Karma, should have went to the Lakeshow.
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Karma, should have went to the Lakeshow.
I said this a while back that Curry could not put a team on his back by himself. Its still early but I still see them struggling even when Draymond comes back. If anything, we see how important Klay was to the Warriors dynasty.
When he won, like everyone else who has ever won, he was playing with people who could actually play. He is the ONLY point guard in the league that DEMANDS a double/triple team when he crosses half-court. Name another player in the NBA who commands a double team 90% of the time; especially that far away from the goal? LeBron? No. Durant? No. Say it with me. NOBODY.
You know what makes that muthafucka great? Yes, he's a phenomenal shooter but the fact that folks expect him to WIN with nobody on his team. Play MVP caliber ball with nobody on his team. Play great after almost a year off. The fact is if Steve Nash can win TWO, he can win TWO. The possibility of an unanimous vote is technically always on the table. He just happened to get it.
Textbook basketball. If you only one legitimate shooter on a team double him. It ain't rocket science. (lo)
Borderline retarded but I get the bias. (LOL)
Unanimous though? They won't make the playoffs this year. LeBron, Jordan, Durant, Shaq, Magic, Kareem, Wilt, Bird, Zeke etc...never won unanimous bruh.
He deserved to win but unanimous is complete bullshit.
Hey. Like I said earlier, isn't it ALWAYS on the table when these folks vote? Part of Curry's appeal is the fact that he accomplishes what he does (HOF shit) and he's only 6'2-6'3". Since 2000 the only "little" guys to win it was Allen Iverson, Steve Nash and Stephen Curry. Simply put it's uncommon and people are human. Which is more impressive? Durant at 7' dominating the game, James at 6'9", etc.? The fact that he accomplishes what he accomplishes while being smaller, shorter and double-teamed all the time (unlike the previous winners) is why and how you sway a few more votes.
Still, unanimous? A unanimous MVP should be able to carry his team to at least the 8th seed. Do you agree?
In the NBA? At this LEVEL? Not without a team. Every attribute that allowed him to win both MVPs is also rooted in the people around him. What would have happened had Klay, Green and company weren't there DURING his MVP run. He may not have made the 8th seed then.
If you put Curry on OKC last season, they wouldn't make the playoffs. Now that CP3 is gone they won't make the playoffs. I am not saying Curry is not a great player but he is not the best player in the history of the game as being selected as the only unanimous MVP in the history of the NBA would suggest.
How many games have they played
It's a reason that teams try and build shooters around players(Embiid, Lebron, Giannis)
The Warriors mistake was they didn't do it beyond Klay, KD and Steph
It's like look at that fuckin team
32% three point shooting Oubre and Wiggins are supposed to spread the floor and keep a second defender off Steph?
Curry isn't Westbrook. Golden State offense doesn't mirror OKC. The point it let's take a look at the years he ACTUALLY won. He won 2014-15 and 2015-16.
There were the top (8) teams in 2014 out West.
| 62-20 | March 22 | April 2 | April 11 | April 11 | ||
| 2 | 59-23 | March 27 | April 4 | — | — | |
| 3 | 57-25 | March 29 | April 2 | — | — | |
| 4 | 54-28[c] | April 4 | — | — | — | |
| 5 | 54-28[c] | April 6 | — | — | — | |
| 6 | 51-31 | April 11 | — | — | — | |
| 7 | 50-32 | April 14 | — | — | — | |
| 8 |
Would Steph has made the 8th seed minus either (Klay or Draymond) let alone both? The answer is CLEARLY NO he would not which proves the significance of having teammates. Westbrook had a TEAM (minus Durant). Their offense is literally designed for HIM. Kerr is a product of the Triangle and movement is the FIRST priority. All you need do is look at the number of shots being taken buy the lesser ball players to know what offense is being ran.
It's like look at that fuckin team
32% three point shooting Oubre and Wiggins are supposed to spread the floor and keep a second defender off Steph?
You're looking for ANSWERS to what you see. They're just looking at what they see.
Deal with it.It's like look at that fuckin team
32% three point shooting Oubre and Wiggins are supposed to spread the floor and keep a second defender off Steph?
Kobe had niggas like Devon George and Luke Walton winning RINGS
He was overrated as an overall player for being light skin second gen superstar and having an image that could be marketed to people who hate LeBron (bougie light skin NBA fans, white anglo people, white hispanic people, etc). Harden is a better overall player with more responsibility and a better overall body of work, despite his lack of team success. Unfortunately he's not light skinned and his dad isnt a former player so he doesnt get the same passes.
I said 3 years ago Steph would be judged by how he performs when hes not on an Olympic squad. He comes from privilege so I kinda knew hard work and leading scrubs thru tough times aint his strong suit.
Another example of raising the bar for Curry. Kobe had:
Ron Artest
Andrew Bynum
Pau Gasol
Trever Ariza
Lamar Odoam
Derek Fisher
Not sure what Kobe team you're talking about that won a ring.
What lightskinned nigga fucked your girl, sister or Mom and dumped them. Your ass is scarred Bruh. This shit is strange.
NBA is different now.
Luke Walton wouldn't have made the league unless he shot 37%+ from three
What brown skin man dumped your mom to make you overrate players just for being light skinned? The jig is up, yall overrated this dude the same way CACs overrate white QBs in the NFL. You put extras on how good he is. He's not even the greatest shooter of all time because he never shows it when it matters. Steph (and Klay) ushered in the whole "privileged NBA player" phenom that led to the game sucking so bad. Just a page ago dudes was saying they dont wanna watch this shit, guess why? We dont wanna see lazy rich kids that dont work hard or lead on the court, bring back the dogs from the projects please. I'd rather watch AI over Steph anyday because AI actually worked hard and wasnt handed everything just for having an image that was marketable.
If you take Curry off the team and place Klay there then it might be worse. They have a stay where they need all of their players to perform.
The fact that your ass uses the word overrated in a sentence with Curry you're crazy as fuck. The fact that you keep talking about this dude's skin tone shows the ULTIMATE bias. Shit. This is a board you can tell us why you hate light-skinned folks. No judgement. I hate short bitches to each his own, What happened?
They're not interested in the game Bruh. (lol)
Curry is overrated. He's not a great leader, not a great PG, he's a great shooter when the pressure isnt on. James Harden is a better overall basketball player than Steph Curry, with a better body of work. Harden has led sorry teams to the playoffs before, Steph Curry is 32 years old and we still waiting for him to prove he can do it.
Kobe had 2 back to back rings teams (also had 3 straight finals appearances (00-02,08-10)
First team had Devon George and glen rice
2nd team had luke Walton and Sasha vujucik
Stop with the curry excuses.
Wiggins and Kelly are fucking all American players and lottery picks
Foh
Prove that he can have an MVP season, get to the playoffs or win a chip with no one...Okay Bruh. (lol)
So I provide the ACTUAL Championship roster and THAT is what you got? Okay Bruh. (lol) Yeah, Kobe didn't win with the players I noted. (ol)
curry played with more all Americans than this year than anybody else.
And he had Dlo
@largebillsonlyplease
And he had Dlo
@largebillsonlyplease
Curry can’t carry a team, yes he’s a great shooter but he can’t carry a team. Carrying a team isn’t what Curry’s game is based on. Kyrie can’t carry a team, they all need the right system and players to win.
When KD and Klay were injured last year, we saw how hard it was for Steph. Again, he’s the best shooter ever. But carrying a team isn’t what he does.
The Warriors are a well oiled machine that need all parts to function correctly. Draymond’s not the best player on the team, but when he was out game 5 versus the Cavs. That was a huge part that caused them to lose the Finals.
And you keep saying “Nobody” is on the team. Not to compare but Lebron’s brought “Nobodies” to the Finals. But Lebron’s built to carry teams. They both have different responsibilities and have different games.
If you place Lebron on any team in the league, that team’s making the playoffs.
But this is about Steph, the Warriors system is a machine and they need all the parts to function correctly.
You provide other players that I didn’t name at all.
ok cool, none of them players stack up to GS players
Odom or Green?
Ariza or Klay?
Arrest or KD?
bynum or wiseman?
Dlo or Fisher?
See how I debunk your whole “roster” argument.
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