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Joe Budden Sets Charlamagne Tha God Straight - UPDATE 9-12
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But see that's what I thought Charlamagne said. He said Joe keeps getting in these bad business deals. I didn't hear what he said after that so if he said other shit I didn't hear but I didn't think what he said was that outlandish but it trigged Joe.
And does Charlamagne not own this shit?
Charlemagne is an employee. This is the dame dash thing all over again. Charla can't speak on owner's business dealings while havig an employee mentality.
Brilliant idiots hasn't popped off like budden's podcast. It isn't charla's main source of income. If it was then that could be a different discussion.
Put it like this, a guy who makes $500k per yr as a major employee of a company can't talk shit about the business dealings of an owner who is trying to negotiate multi million dollar deals. It's just two different levels.
Charla doesn't understand taking upfront $$$ while giving up ownership of the business which generates way more than the upfront $$$ is a bad deal especially when your business is #1 on spotify. Lol
But see that's what I thought Charlamagne said. He said Joe keeps getting in these bad business deals. I didn't hear what he said after that so if he said other shit I didn't hear but I didn't think what he said was that outlandish but it trigged Joe.
And does Charlamagne not own this shit?
He’s part owner of LSN (Loud Speaker Network), that produces a few podcast...
Yeah I was gonna say I thought he owned one of them podcast networks......didnt' know it was LSN though.
So is there a difference in what Jay Z/Puff does and what Charlamagne does?
Or maybe he knows that they both are worth less than they think they are.
Do you think Charlemagne would go at Dave Chapelle for turning down a lower Netflix deal? Of course not. Because he knows he's worth more. Don't nobody give a fuck about that little weak ass Joe Budden podcast. Same as a Monique special. None of yall would have even watched it
Charlemage said years ago that Joe will always fuck his business up. Ever since then he is trying to prove himself right. He didn't know all the details and he opened his mouth to defend Spotify when he knows Joe and basically are business partners. What said on air could have easily been said private.
Also charlemgne does everything for money. And Joe just wants to own his products. Two different worlds. But Charlemagne thinks white man ice is colder.
They offered him 10 million or better I guess Spotify gives a damn. And also this ain't about money this is about your man's trying to get his deal better and you over there blocking it. Don't speak on it then turn around and say Im pro black this pro black this and we should help each otherOr maybe he knows that they both are worth less than they think they are.
Do you think Charlemagne would go at Dave Chapelle for turning down a lower Netflix deal? Of course not. Because he knows he's worth more. Don't nobody give a fuck about that little weak ass Joe Budden podcast. Same as a Monique special. None of yall would have even watched it
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Dude really thinks he's bigger in this industry than he really is. Its painful to hear him speak like that.
Then Joe did Spotify a favor. I watch clips of his show sometimes on Youtube. Its hard to get through em because they spend half the time cracking jokes instead of the topics. Im not mad at bro for wanting to fully own and run his shit....not selling out. But at some point you gotta realize this podcast shit aint gonna last forever. Just like the breakfast club...its about over. Had a good run. I still dont see how CTG was trying to block it either. What did I miss? At the end of the day that's between those two. I just didn't understand the 44 minute rant. Joe button stay on some yelling and crying shit
Dude really thinks he's bigger in this industry than he really is. Its painful to hear him speak like that.
Currently...yes. How all 3 started out?...no. Currently in 2020, Jay Z and Puff make millions from their brands which I believe they own and also leverage those brands into new business deals with other corporations (NFL/Ciroc).
Eventually though Jay Z and Puffy had to move into ownership of their brands being #1 in business priority in order to move to the next level of success (neither continue to make music as their main source of income).
Charlamagne can continue being a well paid employee if he chooses. There is nothing wrong with that. But it isn't the same as what Joe is trying to do.
On point
That is capitalism. You believe in communism so of course you don’t get it. Grow your own business (which I doubt you have) and get the same advantages. Every person should at least have an LLC, at minimum.
It also attests to POLICY making which is why you also sound ignorant when you say the parties are different. The outlets are there for you to take advantage of as well if you put the work in.
Being an employee should only be a means to an end for the so-called black man because our chances to make the top are limited. You are either stacking paper to move on or learning a or trade to take to the next level.
being an employee is the safe route but you will only go so far. It is like the difference between being a teenager and an adult.
being an employee is the safe route but you will only go so far. It is like the difference between being a teenager and an adult.
fucking moron always adding unnecessary shit to the convo. I didn't say shit about any parties in this thread. that's your goto argument, not mine.
yeah, I'm a communist, because I argue that regular folk should get some of the same benefits corporations get.
Gee, I wonder how I know about schedule c's. Maybe I filed a few over the years,who fucking knows.
Shut the fuck up and leave the conversations to the adults.
Nothing unnecessary about it. Who sets the laws? I thought you’d know because of all the political threads you are in. Good for you, brotha.fucking moron always adding unnecessary shit to the convo. I didn't say shit about any parties in this thread. that's your goto argument, not mine.
yeah, I'm a communist, because I argue that regular folk should get some of the same benefits corporations get.
Gee, I wonder how I know about schedule c's. Maybe I filed a few over the years,who fucking knows.
Shut the fuck up and leave the conversations to the adults.
why should “regular folk” get the same breaks as business? let’s hear your argument because you’ve already shown you know little about the money and banking system.
That dame dash interview comes back to life on what he was talking.. some people got mad at a few of his comments but in the end his main message was correct..yrs later it stills shows how breakfast club should of went independent
but they like gary vee
you are not as smart as you pretend to be...have a blessed day
Hilariousfucking moron always adding unnecessary shit to the convo. I didn't say shit about any parties in this thread. that's your goto argument, not mine.
yeah, I'm a communist, because I argue that regular folk should get some of the same benefits corporations get.
Gee, I wonder how I know about schedule c's. Maybe I filed a few over the years,who fucking knows.
Shut the fuck up and leave the conversations to the adults.
Joe does tend to get emotional, but he's not wrong. Based on what I can figure out, Spotify wanted to give them a 360 deal and wanted more control over the show. I do believe some things Joe was saying may have been bullshit as far as the reason for the errors in the first contract, but that is irrelevant as far as the new talks.
CHG focused on the petty things like Joe not better negotiation vacation time on the first contract while neglecting to mention Joe's real reason for not wanting to stay with Spotify. The real issue is CHG views Joe as a fuck up so he will never believe Joe's view point without a third person standing up for and confirming Joe's point of view. Its hard to break your opinion of people even if they really have changed or just happen to be right this time.
Nick Canon is a perfect example of what happens when you give others ownership of your lifes work. They take your show, cancel it and tell you to get the fuck. Give it a few years and I'm sure Viacom will reboot the show without Nick and those who aren't willing to work without Nick.
CHG focused on the petty things like Joe not better negotiation vacation time on the first contract while neglecting to mention Joe's real reason for not wanting to stay with Spotify. The real issue is CHG views Joe as a fuck up so he will never believe Joe's view point without a third person standing up for and confirming Joe's point of view. Its hard to break your opinion of people even if they really have changed or just happen to be right this time.
Nick Canon is a perfect example of what happens when you give others ownership of your lifes work. They take your show, cancel it and tell you to get the fuck. Give it a few years and I'm sure Viacom will reboot the show without Nick and those who aren't willing to work without Nick.
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"Contract/Benchmarks etched in stone"
"We had the answers to the questions, so they just changed the questions."
"But, but Joe budden be doing bad business. He thinks he's worth more than what he is."
"Monique just isn't worth the $$$ she thinks she is."
One day my ppl gonna learn. As the elders used to say, a hard head makes a soft behind.
Don't tell Dame Dash this.
You're very wrong, brother
About what???
Monique's situation was different she acted like a DIVA before earning money with Netflix. Joe has shown his worth and when it was time to pay him that worth, Spotify decided to offer him a 360 deal and make a play for control of his venture. Basically they tried to buy him out, and take control of his brand without saying "we're buying you out". Which is a major mistake, because its offensive unless somebody wants to be bought out.
Then add to that the fact that Simmons and Rogan got better deals without outproducing Budden and yeah he has every right to be offended. This was an attempt to exploit him like he was an idiot.
Joe Rogan? I just went to all his videos and they have millions of views. Joe Budden podcast doesn't have a single video with over 1 million views.
Joe Rogan Experience 9.45 million subscribers
Joe Budden Podcast 918k subscribers
These are Youtube numbers. But hey, what do I know?
I should have made my point a little clearer.
I will admit my definition of "crumbs" was pretty wide in this case since I was thinking about everything from welfare to small business loans, to low interest mortgages.
I'm not disagreeing with your overall point. Don't think people should see welfare as a permanent solution, if healthy. However as a temporary solution (I know temporary is debatable), I have no issue with it.
As for the rest, my argument is based on what happened when Covid hit. A lot of the companies got big chunks of grants and low interest loans, well after they made a ton of money from the tax cut. Meanwhile, folks that have been buried under student loan debt can't get any type of relief, for example.
Although, republicans (in this case) keep telling folks they don't need government to succeed, companies who really don't need government to succeed always get whatever they ask for from the government (at least with this administration).
Before X-Tard comes in with one of his babbling rants, I understand that is the system and how it was setup. However, it doesn't mean I have to like it.
So, Joe turned down a more lucrative deal from black owned company (Hov/Tidal) to sign less lucrative deal with a white owned company (Spotify), because white owned company agreed to provide "information". Less than a year in the deal white owned company stopped providing information and apparently Joe had no legal recourse for that. Also, Joe did not get the bonus he says he was entitled to but apparently has no legal recourse for that or he is just letting Spotify slide on half a million dollars. Also, a guy who owns is podcast is asking someone else for a day off.
No one is arguing that Joe is not getting paid his worth or that he is wrong for wanting to retain ownership. He is correct on both accounts. The debate is how he reacts in his business dealings and how he negotiates his deals.
No one is arguing that Joe is not getting paid his worth or that he is wrong for wanting to retain ownership. He is correct on both accounts. The debate is how he reacts in his business dealings and how he negotiates his deals.
Why Joe Rogan's exclusive Spotify deal matters
His popular show, The Joe Rogan Experience, will soon be removed from all other platforms.
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"It will remain free, and it will be the exact same show," said Rogan. "It's just a licensing deal, so Spotify won't have any creative control over the show.
"They want me to just continue doing it the way I'm doing it right now.
That’s the thing those are YouTube numbers. Budden makes Spotify a lot more money than Rogan for Spotify and outperforms him on their platform. They should have came correct, and just offered Budden a licensing deal as well. The fact they tried to get a piece of any potential YouTube money Budden can get and have creative control was an attempt at a jux move.
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