Study shows that ADOS was trying to get Black people to adopt a far right agenda

[xfactor]

The only question I have (because I don’t take propaganda serious):

is the OP @Darrkman a so-called black man / Aboriginal American prisoner of war descendant? He talks about us that are like he is from a different nation of people.

He venerates a character stolen by a Neanderthal (George Lucas) from Kemetic god Osiris in his avatar so he is automatically suspect.

 

[KingTaharqa]

What do you mean when you write "immigrants support white supremacy"?

Racism/white supremacy is a global system that is maintained directly by white people and indirectly by black people.

Immigrants are on board with white supremacy. Tell me a group of immigrants that led a violent revolution against whites anywhere on the planet? Racism/white supremacy is directly maintained in Africa by Africans. Whites dont live there. Africans and melenated immigrants can be white supremacists just like whites. You dont have to be white to believe the white man is Godly.

 

[KingTaharqa]

The only question I have (because I don’t take propaganda serious):

is the OP @Darrkman a so-called black man / Aboriginal American prisoner of war descendant? He talks about us that are like he is from a different nation of people.

He venerates a character stolen by a Neanderthal (George Lucas) from Kemetic god Osiris in his avatar so he is automatically suspect.

OP is a "fair skinned" Caribbean immigrant in a sanctuary city. He is not a Black man. He is insecure about his perceived blackness which is why he chose the screen name "Darkkman" to overcompensate.

 

[mangobob79]

What do you mean when you write "immigrants support white supremacy"?
Racism/white supremacy is a global system that is maintained directly by white people and indirectly by black people.

#ados supports white supremacy by their daily actions ! they're probably a greater tool for WhiteSupremacists like black #ados congressmen & politicians like BenCarson,Tim Scott, Sheriff David, Allen ,etc who prop up white supremacy & who help kill other black people like black drug dealers & gangs

 

[zod16]

then lets keep it there and utilize & recruit alliances from countless foreign black people & groups who like to see all black people win! unless u feel the only way to achieve the objectives is to not vote & be xenophobic about foreign blacks or black americans with recent foreign roots!

Isn't that the crux of the matter though? If you strip away all the bullshit surrounding this, and there is a lot of it, isn't the issue still whether or not the US government should pay reparations to all "Black" Americans and not just the descendants of slaves?

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

then lets keep it there and utilize & recruit alliances from countless foreign black people & groups who like to see all black people win! unless u feel the only way to achieve the objectives is to not vote & be xenophobic about foreign blacks or black americans with recent foreign roots!

Had and has nothing to do with not voting. It isn't unreasonable to ask for MORE for your vote
We literally just saved this country twice in 2 months.
The feeling of hope is 100% because ADOS voted to save everyone. If you save everyone asking for something or to be looked out for too isn't too much of an ask.
Gone are the days of saving shit and just be grateful for it.

Also by and large in my experience black americans don't give a fuck if you're foreign or foreign rooted black.
It's those that have that ancestry who have been quick to be like NO I'm actually THIS or I'm from HERE (whatever place) when being grouped in with us.
We all the same to me but WE haven't been treated fairly by anyone.

 

[mangobob79]

Isn't that the crux of the matter though? If you strip away all the bullshit surrounding this, and there is a lot of it, isn't the issue still whether or not the US government should pay reparations to all "Black" Americans and not just the descendants of slaves?

refer back to

Study shows that ADOS was trying to get Black people to adopt a far right agenda

You said you admire Trump and was envious of people in his circle. That's a lie.

www.bgol.us

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Isn't that the crux of the matter though? If you strip away all the bullshit surrounding this, and there is a lot of it, isn't the issue still whether or not the US government should pay reparations to all "Black" Americans and not just the descendants of slaves?

They shouldn't though.
U.S. should pay for the people they did it too and every place should follow suit whoever you did it you pay for your crimes.

 

[alexw]

Had and has nothing to do with not voting. It isn't unreasonable to ask for MORE for your vote
We literally just saved this country twice in 2 months.
The feeling of hope is 100% because ADOS voted to save everyone. If you save everyone asking for something or to be looked out for too isn't too much of an ask.
Gone are the days of saving shit and just be grateful for it.

Also by and large in my experience black americans don't give a fuck if you're foreign or foreign rooted black.
It's those that have that ancestry who have been quick to be like NO I'm actually THIS or I'm from HERE (whatever place) when being grouped in with us.
We all the same to me but WE haven't been treated fairly by anyone.

but if the group that ran ados had their way
trump would be in the white house right now
thats the point of the article
they were literally telling people to not use their vote at all
thats beyond dangerous and very much suspect

 

[KingTaharqa]

Not 1 Black American has come in this thread to speak against ADOS. Its been all immigrants and white people, thats not good a sign for immigrants going forward, shit is bout to get real ugly.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

but if the group that ran ados had their way
trump would be in the white house right now
thats the point of the article
they were literally telling people to not use their vote at all
thats beyond dangerous and very much suspect

I understand what you're saying but I never subscribed to the group.
ADOS is just a factual term to describe us just like mainstream is using BIPOC and other groups have their terms.
It's a fact not an ideology for me.
I don't cosign what they do anymore than we call ourselves american and cosign what america does in other countries.

 

[zod16]

but if the group that ran ados had their way
trump would be in the white house right now
thats the point of the article
they were literally telling people to not use their vote at all
thats beyond dangerous and very much suspect

That is what I have been saying about all of this. Propagandists take a small truth and try to run with that to advance a wild agenda. No serious adult could possibly believe We would be better off by not voting and ending up with 4 more years of Trump and I am far from a Biden/Harris backer. What I am yet to understand is what is the source of disagreement on reparations for descendants of slaves? If we take away the "don't vote" morons, it doesn't seem like people are really disagreeing now when previously it seemed that a lot non-descendants of slaves were opposed. Am I missing something ?

 

[mangobob79]

Had and has nothing to do with not voting. It isn't unreasonable to ask for MORE for your vote
We literally just saved this country twice in 2 months.
The feeling of hope is 100% because ADOS voted to save everyone. If you save everyone asking for something or to be looked out for too isn't too much of an ask.
Gone are the days of saving shit and just be grateful for it.

Also by and large in my experience black americans don't give a fuck if you're foreign or foreign rooted black.
It's those that have that ancestry who have been quick to be like NO I'm actually THIS or I'm from HERE (whatever place) when being grouped in with us.
We all the same to me but WE haven't been treated fairly by anyone.

first all black people came together to save this country this recent past few months & years and yes since AfricanAmericanDescendantOfAmericasEnslvedAfricans are the majority of blacks in this country it goes without saying that majority of the votes would come from them , infact listening to #ados & tariq would make alot of #ados not have voted!! so i dont get where the desire to b xenophobic comes from , if it aint some clear rightwing agenda with provable paper trail !
once again people are saying lets move this thing forward and actually get some work done but there's a group of people who keep puling & holding us back, who feel they cant achieve greatness without being xenophobic ! no strategy no politic just thinking u can bully people online and be xenophobic will get u allies & success!
do u think any movement succeeds without strategy & allies? u refer to some wanting to self identify ! which group of powerful coon blacks r against that? and why focus on that? isnt the issue reparative justice for AfricanAmericanDescendantOfAmericasEnslvedAfricans ? what r u more concerned about some nameless powerless black or white troll black facing online or actual progress ?
its like Dr King spending his time arguing with AfricanAmericanDescendantOfAmericasEnslvedAfricans coons who were against the civil movement, dont tell me u think every single black person was with DrKing?

 

[KingTaharqa]

That is what I have been saying about all of this. Propagandists take a small truth and try to run with that to advance a wild agenda. No serious adult could possibly believe We would be better off by not voting and ending up with 4 more years of Trump and I am far from a Biden/Harris backer. What I am yet to understand is what is the source of disagreement on reparations for descendants of slaves? If we take away the "don't vote" morons, it doesn't seem like people are really disagreeing now when previously it seemed that a lot non-descendants of slaves were opposed. Am I missing something ?

Immigrants completely disagree with reparations to Black Americans. They dont support it here, nor do they support reparations initiatives in Africa or the Caribbean. Immigrants in the US are capitalists and fans of white supremacy. Anything that will hurt white people's pockets, they are against.

There isnt 1 thread created by an immigrant on BGOL in 2 years that promoted the idea of reparations to ADOS, most immigrants on BGOL dont even view Black Americans as a distinct ethnic group. And they know these are racist sentiments because they are NEVER expressed publicly only on the internet where its "safe".

There are no group of melenated immigrants speaking publicly against ADOS offline. 0.

 

[Mello Mello]

Just becos u claim something without proof doesnt make it real ! imagination is a muhtha! TRUMP VOTER MUCH?

What does that have to do with what I said?

And you just called me a trump voter? Fuck outta here.

 

[mangobob79]

They shouldn't though.
U.S. should pay for the people they did it too and every place should follow suit whoever you did it you pay for your crimes.

bruh!! no one ! and i mean no one disputes this ! the fake manufactured narrative that a powerful group of foreign blacks or black americans with foreign roots are purposely undermining the movement is a made up lie to justify the xenophobia and carrying water for rightwing movements , understand what ure dealing with bruh! study it and understand it! the handwriting and papertrail r everywhere is evident unless u refuse to believe that and continue to believe the fake narrative!
why havent they lobbied & pushed for HR40 , for better grassroot engagements, for better political engagement other than trying to talk down to other black americans n pay for play conferences with white supremacists like Paul Sowers being a featured guest speaker? and Yvette being a paid boardmember of PFIR John Tantons racist altright organization?

 

[mangobob79]

What does that have to do with what I said?

And you just called me a trump voter? Fuck outta here.

becos thats a Trump voter energy tactic like they say Trump won the election bigly ! without proof till this day!

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

first all black people came together to save this country this recent past few months & years and yes since AfricanAmericanDescendantOfAmericasEnslvedAfricans are the majority of blacks in this country it goes without saying that majority of the votes would come from them , infact listening to #ados & tariq would make alot of #ados not have voted!! so i dont get where the desire to b xenophobic comes from , if it aint some clear rightwing agenda with provable paper trail !
once again people are saying lets move this thing forward and actually get some work done but there's a group of people who keep puling & holding us back who feel they cant achieve greatness without being xenophobic ! no strategy no politic just thinking u can bully people online and be xenophobic will get u allies & success!
do u think any movement succeeds without strategy & allies? u refer to some wanting to self identify ! which group of powerful coon blacks r against that? and why focus on that? isnt the issue reparative justice for AfricanAmericanDescendantOfAmericasEnslvedAfricans ? what r u more concerned about some nameless powerless black or white troll black facing online or actual progress ?
its like Dr King spending his time arguing with AfricanAmericanDescendantOfAmericasEnslvedAfricans coons who were against the civil movement, dont tell me u think every single black person was with DrKing?

AND YET it never goes without saying when it's time to interview white people about the election and how they're going to vote
or how these places are going to reach out to trump supporters and get their thoughts
how people are going to move on and tackle other issues that aren't in favor of the people who saved the country.

So the problem really is that it goes without saying I think that is the point lol.

Next.
If you listen to Tariq you're stupid as fuck.
Next if you listen to people to tell you not to vote that's stupid.

ADOS is the reason you even have a right to vote lol because American Descendants of slaves set off civil rights in this country and then echoed AROUND THE FUCKING WORLD.

The people online are just that online its an echo chamber i don't subscribe to. Let's get the work done sounds good but when its time to say that American Descendants of slaves are owed so much why is there any dispute about that specification? Why is it not fair or why is it xenophobic to say the country we're still trapped in...didn't come over to...owes us? That doesn't mean anyone who isn't that doesn't deserve shit its the opposite in theory it would be the same echo chamber that spawned civil rights around the world

And to your last points I have no idea why you're asking me those questions when I haven't expressed any interest in any of those things as far as not voting, being concerned with anything other than progression
Its not a focus it's a fact.
It shouldn't bother anyone
Attacks on anyone black are wrong.

 

[God Dammit]

well u must've not been paying attention to ur leader , becos he is on record saying u can be white & claim #ADOS

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I don’t have a leader, so forget what you’re talking about.
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[largebillsonlyplease]

bruh!! no one ! and i mean no one disputes this !

if nobody has a problem with it then there aren't any problems

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

ADOS IS BIPOC

 

[zod16]

if nobody has a problem with it then there aren't any problems

Exactly. Other than some cacs, who exactly is opposed to this shit? The last time this issue was raised, it seemed that many members of the Diaspora were not in favor. If that is not the case, what exactly are people arguing about? This is what I have been trying to figure out for the last 20+ minutes.

 

[alexw]

I understand what you're saying but I never subscribed to the group.
ADOS is just a factual term to describe us just like mainstream is using BIPOC and other groups have their terms.
It's a fact not an ideology for me.
I don't cosign what they do anymore than we call ourselves american and cosign what america does in other countries.

but this is about the group bro

 

[Soul On Ice]

Lots of circle jerking going on in here lol.

Black people ain't get shit, but hey at least Michelle's hair was laid and Kamala had on Pearl's

Yasss Qweeens

 

[mangobob79]

AND YET it never goes without saying when it's time to interview white people about the election and how they're going to vote
or how these places are going to reach out to trump supporters and get their thoughts
how people are going to move on and tackle other issues that aren't in favor of the people who saved the country.

So the problem really is that it goes without saying I think that is the point lol.

Next.
If you listen to Tariq you're stupid as fuck.
Next if you listen to people to tell you not to vote that's stupid.

ADOS is the reason you even have a right to vote lol because American Descendants of slaves set off civil rights in this country and then echoed AROUND THE FUCKING WORLD.

The people online are just that online its an echo chamber i don't subscribe to. Let's get the work done sounds good but when its time to say that American Descendants of slaves are owed so much why is there any dispute about that specification? Why is it not fair or why is it xenophobic to say the country we're still trapped in...didn't come over to...owes us? That doesn't mean anyone who isn't that doesn't deserve shit its the opposite in theory it would be the same echo chamber that spawned civil rights around the world

And to your last points I have no idea why you're asking me those questions when I haven't expressed any interest in any of those things as far as not voting, being concerned with anything other than progression
Its not a focus it's a fact.
It shouldn't bother anyone
Attacks on anyone black are wrong.

definitely only slow ass idiots listen to tariq & Yvette!
AfricanAmericanDescendantOfAmericasEnslvedAfricans arent the only people who fought white supremacy in the world , and yes some foreign black countries and movements were inspired by the civil rights movement but to think no one anywhere else fought white supremacy b4 the civil rights era is being naive,
2ndly if its just an online echo chamber then why do they keep getting reposted and their xenophobic talking points keep being posted on a tumbleweed bgol thread ,
and why dont u think these discussion leak unto the greater general psyche slowly and infect the movement if its not checked?
and why do u refuse to see the rightwing tactic at play and the tactic & desire to divide n cause chaos amongst the general black body?
becos ive clearly answered u that ...NO POWERFUL GROUP OF BLACKS ANYWHERE FOREIGN OR DOMESTIC ARE AGAINST REPARATIVE JUSTICE OR SELF IDENTIFICATION FOR THE SOEL PURPOSE OF REPARATIVE JUSTICE

so i think u need to stop repeating that debunked talking point and lets get on moving the movement forward with help from all willing and able black bodies who wish to see all black people win n not these dumbass slow ass never-been-nowehere & never-done-nothing-with-their-lives cac troll posing as black people & AfricanAmericanDescendantOfAmericasEnslvedAfricans online!

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

but this is about the group bro

Right but I'm saying that in the same way we can separate being American from being down with the thing America does, we should be able to factually be american descendants of slaves without automatically being tied to what the group does, especially if you're saying look I'm not down with it but as a fact I am an American descendant of slavery.

Like nobody bats an eye at BIPOC Black indigenous person of color --- The only way you can be BIPOC is if you're ADOS lol

 

[KingTaharqa]

Lots of circle jerking going on in here lol.

Black people ain't get shit, but hey at least Michelle's hair was laid and Kamala had on Pearl's

Yasss Qweeens

BGOL immigrants think they're gonna make a thread and "poof" ADOS is gonna disappear. You cant convince these immigrants that they imitate us, not the other way around. They will adjust as usual.

 

[alexw]

Right but I'm saying that in the same way we can separate being American from being down with the thing America does, we should be able to factually be american descendants of slaves without automatically being tied to what the group does, especially if you're saying look I'm not down with it but as a fact I am an American descendant of slavery.

Like nobody bats an eye at BIPOC Black indigenous person of color --- The only way you can be BIPOC is if you're ADOS lol

yeah but youre smart enough not to take the group seriously
however they have 1000s of mofos who dont know any better
and then those followers are spreading the bs and not voting
its dangerous man

 

[mangobob79]

Exactly. Other than some cacs, who exactly is opposed to this shit? The last time this issue was raised, it seemed that many members of the Diaspora were not in favor. If that is not the case, what exactly are people arguing about? This is what I have been trying to figure out for the last 20+ minutes.

proof of "it seemed that many members of the Diaspora were not in favor" other than some sharing opinion by way of honest harsh realization saying they dont believe white people will pass reparations becos they dont trust white people will give reparation if they cant even agree to grant healthcare which even they will benefit from, same way i dont think england is giving jamaica shit or france haiti shit or portugal brazil etc , its just the opinion of harsh realization of a blackman who doesnt think or believe the white demon will ever give us anythin to empower ourselves without taking it by force !!
the same sentiments shared many many AfricanAmericanDescendantOfAmericasEnslvedAfricans !
thats not hatred or division ! thats just the "opinion" of a balckman who doesnt believe the cac demon will ever give us reparations to better ourselves over him! thats just that! and its quite different from fabricating false narrative or faking a shadow rightwing movements to claim foreign black are against reparation (just to suppress black votes & cause chaos amongst the black body) when even a huge population of AfricanAmericanDescendantOfAmericasEnslvedAfricans also believe the cac demon would never give reparations, the same being honestly harsh with the harsh realization

 

[AllUniverse17]

I don’t understand what’s wrong with black people that are the descendents of slaves having their own identity. It was already stolen from us. Even immigrants that have come here and embraced their blackness still differentiate themselves by denoting their heritage so what’s wrong with us doing it? Our plight is unique and there was legislation specifically implemented to oppress us so we need specific legislation to right those wrongs. Just like Haitians deserve it from France and Jamaicans from England.

Thats not the issue here.

I dont think anyone has argued against that at all.

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

definitely only slow ass idiots listen to tariq & Yvette!
AfricanAmericanDescendantOfAmericasEnslvedAfricans arent the only people who fought white supremacy in the world , and yes some foreign black countries and movements were inspired by the civil rights movement but to think no one anywhere else fought white supremacy b4 the civil rights era is being naive,
2ndly if its just an online echo chamber then why do they keep getting reposted and their xenophobic talking points keep being posted on a tumbleweed bgol thread ,
and why dont u think these discussion leak unto the greater general psyche slowly and infect the movement if its not checked?
and why do u refuse to see the rightwing tactic at play and the tactic & desire to divide n cause chaos amongst the general black body?
becos ive clearly answered u that NO POWERFUL GROUP OF BLACKS ANYWHERE FOREIGN OR DOMESTIC ARE AGAINST REPARATIVE JUSTICE OR SELF IDENTIFICATION FOR THE SOEL PURPOSE OF REPARATIVE JUSTICE

so i think u need to stop repeating that debunked talking point and lets get on moving the movement forward with help from all willing and able black bodies who wish to see all black people win n not these dumbass slow ass never-been-nowehere & never-done-nothing-with-their-lives cac troll posing as black people & AfricanAmericanDescendantOfAmericasEnslvedAfricans online!

The problem with your approach in this exchange is you take a sentence and extrapolate an entire thing into something I didn't say.
I didn't say We were the only ones to fight white supremacy in the world.
You keep trying to concede minor things without giving full credit
It's just a coincidence that in the 60's after the headway Americans here made that other places followed those same practices and tactics and achieved their own measure of civil rights and break away ties from oppression

Where in that does it say nobody fought white supremacy before here? Where does it say this is the home of fighting white supremacy?
It didn't.

It is just an online echo chamber because in real life---offline---BIPOC-ADOS people VOTED FOR BIDEN and WON THE ELECTION lol. That's the definition of it just being online and not showing up in real life.

The discussion doesn't leak into the greater general psyche slowly because the people you mentioned in the beginning of your post don't have the reach people try to give them credit for.
And BLACK PEOPLE are SO MUCH SMARTER than you want to give them credit for.
We saw it as bullshit and showed up to the polls fact or not?

You tell me to stop repeating a debunked talking point like you said something....while creating talking points to answer that I never said..I guess they're debunked so in response to this message don't bring them up anymore

Deal?

 

[FutureLutherKing]

The real problem is when titles read, "Right Wing" and don't know what they are talking about.
African Americans, not foreign Blacks, have historically been conservative insomuch as the general community was concerned.
Tulsa, by definition, was a Black populist social experiment.

Black populism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[mangobob79]

Exactly. Other than some cacs, who exactly is opposed to this shit? The last time this issue was raised, it seemed that many members of the Diaspora were not in favor. If that is not the case, what exactly are people arguing about? This is what I have been trying to figure out for the last 20+ minutes.

its called poisoning the water and hijacking a movement for nefarious purpose!(its very evident from the post by the lady Jessica on twiiter ! 1st post !) so we can all agree now that tariq,Yvette & mushmouth moore are all agents of rigtiwing and stop posting and carrying water with their talking points henceforth and focus on reparative justice for AfricanAmericanDescendantOfAmericasEnslvedAfricans?

 

[mangobob79]

The problem with your approach in this exchange is you take a sentence and extrapolate an entire thing into something I didn't say.
I didn't say We were the only ones to fight white supremacy in the world.
You keep trying to concede minor things without giving full credit
It's just a coincidence that in the 60's after the headway Americans here made that other places followed those same practices and tactics and achieved their own measure of civil rights and break away ties from oppression

Where in that does it say nobody fought white supremacy before here? Where does it say this is the home of fighting white supremacy?
It didn't.

It is just an online echo chamber because in real life---offline---BIPOC-ADOS people VOTED FOR BIDEN and WON THE ELECTION lol. That's the definition of it just being online and not showing up in real life.

The discussion doesn't leak into the greater general psyche slowly because the people you mentioned in the beginning of your post don't have the reach people try to give them credit for.
And BLACK PEOPLE are SO MUCH SMARTER than you want to give them credit for.
We saw it as bullshit and showed up to the polls fact or not?

You tell me to stop repeating a debunked talking point like you said something....while creating talking points to answer that I never said..I guess they're debunked so in response to this message don't bring them up anymore

Deal?

its a whole lot u have to uncover about how #ados came about & how it got pushed up front ! but anway lets get back to the focus right? deal!

"Reparative Justice for AfricanAmericanDescendantOfAmericasEnslvedAfricans"

and lets keep it there and discuss ways and means n tactics moving forward but i refuse to forget how the movement was almost & can be hijacked, history has taught us enuff to learn by now!
i pray we are all smarter than that but history repeats itself too many times to not take any even halfway threat serious

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

yeah but youre smart enough not to take the group seriously
however they have 1000s of mofos who dont know any better
and then those followers are spreading the bs and not voting
its dangerous man

It is dangerous but I also have faith that those fuck heads can't infect the others.
We're not white people on facebook

So it is a threat and I'm ok with it being stamped out
But also stamp out the group of people who spread the dangerous misinformation
and don't stamp out the term