You wanna talk "Tangibles" House Democrats to Pass Their Own Stimulus Bill Despite Ongoing Talks with Mnuchin

WHICH PLAN/PARTY ARE YOU VOTING FOR???

  • DEMS - HEROES ACT

  • GOP - HEALS ACT

  • PROBLEM SOLVERS PROPOSAL


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Pelosi released a statement about an hour later, blaming Republicans’ reluctance to compromise with Democrats on the budget for the next round of COVID-19-related assistance as the sole reason progress is at a standstill.

“Originally, House and Senate Democrats made clear we would be willing to cut a trillion dollars if the White House would add a trillion for a bill. In order to meet in the middle, we have now said we would be willing to go to 2.2 trillion to meet the needs of the American people,” Pelosi said.

Prior to the call, Pelosi also made it clear that she wasn’t entering into the conversation with high hopes for a fruitful discussion, telling Capitol Hill reporters that she was merely trying to be respectful of the fact that Meadows, who represents the President, requested the call.

Talks between the two sides remain at an impasse as both sides have dug in their heels when it comes to their respective pandemic relief packages. Today’s conversation was the first attempt to revive negotiations since they collapsed in early August.

Both sides have agreed that more aid is paramount to helping the country move forward from the pandemic, but they remain deadlocked on how to get there.

“Democrats are willing to resume negotiations once Republicans start to take this process seriously,” said Pelosi in her statement. “Lives, livelihoods and the life of our democracy are at stake.”


Republicans tried to provide a stop-gap measure in the form of an Aug. 18 draft for a “skinny” relief bill based on their HEALS Act. Their pared-down proposal included a $300 weekly unemployment benefit through December 27, a $121100 increase from the amount originally included in the HEALS Act.

But Democrats, led by Pelosi and Senate Democratic Minority Leader Charles Schumer (D-NY) roundly rejected the narrow proposal, remaining steadfast in their stance that anything less than resuming a $600-a-week unemployment benefit, as outlined in their version of a second stimulus package known as the HEROES Act, was unacceptable.



you disagree that? mind you no one is talking any of the extraneous stuff in the bill the impasse seems to be whether to GRANT unemployed American taxpayers 600 or LESS in unemployment insurance.

Pelosi and many economists agreed that the 600 a week actually helped...

republicans say it was too generous and discourages people from finding work (where the jobs are is another issue apparently)
When it comes to the dems some people are just contrarians.
If they were to go with whatever the Republicans put up. Then you'd have those who would say democrats always cave. Democrats are always in a catch 22 position because of how open and vast the party is compared to the small and closed republican party.
 
dude...when you look at it you see why people are motivated to go one or the other..its not about plantations and coons its about real world issues and how people have to deal with it.

and you can clearly see not just WHO bullshits but HOW they bullshit. When forced to choose ON A MESSAGEBOARD POLL xfactor and tito jackson chose to RUN.

And xfactor was especially bullshitty with that post the whole bill...we can't talk about until the whole bill is posted shit

1. he could easily have posted the information for both sides...nothing was stopping him.
2. he comes off like he has ALL the info from both plans yet STILL didn't make a choice even in a SCENARIO...think about that.

yet both of them STILL want to participate and talk shit. EXPOSED! in a real way.

We all have to deal with the world the way it is....not the way it ought be. Becuz of that you have to make choices based on the hand your dealt and the position your in. And if you don't choose then OTHERS/LIFE will choose for you...in life NO ONE gets to be "above the fray" so it is in this thread on this topic.

CHOOSE A PLAN...PICK A SIDE AND DEFEND YOUR CHOICE. The Republican plan is or the Democrat plan is better BECAUSE...

I respect that more than just posting bullshit and trying to play it off. :rolleyes2: :rolleyes2: :rolleyes2:

Thank you BLACK MAN for exposing these frauds.

BMOB STAND UP!
 
Um, you know Uber and Lyft are fucked now due to Covid. My sister in law drives that shit and she's looking for another gig. Jobs aren't out there dude. The economy is in the tank and nobody is hiring. At least not for a lot of the job market.
 
seems to me like they're trying to get everything while the opportunity is here. Thats why the price tag is so high...3 trillion.

116th CONGRESS
2d Session
H. R. 6800




Making emergency supplemental appropriations for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2020, and for other purposes.

IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES
May 20, 2020
Received
May 21, 2020
Read the first time
June 1, 2020
Read the second time and placed on the calendar
AN ACT
Making emergency supplemental appropriations for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2020, and for other purposes.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as “The Heroes Act”.
SEC. 2. TABLE OF CONTENTS.

The table of contents for this Act is as follows:

DIVISION A—CORONAVIRUS RECOVERY SUPPLEMENTAL APPROPRIATIONS ACT, 2020

Title I—Agriculture, Rural Development, Food and Drug Administration, and Related Agencies
Title II—Commerce, Justice, Science, and Related Agencies
Title III—Financial Services and General Government
Title IV—Homeland Security
Title V—Interior, Environment, and Related Agencies
Title VI—Departments of Labor, Health and Human Services, and Education, and Related Agencies
Title VII—Legislative Branch
Title VIII—Department of State, Foreign Operations, and Related Programs
Title IX—Transportation, Housing and Urban Development, and Related Agencies
Title X—General Provisions—This Division
DIVISION B—REVENUE PROVISIONS

Title I—Economic stimulus
Title II—Additional relief for workers
Title III—Net operating losses
DIVISION C—HEALTH PROVISIONS

Title I—Medicaid Provisions
Title II—Medicare Provisions
Title III—Private Insurance Provisions
Title IV—Application to Other Health Programs
Title V—Public Health Policies
Title VI—Public Health Assistance
Title VII—Other matters
DIVISION D—RETIREMENT PROVISIONS

Title I—Relief for Multiemployer Pension Plans
Title II—Relief for Single Employer Pension Plans
Title III—Other Retirement Related Provisions
DIVISION E—CONTINUED ASSISTANCE TO UNEMPLOYED WORKERS
DIVISION F—ASSISTANCE TO AGRICULTURAL PRODUCERS AND OTHER MATTERS RELATING TO AGRICULTURE

Title I—Livestock
Title II—Dairy
Title III—Specialty Crops and Other Commodities
Title IV—Commodity Credit Corporation
Title V—Conservation
Title VI—Nutrition
DIVISION G—ACCOUNTABILITY AND GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS

Title I—Accountability
Title II—Census Matters
Title III—Federal Workforce
Title IV—Federal Contracting Provisions
Title V—District of Columbia
Title VI—Other Matters
DIVISION H—VETERANS AND SERVICEMEMBERS PROVISIONS
DIVISION I—SMALL BUSINESS PROVISIONS
DIVISION J—SUPPORT FOR ESSENTIAL WORKERS, AT-RISK INDIVIDUALS, FAMILIES, AND COMMUNITIES

Title I—Family Care for Essential Workers
Title II—Pandemic Emergency Assistance and Services
Title III—Program Flexibility During the Pandemic
DIVISION K—COVID–19 HERO ACT

Title I—Providing Medical Equipment for First Responders and Essential Workers
Title II—Protecting Renters and Homeowners from Evictions and Foreclosures
Title III—Protecting People Experiencing Homelessness
Title IV—Suspending Negative Credit Reporting and Strengthening Consumer and Investor Protections
Title V—Forgiving Student Loan Debt and Protecting Student Borrowers
Title VI—Standing Up For Small Businesses, Minority-Owned Businesses, and Non-Profits
Title VII—Empowering Community Financial Institutions
Title VIII—Providing Assistance for State, Territory, Tribal, and Local Governments
Title IX—Providing Oversight and Protecting Taxpayers
DIVISION L—FAMILIES, WORKERS, AND COMMUNITY SUPPORT PROVISIONS

Title I—Amendments to Emergency Family and Medical Leave Expansion Act and Emergency Paid Sick Leave Act
Title II—COVID–19 Workforce Development Response Activities
Title III—COVID–19 Every Worker Protection Act of 2020
Title IV—Community and Family Support
Title V—COVID–19 Protections under Longshore and Harbor Workers’ Compensation Act
DIVISION M—CONSUMER PROTECTION AND TELECOMMUNICATIONS PROVISIONS

Title I—COVID–19 Price Gouging Prevention
Title II—E–Rate Support for Wi-Fi Hotspots, Other Equipment, and Connected Devices
Title III—Emergency Benefit for Broadband Service
Title IV—Continued Connectivity
Title V—Don’t Break Up the T–Band
Title VI—National Suicide Hotline Designation
Title VII—COVID–19 Compassion and Martha Wright Prison Phone Justice
Title VIII—Healthcare Broadband Expansion During COVID–19
DIVISION N—GIVING RETIREMENT OPTIONS TO WORKERS ACT
DIVISION O—EDUCATION PROVISIONS AND OTHER PROGRAMS

Title I—Higher Education Provisions
Title II—Other Programs
DIVISION P—ACCESS ACT
DIVISION Q—COVID–19 HEROES FUND

Title I—Provisions relating to State, Local, Tribal, and Private Sector Workers
Title II—Provisions relating to Federal employees and COVID–19
Title III—Coordination of benefits with other programs and laws
DIVISION R—CHILD NUTRITION AND RELATED PROGRAMS
DIVISION S—OTHER MATTERS

Title I—Health Care Access for Urban Native Veterans Act
Title II—Tribal School Federal Insurance Parity
Title III—PRC for Native Veterans Act
Title IV—Wildlife-Borne Disease Prevention
Title V—Pandemic Relief for Aviation Workers and Passengers
Title VI—Amtrak and Rail Workers
Title VII—Energy and Environment Provisions
Title VIII—Death and disability benefits for public safety officers impacted by COVID–19
Title IX—Victims of Crime Act Amendments
Title X—Jabara-Heyer NO HATE Act
Title XI—Prisons and Jails
Title XII—Immigration Matters
Title XIII—Coronavirus Relief Fund Amendments
Title XIV—Rural Digital Opportunity
Title XV—Foreign Affairs Provisions
Title XVI—Scientific Integrity Act
DIVISION T—ADDITIONAL OTHER MATTERS

if you could point out where that is to cuz I didn't see it among the links to titles.

Institute Of Museum And Library Services

office of museum and library services: grants and administration

For an additional amount for “Institute of Museum and Library Services”, $5,000,000, to remain available until September 30, 2021, to prevent, prepare for, and respond to coronavirus, including grants to States, territories, tribes, museums, and libraries, to expand digital network access, purchase internet accessible devices, provide technical support services, and for operational expenses: Provided, That any matching funds requirements for States, tribes, libraries, and museums are waived for grants provided with funds made available under this heading in this Act: Provided further, That such amount is designated by the Congress as being for an emergency requirement pursuant to section 251(b)(2)(A)(i) of the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985.


Railroad Retirement Board

limitation on administration

For an additional amount for “Limitation on Administration”, $4,500,000, to remain available until September 30, 2021, to prevent, prepare for, and respond to coronavirus, including the expeditious dispensation of railroad unemployment insurance benefits, and to support full-time equivalents and overtime hours as needed to administer the Railroad Unemployment Insurance Act: Provided, That such amount is designated by the Congress as being for an emergency requirement pursuant to section 251(b)(2)(A)(i) of the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985.



Higher Education

For an additional amount for “Higher Education”, $10,150,000,000, to remain available until September 30, 2021, to prevent, prepare for, and respond to coronavirus, of which $11,000,000 shall be transferred to “National Technical Institute for the Deaf” to help defray expenses (which may include lost revenue, reimbursement for expenses already incurred, technology costs associated with a transition to distance education, sign language and captioning costs associated with a transition to distance education, faculty and staff trainings, and payroll) directly caused by coronavirus and to enable emergency financial aid to students for expenses directly related to coronavirus and the disruption of university operations (which may include food, housing, transportation, technology, health care, and child care), of which $20,000,000 shall be transferred to “Howard University” to help defray expenses (which may include lost revenue, reimbursement for expenses already incurred, technology costs associated with a transition to distance education, technology costs associated with a transition to distance education, faculty and staff trainings, and payroll) directly related to coronavirus and to enable grants to students for expenses directly related to coronavirus and the disruption of university operations (which may include food, housing, transportation, technology, health care, and child care), of which $11,000,000 shall be transferred to “Gallaudet University” to help defray expenses (which may include lost revenue, reimbursement for expenses already incurred, technology costs associated with a transition to distance education, sign language and captioning costs associated with a transition to distance education, faculty and staff trainings, and payroll) directly related to coronavirus and to enable grants to students for expenses directly related to coronavirus and the disruption of university operations (which may include food, housing, transportation, technology, health care, and child care), and of which the remaining amounts shall be used to carry out parts A and B of title III, parts A and B of title V, subpart 4 of part A of title VII, and part B of title VII of the Higher Education Act of 1965 (“HEA”) as follows:

(1) $1,708,000,000 for parts A and B of title III, parts A and B of title V, and subpart 4 of part A of title VII of the HEA to address needs directly related to coronavirus: Provided, That such amount shall be allocated by the Secretary proportionally to such programs covered under this paragraph and based on the relative share of funding appropriated to such programs in the Further Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2020 (Public Law 116–94) and distributed to institutions of higher education as follows:

(A) Except as otherwise provided in subparagraph (B), for eligible institutions under part B of title III and subpart 4 of part A of title VII of the Higher Education Act, the Secretary shall allot to each eligible institution an amount using the following formula:

(i) 70 percent according to a ratio equivalent to the number of Pell Grant recipients in attendance at such institution at the end of the school year preceding the beginning of that fiscal year and the total number of Pell Grant recipients at all such institutions;

(ii) 20 percent according to a ratio equivalent to the total number of students enrolled at such institution at the end of the school year preceding the beginning of that fiscal year and the number of students enrolled at all such institutions; and

(iii) 10 percent according to a ratio equivalent to the total endowment size at all eligible institutions at the end of the school year preceding the beginning of that fiscal year and the total endowment size at such institutions;

(B) For eligible institutions under section 326 of the Higher Education Act, the Secretary shall allot to each eligible institution an amount in proportion to the award received from funding for such institutions in the Further Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2020 (Public Law 116–94);

(C) For eligible institutions under section 316 of the Higher Education Act, the Secretary shall allot funding according to the formula in section 316(d)(3) of the Higher Education Act;

(D) Notwithstanding section 318(f) of the Higher Education Act, for eligible institutions under section 318 of the Higher Education Act, the Secretary shall allot funding according to the formula in section 318(e) of the Higher Education Act;

(E) Except as provided in subparagraphs (C) and (D), for eligible institutions under part A of title III of the Higher Education Act and parts A and B of title V, the Secretary shall issue an application for eligible institutions to demonstrate unmet need, and the Secretary shall allow eligible institutions to apply for funds under one of the programs for which they are eligible.

(2) $8,400,000,000 for part B of title VII of the HEA for institutions of higher education (as defined in section 101 or 102(c) of the HEA) to address needs directly related to coronavirus as follows:

(A) $7,000,000,000 shall be provided to private, nonprofit institutions of higher education—

(i) by reserving an amount necessary to make the minimum grants described in the second to last proviso under this heading; and

(ii) from amounts not reserved under clause (i), by apportioning—

(I) 75 percent according to the relative share of enrollment of Federal Pell Grant recipients who are not exclusively enrolled in distance education courses prior to the coronavirus emergency; and

(II) 25 percent according to the relative share of the total enrollment of students who were not Federal Pell Grant recipients who are not exclusively enrolled in distance education courses prior to the coronavirus emergency.

(B) $1,400,000,000 shall be for institutions of higher education with unmet need related to the coronavirus, including institutions of higher education that offer their courses and programs exclusively through distance education:

Provided, That funds shall be used to make payments to such institutions to provide emergency grants to students who attended such institutions at any point during the coronavirus emergency and for any component of the student’s cost of attendance (as defined under section 472 of the HEA), including tuition, food, housing, course materials, technology, health care, and child care): Provided further, That institutions of higher education may use such funds to defray expenses (including lost revenue, reimbursement for expenses already incurred, technology costs associated with a transition to distance education, faculty and staff trainings, and payroll) incurred by institutions of higher education: Provided further, That such payments shall not be used to increase endowments or provide funding for capital outlays associated with facilities related to athletics, sectarian instruction, or religious worship: Provided further, That any private, nonprofit institution of higher education that is not otherwise eligible for a grant of at least $1,000,000 under paragraph (2)(A)(ii) of this heading and has a total enrollment of at least 500 students shall be eligible to receive, from amounts reserved under paragraph (2)(A)(i), an amount equal to whichever is the lesser of the total loss of revenue and increased costs associated with the coronavirus or $1,000,000: Provided further, That of the funds provided under paragraph 2(B), the Secretary shall make an application available for institutions of higher education to demonstrate unmet need, which shall include for this purpose a dramatic decline in revenue as a result of campus closure, exceptional costs or challenges implementing distance education platforms due to lack of a technological infrastructure, serving a large percentage of students who lack access to adequate technology to move to distance education, serving a region or community that has been especially impacted by increased unemployment and displaced workers, serving communities or regions where the number of coronavirus cases has imposed exceptional costs on the institution, and other criteria that the Secretary shall identify after consultation with institutions of higher education or their representatives: Provided further, That no institution may receive an award unless it has submitted an application that describes the impact of the coronavirus on the institution and the ways that the institution will use the funds to ameliorate such impact: Provided further, That the Secretary shall brief the Committees on Appropriations fifteen days in advance of making any application available for funds under paragraph (2)(B): Provided further, That such amount is designated by the Congress as being for an emergency requirement pursuant to section 251(b)(2)(A)(i) of the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985.



United States Fish And Wildlife Service

resource management

For an additional amount for “Resource Management”, $21,000,000, to remain available until expended for research; listing injurious species; electronic permitting system development; operation and maintenance; law enforcement interdiction and inspections; and other support activities, as described in sections 190402, 190403, and 190404 of division S of this Act: Provided, That amounts may be transferred to “Surveys, Investigations and Research” in the United States Geological Survey; “National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration” in the Department of Commerce; and the “Center for Disease Control” in the Department of Health and Human Services: Provided further, That such amount is designated by the Congress as being for an emergency requirement pursuant to section 251(b)(2)(A)(i) of the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985.

state and tribal wildlife grants

For an additional amount for “State and Tribal Wildlife Grants”, $50,000,000, to remain available until expended, for a onetime grant program as described in section 190405 of division S of this Act: Provided, That such amount is designated by the Congress as being for an emergency requirement pursuant to section 251(b)(2)(A)(i) of the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985.

These proposals through out the HEROES Act are not important as un-employement and PPP. Like why out of all the schools why is Howard specifically getting 20 mil and Gauladet 11 mil. Why is that really important? That could be done in a separate stimulus update. Or even 5 million going to Museum and LIbrary Services. For what ppl are barely allowed to gather outside rather inside a museum . The Dems are just trying to put everyones issue in the stimulus at once, but all those issues are nothing compared to what the ppl and small businesses need. You can't fix everyone's issue at once especially with debt.
 
science and data should be the determining factor in this situation. At some point, the pandemic will be declared over at which time the money stops plain and simple. That's how you solve that issue... At some point, all of it...pandemic/social distancing all of it has to come to an end and even tho people will still get sick and die the world has to move on. And at that point, we will move into a regular economic downturn which we experienced a decade ago and people dealt with it without special funds from the govt. But for right here...right now?? we're dealing with a pandemic and jobs are being lost because of it so the 600 dollars is necessary. And it's all going directly back into the economy anyway so what's the big deal?
Listen man, I agree. I'm all for 600. All I am saying is 400 is better than nothing. When doing any business deal or sale, you have to know what to expect from the other side. Getting the republicans to agree to 400 until 2021 was huge IMHO. Some of them heartless bastards don't even want to cough up 200 a week. :smh:

If I didn't know any better, I'd swear she is purposefully fucking this up in hopes that people will be in such bad shape come election time that the dems can win on hopes of making it rain in January.
 
Institute Of Museum And Library Services

office of museum and library services: grants and administration

For an additional amount for “Institute of Museum and Library Services”, $5,000,000, to remain available until September 30, 2021, to prevent, prepare for, and respond to coronavirus, including grants to States, territories, tribes, museums, and libraries, to expand digital network access, purchase internet accessible devices, provide technical support services, and for operational expenses: Provided, That any matching funds requirements for States, tribes, libraries, and museums are waived for grants provided with funds made available under this heading in this Act: Provided further, That such amount is designated by the Congress as being for an emergency requirement pursuant to section 251(b)(2)(A)(i) of the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985.


Railroad Retirement Board

limitation on administration

For an additional amount for “Limitation on Administration”, $4,500,000, to remain available until September 30, 2021, to prevent, prepare for, and respond to coronavirus, including the expeditious dispensation of railroad unemployment insurance benefits, and to support full-time equivalents and overtime hours as needed to administer the Railroad Unemployment Insurance Act: Provided, That such amount is designated by the Congress as being for an emergency requirement pursuant to section 251(b)(2)(A)(i) of the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985.



Higher Education

For an additional amount for “Higher Education”, $10,150,000,000, to remain available until September 30, 2021, to prevent, prepare for, and respond to coronavirus, of which $11,000,000 shall be transferred to “National Technical Institute for the Deaf” to help defray expenses (which may include lost revenue, reimbursement for expenses already incurred, technology costs associated with a transition to distance education, sign language and captioning costs associated with a transition to distance education, faculty and staff trainings, and payroll) directly caused by coronavirus and to enable emergency financial aid to students for expenses directly related to coronavirus and the disruption of university operations (which may include food, housing, transportation, technology, health care, and child care), of which $20,000,000 shall be transferred to “Howard University” to help defray expenses (which may include lost revenue, reimbursement for expenses already incurred, technology costs associated with a transition to distance education, technology costs associated with a transition to distance education, faculty and staff trainings, and payroll) directly related to coronavirus and to enable grants to students for expenses directly related to coronavirus and the disruption of university operations (which may include food, housing, transportation, technology, health care, and child care), of which $11,000,000 shall be transferred to “Gallaudet University” to help defray expenses (which may include lost revenue, reimbursement for expenses already incurred, technology costs associated with a transition to distance education, sign language and captioning costs associated with a transition to distance education, faculty and staff trainings, and payroll) directly related to coronavirus and to enable grants to students for expenses directly related to coronavirus and the disruption of university operations (which may include food, housing, transportation, technology, health care, and child care), and of which the remaining amounts shall be used to carry out parts A and B of title III, parts A and B of title V, subpart 4 of part A of title VII, and part B of title VII of the Higher Education Act of 1965 (“HEA”) as follows:

(1) $1,708,000,000 for parts A and B of title III, parts A and B of title V, and subpart 4 of part A of title VII of the HEA to address needs directly related to coronavirus: Provided, That such amount shall be allocated by the Secretary proportionally to such programs covered under this paragraph and based on the relative share of funding appropriated to such programs in the Further Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2020 (Public Law 116–94) and distributed to institutions of higher education as follows:

(A) Except as otherwise provided in subparagraph (B), for eligible institutions under part B of title III and subpart 4 of part A of title VII of the Higher Education Act, the Secretary shall allot to each eligible institution an amount using the following formula:

(i) 70 percent according to a ratio equivalent to the number of Pell Grant recipients in attendance at such institution at the end of the school year preceding the beginning of that fiscal year and the total number of Pell Grant recipients at all such institutions;

(ii) 20 percent according to a ratio equivalent to the total number of students enrolled at such institution at the end of the school year preceding the beginning of that fiscal year and the number of students enrolled at all such institutions; and

(iii) 10 percent according to a ratio equivalent to the total endowment size at all eligible institutions at the end of the school year preceding the beginning of that fiscal year and the total endowment size at such institutions;

(B) For eligible institutions under section 326 of the Higher Education Act, the Secretary shall allot to each eligible institution an amount in proportion to the award received from funding for such institutions in the Further Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2020 (Public Law 116–94);

(C) For eligible institutions under section 316 of the Higher Education Act, the Secretary shall allot funding according to the formula in section 316(d)(3) of the Higher Education Act;

(D) Notwithstanding section 318(f) of the Higher Education Act, for eligible institutions under section 318 of the Higher Education Act, the Secretary shall allot funding according to the formula in section 318(e) of the Higher Education Act;

(E) Except as provided in subparagraphs (C) and (D), for eligible institutions under part A of title III of the Higher Education Act and parts A and B of title V, the Secretary shall issue an application for eligible institutions to demonstrate unmet need, and the Secretary shall allow eligible institutions to apply for funds under one of the programs for which they are eligible.

(2) $8,400,000,000 for part B of title VII of the HEA for institutions of higher education (as defined in section 101 or 102(c) of the HEA) to address needs directly related to coronavirus as follows:

(A) $7,000,000,000 shall be provided to private, nonprofit institutions of higher education—

(i) by reserving an amount necessary to make the minimum grants described in the second to last proviso under this heading; and

(ii) from amounts not reserved under clause (i), by apportioning—

(I) 75 percent according to the relative share of enrollment of Federal Pell Grant recipients who are not exclusively enrolled in distance education courses prior to the coronavirus emergency; and

(II) 25 percent according to the relative share of the total enrollment of students who were not Federal Pell Grant recipients who are not exclusively enrolled in distance education courses prior to the coronavirus emergency.

(B) $1,400,000,000 shall be for institutions of higher education with unmet need related to the coronavirus, including institutions of higher education that offer their courses and programs exclusively through distance education:

Provided, That funds shall be used to make payments to such institutions to provide emergency grants to students who attended such institutions at any point during the coronavirus emergency and for any component of the student’s cost of attendance (as defined under section 472 of the HEA), including tuition, food, housing, course materials, technology, health care, and child care): Provided further, That institutions of higher education may use such funds to defray expenses (including lost revenue, reimbursement for expenses already incurred, technology costs associated with a transition to distance education, faculty and staff trainings, and payroll) incurred by institutions of higher education: Provided further, That such payments shall not be used to increase endowments or provide funding for capital outlays associated with facilities related to athletics, sectarian instruction, or religious worship: Provided further, That any private, nonprofit institution of higher education that is not otherwise eligible for a grant of at least $1,000,000 under paragraph (2)(A)(ii) of this heading and has a total enrollment of at least 500 students shall be eligible to receive, from amounts reserved under paragraph (2)(A)(i), an amount equal to whichever is the lesser of the total loss of revenue and increased costs associated with the coronavirus or $1,000,000: Provided further, That of the funds provided under paragraph 2(B), the Secretary shall make an application available for institutions of higher education to demonstrate unmet need, which shall include for this purpose a dramatic decline in revenue as a result of campus closure, exceptional costs or challenges implementing distance education platforms due to lack of a technological infrastructure, serving a large percentage of students who lack access to adequate technology to move to distance education, serving a region or community that has been especially impacted by increased unemployment and displaced workers, serving communities or regions where the number of coronavirus cases has imposed exceptional costs on the institution, and other criteria that the Secretary shall identify after consultation with institutions of higher education or their representatives: Provided further, That no institution may receive an award unless it has submitted an application that describes the impact of the coronavirus on the institution and the ways that the institution will use the funds to ameliorate such impact: Provided further, That the Secretary shall brief the Committees on Appropriations fifteen days in advance of making any application available for funds under paragraph (2)(B): Provided further, That such amount is designated by the Congress as being for an emergency requirement pursuant to section 251(b)(2)(A)(i) of the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985.



United States Fish And Wildlife Service

resource management

For an additional amount for “Resource Management”, $21,000,000, to remain available until expended for research; listing injurious species; electronic permitting system development; operation and maintenance; law enforcement interdiction and inspections; and other support activities, as described in sections 190402, 190403, and 190404 of division S of this Act: Provided, That amounts may be transferred to “Surveys, Investigations and Research” in the United States Geological Survey; “National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration” in the Department of Commerce; and the “Center for Disease Control” in the Department of Health and Human Services: Provided further, That such amount is designated by the Congress as being for an emergency requirement pursuant to section 251(b)(2)(A)(i) of the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985.

state and tribal wildlife grants

For an additional amount for “State and Tribal Wildlife Grants”, $50,000,000, to remain available until expended, for a onetime grant program as described in section 190405 of division S of this Act: Provided, That such amount is designated by the Congress as being for an emergency requirement pursuant to section 251(b)(2)(A)(i) of the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985.

These proposals through out the HEROES Act are not important as un-employement and PPP. Like why out of all the schools why is Howard specifically getting 20 mil and Gauladet 11 mil. Why is that really important/ That could be done in a separate stimulus update. Or even 5 million going to Museum and LIbrary Services. For what ppl are barely allowed to gather outside rather inside a museum . The Dems are just trying to put everyones issue in the stimulus at once, but all those issues are nothing compared to what the ppl and small businesses need. You can't fix everyone's issue at once especially with debt.
My response is this:

1. The really big necessary issues are handled first
2. it seems that's why they're budgeting 2+ trillion
3. this is the best time to get those things done and are you really saying a HBCU shouldn't get funding?? Again people make a real issue of saying the dems don't do shit for black people specifically and here you have

$20,000,000 shall be transferred to “Howard University” to help defray expenses (which may include lost revenue, reimbursement for expenses already incurred, technology costs associated with a transition to distance education, technology costs associated with a transition to distance education, faculty and staff trainings, and payroll) directly related to coronavirus and to enable grants to students for expenses directly related to coronavirus and the disruption of university operations (which may include food, housing, transportation, technology, health care, and child care)

its covid related and it seems legit to me:dunno::dunno::dunno:

and that's not even the hold up the big issue is the 600 dollar a week payments... that's the impasse.
 
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Listen man, I agree. I'm all for 600. All I am saying is 400 is better than nothing. When doing any business deal or sale, you have to know what to expect from the other side. Getting the republicans to agree to 400 until 2021 was huge IMHO. Some of them heartless bastards don't even want to cough up 200 a week. :smh:

If I didn't know any better, I'd swear she is purposefully fucking this up in hopes that people will be in such bad shape come election time that the dems can win on hopes of making it rain in January.
is that such a bad plan especially if they can do that??? If biden wins and the dems get an edge in congress and they can thru their bill plus the 600 and such...me personally...I can hold out the next 4 month...


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I say let bygones be bygones but FUCK ALL THEM CONSERVATIVE BITCHES!
That's just the way I feel about it. I got nuthin but love in my heart for liberals and progressives...nuthin but love.
But of course...I mean, you know...I got to have my taste too....

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is that such a bad plan especially if they can do that??? If biden wins and the dems get an edge in congress and they can thru their bill plus the 600 and such...me personally...I can hold out the next 4 month...


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I say let bygones be bygones but FUCK ALL THEM CONSERVATIVE BITCHES!
That's just the way I feel about it. I got nuthin but love in my heart for liberals and progressives...nuthin but love.
But of course...I mean, you know...I got to have my taste too....

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Don't get me wrong. I get it if that's her plan. Because if people eat now because the republicans agree to 400, humanoids who need it most might put them back in office and it will be zilch in January. :smh: This virus ain't going away.

But don't underestimate stupid. Those folks in SD were cheering on their governor for turning down FREE fed money for unemployment. These people would rather see their neighbors eating cat food than admit the economy is in trouble.
 
Don't get me wrong. I get it if that's her plan. Because if people eat now because the republicans agree to 400, humanoids who need it most might put them back in office and it will be zilch in January. :smh: This virus ain't going away.

But don't underestimate stupid. Those folks in SD were cheering on their governor for turning down FREE fed money for unemployment. These people would rather see their neighbors eating cat food than admit the economy is in trouble.
Its all relative. South Dakota has a super low COVID-19 rate of exposure so their economy has not been effected much at all.

Also, nothing is "free"
 
Its all relative. South Dakota has a super low COVID-19 rate of exposure so their economy has not been effected much at all.

Also, nothing is "free"
it is for the rich and military those pigs have their noses DEEP in the trough and get riders attached to bills that benefit them to the tune of BILLIONS all the time.




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The U.S. has spent an estimated $5.4 trillion on its post-9/11 war on terror, with an additional $1 trillion due for veterans’ care in the future.


you know what you said to that....NOT A DAMN THING.

So I'm not worried about where the money comes for the stimulus and I'm GLAD Nancy rolled a budget for it at 2-3 TRILLION like it was nothing...becuz those fuckers do that shit all the time when it comes to other shit...so why NOT us??

 
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you did in your post...you may as well vote in the poll and solidify it otherwise there's no point in continuing the conversation. I've posted this many times in the thread...scroll up and see..

we can continue this convo after you vote in the poll homie.

PLEASE CHECK TO SEE IF THE PERSON VOTED....IF NOT THEN PLEASE DON'T RESPOND TO THEIR POST. IF THEY DIDN'T PICK A PLAN CLOSEST TO WHAT THEY WANT THEN THEY'RE BULLSHITTERS NOT WORTHY OF DEBATING THE ISSUE. PERIOD.
i can post whenever i feel like it. i dont care what you say. your poll doesn't make sense.
 
PLEASE CHECK TO SEE IF THE PERSON VOTED....IF NOT THEN PLEASE DON'T RESPOND TO THEIR POST. IF THEY DIDN'T PICK A PLAN CLOSEST TO WHAT THEY WANT THEN THEY'RE BULLSHITTERS NOT WORTHY OF DEBATING THE ISSUE. PERIOD.
 
i can post whenever i feel like it. i dont care what you say. your poll doesn't make sense.
I can't stop people from posting but I do ask that people not engage those who refuse to vote in the poll and make a choice. I find it annoying that people want to voice their opinion on real-world issues but pretend they don't have a dog in the fight when WE ALL have a dog in the fight. We're ALL affected by whatever congress is gonna do so we may as well talk about the plans on the table... decide which one is closer to what we would like and why?

Now I would like you to be fully engaged in the topic so what doesn't make sense??
 
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Its all relative. South Dakota has a super low COVID-19 rate of exposure so their economy has not been effected much at all.

Also, nothing is "free"
Is that you Rand? :lol: SD unemployment is DOUBLE what it was a year ago and the money is coming from FEMA with the state option. State turns down the 100 option and they ain't on the hook for shit. And miss me with 'our grandchildren will pay' shit.

And it is relative. If a person needs the money, they fucking fools to turn down a 300 bump. Folks who don't need it trend to have no fucks to give. So politicians get to play the odds. Fuck the 6 percent of SD folks who unemployed. It's double the 3 from 2019, but ain't the nationwide 9.9 so they good.

That's GOP bootstrap math. :smh:
 
My response is this:

1. The really big necessary issues are handled first
2. it seems that's why they're budgeting 2+ trillion
3. this is the best time to get those things done and are you really saying a HBCU shouldn't get funding?? Again people make a real issue of saying the dems don't do shit for black people specifically and here you have

$20,000,000 shall be transferred to “Howard University” to help defray expenses (which may include lost revenue, reimbursement for expenses already incurred, technology costs associated with a transition to distance education, technology costs associated with a transition to distance education, faculty and staff trainings, and payroll) directly related to coronavirus and to enable grants to students for expenses directly related to coronavirus and the disruption of university operations (which may include food, housing, transportation, technology, health care, and child care)

its covid related and it seems legit to me:dunno::dunno::dunno:

and that's not even the hold up the big issue is the 600 dollar a week payments... that's the impasse.

Now they came down to 2.2 trillion after a damn near 2 month waiting game when the major stuff could’ve already been handled i.e. Unemployment, Funding for K-12 public schools, Stimulus Checks.

HBCU already were receiving funding before COVID. There are grants and programs catered specifically to HBCUs. Ever heard of the STEM initiatives that have been around since before 2005 (that is just on the science and engeering side of things)? Why Howard specifically is awarded 20 mill for “so called COVID protocols“ is BS when other schools have way more volume of students and are way more likely to have more intricate COVID measure because of volume.

Again I reiterate, I agree with majority of the proposals in The a Heroes Act but some of these proposals can wait or be standalone, particularly funding to universities (whether it’s an HBCU or not). Especially if majority of the schooling till 2022 will be done online.
 
it is for the rich and military those pigs have their noses DEEP in the trough and get riders attached to bills that benefit them to the tune of BILLIONS all the time.




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The U.S. has spent an estimated $5.4 trillion on its post-9/11 war on terror, with an additional $1 trillion due for veterans’ care in the future.


you know what you said to that....NOT A DAMN THING.

So I'm not worried about where the money comes for the stimulus and I'm GLAD Nancy rolled a budget for it at 2-3 TRILLION like it was nothing...becuz those fuckers do that shit all the time when it comes to other shit...so why NOT us??


You right on this one. They sure will spend 5.4 trillion on war, but the reason they’ll spend that on war is bc war means business in their eyes or there is a guaranteed return on investment. From this standpoint I understand why Nancy held out this long.
 
Now they came down to 2.2 trillion after a damn near 2 month waiting game when the major stuff could’ve already been handled i.e. Unemployment, Funding for K-12 public schools, Stimulus Checks.

HBCU already were receiving funding before COVID. There are grants and programs catered specifically to HBCUs. Ever heard of the STEM initiatives that have been around since before 2005 (that is just on the science and engeering side of things)? Why Howard specifically is awarded 20 mill for “so called COVID protocols“ is BS when other schools have way more volume of students and are way more likely to have more intricate COVID measure because of volume.

Again I reiterate, I agree with majority of the proposals in The a Heroes Act but some of these proposals can wait or be standalone, particularly funding to universities (whether it’s an HBCU or not). Especially if majority of the schooling till 2022 will be done online.
I don't think they can... back in March and the first the stimulus the explanation was we can do 2 trillion because interest rates are low with the fed. And even months later it seems the economy is slowing down it hasn't bottomed out YET. Hey, I'm sure Nancy and them didn't pull 2.5 TRILLION out her ass just to annoy the republicans. So that budget seems doable and feasible NOW...6 months from now is a different story. Lord knows what 2021 has in store for the country economics wise. And frankly trump as an incumbent has the inside track on re-election. And it's not likely that the Dems will flip enough seats in either house in congress..and even if they do you still have CONSERVATIVE DEMS to deal with...remember them from the Obamacare fight??

So if anything is gonna happen in terms of getting parts of the dems agenda thru now is the time.
 
I don't like either plan but out of the 2 options, I'm going with Heroes. I do agree with the GOP that unemployment pay in CARES and HEROES is too high but there has to be more rental and mortgage assistance if the payments aren't high.
 
I don't like either plan but out of the 2 options, I'm going with Heroes. I do agree with the GOP that unemployment pay in CARES and HEROES is too high but there has to be more rental and mortgage assistance if the payments aren't high.
ok..did you vote in the poll cuz I don't see your name up there?
 
thank you!

What I discovered is that what people say and how they actually vote or what they actually deep down support can be two different things in some cases.

there are some people who wanna talk about left wing or right wing but when its time to decide which side has the more palatable policy or plan they don't want to lock down their vote one way or the other. Life doesn't work like that. Thats what I'm trying to illustrate here.
And you see it....take away the name calling and the trolling and suddenly its quiet as fuck...

And the usual suspects @hardawayz16 and @forcesteeler for example cats who constantly talk shit about democrats...when given the stark choice of one plan vs the other.....either run away or don't bother to make a choice BUT STILL WANNA TALK SHIT.

Now your really seeing whats what.
 
when forced to have to a stance one way or the other all the loudest mouths ran out....fucking cowards...

72 votes ....68 for the HEROES ACT...is that plantation shit or people making a conscious decision based on what works for them??
What would have been a more fair and meaningful poll would have been to post the proposals without listing the political parties.
 
What would have been a more fair and meaningful poll would have been to post the proposals without listing the political parties.
we don't live in a blind taste test society anymore anyone can access google for that info and see who its from. Laying out the bullet points of each bill lets people see exactly whats what....regardless of what party you support or neither... something appeals to you from each plan. The point is to assess the info and see how close either is to what you want..if its R then its R...if its D then its D...man up and deal with it. But YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE 1200 dollars from somebody. And YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE 600 dollar or 400 dollar or 200 dollars a week from somebody. And you're silently rooting for one or the other, whichever benefits YOU PERSONALLY the most.

You can still call bullshit on the whole system but at least be HONEST about the choices you make.

This is why I did it this way it exposes whos real and whos just talking shit for sake of talking shit...
 
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And you see it....take away the name calling and the trolling and suddenly its quiet as fuck...

And the usual suspects @hardawayz16 and @forcesteeler for example cats who constantly talk shit about democrats...when given the stark choice of one plan vs the other.....either run away or don't bother to make a choice BUT STILL WANNA TALK SHIT.

Now your really seeing whats what.

Bruh! shit genius ! replicate this in every board & chat and we'll weed out the bs quick !
 
True but the self-reliance needs to happen. No excuses. If we start unifying, shit WILL change in our favor collectively.
We can't keep doing the same stuff and falling for the same okey-doke bullshit and expect something different. Nobody in politics is fixing anything. We have to do it ourselves. We need self social segregation but that's too radical for most black folks to handle. Ironically, it is when we prospered as a community the most.


“Urban riots must now be recognized as durable social phenomena,” King suggested during his “Role of the Behavioral Scientist in the Civil Rights Movement” dissertation at the American Psychology Associations’ annual convention in Washington, D.C, on Sept. 1, 1967. “They may be deplored, but they are there and should be understood. Urban riots are a special form of violence. They are not insurrections. The rioters are not seeking to seize territory or to attain control of institutions. They are mainly intended to shock the [Caucasian] community. They are a distorted form of social protest. The looting, which is their principal feature, serves many functions.”

He added, “Let us say boldly that if the violations of law by the [Caucasian] man in the slums over the years were calculated and compared with the law-breaking of a few days of riots, the hardened criminal would be the [Caucasian] man. These are often difficult things to say, but I have come to see more and more that it is necessary to utter the truth in order to deal with the great problems that we face in our society.”

Actor/activist, Harry Belafonte, shared a similar moment about his friend. “Midway through the Civil Rights Movement, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. realized that the struggle for integration would ultimately become a struggle for economic rights,” Belafonte reflected. “I remember the last time we were together, at my home, shortly before he was murdered. He seemed quite agitated and preoccupied, and I asked him what the problem was?”

According to Belafonte, King responded, “I’ve come upon something that disturbs me deeply. We have fought hard and long for integration, as I believe we should have, and I know we will win, but I have come to believe that we are integrating into a burning house. I’m afraid that America has lost the moral vision she may have had, and I’m afraid that even as we integrate, we are walking into a place that does not understand that this nation needs to be deeply concerned with the plight of the poor and disenfranchised. Until we commit ourselves to ensuring that the underclass is given justice and opportunity, we will continue to perpetuate the anger and violence that tears the soul of this nation. I fear I am integrating my people into a burning house.”

Belafonte added, “That statement took me aback. It was the last thing I would have expected to hear, considering the nature of our struggle.”

Belafonte said he asked King, “What should we do?” and King replied that we should, “become the firemen.” King said, “Let us not stand by and let the house burn.”
 
The Platform the GOP Is Too Scared to Publish
What the Republican Party actually stands for, in 13 points
AUGUST 25, 2020


David Frum
Staff writer at The Atlantic

Once you read the list, I think you’ll agree that these are authentic ideas with meaningful policy consequences, and that they are broadly shared. The question is not why Republicans lack a coherent platform; it’s why they’re so reluctant to publish the one on which they’re running.

1) The most important mechanism of economic policy—not the only tool, but the most important—is adjusting the burden of taxation on society’s richest citizens. Lower this level, as Republicans did in 2017, and prosperity will follow. The economy has had a temporary setback, but thanks to the tax cut of 2017, recovery is ready to follow strongly. No further policy change is required, except possibly lower taxes still.


2) The coronavirus is a much-overhyped problem. It’s not that dangerous and will soon burn itself out. States should reopen their economies as rapidly as possible, and accept the ensuing casualties as a cost worth paying—and certainly a better trade-off than saving every last life by shutting down state economies. Masking is useless and theatrical, if not outright counterproductive.

3) Climate change is a much-overhyped problem. It’s probably not happening. If it is happening, it’s not worth worrying about. If it’s worth worrying about, it’s certainly not worth paying trillions of dollars to amend. To the extent it is real, it will be dealt with in the fullness of time by the technologies of tomorrow. Regulations to protect the environment unnecessarily impede economic growth.

4) China has become an economic and geopolitical adversary of the United States. Military spending should be invested with an eye to defeating China on the seas, in space, and in the cyberrealm. U.S. economic policy should recognize that relations with China are zero-sum: When China wins, the U.S. loses, and vice versa.

5) The trade and alliance structures built after World War II are outdated. America still needs partners, of course, especially Israel and maybe Russia. But the days of NATO and the World Trade Organization are over. The European Union should be treated as a rival, the United Kingdom and Japan should be treated as subordinates, and Canada, Australia, and Mexico should be treated as dependencies. If America acts decisively, allies will have to follow whether they like it or not—as they will have to follow U.S. policy on Iran.

6) Health care is a purchase like any other. Individuals should make their own best deals in the insurance market with minimal government supervision. Those who pay more should get more. Those who cannot pay must rely on Medicaid, accept charity, or go without.

7) Voting is a privilege. States should have wide latitude to regulate that privilege in such a way as to minimize voting fraud, which is rife among Black Americans and new immigrant communities. The federal role in voting oversight should be limited to preventing Democrats from abusing the U.S. Postal Service to enable fraud by their voters.


8) Anti-Black racism has ceased to be an important problem in American life. At this point, the people most likely to be targets of adverse discrimination are whites, Christians, and Asian university applicants. Federal civil-rights-enforcement resources should concentrate on protecting them.

9) The courts should move gradually and carefully toward eliminating the mistake made in 1965, when women’s sexual privacy was elevated into a constitutional right.

10) The post-Watergate ethics reforms overreached. We should welcome the trend toward unrestricted and secret campaign donations. Overly strict conflict-of-interest rules will only bar wealthy and successful business people from public service. Without endorsing every particular action by the president and his family, the Trump administration has met all reasonable ethical standards.


11) Trump’s border wall is the right policy to slow illegal immigration; the task of enforcing immigration rules should not fall on business operators. Some deal on illegal immigration must be found. The most important Republican priority in any such deal is to delay as long as possible full citizenship, voting rights, and health-care benefits for people who entered the country illegally.

12) The country is gripped by a surge of crime and lawlessness as a result of the Black Lives Matter movement and its criticism of police. Police misconduct, such as that in the George Floyd case, should be punished. But the priority now should be to stop crime by empowering police.

13) Civility and respect are cherished ideals. But in the face of the overwhelming and unfair onslaught against President Donald Trump by the media and the “deep state,” his occasional excesses on Twitter and at his rallies should be understood as pardonable reactions to much more severe misconduct by others.

So there’s the platform. Why not publish it?

There are two answers to that question, one simple, one more complicated.
The simple answer is that President Trump’s impulsive management style has cast his convention into chaos. The location, the speaking program, the arrangements—all were decided at the last minute. Managing the rollout of a platform as well was just one task too many.

The more complicated answer is that the platform I’ve just described, like so much of the Trump-Republican program, commands support among only a minority of the American people. The platform works (to the extent it does work) by exciting enthusiastic support among Trump supporters; but when stated too explicitly, it invites a backlash among the American majority. This is a platform for a party that talks to itself, not to the rest of the country. And for those purposes, the platform will succeed most to the extent that it is communicated only implicitly, to those receptive to its message.

The challenge for Republicans in the week ahead is to hope that President Trump can remember, night after night, to speak only the things he’s supposed to speak—not to blurt the things his party wants its supporters to absorb unspoken.

 
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