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:smh: Mitch needs to go. Only reason the White House had to take out UE for the direct payments was because of Mitch bitch ass. Trump and Mnuchin(called a democrat by republican senators) don't give not one fuck about spending. It's all Mitch.

The talk of leaving this to just Mitch, Pelosi, Mnuchin, and Schumer shouldn't inspire confidence. Leave Pelosi in a room with Mitch and Americans will fuck around and owe money. :smh:
 
I just had to throw this in so the objective BGOLers can have a fucking laugh. Any hardcore shills who doubt how bad pelosi and schumer fucked this up need to read below. This is about when they wanted UE tied to metrics. It's before Pelosi put on her $600 or nothing front to sabotage Trump. Now the metrics would qualify only 11 out of 50 states for 300 or more.

Swear to fucking christ these are :clown No wonder the 300 is barely getting action. They in meetings clowning these fools. :smh: This is not a fair fight.


www.wsj.com

Opinion | Schumer’s Unemployment Flip-Flop

His current Covid relief demands contradict his own bill from July.
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Democrats are outraged this week that the White House rejected their demand for four more months of $300 in weekly enhanced jobless payments in Covid relief talks. “That is unacceptable,” thundered Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer in a statement with House Speaker Nancy Pelosi. Would he say the same about legislation he introduced in July with Oregon Democrat Ron Wyden ?

The Senators’ bill would set up a tiered system to replace the Cares Act’s $600 extra in weekly federal benefits, which expired July 31. Folks in states with an unemployment rate of 11% or higher—calculated as a three-month average—would continue to get the extra $600. But that amount would decrease by $100 for each percentage-point drop in a state’s unemployment rate.

Jobless workers in a state with a 6% to 7% unemployment rate would receive only an extra $100 a week. The bill “would tie the extension of enhanced UI benefits to economic data—not politics,” Mr. Schumer said at the time. “As the need goes down, so will the benefits. As the need goes up, so will the benefits.”

He should look at the data now. Sixteen states including Virginia and South Carolina now have three-month-average unemployment rates (August through October, the latest data available) below 6%—meaning they wouldn’t be eligible for extra benefits under Mr. Schumer’s bill. Eleven states would land in the $100 tier. Only 11 states and Washington, D.C., would qualify for $300 or more.

Unemployment has been falling, especially in states that haven’t reimposed lockdowns. Mr. Schumer’s New York has one of the highest unemployment rates in the country at 9.6%. Like California (9.3%), it continues to enforce some of the strictest limitations on
 
Bernie Sanders Blasts ‘Grossly Unsatisfactory’ And ‘Unacceptable’ COVID-19 Relief Packages
“When children are going hungry in America today, suddenly we don’t have the money,” the senator said, calling for another round of $1,200 checks.


Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) sharply criticized Republicans’ latest COVID-19 relief proposals on Wednesday and called out the U.S. government for an inability to provide for its citizens.

“I always get a kick,” Sanders told MSNBC host Stephanie Ruhle. “Here in Washington, when we go to war, there’s endless amounts of money. Tax breaks for billionaires: endless amounts of money. Corporate welfare: endless amounts of money. But when children are going hungry in America today, suddenly we don’t have the money. That’s crap, that’s wrong.”

Sanders, along with Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) in the House, has demanded another round of $1,200 stimulus checks and critiqued a $908 billion bipartisan bill backed by Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah) and other centrists for not including direct assistance to Americans suffering from the coronavirus pandemic.

The Vermont senator called plans pushed by Republicans, like the $500 billion package supported by Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), “grossly unsatisfactory,” and said that a proposal from the White House earlier this week to distribute one-time $600 payments for most Americans ― but nothing for the unemployed ― was “unacceptable.” Sanders added that negotiations over an appropriate relief package would go on through Christmas if necessary.

“The question now is whether Mitch McConnell is going to turn his back ... on the incredible suffering that the American people, the working people, are now experiencing,” Sanders said, calling on Congress to “respond aggressively” to assist families impacted by the pandemic.
Sanders also pointed out that the U.S. was severely lacking in paid family and medical leave and took a moment to promote his “Medicare for All” proposal.

“If there’s anything that I hope this terrible, terrible pandemic is showing the American people, it’s how far behind we are other countries around the world in taking care of our children, taking care of the unemployed, taking care of the elderly, taking care of the sick. We’re the richest country in the history of the world. Ninety-two million people today are uninsured or underinsured. That is beyond belief.”
 
Ya'll aint gettin shit.
Thankfully I've been socking away money every month. I should come out of this better than I went in. January is going to be a crazy month.
 
Coldchi said:
like i said.................wont be no stimulus this year.
this will be an ongoing saga until there is a new congress next year.
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Even then, it will be grossly minimum as compared to what was initially proposed. Vaccine shots are going out on Monday. That opportunity has come and gone.
 
MistaPhantastic said:
Welp. Another week stalled away.
They are putting the CON in Congress!
I can't ever remember a time when Congress failed the people so badly.
Like I said, stall until the vaccine is released, then its pretend like the last 7 months didn't happen.
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I can't believe they took this extension and already word is out they taking one next week. :smh: Meanwhile, they taking weekends off and house took 4 days.

Republicans will be perfectly fine acting like the last 7 months happened because they doing it now. Democrats will spin it like they spun taking half the money that was offered just 2 months ago.

Shit is a joke at this point. Mitt says they got an agreement on 700 billion, but it's that state local/liability they spent all week fighting about. :smh: If they drop state local/liability, they can add in direct payments.
 
gene cisco said:
I can't believe they took this extension and already word is out they taking one next week. :smh: Meanwhile, they taking weekends off and house took 4 days.

Republicans will be perfectly fine acting like the last 7 months happened because they doing it now. Democrats will spin it like they spun taking half the money that was offered just 2 months ago.

Shit is a joke at this point. Mitt says they got an agreement on 700 billion, but it's that state local/liability they spent all week fighting about. :smh: If they drop state local/liability, they can add in direct payments.
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If this were another country, McConnell AND Pelosi would have been poisoned by now.
 
darth frosty said:
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To all y'all that gave us shit about supporting Bernie - THIS is why he deserves it. While everybody else is acting a fool, he's coming through with solutions and using his vote to get backing. Hats off to Josh Hawley, too. There's a republican that you at least know is trying to get something done.
They literally took the stimulus out of the stimulus bill! McConnell & Co. is really showing out!
Bernie said "fuck that", either come up offa that $1200 or I'mma shut this bitch down! He walked in on their asses with the bomb strapped to his chest and his thumb on the switch.
That is why Bernie gets respect. When it comes down to it, he's about that action rather than slick talk.
 
Welp, here it is. The bipartisan folks splitting the bills up and about to expose either McConnell, Pelosi, or both. Mitch bitch ass said he cool with dropping liability and state and local. If he keeps his word, it's all on Pelosi. But today she had a meeting with Mnuchin and word is the delusional, batshit bitch still screaming :eek: "state and local".

Seems like the bipartisan folks sick of the bullshit games Mitch and Pelosi playing for 5 months. The bill containing UE, PPP, and vaccine aid is around 700 billion. The state and local/Liability is 100 something billion.


www.bloomberg.com

Lawmakers to Unveil $908 Billion Pandemic Relief Plan Monday

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I believe the democrats' strategy is to hope for Georgia and see what happens. They are hoping that Georgians are suffering enough to flip the state and then they may try to come through with whatever.
Its all a game.

I suspect nothing will come of any of this. If they were serious about this, it would have been done. They (Congress) are all just capitalizing on the artificially bloated stock market right now while pretending to "negotiate" for the poor and working class.
After the holidays, when it all collapses, the republicans will blame Biden and the democrats will get the short end of the stick AGAIN.
Big business will soon learn that when nobody has money to spend, they will lose, too. Hard times ahead.
 
MistaPhantastic said:
I believe the democrats' strategy is to hope for Georgia and see what happens. They are hoping that Georgians are suffering enough to flip the state and then they may try to come through with whatever.
Its all a game.

I suspect nothing will come of any of this. If they were serious about this, it would have been done. They (Congress) are all just capitalizing on the artificially bloated stock market right now while pretending to "negotiate" for the poor and working class.
After the holidays, when it all collapses, the republicans will blame Biden and the democrats will get the short end of the stick AGAIN.
Big business will soon learn that when nobody has money to spend, they will lose, too. Hard times ahead.
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If Osoff and Warnock win, which is a possibility after seeing that Trump didn’t win GA, then we will see what happens. I’m voting democrat this go round just in case Congress doesn’t approve anything by the end of the week or before their vacation. Ppl I know in Atlanta are under this consensus: Based upon the NEW proposed pkgs, Repub do not want to extend unemployment benefits while Democrats do.
 
neptunes007 said:
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Okay. I delved into this a little more deeply out of curiosity.
So, there are four (technically five) bills on the table:

1. Nancy's 2.2T bill that Senate won't touch AT ALL. It has stimulus checks for $1200, unemployment relief, state and local government relief, vaccine funding, etc. Doesn't matter; Senate won't approve it.

2. The House bill of $908B that is basically a relief bill; no stimulus checks. $300 for unemployment starting Dec.31st. for 16 weeks. So, it doesn't help anyone already on unemployment. It also extends eviction protection until Jan. 31st.
This is the split bill that has $748B for emergency funding and $160B to state and local governments.

3. The Republicans' House $916B bill that has 5 year covid lawsuit protection for big businesses, some PPP protection and a $600 stimulus check to those who qualify - IF you qualify. This bill has 0 money for unemployment.

Both bills have some covid vaccine distribution funding.

4. Then there's Bernie Sanders and Josh Hawley's bill that is simply a $1200 stimulus check for all American adults and $500 for kids. They are trying to attach it to either the government shutdown bill or the stimulus packages up for vote.

5. There's also Mitch McConnell's $550B "fuck you" bill with money only going to businesses and no direct payments to people at all. Nobody is even looking at that one.

Both Trump who has said "go bigger on stimulus" and Biden, who is willing to sign whatever are in agreement that more aid is needed than what is being presented.

Bernie is suggesting a rejection of the $908B bill and I AGREE.
The only real relief this bill gives is to people who are going to be unemployed starting Dec. 31st. It has no back-dating. While its the only one that both parties even begin to agree on, its a shitty bill that doesn't do much unless you are getting evicted Dec. 31st. or going on unemployment on Dec. 31st. This bill says "fuck you" to everybody currently unemployed and businesses shut down by states due to lockdowns. It provides a little PPP relief to small businesses but doesn't really help individuals who may have been working, jobs got shut down and have been on lockdown (which is most of the people on unemployment).
This all comes off to me like a ploy to get the working/middle class to drain their savings trying to stay afloat while businesses are shut down unless they were essential workers.
The only place that seems to be truly benefiting from all of this is the stock market. Of course, that bubble will burst soon, too.
Congress should be brought up on treason charges.
Most of them are millionaires. I think they are just inflating the market for their own profits at the expense of the American public.

Yeah, yeah...I know...:colin:
 
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Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell vowed Tuesday that Congress would not adjourn for the year until it passed a new stimulus plan, in the surest sign yet that lawmakers will send a relief bill to President Donald Trump's desk before the end of the year.

"We're not leaving here without a COVID package," McConnell said Tuesday at the weekly Republican press conference.

"No matter how long it takes, we'll be here," he added.

The Kentucky Republican reiterated his offer from last week to put aside his push for a liability shield for employers against virus-related lawsuits if Democrats set aside their insistence on funding for state and local governments. Both issues have gummed up the negotiations for months.

McConnell pointed to President-elect Joe Biden's strong support for another relief package and said there would be more time next year to debate the two contentious issues.

"We all know the new administration will be asking for yet another package," McConnell said. "It's not like we won't have another opportunity to debate the merits of liability reform and of state and local government in the very near future."

Most Senate Democrats, apart from Joe Manchin of West Virginia, oppose the liability protections that McConnell has proposed. Many Republicans — though not all — have said that assisting state governments would amount to "a blue-state bailout" because they worry states would use the money to plug their public pension funds or spend it on other non-virus-related priorities.

McConnell first offered to set aside liability protections last week, but House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer turned him down. McConnell twice tried to bring a $500 billion relief bill to the Senate floor, but it was blocked by Democrats who panned it as insufficient.

"We have been trying for months," McConnell said. "We shouldn't have been put in this position."

But there are signs that Democratic opposition to punting the issue until next year is softening. House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer opened the door in a CNN interview on Sunday to omitting state and local aid from a relief package. Several Democrats in the House and Senate agree with that approach, which could put pressure on Democratic leaders.

Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin is speaking with Pelosi, McConnell, and Schumer at 4 p.m. on Tuesday to hammer out the deal, the speaker's office announced.

Schumer refused to say whether Democrats would drop their push for state and local funding. "I'm not going to get into negotiations in any way. That will occur at 4 o'clock," he said during Democrats' weekly press conference.

A group of bipartisan lawmakers attempted to end the logjam over a new federal rescue package on Monday by introducing two separate bills. One contained $748 billion in funding with provisions that most lawmakers support, and the other included the divisive issues over liability protections for businesses and state funding.

https://www.businessinsider.com/mit...gress-wont-break-year-stimulus-passes-2020-12
 
MistaPhantastic said:
Okay. I delved into this a little more deeply out of curiosity.
So, there are four (technically five) bills on the table:

1. Nancy's 2.2T bill that Senate won't touch AT ALL. It has stimulus checks for $1200, unemployment relief, state and local government relief, vaccine funding, etc. Doesn't matter; Senate won't approve it.

2. The House bill of $908B that is basically a relief bill; no stimulus checks. $300 for unemployment starting Dec.31st. for 16 weeks. So, it doesn't help anyone already on unemployment. It also extends eviction protection until Jan. 31st.
This is the split bill that has $748B for emergency funding and $160B to state and local governments.

3. The Republicans' House $916B bill that has 5 year covid lawsuit protection for big businesses, some PPP protection and a $600 stimulus check to those who qualify - IF you qualify. This bill has 0 money for unemployment.

Both bills have some covid vaccine distribution funding.

4. Then there's Bernie Sanders and Josh Hawley's bill that is simply a $1200 stimulus check for all American adults and $500 for kids. They are trying to attach it to either the government shutdown bill or the stimulus packages up for vote.

5. There's also Mitch McConnell's $550B "fuck you" bill with money only going to businesses and no direct payments to people at all. Nobody is even looking at that one.

Both Trump who has said "go bigger on stimulus" and Biden, who is willing to sign whatever are in agreement that more aid is needed than what is being presented.

Bernie is suggesting a rejection of the $908B bill and I AGREE.
The only real relief this bill gives is to people who are going to be unemployed starting Dec. 31st. It has no back-dating. While its the only one that both parties even begin to agree on, its a shitty bill that doesn't do much unless you are getting evicted Dec. 31st. or going on unemployment on Dec. 31st. This bill says "fuck you" to everybody currently unemployed and businesses shut down by states due to lockdowns. It provides a little PPP relief to small businesses but doesn't really help individuals who may have been working, jobs got shut down and have been on lockdown (which is most of the people on unemployment).
This all comes off to me like a ploy to get the working/middle class to drain their savings trying to stay afloat while businesses are shut down unless they were essential workers.
The only place that seems to be truly benefiting from all of this is the stock market. Of course, that bubble will burst soon, too.
Congress should be brought up on treason charges.
Most of them are millionaires. I think they are just inflating the market for their own profits at the expense of the American public.

Yeah, yeah...I know...:colin:
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You are entirely right my guy...just one thing

The unemployment in the House Bill for $908 would function just like the initial extra $600 and the extra $300 Trump gave in the executive order. Even those weren’t entirely retro active. I know ppl who never got the full extra $600/weekly benefits bc they signed up too late due to July 25th end date. If you are currently on unemployment you will receive an extension of reg unemployment rate (that was set to end this year) plus the extra $300 they are proposing for 4 months. At first, the House of Reps were trying to get it to be retro active from July then it went to October, now they are just starting from Dec. The benefit period for majority of the ppl was setup from March/April/May 2020-2021, so the system is already setup for ppl not to have to re-apply to receive the extra funding.

Right now the country has been stacking on more national debt. If Congress listened to the Democrats (Schumer and Warren) in Aug/Sept about forgiving/bailingout $50K of student loan debt from each borrower, then we could’ve actually had a more comprehensive package bc the proposed bailout would’ve put a dent in the national debt allowing for more funds for the Stimulus pkg. In which, Congress could do either the $3.4/ or $2.2 Trillion or the $1.9 Trillion pkgs.
 
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Politricks, you have to ask yourself sometimes, do politicians work for us or are we here to serve them!
 
Rudey said:
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Politricks, you have to ask yourself sometimes, do politicians work for us or are we here to serve them!
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Man, they can hide everything behind the left vs right concept.

And you wonder why Fox News never went away, those same people are used to do this type of stuff.

I remember Obama trying to pass something and in Kentucky somewhere white people were bitching that America can't afford it lol.

No cap.
 
Rudey said:
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Politricks, you have to ask yourself sometimes, do politicians work for us or are we here to serve them!
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Well, America is full of idiots who idolize and defend politicians instead of criticizing them. Check all the spineless shills on BGOL. They are no better than the mouthbreathing GOPers. They defended Pelosi and the democrats purposely trying to sabotage the economy just to win the election. So if that's what the 'good' guys do, you know the American people are fucked because the GOP is even worse. :smh:

These politicians won't get in line until they are on one-strike and out notice. These pieces of shit are more replaceable than minimum wage workers, yet people worship them.
 
gene cisco said:
Well, America is full of idiots who idolize and defend politicians instead of criticizing them. Check all the spineless shills on BGOL. They are no better than the mouthbreathing GOPers. They defended Pelosi and the democrats purposely trying to sabotage the economy just to win the election. So if that's what the 'good' guys do, you know the American people are fucked because the GOP is even worse. :smh:

These politicians won't get in line until they are on one-strike and out notice. These pieces of shit are more replaceable than minimum wage workers, yet people worship them.
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racism they just wanna protect white america and use them foot soldiers to silence everyone else. The BGOL democratic defenders are really no better than GOP defenders they just blame each other to neglect doing actual work. Both sides... both sides are really the issue.
 

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