Black immigrants pledge support for Donald Trump

[KingTaharqa]

I totally support dealing with coon immigrants accordingly. I am just saying that their defining characteristic is coon, not immigrant. Ostracizing them from the entire black community instead of just from ADOS is more consequential than a division that gives them an immigrant community to identify with.

Its too late for that. Immigrants have had over 30 years to police their coons and opted not to. Now its not our job to distinguish the difference. Our allies have made themselves known. Everyone else has to fend white supremacy on their own, good luck!

I went to undergrad at an HBCU

You went to one of our schools, thank you for admitting that.

and a friend of mine pointed out how our mindsets were different from back Americans because we did not have to grow up under the obvious yoke of WS. While the point was inarguable, it bothered me that it was said with a sense of superiority and not solidarity. I totally get how this form of divisive colonial mindset can, and should cause friction. However, if we are serious about defeating WS we cannot respond in a manner that weakened the greater movement. (It is worth noting that he was in the minority that immigrated instead of going home to build and I do not argue with anyone that questions his character)

There is no greater movement, melenated people worldwide are not unified. Rival tribes are beefing right now on the continent of Africa and "Pan Africans" in the Caribbean, US, and UK do nothing about it or even try to intervene. Continental Africans were just on twitter the other day laughing at "Caribbeans" calling themselves Pan African and said that shit gets 0 respect on the continent. In their own words "its for Caribbeans and Black Americans". Until Africa is unified, cant expect black folk in the diaspora to be. And Black Americans have a bigger fight right now in our own backyard than to worry about people half way around the world that dont even id with us culturally.

Of that 20%, 15 percent is white and the other five are go-along to get-along types. I literally can't remember an instance of public coonery aside from anonymous voices on talk radio spouting FoxNews talking points; and even those are quickly ushered off-air. As for our coons in your country, to be honest, they can only be your problem. Meddling in the affairs of the empire is a useless pursuit when you have zero influence or leverage; and local issues to deal with.
I do agree with your larger point though. I attend the closest thing to a white church over here (10% white 20% mulatto) and in 2017 a longtime white American "friend' of the congregation visited. During the course of a conversation, he proudly expressed his support for Trump, and hilarity ensued. As the story goes, it was the first time many heard old folks cuss in a church meeting. That guy has not been back since. There is an unease in our congregation bc our black pastor, trained by white evangelical seminaries, and married to a white American, now has to walk a thin line when a white member says something racist like Obama was worst than Trump


I am trying to illustrate that contrary to your assessment, ADOS is not uniquely adept at policing anti-black propaganda. How can you be when you don't control your legal system? Yet you display typical American arrogance (yes, even black Americans do this) and take your limited, American bubble view of the world and make assumptions. In South Africa whites are arrested for using the word K@ffir; in the Bahamas, white folk know the police will actively move against them in any sort of racial dispute(in the absence of big payoff). This culture of intolerance of WS is deeply engrained and it is supported by every facet of society that we control.

While those are nice examples of policing WS, all those countries you named are controlled by WS. And while open WS isnt tolerated, the economies and political landscape are still controlled by whites. There are examples of resistance to WS all thru out history all over the world, in no way am I saying ONLY we fight WS, but we're the only ones who actively fight it nonstop and have made gains HERE. Thats how you were able to go to one of our HBCUs, our ancestors had to create and cultivate those directly out of slavery. In America we had a civil war where White American and Black American blood was shed, what wars took place in the Caribbean that liberated the people that I should know of? You cant compare island history to American history because it isnt the same, which makes us culturally different.

ALL Americans hate to hear that yall are not special. You inspire people from all around there world bc of your proximity to the world empire. Yes, we all love hip hop because of its connection to African ancestral expression. But we also love our expressions of African heritage. Whether it be Junkanoo, Reggae, Soca, Samba etc we love it in our respective regions bc that is what reached us. We also listen to hip hop, not bc it is better or more soulful, but because the neocolonial financial empire of the united states made it available in our regions

The neocolonial financial empire of the US comes from Black Americans, our labor and culture brother. Unfortunately because the dynamic is not the same in the islands, its hard for you to fathom this. Whites in the islands dont look up to Blacks there nor are they uber dependent on them as most whites dont want to live there at all, as the White Americans are with us here. We had a brutal Civil War here where whites blood was shed over our liberation and social status, nothing of the sort ever occured in the islands. White Americans cant survive without Black Americans psychologically which caused a split in the country. Immigrants like yourself will never understand this, and thats OK, Im sure I dont understand things about your country as well. There are Jamaicans, Africans, etc in Great Britain, yet British white people are bigger fans of Black American music than the music from the "Blacks" in their own backyard. Proof that proximity to whiteness doesnt automatically make you the most sought after and emulated culture on the planet.

It is this type of failure to recognize the interconnectivity of the diaspora that causes friction.

The diaspora isnt unified and never has been.

Europe developed a culture of extreme violence and colonized 80% of the planet.

With willing participation and subjugation. You dont colonize nations and keep them subjugated without it. Most Africans and Islanders will still gladly live in Europe today as well or one of her colonies.

Europen Americans are just British traitors and ADOS although different, are no better or worse because of which slave port their ship docked or which European slaver held their bill of sale. Bother to learn the stories of brothers and sisters in other slave ports and not rely on an empirical center-of-the-universe narrative typical of members of an empire

All immigrants hate to hear that they are not special. And that they are simply the "elites" from their countries White Americans are willing to deal with and allow to work for them. They hate to hear that they are basically capitalist and not freedom fighters whatsoever. If they were about freedom fighting they would stay in their home countries and fight, most do not. They hate to hear that they are not Black Americans, simply co-splaying one when they attend HBCUs or operate in spaces intended for Black Americans. In one breath, we arent special, in the next, they demand to be "unified" with us. This is neo-colonialism and settler mentality in a nutshell, and it is learned. Because this is essentially what the British did to the melenated people in their colonies, impose their law on them, while demanding they "unify". I notice you call White Americans "British traitors", which implies Britain deserves loyalty, interesting.

 

[tera9]

Its too late for that. Immigrants have had over 30 years to police their coons and opted not to. Now its not our job to distinguish the difference. Our allies have made themselves known. Everyone else has to fend white supremacy on their own, good luck!



You went to one of our schools, thank you for admitting that.



There is no greater movement, melenated people worldwide are not unified. Rival tribes are beefing right now on the continent of Africa and "Pan Africans" in the Caribbean, US, and UK do nothing about it or even try to intervene. Continental Africans were just on twitter the other day laughing at "Caribbeans" calling themselves Pan African and said that shit gets 0 respect on the continent. In their own words "its for Caribbeans and Black Americans". Until Africa is unified, cant expect black folk in the diaspora to be. And Black Americans have a bigger fight right now in our own backyard than to worry about people half way around the world that dont even id with us culturally.



While those are nice examples of policing WS, all those countries you named are controlled by WS. And while open WS isnt tolerated, the economies and political landscape are still controlled by whites. There are examples of resistance to WS all thru out history all over the world, in no way am I saying ONLY we fight WS, but we're the only ones who actively fight it nonstop and have made gains HERE. Thats how you were able to go to one of our HBCUs, our ancestors had to create and cultivate those directly out of slavery. In America we had a civil war where White American and Black American blood was shed, what wars took place in the Caribbean that liberated the people that I should know of? You cant compare island history to American history because it isnt the same, which makes us culturally different.



The neocolonial financial empire of the US comes from Black Americans, our labor and culture brother. Unfortunately because the dynamic is not the same in the islands, its hard for you to fathom this. Whites in the islands dont look up to Blacks there nor are they uber dependent on them as most whites dont want to live there at all, as the White Americans are with us here. We had a brutal Civil War here where whites blood was shed over our liberation and social status, nothing of the sort ever occured in the islands. White Americans cant survive without Black Americans psychologically which caused a split in the country. Immigrants like yourself will never understand this, and thats OK, Im sure I dont understand things about your country as well. There are Jamaicans, Africans, etc in Great Britain, yet British white people are bigger fans of Black American music than the music from the "Blacks" in their own backyard. Proof that proximity to whiteness doesnt automatically make you the most sought after and emulated culture on the planet.



The diaspora isnt unified and never has been.



With willing participation and subjugation. You dont colonize nations and keep them subjugated without it. Most Africans and Islanders will still gladly live in Europe today as well or one of her colonies.




All immigrants hate to hear that they are not special. And that they are simply the "elites" from their countries White Americans are willing to deal with and allow to work for them. They hate to hear that they are basically capitalist and not freedom fighters whatsoever. If they were about freedom fighting they would stay in their home countries and fight, most do not. They hate to hear that they are not Black Americans, simply co-splaying one when they attend HBCUs or operate in spaces intended for Black Americans. In one breath, we arent special, in the next, they demand to be "unified" with us. This is neo-colonialism and settler mentality in a nutshell, and it is learned. Because this is essentially what the British did to the melenated people in their colonies, impose their law on them, while demanding they "unify". I notice you call White Americans "British traitors", which implies Britain deserves loyalty, interesting.

Labeling European Americans accurately as British traitors deconstructs the false narrative of exceptionalism and exposes their 'god-given right ' to the land they stole as a lie born of genocide. A group of Europeans got together with their backers (royalty) to rape, steal, and pillage for profit. The deal was for them to send a cut back to home base and get muscle whenever needed. Those that went to America found so much wealth and resources that they grew strong enough to betray the boss in Europe and run their own criminal empire. Of course, ADOS built the nation but America's standing in the world is based on slave labour+ stolen resources+ not having to send that cut back to Britain.

Yet Americans believe the lie that they were freedom fighters. I denigrate both the mafia and the lieutenants that betrayed it. Given its history, using your Identity as an American to divide displaced Africans is some peak counterproductivity

BTW most of the countries in the diaspora are around 60 years old and just discovered info beyond colonialist propaganda. I would say let's make the effort to become more unified but since unification did not happen immediately you ain't gat time for that. OK

My point about is being special is that none of us should have superiority complexes. If it is all of us against the immigrant coons you described then what's the problem? All it takes is the effort to look outside the American bubble and find common ground with your brothers; because some form of international unity is +ve for all of us

Your American Bubble illustrated:
Did you even know that during the American war of independence, many whites that wanted to remain loyal to Britain were persecuted to the point that they took their slaves and fled to the Bahamas? This the genesis of most of our population (others are of Haitian descent). The fact that I can trace my lineage from both parents back to slave plantations in Virginia and Carolina does not make me feel superior, more entitled, or apart from non ADOS melanated people.

As for revolts, Bahamian slaves were notoriously unruly and we built our modern town planning around runaway slave settlements that grew to include everyone. There are recorded examples of skirmishes that resulted in injured whites and free blacks. European Bahamians (formerly European Americans) could not force us to work so they resorted to an economic segregation that subjugated us until the father of our nation threw the mace from the parliament building in 1965. this led to a popular uprising that forced majority rule and resulted in black people in power for the first time -MLK inspired

Our struggle is interconnected and just as riveting as any, but you prefer to make assumptions based on ignorance (peak American)...just like your assumption that everyone wants to live in klan country - NOPE

 

[KingTaharqa]

Labeling European Americans accurately as British traitors deconstructs the false narrative of exceptionalism and exposes their 'god-given right ' to the land they stole as a lie born of genocide. A group of Europeans got together with their backers (royalty) to rape, steal, and pillage for profit. The deal was for them to send a cut back to home base and get muscle whenever needed. Those that went to America found so much wealth and resources that they grew strong enough to betray the boss in Europe and run their own criminal empire. Of course, ADOS built the nation but America's standing in the world is based on slave labour+ stolen resources+ not having to send that cut back to Britain.

What entitled Britain to this land? Nothing. Both AmeriKKKa and the UK are the 2 of the most evil empires in human history that ushered in colonialism and imperialism in this era. Most Americans will tell you our country aint shit, but I find you Brits dont do the same for yours. You dont call out your Government the way we do ours routinely.

Yet Americans believe the lie that they were freedom fighters. I denigrate both the mafia and the lieutenants that betrayed it. Given its history, using your Identity as an American to divide displaced Africans is some peak counterproductivity

Most Americans dont believe the "founding fathers" were "freedom fighters". Thats some white people bullshit. No Black American holds them in high esteem because all were slave owners, you are conflating White American conflicts with Black American history and culture, please dont. No Black American feels "they are superior" because of Thomas Jefferson or George Washington. We give little thought to the Revolutionary period, truthfully the Civil War has shaped AmeriKKKa far greater and is more influential on current events. Someone like yourself from a British colony is gonna be more invested in the Revolutionary War, then the average American. Most White Americans werent even here during the Revolutionary War to feel superior off of it. They immigrated here afterwards. Again, America has not always been a super power or go to destination. That is just recent.

BTW most of the countries in the diaspora are around 60 years old and just discovered info beyond colonialist propaganda. I would say let's make the effort to become more unified but since unification did not happen immediately you ain't gat time for that. OK

We supported all their independence and support their growth, that wont come at the expense of our identity though. Exploiting us isnt unification. Being unified would mean most melenated immigrants are on board publicly and vocally with reparations to ADOS, yet most aint, and we're not waiting for them to be. The diaspora should do the same.

My point about is being special is that none of us should have superiority complexes. If it is all of us against the immigrant coons you described then what's the problem? All it takes is the effort to look outside the American bubble and find common ground with your brothers; because some form of international unity is +ve for all of us

Me stating that Black Americans have the most emulated culture and are the most influential in the diaspora isnt a superiority complex, its a fact bro. The only people who get bothered by that are islanders. Most Africans openly stan our shit and people from other cultures openly stan it too. Its OK to admit Black Americans are one of the greatest group of Blacks to ever walk the Earth. That doesnt make other groups any less and we dont put down or denigrate any other groups or use what we do to tell others they aint shit. We are not tribal. I find that its hard for islanders to fathom that because they ARE tribal, and come from a culture of constant competition in the islands. We dont. If we were tribal like the Caribbean, Black Americans in different states would see themselves as different ethnic groups and have different flags, yet we dont do that at all, we see ourselves as 1 nation and understand our ancestors traveled from state to state.

Your American Bubble illustrated:
Did you even know that during the American war of independence, many whites that wanted to remain loyal to Britain were persecuted to the point that they took their slaves and fled to the Bahamas?

Bro, you have to get off the "bubble" stuff. We have access to more information than any other group of Blacks in the world, hence folks like yourself attending our schools. Yes I know that there were whites that wanted to remain loyal to Britain, trust me, you dont not know more about American history than Americans bruh. Dont be arrogant.

This the genesis of most of our population (others are of Haitian descent). The fact that I can trace my lineage from both parents back to slave plantations in Virginia and Carolina does not make me feel superior, more entitled, or apart from non ADOS melanated people.

It doesnt make us feel superior or entitled either, just apart of a justice claim. And most slaves in the islands did not go to and from America to the Caribbean. That is a false narrative to make islanders feel apart of our justice claim. They're not willing to take France or Spain or Britain to task for reparations, so they'd rather muddy the waters about our lineage. It wont work. It cant be one breath America are "British traitors" then in the next we pretend like competing nations in the slave trade were 1 big unified nation.

As for revolts, Bahamian slaves were notoriously unruly and we built our modern town planning around runaway slave settlements that grew to include everyone. There are recorded examples of skirmishes that resulted in injured whites and free blacks. European Bahamians (formerly European Americans) could not force us to work so they resorted to an economic segregation that subjugated us until the father of our nation threw the mace from the parliament building in 1965. this led to a popular uprising that forced majority rule and resulted in black people in power for the first time -MLK inspired

Our struggle is interconnected and just as riveting as any, but you prefer to make assumptions based on ignorance (peak American)...just like your assumption that everyone wants to live in klan country - NOPE

Your story is unique to your island and has nothing to do with Black Americans or our struggle. There is no connection. I was just in the Bahamas a summer ago for vacation. I enjoyed my visit but in no way did I say "these are my people" and the folks there didnt view as such either.

There's a reason why you want to be connected to me brother, but you dont see me dying to be connected or tied to the Bahamas. And its not a superiority complex.

 

[tera9]

What entitled Britain to this land? Nothing. Both AmeriKKKa and the UK are the 2 of the most evil empires in human history that ushered in colonialism and imperialism in this era. Most Americans will tell you our country aint shit, but I find you Brits dont do the same for yours. You dont call out your Government the way we do ours routinely.



Most Americans dont believe the "founding fathers" were "freedom fighters". Thats some white people bullshit. No Black American holds them in high esteem because all were slave owners, you are conflating White American conflicts with Black American history and culture, please dont. No Black American feels "they are superior" because of Thomas Jefferson or George Washington. We give little thought to the Revolutionary period, truthfully the Civil War has shaped AmeriKKKa far greater and is more influential on current events. Someone like yourself from a British colony is gonna be more invested in the Revolutionary War, then the average American. Most White Americans werent even here during the Revolutionary War to feel superior off of it. They immigrated here afterwards. Again, America has not always been a super power or go to destination. That is just recent.



We supported all their independence and support their growth, that wont come at the expense of our identity though. Exploiting us isnt unification. Being unified would mean most melenated immigrants are on board publicly and vocally with reparations to ADOS, yet most aint, and we're not waiting for them to be. The diaspora should do the same.



Me stating that Black Americans have the most emulated culture and are the most influential in the diaspora isnt a superiority complex, its a fact bro. The only people who get bothered by that are islanders. Most Africans openly stan our shit and people from other cultures openly stan it too. Its OK to admit Black Americans are one of the greatest group of Blacks to ever walk the Earth. That doesnt make other groups any less and we dont put down or denigrate any other groups or use what we do to tell others they aint shit. We are not tribal. I find that its hard for islanders to fathom that because they ARE tribal, and come from a culture of constant competition in the islands. We dont. If we were tribal like the Caribbean, Black Americans in different states would see themselves as different ethnic groups and have different flags, yet we dont do that at all, we see ourselves as 1 nation and understand our ancestors traveled from state to state.



Bro, you have to get off the "bubble" stuff. We have access to more information than any other group of Blacks in the world, hence folks like yourself attending our schools. Yes I know that there were whites that wanted to remain loyal to Britain, trust me, you dont not know more about American history than Americans bruh. Dont be arrogant.




It doesnt make us feel superior or entitled either, just apart of a justice claim. And most slaves in the islands did not go to and from America to the Caribbean. That is a false narrative to make islanders feel apart of our justice claim. They're not willing to take France or Spain or Britain to task for reparations, so they'd rather muddy the waters about our lineage. It wont work. It cant be one breath America are "British traitors" then in the next we pretend like competing nations in the slave trade were 1 big unified nation.



Your story is unique to your island and has nothing to do with Black Americans or our struggle. There is no connection. I was just in the Bahamas a summer ago for vacation. I enjoyed my visit but in no way did I say "these are my people" and the folks there didnt view as such either.

There's a reason why you want to be connected to me brother, but you dont see me dying to be connected or tied to the Bahamas. And its not a superiority complex.

You made some reasonable assertions that I disagree with but they are based on your personal experiences thus not worth the circular argument.

I did notice that the facts I stated about Bahamian lineage apparently undercut your worldview so vehemently that you falsely reframe, then dismiss them without analysis. The Bahamas did not have a slave port like other Caribbean islands and our plantations were mostly European American loyalists and their slaves -look it up.

There are videos of Gullah Geechee people on youtube that sing the same songs and look and sound just like my grandparents. Yet the fact that you, as proud ADOS, didn't feel any kinship with us when you visited tells me all I need to know about you and yours.

I take pride in the journey of my ancestors and do not try and deny any aspect of their struggle just because it conflicts with some new, misguided, divisive, ethos that may or may not set us all back a hundred years

Peace

 

[KingTaharqa]

You made some reasonable assertions that I disagree with but they are based on your personal experiences thus not worth the circular argument.

I did notice that the facts I stated about Bahamian lineage apparently undercut your worldview so vehemently that you falsely reframe, then dismiss them without analysis. The Bahamas did not have a slave port like other Caribbean islands and our plantations were mostly European American loyalists and their slaves -look it up.

There are videos of Gullah Geechee people on youtube that sing the same songs and look and sound just like my grandparents. Yet the fact that you, as proud ADOS, didn't feel any kinship with us when you visited tells me all I need to know about you and yours.

I take pride in the journey of my ancestors and do not try and deny any aspect of their struggle just because it conflicts with some new, misguided, divisive, ethos that may or may not set us all back a hundred years

Peace

I know you saw yesterday's events bro. Peep the flag...



This is what I mean when I say the Civil War and the "rebels" are more ingrained in current US affairs then Revolutionary War "patriots". None of these WS groups raise the original 13 colonies US flag, but the Confederate one. The Civil War tells the story of America better than the Revolution. As I stated, most of these CACs came after that, only enslaved Black Americans, British merchants and colonists, and indigenous were here then.

 

[KingTaharqa]

Wait so when you not riding LeBron dick you actually talk about politics?

BGOL mods suck at creating alts.

 

[KingTaharqa]

 

[tera9]

I know you saw yesterday's events bro. Peep the flag...



This is what I mean when I say the Civil War and the "rebels" are more ingrained in current US affairs then Revolutionary War "patriots". None of these WS groups raise the original 13 colonies US flag, but the Confederate one. The Civil War tells the story of America better than the Revolution. As I stated, most of these CACs came after that, only enslaved Black Americans, British merchants and colonists, and indigenous were here then.

The reason I use #klanculture is because culture is just the ideas, traditions, and social behavior of a particular people or society. Klan culture is rooted in greed and violence and the belief that some 'excuse' is reason to justify any atrocity necessary to profit. In Northern Ireland they use religion as the excuse, in the rest of the world they use melanin.

I get your point but i am saying there is no difference between civil war klan culture and revolutionary klan culture. Nor is there a difference between the klan culture in Europeans that speak English, german, dutch, Spanish, french, portuguese etc. The medieval period in Europe, characterized by massive suffering, violence, and competition between European nations, created this culture in an environment of scarcity and immorality (the church politicized as a power broker and not a moral arbiter).

The rest of the world, where life was good (crops/subsistence could be grown year-round and you could sleep outside without imminent death), was a playground for all of Europe; that had become more adept at killing and subjugation as survival skills.

To me, it makes no difference when, why, or how a cac adopted klan culture, it only matters the suffering they inflicted and the potential for justice and reparations that even the field. An Irishman that watched 'birth of a nation' and started lynching and terrorizing black folk in the 1920s is no better or worse than a Britt (1st, 2nd or 3rd generation American) in the 1760s working the slave patrols.

To say that 'The Civil War tells the story of America better than the Revolution.' ignores the entire reason America exists and gives cover to a European solidarity that is our real enemy. Never forget that the US prostituted itself for Europeans in South africa in the 80's as it does for Europans in Isreal. The eropean union flaunts the wealth stolen from the rest of the world yet, will not entertain any discussion on reparations at the UN. Even seemingly decent places like New zeeland and austrailia are builit on stolen resources that are now "legally" inherited.

Winning the battle in the US is gets you nowhere if the rest of the planet punishes you for it (re: Haiti). Either through force of intellect or brute strength, it will take the combnied efforts of all of the colonized people to undo 500 years of damage done by a Eurpean plauge united in conquest

 

[pimp1101]

Even the Asians love Trump

 

[D24OHA]

Smh

 

[KingTaharqa]

The reason I use #klanculture is because culture is just the ideas, traditions, and social behavior of a particular people or society. Klan culture is rooted in greed and violence and the belief that some 'excuse' is reason to justify any atrocity necessary to profit. In Northern Ireland they use religion as the excuse, in the rest of the world they use melanin.

What you call Klan culture, we call "White Supremacy"

I get your point but i am saying there is no difference between civil war klan culture and revolutionary klan culture.

There's a difference in the Revolutionary War and Civil War. I dont think you have a thorough understanding or knowledge of the Civil War being as youre an immigrant and dont have a family that came out slavery here nor been thru Jim Crow, which you havent mentioned at all.

Nor is there a difference between the klan culture in Europeans that speak English, german, dutch, Spanish, french, portuguese etc. The medieval period in Europe, characterized by massive suffering, violence, and competition between European nations, created this culture in an environment of scarcity and immorality (the church politicized as a power broker and not a moral arbiter).

Its all WS. The difference is how you respond to it. Black Americans challenge it, "Blacks" in Africa and the Caribbean that were colonized in their own lands, not so much. You want us to view all white oppressors as "our problem too" because melenated people in the UK and Africa are afraid to stand up to it without us.

The rest of the world, where life was good (crops/subsistence could be grown year-round and you could sleep outside without imminent death), was a playground for all of Europe; that had become more adept at killing and subjugation as survival skills.

This is a false Pan African narrative that is ahistorical. For starters, Europeans arent even the first colonists in Africa, the Arabs colonized Northern Africa first. Now Asians are colonizing it. You Pan Africans ONLY focus on whites which allows you to be exploited by all other groups. Africa is a European term forced upon them, the borders today, forced upon them. Europeans are evil and destructive which is why Africans look up to them and have done business with them the last 400 years. The continent has always had more love for outsiders than their own.

To me, it makes no difference when, why, or how a cac adopted klan culture, it only matters the suffering they inflicted and the potential for justice and reparations that even the field. An Irishman that watched 'birth of a nation' and started lynching and terrorizing black folk in the 1920s is no better or worse than a Britt (1st, 2nd or 3rd generation American)

Its not a matter of who's better or worse, its a matter of history. Because you have a deep reverence for the UK and are an immigrant, you overstate the Revolutionary period to ignore the last 150 years of US history that is directly shaping whats unfolding right now. Not being from this country and having citizenship (which you sound like you take great pride in) in a UK territory affords you that perspective. Take it from an actual American, Americans dont think about or care about the Revolutionary War. Do a search on BGOL and see how many threads about it on here you come up with.

To say that 'The Civil War tells the story of America better than the Revolution.' ignores the entire reason America exists and gives cover to a European solidarity that is our real enemy.

The Civil War doesnt ignore why America exists, there is a direct line between both wars. But the Civil War has lasted far longer and affected American society far greater. You need to study and become more familiar with the US Civil War because it's clear you arent very knowledgeable.

Never forget that the US prostituted itself for Europeans in South africa in the 80's as it does for Europans in Isreal. The eropean union flaunts the wealth stolen from the rest of the world yet, will not entertain any discussion on reparations at the UN.

The US still has a close relationship with Britain and Europe and will join in their efforts when necessary. Which makes your "traitor" talk sound silly. There's no honor amongst thieves, and theres no beef between the UK and the US. They had a WS family squabble 300+ years ago, alot has happened since then bruh.

Even seemingly decent places like New zeeland and austrailia are builit on stolen resources that are now "legally" inherited.

Why won't you call out the UK specifically for this? You cant be a British loyalist and be against WS, thats an oxymoron. This is why we are in no rush to unify. You arent gonna go against UK WS.

Winning the battle in the US is gets you nowhere if the rest of the planet punishes you for it (re: Haiti). Either through force of intellect or brute strength, it will take the combnied efforts of all of the colonized people to undo 500 years of damage done by a Eurpean plauge united in conquest

This isnt Haiti. We're not looking to have a coup and create a new republic, just want whats due to our ancestors for US chattel slavery and Jim Crow. Not the first and likely not the last time the US has administered reparations. Until we see "Blacks" consistently fight WS in the UK, Caribbean, and Africa we have no desire or need to "unify" with them. Until we see "Blacks" in the UK, Caribbean, and Africa turn down resources and money from White Americans in unity with us we cant trust them. We dont even need their help with our own justice claim. We arent in the African Union or Caricom, we only owe loyalty to ourselves so our first concern is our justice claim here.

 

[tera9]

What you call Klan culture, we call "White Supremacy"

no shit sherlock
using the cultural argument forces normal whites to face how they are complicit

There's a difference in the Revolutionary War and Civil War. I dont think you have a thorough understanding or knowledge of the Civil War being as youre an immigrant and dont have a family that came out slavery here nor been thru Jim Crow, which you havent mentioned at all.

YEs, because books about the US become illegible when they are read by non-Americans
Your superficial understanding of history obviously prevents you from processing new info

Its all WS. The difference is how you respond to it. Black Americans challenge it, "Blacks" in Africa and the Caribbean that were colonized in their own lands, not so much. You want us to view all white oppressors as "our problem too" because melenated people in the UK and Africa are afraid to stand up to it without us.

Here we go again with this BS. You don't know how we fight and when enlightened you still pretend to not know. Ignorance is your refuge

This is a false Pan African narrative that is ahistorical. For starters, Europeans arent even the first colonists in Africa, the Arabs colonized Northern Africa first. Now Asians are colonizing it. You Pan Africans ONLY focus on whites which allows you to be exploited by all other groups. Africa is a European term forced upon them, the borders today, forced upon them. Europeans are evil and destructive which is why Africans look up to them and have done business with them the last 400 years. The continent has always had more love for outsiders than their own.

Da Fuc we speaking now nigga Arabic? 80% of the planet speaks European and you bring up this BS? Who runs the planet, China?

Its not a matter of who's better or worse, its a matter of history. Because you have a deep reverence for the UK and are an immigrant, you overstate the Revolutionary period to ignore the last 150 years of US history that is directly shaping whats unfolding right now. Not being from this country and having citizenship (which you sound like you take great pride in) in a UK territory affords you that perspective. Take it from an actual American, Americans dont think about or care about the Revolutionary War. Do a search on BGOL and see how many threads about it on here you come up with.

just Because it makes you feel better to say that black people love Europe doesn't make you more right. I point out the folly of valuing WS citizenship over solidarity with African heritage and you make up every excuse to cling to Massa. Well, good luck with that . Good thing most black people don think like you or we would all be fucked

The Civil War doesnt ignore why America exists, there is a direct line between both wars. But the Civil War has lasted far longer and affected American society far greater. You need to study and become more familiar with the US Civil War because it's clear you arent very knowledgeable.

Nigga again, Books can be read outside of your beloved white supremacist nation.

The US still has a close relationship with Britain and Europe and will join in their efforts when necessary. Which makes your "traitor" talk sound silly. There's no honor amongst thieves, and theres no beef between the UK and the US. They had a WS family squabble 300+ years ago, alot has happened since then bruh.

you made my point, thanks

Why won't you call out the UK specifically for this? You cant be a British loyalist and be against WS, thats an oxymoron. This is why we are in no rush to unify. You arent gonna go against UK WS.

Because the truth is WS is a European disease not just UK. all of these baseless assumptions makes you sound green. try living in a few countries to get some perspective on how the wold woks

This isnt Haiti. We're not looking to have a coup and create a new republic, just want whats due to our ancestors for US chattel slavery and Jim Crow. Not the first and likely not the last time the US has administered reparations. Until we see "Blacks" consistently fight WS in the UK, Caribbean, and Africa we have no desire or need to "unify" with them. Until we see "Blacks" in the UK, Caribbean, and Africa turn down resources and money from White Americans in unity with us we cant trust them. We dont even need their help with our own justice claim. We arent in the African Union or Caricom, we only owe loyalty to ourselves so our first concern is our justice claim here.

and how exactly are you going to accomplish any of that by weakening your own position with division form your own people (and IF you say we are not your own people, you are a motherfucking COON)

Guess you never heard of divide and conquer
good luck with that
I'm out
peace

 

[KingTaharqa]

no shit sherlock
using the cultural argument forces normal whites to face how they are complicit



YEs, because books about the US become illegible when they are read by non-Americans
Your superficial understanding of history obviously prevents you from processing new info

Here we go again with this BS. You don't know how we fight and when enlightened you still pretend to not know. Ignorance is your refuge

You dont fight, I asked for examples and you gave some bullshit laws that passed. Black Americans fought in a Civil War, what national wars took place in the Caribbean where Blacks violently fought against whites that are comparable to the US Civil War? There are none. Most of the Caribbean nations gained independence thru agreements and remainining loyal to Europe not bloodshed. Haiti is the only one.

Da Fuc we speaking now nigga Arabic? 80% of the planet speaks European and you bring up this BS? Who runs the planet, China?

In North Africa they are dominated and oppressed by Muslims and Arabs. I knew your Caribbean "Pan African" ass didnt really care about Africa. The Chinese are currently exploiting the continent. And I knew you looked at Whites as God, which is why you say "they run the planet". Black Americans dont want to unify with scary Caribbeans who see whites as Godly. You attended college in the US and ran to massa for your education because degrees in your homeland are worth nothing to massa. He wont hire you unless you attended an American school and you gladly obliged, even begged him for citizenship. You dont come from a culture of white resistance bro, its not in you.

just Because it makes you feel better to say that black people love Europe doesn't make you more right. I point out the folly of valuing WS citizenship over solidarity with African heritage and you make up every excuse to cling to Massa. Well, good luck with that . Good thing most black people don think like you or we would all be fucked

You arent Black and you arent American. Youre a West Indian immigrant who is loyal to the UK. You havent a clue what Black people in America think. And you dont know shit about our history, just British history and White Americans who you say " run the planet"

Nigga again, Books can be read outside of your beloved white supremacist nation.

You immediately start calling me a nigga for pointing out you know 0 about the Civil War after claiming you want unity. Black Americans dont need unity with cowardly Caribbeans who dont even live in their home countries by choice.

Because the truth is WS is a European disease not just UK. all of these baseless assumptions makes you sound green. try living in a few countries to get some perspective on how the wold woks

You living in a bunch of countries temporarily on immigration waiting lists means you know less about America than anyone. Try living in America for multiple decades and then maybe someone will value your thoughts on it.

and how exactly are you going to accomplish any of that by weakening your own position with division form your own people (and IF you say we are not your own people, you are a motherfucking COON)

You just called me a nigga, you not my people. I dont care what happens to your home country whatsoever and dont need your help to fight WS in mine. Im Black American, we dont country hop running from white Europeans and begging them for jobs, we fight them in our homeland and change the conditions.

Guess you never heard of divide and conquer
good luck with that
I'm out
peace

Pan Africanism is dead. Only islanders still holding on because you are ashamed of your home countries for lack of history and pride so you rep a continent (not even a tribe or country like REAL Africans do) named by Euros. Africans are laughing at yall.



You want me to "unify" with that? Be honest you cant survive in America without us and need us but project onto us as a con. Well here's what we think....





Pan Africanism will die without Black Americans, we carried it and now its dying without us "niggas"

 

[KingTaharqa]

terra9 graduated from an HBCU but doesnt know anything about Jim Crow or Reconstruction only the Revolutionary War 300 years ago @VAiz4hustlaz

He also claims whites "run the planet" while downplaying Arab and Asian conquest in Africa. Our institutions have failed these people.

 

[Joe Money]

terra9 graduated from an HBCU but doesnt know anything about Jim Crow or Reconstruction only the Revolutionary War 300 years ago @VAiz4hustlaz

He also claims whites "run the planet" while downplaying Arab and Asian conquest in Africa. Our institutions have failed these people.

You stay on these people's necks!

He even dissed Northern Ireland, even though they have a legitimate struggle against the English, regardless of what the IRA does.

But a lot of these people have a worldview where there was a symbiotic relationship between slavery in the Caribbean and in the United States. And there is truth to this for a particular time period - say early-1600s to mid-1700s (this is also the period when African kingdoms were still selling captives to Europeans). But from 1800 to 1965, which is the penultimate period of slavery, the rise of the Southern economic empires based on slave labor and the adjacent Northern textile industry, Jim Crow, and later de jure segregation as well as being the period where ADOS coalesced into an ethnic and cultural group, the relationship between us and the so-called "diaspora" was virtually nil. Black immigration was "to the right of the decimal point", as Tone likes to say.

As far as they're concerned, a core part of our history should be negated and sacrificed on the alter of pan-Africanism or some kind of unified diaspora. No other group is told to do this. Sickening.

 

[KingTaharqa]

You stay on these people's necks!

He even dissed Northern Ireland, even though they have a legitimate struggle against the English, regardless of what the IRA does.

But a lot of these people have a worldview where there was a symbiotic relationship between slavery in the Caribbean and in the United States. And there is truth to this for a particular time period - say early-1600s to mid-1700s (this is also the period when African kingdoms were still selling captives to Europeans). But from 1800 to 1965, which is the penultimate period of slavery, the rise of the Southern economic empires based on slave labor and the adjacent Northern textile industry, Jim Crow, and later de jure segregation as well as being the period where ADOS coalesced into an ethnic and cultural group, the relationship between us and the so-called "diaspora" was virtually nil. Black immigration was "to the right of the decimal point", as Tone likes to say.

As far as they're concerned, a core part of our history should be negated and sacrificed on the alter of pan-Africanism or some kind of unified diaspora. No other group is told to do this. Sickening.

In one breathe he disses the US but had no problem going to school here and begging to be a citizen. Immigrants by nature are selfish, greedy, unpatriotic, and opportunist. These are people who left their families behind for money and riches and see white capital as an opportunity for a "better life", morality isnt their strong suit.

I did a search, tera9 has never said a disparaging word about the UK or Queen Elizabeth on this board. He has called me a nigga though after demanding I "unify" with him and says Im a "coon" (which is Black American slang he learned from us) if I dont see his people as mine. He's never mentioned reconstruction or jim crow in any post whatsoever on this board. But only the Revolutionary War so he can center himself in some common struggle with us.

I told you melenated settlers from UK territories view Elizabeth and the Crown the way Dominicans view Spain. They will never diss their oppressors who they view as family. Tera9 is closer culturally to a white person in London than he is a Black American in Beaumont, Texas.

 

[pimp1101]

In one breathe he disses the US but had no problem going to school here and begging to be a citizen. Immigrants by nature are selfish, greedy, unpatriotic, and opportunist. These are people who left their families behind for money and riches and see white capital as an opportunity for a "better life", morality isnt their strong suit.

I did a search, tera9 has never said a disparaging word about the UK or Queen Elizabeth on this board. He has called me a nigga though after demanding I "unify" with him and says Im a "coon" (which is Black American slang he learned from us) if I dont see his people as mine. He's never mentioned reconstruction or jim crow in any post whatsoever on this board. But only the Revolutionary War so he can center himself in some common struggle with us.

I told you melenated settlers from UK territories view Elizabeth and the Crown the way Dominicans view Spain. They will never diss their oppressors who they view as family. Tera9 is closer culturally to a white person in London than he is a Black American in Beaumont, Texas.

"I told you melenated settlers from UK territories view Elizabeth and the Crown the way Dominicans view Spain. They will never diss their oppressors who they view as family."

 

[pimp1101]

 

[pimp1101]

Kenyan Photographed in US Capitol Chaos Speaks Out - PostaMate

Kenyan spotted in the middle of the US Capitol Hill Chaos has denied involved in the mess that happened at Washington DC

postamate.com

“Look mate, I was minding my own business and these bunch of rednecks just scaled up the wall of the Capitol, and I was like what the hell! I followed them up the wall even as shots were being fired,” said Otieno, adding that the red Make America Great Again cap he was photographed wearing shouldn’t be used to justify he was part of the rioters.

 

[KingTaharqa]

 

[pimp1101]

 

[D24OHA]

The amount of contempt and disdain I hold for this misguided and intentionally divisive chick is bothersome......

I try to be "I don't beef with anyone black,"......

But this cac lover makes that difficult.

If the sitting President of the United States is intentionally spreading misinformation, instigating an insurrection and last but not least telling treasonous terrorists that he loves them.....at the very least getting "censored" on a privately owned social media company's platform should happen. If this was 40 yrs ago, Drumpf would be facing treason and sedition charges.....

Fuck her and anyone else that defends what that piece of orange shit did not only his last month in office but his entire 4 years

 

[phanatic]

I've only wished death on a few people, and she and her supporters have made the list of people I would like to die in a derailed roller coaster accident.

 

[roots69]

Good post

 

[KingTaharqa]

 

[blackbull1970]

So do ‘ADOS/FBA’

I wonder what they think now that Trump is back…