By declining to wear a mask, Herman Cain accepted an offer he should have refused.
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Herman Cain has DIED due to COVID-19 or when keeping it Coon goes wrong
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i get what ure saying and i feel same way but i cant help but to think how many black people have died becos of him & party he supported , how his partnering with those people have indirectly affected black peoples health and life chances
my sentiments
thast all im saying ^^ seemed to be a decent bruh but with a twisted sense of reality on that front
people make their own decisions and reap the consequences. he didn't force or put a gun to anyone's head to follow his. he didn't Directly cause anything imo. now if he murderer or child rapist or something, my stance would be "good he's gone". all political parties have contributed to bad decisions that probably indirectly caused death and suffering. i don't support trump at all and never will but democrats aren't angels either. peace
To your point, the Roland Martin appearance was 4 months prior to the Breakfast Club interview. Like many, she needed room to grow and improve her debate skills. She has come along way and has found her groove.
If I was in Georgia, I would definitely vote for this sister.
You dont find it disturbing that you have been conditioned to believe that you are either Democrat or a bad person? We have to be better than this.
Because it’s obvious.
Not a liberal sorry but I agree with your assessment.
People love being put into a box.
Exactly. I don't understand why more Black people aren't attracted to the neo-confederates currently defending General Lee statues and urging the "Sons of Bitches" to stop kneeling.
Again, why is it Democrat or nothing? A person cant be non affiliated? Independent? Trump is a person. I wouldnr support him and I question anyone that would. But, I am also not going to assume everyone who Republican is bad and everyone who is Democrat is good. This type of thinking is delusional and leads to black folk having no real power.Exactly. I don't understand why more Black people aren't attracted to the neo-confederates currently defending General Lee statues and urging the "Sons of Bitches" to stop kneeling.
It is amazing to see a Black man try to defend what is essentially a Southern white grievance party at this point.
Can you name a specific policy offered by the republicans that makes the acceptance of white supremacists and defense of the confederacy worth it for you?
Do you agree that Barack Obama, unlike Trump, was "feckless" or "incompetent" and the cause of racial issues in the country because he was the real racist ?
Dude is trying too hard to sound smart. He is basically admitting he's a hard core republican and using the "independent" thinker bullshit that many conservatives use to make themeselves seem smarter than what they are.It is amazing to see a Black man try to defend what is essentially a Southern white grievance party at this point.
Can you name a specific policy offered by the republicans that makes the acceptance of white supremacists and defense of the confederacy worth it for you?
Do you agree that Barack Obama, unlike Trump, was "feckless" or "incompetent" and the cause of racial issues in the country because he was the real racist ?
Why in your case it's Republican or nothing? What is on the Republican platform right now that makes it so much better than the Dems platform? The only thing you mentioned was being anti-trans and anti-gay? Is that it? Fuck everything else as long as they are anti gay and trans?
lol I have a better one for you...
Or I don't understand why more black folks aren't attracted to limiting Medicaid or rolling back fair housing rules while cutting public housing and increasing the price for the poor. It just amazes me why more black folks aren't down with reducing rental assistance and reducing job training for low income workers. I don't understand why more black folk aren't against eliminating ACA with no replacement in the middle of a fucking pandemic, might I add. I also don't understand why more black folk aren't attracted to eliminating the Minority Business Development Agency. Wow, it behooves me why more black folks ain't down with the policies and practices that leaves black businesses out in the cold to PPP loans or like the fact that we've lost 440,000 black businesses so far this year.Exactly. I don't understand why more Black people aren't attracted to the neo-confederates currently defending General Lee statues and urging the "Sons of Bitches" to stop kneeling.
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Definitely but it is hilarious to see people explain their ridiculous positions. My favorite is when the Ayn Rand libertarian types try to defend bailouts to corporations but are outraged that an individual would collect unemployment or receive government stimulus.
I respect all that Cain accomplished, especially if he really built himself from nothing.
BUT - he was willing to tow the party line with their rhetoric to point where it cost him his life.
His needless death should serve as warning to any black Americans about being BLINDINGLY loyal to either party.
BUT - he was willing to tow the party line with their rhetoric to point where it cost him his life.
His needless death should serve as warning to any black Americans about being BLINDINGLY loyal to either party.
Definitely but it is hilarious to see people explain their ridiculous positions. My favorite is when the Ayn Rand libertarian types try to defend bailouts to corporations but are outraged that an individual would collect unemployment or receive government stimulus.
'We Took PPP Funds and Would Do It Again'
The Ayn Rand Institute's CEO explains why its unapologetic pursuit of PPP funds was a matter of justice for its donors.
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Vocal Opponents Of Federal Spending Took PPP Loans, Including Ayn Rand Institute, Grover Norquist Group
Norquist and Citizens Against Government Waste have both criticized the CARES Act, with Norquist saying the bill's unemployment program 'delays growth.'
www.forbes.com
Noone is defending any party. But, what has happened is, we assume any person running under the Democratic ticket is our best and only choice and that anyone running under the Republican ticket is bad. To make matters worse, we won't even consider a person who is running as an independent. So we literally give our vote away without any consideration. I am an independent. I am able to think for myself. I look at all candidates and vote for the person who has my interest at heart. Regardless of party. I can't be Democrat because I am 100% against abortion. I can't be Republican because I 100% hate Trump and I recognize that systemic racism is real. However, I am forced to choose between drinking piss or eating shit. But, the public doesn't see anything wrong with having a two party system. This is crazy.
I do not agree with everything on the Democratic platform and I agree with some things on the Republican platform. I do not agree with many things on the Republican platform and I agree with some of the things that are on the Democratic platform.
This country is like Bizarro World. The general ignorance is frustrating at times.
I do not agree with everything on the Democratic platform and I agree with some things on the Republican platform. I do not agree with many things on the Republican platform and I agree with some of the things that are on the Democratic platform.
This country is like Bizarro World. The general ignorance is frustrating at times.
If you are so comfortable being a free thinker, just say so and stop with all the woke babble.Noone is defending any party. But, what has happened is, we assume any person running under the Democratic ticket is our best and only choice and that anyone running under the Republican ticket is bad. To make matters worse, we won't even consider a person who is running as an independent. So we literally give our vote away without any consideration. I am an independent. I am able to think for myself. I look at all candidates and vote for the person who has my interest at heart. Regardless of party. I can't be Democrat because I am 100% against abortion. I can't be Republican because I 100% hate Trump and I recognize that systemic racism is real. However, I am forced to choose between drinking piss or eating shit. But, the public doesn't see anything wrong with having a two party system. This is crazy.
I do not agree with everything on the Democratic platform and I agree with some things on the Republican platform. I do not agree with many things on the Republican platform and I agree with some of the things that are on the Democratic platform.
This country is like Bizarro World. The general ignorance is frustrating at times.
You just sound like a typical black republican who wants to "educate" the masses, yet don't really say anything insightful.
I 'll ask again, what specifically about the Republican party are you liking right now?
I like that the Republican party is unapologetically pro-life. Any person proclaiming that they are Democrat and pro-life would be dragged through the mud. I am not a transgender supporter. If you are a Democrat and you are not on the LGBTQ bandwagon then you would be crucified. I like that the Republicans are about business and education. In my opinion, the current Democratic party purposely makes socially and economically disadvantaged communities dependent. This keeps the poor and many black folks down.
This does not mean that I am a Republican. I am only answering your question. There significantly more reasons why I do not like the Republican party. However, I can make a similar list regarding Democrats. Neithet party has fully committed to helping black folks.
This is why I am Independent.
This does not mean that I am a Republican. I am only answering your question. There significantly more reasons why I do not like the Republican party. However, I can make a similar list regarding Democrats. Neithet party has fully committed to helping black folks.
This is why I am Independent.
Yes, I like the idea of charter schools and free choice. Most large city public schools are garbage.
I send my kids to private school for this very reason. In fact, my wife and i are looking for a new home in a nearby city which has a highly rated school district.
I send my kids to private school for this very reason. In fact, my wife and i are looking for a new home in a nearby city which has a highly rated school district.
BOTH SIIIIDES BRUH !BOTH SIDESExactly. I don't understand why more Black people aren't attracted to the neo-confederates currently defending General Lee statues and urging the "Sons of Bitches" to stop kneeling.
IT ALWAYS COMES DOWN TO ONE THING !Definitely but it is hilarious to see people explain their ridiculous positions. My favorite is when the Ayn Rand libertarian types try to defend bailouts to corporations but are outraged that an individual would collect unemployment or receive government stimulus.
"ARE BLACKPEOPLE GONNA BENEFIT FROM IT? "
THATS HOW U KNOW WHAT WHITE PPL WILL SUPPORT
PRO-LIFE OR PRO-BIRTH ? PRO WHITE LIVES BUT FUCK TAMIR RICE'S & MIKE BROWN'S LIFE AND THE THOUSANDS OF KIDS AT THE BORDER NAZI CAMPS , FUCK THE HIGH RATE OF COVID BLACK DEATHS ! BUT YEAH PRO-LIFE
PRO- EDUCATION ? BUT CUT FUNDING FOR INNERCITY SCHOOLS , CUT ACCESS TO LEARNING RESOURCES BUT INCREASE POLICE BUDGET!
Yep. Republicans are all about education alright
Trump’s Budget Proposes More Than $200 Billion in Cuts to Students
President Trump’s tax cuts rewarded people born into wealth. Now he wants to pay for it by making it harder for millions of low- and middle-income Americans to afford college.
www.americanprogress.org
Trump's 2020 budget proposes school funding cuts, stresses choice for students and teachers
In its proposal for the next fiscal year, the administration moves to cut funding for the U.S. Education Department by 10%, as well as eliminate financial support for a slew of federal programs.
Say bruh, leave Democrat’s out of this one. Republicans own this bag. And ain’t nobody loyal to just one party. Republicans have moved so far wrong that it’s hard for any black person to vote for them. Unless you go to a white Christian church and stand on the old platform of conservative social issues it would be hard to vote for the Republican Party.
Man I just got done listening to this interview with Karen Hunter from 2016....
Yo man fuck this nigga
Yo man fuck this nigga
You seem to base you likes and dislikes on an almost cartoonish set of extremist beliefs and ideals assigned to these parties that largely never jive with their realities.
Here are the 10 poorest states: Miss, Louisiana, SC, West Virginia, Kentucky Arkansas, Alabama, Oklahoma, Tenn, Georgia.
Here are the 10 dumbest states: Miss, Louisiana, New Mexico, Alabama, Alaska, WV, Arkansas, SC, Arizona, Oklahoma.
Wanna know what they all have in common?
Noone is defending any party. But, what has happened is, we assume any person running under the Democratic ticket is our best and only choice and that anyone running under the Republican ticket is bad. To make matters worse, we won't even consider a person who is running as an independent. So we literally give our vote away without any consideration. I am an independent. I am able to think for myself. I look at all candidates and vote for the person who has my interest at heart. Regardless of party. I can't be Democrat because I am 100% against abortion. I can't be Republican because I 100% hate Trump and I recognize that systemic racism is real. However, I am forced to choose between drinking piss or eating shit. But, the public doesn't see anything wrong with having a two party system. This is crazy.
I do not agree with everything on the Democratic platform and I agree with some things on the Republican platform. I do not agree with many things on the Republican platform and I agree with some of the things that are on the Democratic platform.
This country is like Bizarro World. The general ignorance is frustrating at times.
Colin adverse -- Don't tag me. The cliff notes are vote DEMOCRAT. I don't agree with abortion either. It absolutely should be a last resort. However, while I am anti abortion/prolife I am also pro-choice, and no, this is not a contradiction.
It may or may not have started out differently, but the most vocal "Pro-Life" advocates are actually just Pro-BIRTH. In many cases, being anti-abortion is a means to be legalistic and punitive toward women who dare have sex outside of marriage and flaunt Christian values. It's not about saving lives, it's about controlling behaviors such as premarital sex. To many, they see making access to birth control and education as giving permission to sin. They see giving food assistance as letting sinners escape the consequences of their actions, and refuse to extend grace and mercy to people who have fallen short. If they were actually about reducing abortions, they wouldn't be anti-contraceptive. This also has links to white genocide groups, but we don't need to go there.
Instead of supporting women and families to make sure they have food and healthcare, proper contraceptives to be able to choose when they get pregnant, time after time these "pro life" people support candidates who are against this and complain about their taxes supporting lazy welfare queens because the candidates wrap their opposition to these things in biblical phrases. "Life is important. Children are a gift from God. Abortion is a sin." Then, as soon as the baby exits the birth canal, the mother is a sinner who should have made better choices and kept her legs closed. Now she needs to to work and get off the government teat. She made her bed, now she has to lie in it. She needs to learn her lesson. They can't wait to see the woman punished for not living right and saving herself for a godly marriage union in the first place. After all, how will others learn the lesson of what not to do if a woman does all the wrong things, and still prospers or has a decent life?
Folks in the past, even around here in the house of RAW, NO PULLOUT, want to throw up Margaret Sanger and try to shame me for being black and Christian and supporting democrats, though technically I consider myself independent, but if people were TRULY pro life, they would vote dem. Democrats want to make the entire American life experience better and attainable, from birth- to death with dignity.
Dems want you to have a living wage to be able to afford to take care of a family without working so many jobs you never see them or are too tired to spend time with them, educate, raise and guide them properly.
Dems want you to have affordable healthcare so you can afford to have the baby and get medical care during and after birth.
Dems want you to have paid family leave, so you can spend time with your family if a crises arises, and have time to bond with your child when s/he is first born.
Dems want women to have workplace protections so they can return to work after giving birth and affordable childcare so you can work and have your children looked after in a safe environment.
Dems want people to have affordable contraceptives and to be educated about reproductive health to know how to use birth control properly and have it available to prevent unwanted pregnancies in the first place. Abortion should be rare.
After one retires, Dems want people who have worked hard all their lives but may not have a savings to be able to eat and have an income to survive via social security, medicare and medicaid, and when the time comes, to die with dignity.
If pregnancy could not have been prevented for whatever reason, would I prefer someone to put their child up for adoption or given to a family member to raise? Yes. Though they still would have medical bills, the work and medical leave issues etc, which I mentioned above. We know from before that women were having unsafe abortions with coat hangers and unsafe/unclean place which often caused not only the loss of the child, but the mother as well. I don't want to go back to those times. This will always dis-proportionality affect poor people, because the wealthy can always discretely pay to end their problems. Until all these issues are mostly resolved, I am going to remain pro-choice and trust the mother and her doctor to make the best decision for her own situation. In some families, one more child is the difference between being slightly food insecure, to everyone starving. Yet I am still not "pro-abortion," no one is PRO abortion. I'm just realistic.
People used to hit hard times, get on welfare for a few months and get off. Then GOP propaganda made black folks and other people of color the face of abuse of the system and talked people into standing idly by while they made the system difficult transition away from, and even navigate in the first place, because the perception was they were stopping black folks from getting over on the system. There was a time one could start working and then end assistance. Now, I'm told, if one wishes to get off assistance and try to start working, they end benefits immediately, including health care. I don't know if that changed after the ACA passed or not.
The same thing happened with Covid. Covid19 has revealed that they aren't pro-life. Many can't even bring themselves to utter the phrase "Black Lives Matter." When black folks became the face of the pandemic deaths, no one wanted to care anymore and everyone wanted to open back up. Their lack of compassion is their own downfall. Red states are being hit hard with Covid. Now that millions of people are out of work, they are finding out the system is not made for living large, only to barely survive and the systems in place to make it harder for black folks and PoC, is making it hard for them, too. They voted to cut their own safety nets. They weren't worried about death panels, like they claimed when congress was trying to pass the ACA. The same ACA that GOP congress members who have tried to end it are now telling their constituents to sign up for, since so many have lost their employer healthcare. We know this because as soon as Covid ended their ability to get hair cuts, go to bars and gather in large numbers, Grandma and Grandpa became expendable. Now their children are expendable, too.
If the country had actually listened to Obama, passed and strengthened the polices he wanted to put into place, we would have weathered this entire pandemic and come out in a much better place.
If you want actual POLICIES that support LIFE and FAMILY, not just the RHETORIC, vote PRO-FAMILY which means to Vote DEMOCRAT. Put the policies in place that eliminate the "need" for abortion outside of rape or incest, and I'd actually support anti-abortion legislation.
It's been several years, but I've voted republican in the past. I also know black Trump supporters exist. I have some in my own family. Two for religious reasons, one who recently became involved in following politics and is getting fed a bunch of RW BS and conspiracy theories. Heffa sent me a video of Dinesh D'Souza. I laughed my ass off. I told her next she'll be following Candace Owens. You know what she replied? "Ooohhh I love Candace." Seriously. She mentioned George Soros and Bill Gates about something, too. Six months ago, outside of Bill Gates, she had never even heard of these people. Thankfully, most of the rest of my family is sane, but I still have friends who saw Trump as appealing because of his anti-Muslim and anti-Immigrant stance. There are a bunch on this board who agreed with him for the way he attacked other races, also.
The republicans who are still supporting Trump are not the run of the mill republicans. Either they have drunk the koolaid or their political futures are so intertwined with his that his win is the only way they stay in office. They are learning their lessons they hard way also, because after all his demands for loyalty, and seeing how he has screwed any and everyone except maybe Michael Flynn and Roger Stone, they still thought he would financially support their reelections like past candidates, and are finding out the hard way he won't.
Any of the sane republicans, like the ones behind the Lincoln project, have left the party and are working to take down Trump and his enablers. They are also putting aside any pro-life or economic policies because they have the wisdom to see the damage which has been done, and which will continue to be done, here and abroad, until he is out of office.
While I agree that dem doesn't automatically mean good, and republican doesn't automatically mean bad, one party overall stands up for people and the right thing, and the other party is happy to let the country burn, as long as they get to stay in power and make a few money grabs while it happens. That may not always have been the case, and it may change again in the future, but for right now, democrats are the only sane choice that has a chance of winning. We can't afford to split the vote and end up with another 4 years of Trump.
Abortion rate declines to historic low, with Obamacare a likely contributor, study says
The U.S. abortion rate has hit its lowest point since the procedure became legal nationwide in 1973, according to a new study.
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Abortion decline causes include Obamacare mandate
The number of U.S. abortions has fallen to its lowest level since the practice was legalized in 1973, a new report said Wednesday, drawing cheers and jeers from pro-life advocates.
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U.S. abortions dropped to their lowest rate since 1973's Roe v. Wade. Thanks, ObamaCare?
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For me, my stance on abortion has absolutely nothing to do with religion. Most Healthcare professionals will tell you that aborting a fetus is murder. For me, this is not about women's rights or wanting to punish women. It is absolutely not about controlling a woman's body. Its about protecting the unborn child. Before anyone says anything about protecting born children, let me say this. You can my pist from now to ten years ago, I have always been an advocate for protecting children, education, a living wage, wealth building, and career building. For me, the child is just as valuable in the womb as it is outside.
I do quite a bit of work with genetics. I take issue that a child which is 50% comprised of the woman's DNA and 50% of the man's DNA, yet the male has zero say regarding the outcome of the child. I can never be convinced that this is OK. It is not just the woman's child, it is both the woman and man's child. Noone can debate this fact.
I do quite a bit of work with genetics. I take issue that a child which is 50% comprised of the woman's DNA and 50% of the man's DNA, yet the male has zero say regarding the outcome of the child. I can never be convinced that this is OK. It is not just the woman's child, it is both the woman and man's child. Noone can debate this fact.
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