bill as "impractical and a non-starter."

Owens said he saw reparations as a quasi-socialist redistribution of wealth program and instead proposed changes in education and health care policy with a focus on Black youth.

"It is also unfair and heartless to give Black Americans the hope that this is a reality," Owens continued.

Black Americans comprise 13 percent of the nation’s population but constitute less than 3 percent of its wealth. While advocates for reparations sense a new opening during the Biden administration in the face of more overt recent racial injustice, they also have incorporated centuries of systemic inequities against African Americans into their argument to pass the bill. Several cited Jim Crow laws, discriminatory housing practices, and a justice system that has disproportionately impacted Black communities through mass incarceration and police violence.

Even so, H.R. 40's progress remains in the early stages, and the bill will have to compete for attention with higher-profile proposals that also would help Black communities grappling with systemic economic disadvantage. Chief among them is Biden’s $1.9 trillion pandemic relief bill, which includes provisions for minority-owned businesses and health care centers in neighborhoods of color.

Democrats also have supported smaller-scale solutions to take the place of direct payments to African Americans. Harris, for one, proposed a tax credit in 2018 that would provide financial relief to middle and low-income Black households.

But advocates for pursuing the reparations conversation say those narrowed proposals shouldn't be a substitute for studying the sweeping concept of restoring what slavery robbed from generations of African Americans. The coronavirus’ outsized toll on the Black population and last summer’s protests have only added to their interest in pressing Biden, making H.R. 40's traction in this Congress a fresh test of the new president's commitment to delivering for Black communities.

“The remedy is very specific to the harms that have been experienced and that people are still suffering from,” said Dreisen Heath, a program advocate at Human Rights Watch who's set to testify at Wednesday’s hearing.

William Darity, a professor of public policy at Duke University whose work has focused heavily on reparations, said that if Democrats’ goal is to close the racial wealth gap, a handful of individual programs will not achieve it.

“We're talking about moving from about two-and-a-half trillion dollars to $13 trillion in wealth among Black Americans,” Darity said. “So I'd like to see how each of these individual initiatives would actually do that. And I've never seen anybody actually demonstrate that in any kind of convincing way.”

Howard, who also will testify at Wednesday’s hearing, pointed to the fact that H.R. 40 has the most co-sponsors in its history — 173 Democrats — and support from Democratic leaders as a sign that the bill has staying power.

Whether or not the bill can get Biden's endorsement and later signature, reparations experts see the next four years as their best shot at making progress on the issue, either via direct payments or acknowledgment of the legacy of slavery — something the U.S. government has not formally done before.

“Insofar as we're finally having a national conversation about reparations, and insofar [as] there appears to be evidence of growing support for reparations for Black Americans,” Darity said. “I think we have to do it the right way."

 

geechiedan

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I asked this question before and still waiting for an answer:


BETWEEN THE TWO PARTIES DEMOCRAT AND REPUBLICAN...IN YOUR ESTIMATION WHICH PARTY IS LIKELIER TO ADVANCE THE CAUSE OF REPARATIONS FOR ADOS AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE?

BETWEEN LEFT WING AND RIGHTWING...
IN YOUR ESTIMATION WHICH SIDE OF THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM IS LIKELIER TO ADVANCE THE CAUSE OF REPARATIONS FOR ADOS AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE?

HOW DOES NOT VOTNG FOR THE TOP OF THE TICKET INFLUENCE OR ADVANCE THE CAUSE OF REPARATIONS?

WHAT'S YOUR HONEST ESTIMATION AND TIMELINE FOR GETTING REPARATIONS DONE?? HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT WILL TAKE
 

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I asked this question before and still waiting for an answer:


BETWEEN THE TWO PARTIES DEMOCRAT AND REPUBLICAN...IN YOUR ESTIMATION WHICH PARTY IS LIKELIER TO ADVANCE THE CAUSE OF REPARATIONS FOR ADOS AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE?

BETWEEN LEFT WING AND RIGHTWING...
IN YOUR ESTIMATION WHICH SIDE OF THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM IS LIKELIER TO ADVANCE THE CAUSE OF REPARATIONS FOR ADOS AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE?

HOW DOES NOT VOTNG FOR THE TOP OF THE TICKET INFLUENCE OR ADVANCE THE CAUSE OF REPARATIONS?

WHAT'S YOUR HONEST ESTIMATION AND TIMELINE FOR GETTING REPARATIONS DONE?? HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT WILL TAKE
i dont know which party is likely to get it done,but i will say this the Democratic party depends heavily on African Americans.The democratic party is facing real life extinction right now more so than what the GOP is and this issue alone could cost them there entire base.The democrats are probably hoping that mass immigration could replace the african american voting block and that alone my friend is a risky gamble to take.What if it backfires.?
 

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The Dems already know they're gonna get housed in 2022. They dont care, thats why they rushing shit now, they know it's a wrap soon.

Truthfully "Black immigrants" are our biggest hurdle. Its already been 3 to post in here and they not eligible nor should it concern them. Yet they instinctively try to shit on reparations to our people. Black Americans need to cancel "Black immigrants" first before we can deal with reparations. Which is already in motion.
 

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Ooooo another thread of the ADOS coons talking to themselves and no one else.

Y'all so desperately trying to be relevant.
let me have your reparations check then.

cause between you and your wife y’all make 150k
 

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i dont know which party is likely to get it done,but i will say this the Democratic party depends heavily on African Americans.The democratic party is facing real life extinction right now more so than what the GOP is and this issue alone could cost them there entire base.The democrats are probably hoping that mass immigration could replace the african american voting block and that alone my friend is a risky gamble to take.What if it backfires.?
I'm talking political realities of the parties and how they function and what our options are. We can talk about how dems may render themselves extinct by alienating the black vote but where are we gonna go then?? In all the arguments and counterpoints about how horrible the dems are NO ONE Is offering even a slight point about how the other viable major party has something, anything that's favorable to blacks in terms of black america (ADOS) agenda.

In fact all those people expressly say the republican has nothing to offer black people in terms of specific agenda issues.

So is it in our best interest that the only major party to even entertain ANYTHING reparations wise be allowed to fall apart?
 

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i dont know which party is likely to get it done,but i will say this the Democratic party depends heavily on African Americans.The democratic party is facing real life extinction right now more so than what the GOP is and this issue alone could cost them there entire base.The democrats are probably hoping that mass immigration could replace the african american voting block and that alone my friend is a risky gamble to take.What if it backfires.?

It's a growing number of black folks waking up but that number is still far too low to concern the Dems right now.

The only thing I will say about the dems is they need to cut checks to maintain power, most of us don't care about them if we aren't getting paid.

I do want to see the dems perish though honestly and that's a fact.

But it won't happen no time soon, still alot of older black folks and highly educated black folks who don't face no issues like that and live well so they just vote Dem hoping for a seat at the table and they good.
 

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I asked this question before and still waiting for an answer:


BETWEEN THE TWO PARTIES DEMOCRAT AND REPUBLICAN...IN YOUR ESTIMATION WHICH PARTY IS LIKELIER TO ADVANCE THE CAUSE OF REPARATIONS FOR ADOS AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE?

BETWEEN LEFT WING AND RIGHTWING...
IN YOUR ESTIMATION WHICH SIDE OF THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM IS LIKELIER TO ADVANCE THE CAUSE OF REPARATIONS FOR ADOS AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE?

HOW DOES NOT VOTNG FOR THE TOP OF THE TICKET INFLUENCE OR ADVANCE THE CAUSE OF REPARATIONS?

WHAT'S YOUR HONEST ESTIMATION AND TIMELINE FOR GETTING REPARATIONS DONE?? HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT WILL TAKE



Where was all this push and these reparations threads aimed at Trump and the Republicans in the past 4yrs?
 

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It's a growing number of black folks waking up but that number is still far too low to concern the Dems right now.

The only thing I will say about the dems is they need to cut checks to maintain power, most of us don't care about them if we aren't getting paid.

I do want to see the dems perish though honestly and that's a fact.

But it won't happen no time soon, still alot of older black folks and highly educated black folks who don't face no issues like that and live well so they just vote Dem hoping for a seat at the table and they good.

The HIICs and ball scouts of the world are old. They not gonna be around much longer and they have 0 influence with the younger generation. What hurts the Dems aint so much us not supporting them, its that CACs aint gonna support them. They losing they "progressive" base too and a lot of CACs is fucked up economically right now. Their problems are deeper than with just us.
 

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It's hard reading your posts on politics man.... it really is and I know you a smart cat doing well but your political points got me ready to go outside and smoke a cigarette

bruh:hithead:

He's a West Indian immigrant. Their job is to undermine reparations. ADOS has stated this for over 2 years and they always prove us right. There are more West Indians in this thread than actual Black Americans.
 

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It's a growing number of black folks waking up but that number is still far too low to concern the Dems right now.

The only thing I will say about the dems is they need to cut checks to maintain power, most of us don't care about them if we aren't getting paid.

I do want to see the dems perish though honestly and that's a fact.

But it won't happen no time soon, still alot of older black folks and highly educated black folks who don't face no issues like that and live well so they just vote Dem hoping for a seat at the table and they good.
No buddy.You all the way incorrect in that regards.Donald Trump saw an at least 12% percent increase among African american votes.facts,and dont even try to show me anything that states other wise im not trying to see nor hear it.Im just simply not in any kind of mood to be arguing with a brick wall.Because i know way better.Now remember Donald Trump didnt need all of the african american vote to carry him over the hump.Donald Trump was damn near working with all of white america alone.The Democratic cant go around screaming and touting that they had all of the White working class because they didnt.The democrats are taking a risky gamble of having America possibly turn into one party rule.
 

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No buddy.You all the way incorrect in that regards.Donald Trump saw an at least 12% percent increase among African american votes.facts,and dont even try to show me anything that states other wise im not trying to see nor hear it.Im just simply not in any kind of mood to be arguing with a brick wall.Because i know way better.Now remember Donald Trump didnt need all of the african american vote to carry him over the hump.Donald Trump was damn near working with all of white america alone.The Democratic cant go around screaming and touting that they had all of the White working class because they didnt.The democrats are taking a risky gamble of having America possibly turn into one party rule.

Not arguing with you bro, Trump got 18% of the AA community and that's pretty good for the GOP and yes there is a group that's waking up not to mention Trump got almost 40% hispanics too...

Not arguing with ya, you on point mostly....
 

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No buddy.You all the way incorrect in that regards.Donald Trump saw an at least 12% percent increase among African american votes.facts,and dont even try to show me anything that states other wise im not trying to see nor hear it.Im just simply not in any kind of mood to be arguing with a brick wall.Because i know way better.Now remember Donald Trump didnt need all of the african american vote to carry him over the hump.Donald Trump was damn near working with all of white america alone.The Democratic cant go around screaming and touting that they had all of the White working class because they didnt.The democrats are taking a risky gamble of having America possibly turn into one party rule.
and what does that mean for black america???
 

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and what does that mean for black america???

What do you want it to mean.?I have already told you reparations are going to be paid regardless and thats facts.Regardless to which ever party is taking the lead.But however i will state this.It would not be a good look for the Democratic party if a GOP lead US Presidency/House or even Senate pass a bill for reparations.Because that would be symbolism in the highest form.Imagine that.The nation/union started with a Republican and now its coming to its ending with a Republican on slavery reparations.
 

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He’s a west Indy block head.

Notice his name is Darrkman instead of Blackman.

I be peepin shit

Hahahaha.

Try again.

I love how simple you dudes in here turn out to be.
 

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What do you want it to mean.?I have already told you reparations are going to be paid regardless and thats facts.Regardless to which ever party is taking the lead.But however i will state this.It would not be a good look for the Democratic party if a GOP lead US Presidency/House or even Senate pass a bill for reparations.Because that would be symbolism in the highest form.Imagine that.The nation/union started with a Republican and now its coming to its ending with a Republican on slavery reparations.
theres a lot of stuff to unpack in that statement....

1. what does reparations look like to you because if/when it's done I can guarantee you it won't look like anything anyone will be happy with.
2. There is nothing at this point in time and in the forceseeable future that would indicate that there is any faction or person that would champion the notion of reparations for african americans coming out of the GOP in any way.
3. the nation/union started with a republican who made this statement:
“I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races … I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of Negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races from living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be a position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race.”
-Lincoln 1858

soo theres that...
 

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Herschel Walker tells Congress Black Americans shouldn’t get reparations



“We use black power to create white guilt. My approach is biblical: how can I ask my Heavenly Father to forgive me if I can’t forgive my brother?” the former Dallas Cowboys star told a House Judiciary Committee subcommittee.

“America is the greatest country in the world for me, a melting pot of a lot of great races, a lot of great minds that have come together with different ideas to make Americans the greatest country on Earth. Many have died trying to get into America. No one is dying trying to get out,” he said.

“Reparations, where does the money come from? Does it come from all the other races except the black taxpayers? Who is black? What percentage of black must you be to receive reparations? Do you go to 23andMe or a DNA test to determine the percentage of blackness? Some American ancestors just came to this country 80 years ago, their ancestors wasn’t even here during slavery. Some black immigrants weren’t here during slavery, nor their ancestors. Some states didn’t even have slavery.”

Walker, a 1982 Heisman Trophy winner who started his pro career with the fledgling USFL New Jersey Generals, owned by Trump, also played in the NFL for the Vikings, Eagles and Giants. He was the most famous witness at the hearing for House Resolution 40, which would create a commission to study the issue. The bill is sponsored by Texas Democratic Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee.

Rep. Steve Cohen (D-Tenn.) quoted attorney Charles Ogletree, who said the final result of the commission “may not be the 21st century equivalent of 40 acres and a mule. The 21st century equivalent, he said, was an SUV and a condo.” Rep. Jerry Nadler (D-NY) said that it’s possible reparations would not be financial payments.

Walker, 58, said that he spoke to his mother to get her opinion before the hearing.

“I asked my mom, who is in her mid 80s, her thoughts on reparations. Her words: I do not believe in reparations. Who is the money gonna go to? Has anyone thought about paying the families who lost someone in the Civil War, who fought for their freedom?” Walker said.

The football star said that his mother told him that reparations are akin to the proverb about giving someone a fish rather than teaching them how to fish for themselves.

“Reparation is only feeding you for a day. It is removing a sign ‘for whites only’ and replacing it with the sign ‘no education here,’ ” he said.

Walker also questioned who was at fault for slavery.

“Who is the guilty party? Should we start at the beginning where African Americans sold your African American ancestors into slavery? And to a slave trader who eventually sold African American ancestors to slave owners?” he said.


 

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theres a lot of stuff to unpack in that statement....

1. what does reparations look like to you because if/when it's done I can guarantee you it won't look like anything anyone will be happy with.
2. There is nothing at this point in time and in the forceseeable future that would indicate that there is any faction or person that would champion the notion of reparations for african americans coming out of the GOP in any way.
3. the nation/union started with a republican who made this statement:
“I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races … I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of Negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races from living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be a position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race.”
-Lincoln 1858

soo theres that...
Reparations more than likely will come in the form of land transfer,money(and not fiat paper currency nor crypto currency either)but real hard tangible money.That is more than likely what it's going to look like.You can bet your house on that with confidence.Like i said before i dont know which faction will be for or against reparations.it doesnt really even matter,reparations are going to be paid regardless of who likes it or not.The only thing that i stated that it wouldnt be a good look if a GOP lead house/senate or administartion were to sign it.The democrats may sign it for all i know,but the one thing that i do know for sure its guaranteed going to happen regardless.
 

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Reparations more than likely will come in the form of land transfer,money(and not fiat paper currency nor crypto currency either)but real hard tangible money.That is more than likely what it's going to look like.You can bet your house on that with confidence.Like i said before i dont know which faction will be for or against reparations.it doesnt really even matter,reparations are going to be paid regardless of who likes it or not.The only thing that i stated that it wouldnt be a good look if a GOP lead house/senate or administartion were to sign it.The democrats may sign it for all i know,but the one thing that i do know for sure its guaranteed going to happen regardless.
land transfer?? explain how that would work..
 

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@Darrkman is a pro-white immigrant that is afraid he’ll be bottom rung again after the Aboriginal American prisoners of war / so-called native blacks get reparations. If I was him I would be upset too, knowing I left my shithole country to come here to the US to pillage, just to become bottom rung again.

the Democrats already know this is the end which is why they want to form the old “Democratic-Republican” party, which you saw the pro-white @mcguyver already admit to joining.
 

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Reparations more than likely will come in the form of land transfer,money(and not fiat paper currency nor crypto currency either)but real hard tangible money.That is more than likely what it's going to look like.You can bet your house on that with confidence.Like i said before i dont know which faction will be for or against reparations.it doesnt really even matter,reparations are going to be paid regardless of who likes it or not.The only thing that i stated that it wouldnt be a good look if a GOP lead house/senate or administartion were to sign it.The democrats may sign it for all i know,but the one thing that i do know for sure its guaranteed going to happen regardless.

Can you think of a scenario that would move the GOP to run on and then sign reparations for ADOS?

Serious question, no trolling.
 
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