How are those players ACTUALLY performing?
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How are those players ACTUALLY performing?
The NBA doesnt have white players, and white people when they have small numbers use light skin and biracial people as "buffers". Look at any country in Africa or anywhere there is a small number of CACs with a huge Black population, there will be a "buffer" class. We see this same dynamic in the NBA. All the light skin and biracial superstars are coddled and held up as heroes for white fans to have someone to root for since aint no White Americans on the court. Every Black NBA player that is married to a white woman is marketed as a 'good guy'. Every single one! Kobe caught a rape charge and was still sold as a 'good guy' to white people just for having a white hispanic wife that he made sure to floss.
Now in the NFL, its not the same. The NFL has white superstars and players at the forefront of the league, so no need for a light skin and biracial "buffer" class of players. It doesnt matter and they dont care if Antonio Brown is a swirler with a bunch of mixed kids. He is marketed as a villain and 'bad guy'. Simply having a white wife doesnt make white fans like him. If he was in the NBA RIGHT NOW, he would be a hero and half this board would root for him to beat LeBron. His kids would also be locks to be drafted 20 years from now.
Steph Curry is a HOF player and one of the best of the 2010's but he was overrated grossly as a leader and comparable to all time greats. He also benefited from NBA colorism and the preference to see light skin superstar players and biracial players succeed at all costs to prop them up over the rest of the majority black players. BGOL specializes in this especially. Same way CACs make sure mediocre white QBS must succeed at all costs to prop them up over Black NFL QBs.
You kind of prove my point then. Curry benefited of having all stars around him & a loaded bench during their dynasty. Now cats are copping pleas talking about he's getting doubled and no one can shoot on GS. If I remember correctly someone said he'll win MVP & lead the league in scoring in this thread for this season. Well now is his chance.
Niggas dragged Harden & the Westbrooks of the world every way possible the past few years even though they were averaging crazy numbers, winning regular season games & getting doubled/trippled every night. Now when people want Curry to do the same thing on a less talented team, pleas are being copped.
And for the record I'm not a Curry hater but there has been a major bias for him compared to other stars.
I’m definitely not a Curry Hater either, I just call a spade a spade.
With the exception of KD, would Klay and Draymond be All-Stars without Steph and the system? The Warriors are just a well oiled machine that need all parts to function correctly. If one part is missing, then the team just isn’t that good.
When Steph, Klay or Draymond’s injured, the team’s success isn’t the same. Yes the same can be said from other teams, it’s just people feel that the Warriors are different.
And you’re right, pleas are getting copped right now for Steph.
If Steph was injured and Klay was healthy, the Warriors would be the same now or worse. I don’t know how it could get worse
but it’d be worse.And I like Steph and the Warriors so no hate over here.
This. Cats are arguing with me like I said he was a scrub. He is a great shooter but he is very limited. If I was starting a team today and had the benefit to get any player from any time he wouldn't crack my top 20. Facts hurt.
I like Curry too but I ain't no stan.I’m definitely not a Curry Hater either, I just call a spade a spade.
With the exception of KD, would Klay and Draymond be All-Stars without Steph and the system? The Warriors are just a well oiled machine that need all parts to function correctly. If one part is missing, then the team just isn’t that good.
When Steph, Klay or Draymond’s injured, the team’s success isn’t the same. Yes the same can be said from other teams, it’s just people feel that the Warriors are different.
And you’re right, pleas are getting copped right now for Steph.
If Steph was injured and Klay was healthy, the Warriors would be the same now or worse. I don’t know how it could get worse
And I like Steph and the Warriors so no hate over here.
Bu...Bu....This was the year they was Sappose to come back...with the lotterie pick an all to replace that nappy headed, traitor Nlgger KD. But Im steeler fan.....Besides, somebody still gotta stop the agenda/scuuurge of that awful, evil Nlgger Labronze
That view is a little off for several reasons. Everyone knows NO ONE has ever won anything without having a team. Most of us are surprised at how poorly Oubre and Wiggins are playing so you suggesting Curry STILL put up MVP numbers, etc. is beyond strange. I don't think anyone remotely objective would disagree with that. As far as the "other" stars? Don't lump losers in the same category. They get shit because they had chances to win and lost.
I’m definitely not a Curry Hater either, I just call a spade a spade.
With the exception of KD, would Klay and Draymond be All-Stars without Steph and the system? The Warriors are just a well oiled machine that need all parts to function correctly. If one part is missing, then the team just isn’t that good. When Steph, Klay or Draymond’s injured, the team’s success isn’t the same. Yes the same can be said from other teams, it’s just people feel that the Warriors are different. And you’re right, pleas are getting copped right now for Steph. If Steph was injured and Klay was healthy, the Warriors would be the same now or worse. I don’t know how it could get worse
Answer? Klay probably would. His stop and pop is probably the best in the NBA. Being a SG also helps. Every championship team is a well oiled machine. The last time I can think any team won a championship when losing a player was LA with Magic. The Warriors are different though. Different from he Rockets. Different from OKC. Different from any and all LeBron teams. Different players, different games, styles and schemes. Nothing wrong with being different. However, when it comes to injuries they are all the same.
As far as pleas for Steph? If folks were objective, knew the game or both no one should have to explain why the Warriors look so bad. Those two games saw the Warriors get wiped out but it's interesting how no one (but myself) mentioned the fact that KD and Kyrie scored in their low 20s like Steph. Giannis did the same thing. The Nets and Bucks wiped them off the floor with their OTHER players. Yet we're on here acting like Curry should not only one up (KD, Kyrie and Giannis) but also overcome the supporting cast alone because his is falling short.
The Warriors took a big chance. Swung and missed. It'll be a long season unless Green comes in and takes the ball away from Steph a few times, etc.
No offense but for n***** who like to argue (like myself) that's an easy one.
Stop with the pleas.. As a 2 time MVP who's still in his prime what's wrong with expecting to see Curry put up MVP numbers & have his team fighting for a playoff spot.
Its still early, he still got time this season to accomplish that. The excuses coming in for him 2 games in is funny to me.
Curry was going to have a rough season as soon as Klay got hurt. Klay allows Curry to chill on defense and Klay also spaces the floor for Curry so that he truly never gets doubled. Now he'll get true doubles on good nights and help defense other nights sent his way because teams will WANT guys like Wiggins shooting. Couldn't do that on previous Warriors' teams full of shooters. Plus, he'll have to generate more of his own offense now.. won't be off pick and rolls or ball rotation because people aren't chasing this current group of shooters around the perimeter. His fg percentage is going to suffer big time this season... from both tougher shots and from his legs being run down on both ends of the floor.
Having a player available and on the court makes a world of difference when it comes to overall performance. Giannis, Katie and Kyrie don’t need to score lots of points when they’re available and on the court ready to play.
Take Katie off of the Nets, and Kyrie will be looking like the current Steph!
Take Middleton off of the Buck and Giannis is looking funnier in the light!
KD’s ass was struggle when Steph or Klay was injured too!
When you don’t have your full lineup, then the defense can key in on you.
I KNEW mavs were gonna get cooked by LeBron..
After Cuban was talking all that slick sh*t on First Take.
I literally said the same thing a while back in this thread. This is not a knock on Curry but I also argued that he's not durable enough to carry such a load. He can't hide on defense, play a lot more minutes and expect him to put up big numbers when more targets are on his back.
That's what greatness does.
No idea what you're talking about
But that's par for the course. Curry stays on your mind like you miss your indian mom's home cooking.
Warriors have a fundamental problem that I've called attention to throughout these past 6 years. Documented on here and still remains until someone calls it out -- hopefully a reporter.
The Curry slander must cease. In every other argument about what another player had on their team vs what Curry has now there is 1 fundamental difference between EVERYTHING else.
Regardless of who that was, they had 1 thing Curry inexplicably doesn't have--- The ball in their hands.
Kerr has always out of stubbornness and the need to get credit, taken the ball out of his best player's hands when there is infinite sample size to show if it is in his hands they win and play better.
So especially NOW when the rest literally NEED curry to create the space and the shots for them... why doesn't Steve Kerr want his best player who is also THE POINT GUARD to have the ball in his hands?
Simple--- ego and stubbornness.
Curry gets these dudes wide-open shots even without the ball in his hands they're not knocking them down.
Give him the ball to create make or take every possession. It's not because he will get tired... because when he's not on the ball he's running around and through screens and cutting there's no argument to say him with the ball is more tiring than him without it.
That's that.
The Curry slander must cease. In every other argument about what another player had on their team vs what Curry has now there is 1 fundamental difference between EVERYTHING else.
Regardless of who that was, they had 1 thing Curry inexplicably doesn't have--- The ball in their hands.
Kerr has always out of stubbornness and the need to get credit, taken the ball out of his best player's hands when there is infinite sample size to show if it is in his hands they win and play better.
So especially NOW when the rest literally NEED curry to create the space and the shots for them... why doesn't Steve Kerr want his best player who is also THE POINT GUARD to have the ball in his hands?
Simple--- ego and stubbornness.
Curry gets these dudes wide-open shots even without the ball in his hands they're not knocking them down.
Give him the ball to create make or take every possession. It's not because he will get tired... because when he's not on the ball he's running around and through screens and cutting there's no argument to say him with the ball is more tiring than him without it.
That's that.
Curry player with 7 McDonald’s all Americans and lottery picks
And when curry wins finals mvp his lease will be up in my head.
Screens?
Nah...I don't do excuses. I tend to find REASONS for falling short. The equivalent of seeing a physician. No shit your shoulder hurts but WHY? Some of the folks here are just wired differently. For example. You're talking about excuses for Game 1 and Game 2 but Kyrie, KD and Giannis scored in the low twenties. Curry had a little less in Game 2. If Golden State had WON those games negroes would be in here talking about how he didn't do shit for the win, blah, blah, blah.....(lol) True or False? Of course we know that's TRUE which is why you talk about the REASONS GS is losing and the REASONS why one of the best shooters EVER isn't having his way with mofos. Peace.
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Have to admit I don't get what you're saying with all the weird spacing an laughing emojis (lol). What did I miss?
Having a player available and on the court makes a world of difference when it comes to overall performance. Giannis, Katie and Kyrie don’t need to score lots of points when they’re available and on the court ready to play. Take Katie off of the Nets, and Kyrie will be looking like the current Steph!
When you don’t have your full lineup, then the defense can key in on you.
Have to admit I don't get what you're saying with all the weird spacing an laughing emojis (lol). What did I miss?
Bro you say you're not but your clearly making excuses. Curry is needed more than ever to play at an MVP level for GS to win this year period.. Miss me with the supporting cast around him & the coaching.
Again its just 2 games in, they got washed by 2 title contenders so let's see how things are going in a month or two.
Reasons. Things happen for them. Having a conversation about the reason things happen doesn’t equate to offering excuses. That only comes into play when folks don’t want to hear them and there’s nothing wrong with that. Peace.
I have to admit that it looks perfect on my phone, the emoji’s at the end of the sentence. But the way it looks when you quoted it looks weird.
Not explaining, moving on.
I let it slide the first time but not this time. You’ve stated that KD and Kyrie both scored in the “Low Twenties”.
Kyrie dropped 37 and KD dropped 29 points yesterday.
Also, do they really need Draymond? They can tank again this season and get another lottery pick
Nothing to let slide. I clearly was talking about Golden State’s games. All three (KD, Kyrie and Giannis) scored low 20s.
Naw curry isn't a on ball person, he's best off screens when the offense creates space. No one fears Chriss from three nor Oubre nor Wiggins who can play but he's too shaky. He was showing signs of greatness in Minn with his game winners but he disappears too much.
Curry isn't a Chris Paul type of guard, I'd say Trae is more versatile then him since he's better at creating contact and running the offense.
Curry is mad limited and I'm not hater but this team shows that Curry can't do it alone, he's not built like that.
Chris paul will have these dudes showing heart, Curry isn't a on ball guard.
We gotta keep it 100... also Steve Kerr needs to adjust, my only question is anyone who seen Oubre play knows he's best around the rim, he's physical and plays hard the warriors system doesn't fit him since he's not a great open shooter.
What team did Kobe carry? Just curious. Didnt Kobe miss the playoffs when he played with less than? What about KG? How many missed playoffs or 1st round exits did he have? What about Paul Pierce? What about Wade? What about Kyrie? What about Ray ? What about PG? What about AD? What about CP? What about Harden? What about Butler? What about Beal? What about etc etc I can go on and on about all star players struggle to "carry" a team. All players struggle if they dont have teammates to play with them. Season aint over yet for GS....
You may like and enjoy basketball but to ask that question about Kobe?
You need to seriously go back and look at
Kobe’s stats, ASAP!
None of those other players you mentioned are two time MVP’s so they’re not in this discussion.
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