Herman Cain has DIED due to COVID-19 or when keeping it Coon goes wrong

Weird church setup - no one social distancing in the front ten rows, but the back half of the pews all look empty. And I only count three white people there - all sitting on the same pew.
Is trump there?
:cmonson:

Notice everyone speaking there seems to be wearing masks, gloves and damn near hazmat suits. I guess they got the message. What a sad hill to literally die on.
 
With all do respect, you remind me of the kids who told me I was lame for going to class and doing well. You're mindset is why we do not excel. Just because racist use certain facts as talking points doesn't make it less true.

You are quoting directly from the cac/coon bible :smh:

You were about 30 seconds from talking about the bigotry of "low expectations" or how rap music has killed more Black people than the Klan. :smh: :smh::smh:
 
You are quoting directly from the cac/coon bible :smh:

You were about 30 seconds from talking about the bigotry of "low expectations" or how rap music has killed more Black people than the Klan. :smh: :smh::smh:
Hmm. So just because CACs say that Planned Parentshood has killed millions of black babies its not true? Just because CACs say that 75% of black babies are born out of wedlock, its not true? Just because racist Republicans will say that blacks vote Democrat blindly, its not true?

Facts do not care about your feelings nor do they care about who is delivering them. If the KKK grand wizard told me that I can not run through a brick wall with nothing on my head, I'm not gonna bust my head open trying to disprove a fact. Sometimes the truth hurts. Its just that we prefer the truth not come from CACs when it comes to us. Hard pill to swallow.
 
You really are a Ben Shapiro style pseudo-intellectual cac :smh: :lol: Why are you here and not on Prager U ?:smh:
Actually.......

.....Ben Shapiro is out if touch when it comes to systemic racism. However, he's not always wrong. His discussions regarding LGBTQ, Transgenders, and abortion are spot on.

As I stated before, I am a thinker with the ability to analyze thoughts and ideas of others in order to form my own opinions. I do not ignore facts just because I do not like the person who is delivering the message.

Additionally, I am not afraid to call out my own people for their bullshit. We can't really move forward without truly accepting our roles in this mess. We have to recognize that as the original man, the original rulers of this planet, the master mathematicians and architects, that we are more powerful and capable than we will ever know. So, yes, I will tell kids and adults alike that despite the existence of systemic racism, you still need to work 5 times harder than every one else. You need to stop being mediocre and get your shit together and don't allow the devil to win. For every brother and sister that has "not made it" I can assure you we can pinpoint decisions he or she has made along the way that had negatively determined his or her future.

Why is it so hard to take a little responsibility? Not all, just a little. CACs don't control every aspect of people's lives. But, I guess thats coon talk.
 
Hmm. So just because CACs say that Planned Parentshood has killed millions of black babies its not true?
prove this.

Just because CACs say that 75% of black babies are born out of wedlock, its not true?
but everything they do with this information is a lie.

[qoute="Tito_Jackson, post: 21146724, member: 29341"]Just because racist Republicans will say that blacks vote Democrat blindly, its not true?[/quote]

no, its not true, it is a complete and utter lie. you dont get to judge my reasons for being a democrat. its in my best interest.

stop being a dick.
 
@BigDaddyBuk

prove this.

Center for Disease Control, there have been over 15.5 million abortions performed on Black Americans. Black women are 5 times more likely to get an abortion as compared to white women. You can look this up.

but everything they do with this information is a lie.

Listen to what you are saying. Stating a fact is not a lie. Now, how they(Republicans or Democrats) use these facts may be disingenuous. But, facts are still facts despite who states them.

no, its not true, it is a complete and utter lie. you dont get to judge my reasons for being a democrat. its in my best interest.

I'm not judging "your" reasons. However, if we are going to be honest, we have to acknowledge that most black folk vote Democrat just because they are black and expected to vote Democrat and have been conditioned to never vote Republican. We know this is true. I was once this way as well. Just like many poor whites are conditioned to vote Republican just because.

All I'm saying is one should simply vote for the better candidate regardless of party. If its Democrat, cool. Most of my votes have been Democrat. But, I would never not vote for a person because he or she is Republican. I examine each person individually and make an informed decision.

stop being a dick.

You are entitled to your opinion. However, hurling insults will never diminish the validity of facts. Its scary that encouraging people to think for themselves is considered a bad thing.
 
Gawd damn Repub Tweeter bots are insane..

I was wondering why Stage 4 was trending

So repubs are now saying that he died of Stage 4 cancer and not Covid..




Watch Trump... tweet that he was battling stage 4 cancer.

I made a simple post about Cain on a Facebook article along the lines of politics aside his death was unnecessary... rip....

And some dickhead posts in response to me "well he had stage 4 cancer... that doesn't just go away... his death was inevitable ."

These people, the Trump supporters and covid 19 "truthers" are sick in the head... there has to be something they've been infected with that makes them this way :smh:
 
I made a simple post about Cain on a Facebook article along the lines of politics aside his death was unnecessary... rip....

And some dickhead posts in response to me "well he had stage 4 cancer... that doesn't just go away... his death was inevitable ."

These people, the Trump supporters and covid 19 "truthers" are sick in the head... there has to be something they've been infected with that makes them this way :smh:

My theory is the same one I have for the religious; They desperately want somebody to be in "control" because the thought that we are just out here on our own is terrifying and the idea that there is a virus raging out of control is too much for them. It is like a child describing who/what their imaginary friend is and what they are doing. :smh: This is their thought process:

Surely China made it in a lab and there is a cure they are hiding.

If China didn't make it, Bill Gates and Soros "unleashed" it and they have the vaccine.

If Gates, Soros didn't spread it, the doctors are just lying about the number of dead to make Trump look bad during an election year. The flu is worse.

I've actually seen them claim Cain is actually alive and in some sort of protective custody and that is the reason Trump didn't seem to care about his death :smh: :lol:
 
Center for Disease Control, there have been over 15.5 million abortions performed on Black Americans. Black women are 5 times more likely to get an abortion as compared to white women. You can look this up.

Asshole, I told you to prove Planned Parenthood killed millions of Black babies. You posted abortion stats. You are one dishonest motherfucker.

Listen to what you are saying. Stating a fact is not a lie. Now, how they(Republicans or Democrats) use these facts may be disingenuous. But, facts are still facts despite who states them.
Stop being stupid. Its common practice to use a fact to set up a lie, and in this case an entire culture based off lies.

I'm not judging "your" reasons. However, if we are going to be honest, we have to acknowledge that most black folk vote Democrat just because they are black and expected to vote Democrat and have been conditioned to never vote Republican. We know this is true. I was once this way as well. Just like many poor whites are conditioned to vote Republican just because.

All I'm saying is one should simply vote for the better candidate regardless of party. If its Democrat, cool. Most of my votes have been Democrat. But, I would never not vote for a person because he or she is Republican. I examine each person individually and make an informed decision.

you ARE judging me because I happen to be BLACK. And as long as we're being honest you just judged an entire group of people based off your narrow minded myopic view. Your dumb ass is too stupid to realize how much of an asshole you are for being so hateful towards Black people. YOU ARE NOT SUPERIOR to other Black folks based on your prejudice of OUR VOTING PATTERNS.

You are entitled to your opinion. However, hurling insults will never diminish the validity of facts. Its scary that encouraging people to think for themselves is considered a bad thing.

These aint insults, this is ASSESSMENT.
My opinion is that your ignant ass doesn't know the difference between an opinion and a fact and that it makes you dick. Telling people to think for themselves while spewing right wing FALSE talking points is dishonest as fuck.
 
By the way, Herman, while not a leader of the birther movement by any means, did support trump's birther demands and stated that Obama needed to prove he was born in the USA. Still not celebrating his death, but fuck him and the stupid shit he did for politics. Can't respect him or his memory.
This is an amazing post. Simply amazing.

If I were to commit suicide right now the forum would call me a weak dumbass. Herman Cain did the same thing. He killed himself. But you guys are afraid to call him out. I hope you guys don’t have a broken heart when uncle Ben gets a heart attack.

Herman Cain was a piece of shit. And it caught up with him. Who tookover his radio spot? I wonder if his wife is up to?
 
Asshole, I told you to prove Planned Parenthood killed millions of Black babies. You posted abortion stats. You are one dishonest motherfucker.
  • Kill - (verb) - cause the death of (a person, animal, or other living things).
  • Abortion - (noun) - the deliberate termination of a pregnancy resulting in the death of the embryo or fetus
  • Death - (noun) - a permanent cessation of all vital functions: the end of life
  • From the Planned Parenthood website: You can get an in-clinic abortion at many Planned Parenthood health centers. Our caring doctors and nurses are experts at providing safe abortion and providing support throughout the process.
  • From CDC - 36% of all abortions were performed on black women, who are just 13% of the female population.
  • From Planned Parenthood - Abortions make up 93% of annual business. (yes they said business)
  • From the American Journal of Public Health - Black women continue to have the highest abortion rate at 27.1 per 1,000 women compared with 10 per 1,000 for white women
  • From Margret Sanger and her "Negro Project" (yes this is real) - “How are we to breed a race of human thoroughbreds unless we follow the same plan? We must make this country into a garden of children instead of a disorderly back lot overrun with human weeds.” (1924)
These are all researchable and verified facts. Planned Parenthood kills thousands of black babies annually and has killed millions since its inception.

Stop being stupid. Its common practice to use a fact to set up a lie, and in this case an entire culture based off lies.
Again, what a person does with facts neither you nor I can control. Nonetheless, a fact is a fact is a fact.
you ARE judging me because I happen to be BLACK. And as long as we're being honest you just judged an entire group of people based off your narrow minded myopic view. Your dumb ass is too stupid to realize how much of an asshole you are for being so hateful towards Black people. YOU ARE NOT SUPERIOR to other Black folks based on your prejudice of OUR VOTING PATTERNS.
Let's unpack what you just screamed.
  • you ARE judging me because I happen to be BLACK - I actually never judged you. Nor have I assume that you were black. You actually may be white. And if you were, my responses would remain the same. What I did was, I made a generalization regarding the voting patterns of black folk. There are ample amounts of data that support the idea that black folks vote Democrat regardless of the candidate. However, I also qualified this statement by saying there are ample amounts of data that support the idea that poor whites support Republicans.
  • narrow minded myopic view - My view is quite the opposite. Instead of encouraging people to only look at one group or one candidate, I am suggesting that we look at them all, including independents.
  • Your dumb ass is too stupid to realize how much of an asshole you are for being so hateful towards Black people. - A person suggesting that black folk take back our power and utilize our vote to improve our situation can only be interpreted as hateful by someone who thinks the opposite. That black folk should not realize the power of their vote. The reality is, sometimes truth and love are not always synonymous with happiness and joyous. The truth hurts sometimes. Realizing that we have been taken advantage of is shocking to most people.
  • YOU ARE NOT SUPERIOR to other Black folks based on your prejudice of OUR VOTING PATTERNS. - You are correct in this statement and I absolutely agree. I am not superior to other black folk nor would I ever claim to be. The shortcomings of black folk are all of our shortcomings. I am only doing my part to help my people open their minds and break the chains of mental slavery.
These aint insults, this is ASSESSMENT.
My opinion is that your ignant ass doesn't know the difference between an opinion and a fact and that it makes you dick. Telling people to think for themselves while spewing right wing FALSE talking points is dishonest as fuck.
You are absolutely entitled to your opinion. Nonetheless, I believe that I have made every effort to refrain from inserting my opinion. To draw a conclusion based upon facts is not an opinion, We have to get away from this "right-wing" and "left-wing" talk. Fox News and CNN have us talking and thinking crazy and ignoring facts and real information.

Nonetheless, here is an opinion in which I regard as fact: Black folks are powerful beings and are capable of taking over this land. Black folk have the ability to unite and achieve greatness never before seen. However, some of us are subconsciously afraid and that fear prevents us from achieving greatness.

Peace, Brother.
 
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  • Kill - (verb) - cause the death of (a person, animal, or other living things).
  • Abortion - (noun) - the deliberate termination of a pregnancy resulting in the death of the embryo or fetus
  • Death - (noun) - a permanent cessation of all vital functions: the end of life
  • From the Planned Parenthood website: You can get an in-clinic abortion at many Planned Parenthood health centers. Our caring doctors and nurses are experts at providing safe abortion and providing support throughout the process.
  • From CDC - 36% of all abortions were performed on black women, who are just 13% of the female population.
  • From Planned Parenthood - Abortions make up 93% of annual business. (yes they said business)
  • From the American Journal of Public Health - Black women continue to have the highest abortion rate at 27.1 per 1,000 women compared with 10 per 1,000 for white women
  • From Margret Sanger and her "Negro Project" (yes this is real) - “How are we to breed a race of human thoroughbreds unless we follow the same plan? We must make this country into a garden of children instead of a disorderly back lot overrun with human weeds.” (1924)
These are all researchable and verified facts. Planned Parenthood kills thousands of black babies annually and has killed millions since its inception.

An abortion is a procedure to end a pregnancy. It uses medicine or surgery to remove the embryo or fetus and placenta from the uterus. The procedure is done by a licensed health care professional.

your dumb ass doesnt know that its IMPOSSIBLE to abort A BABY. a BABY has been BORN.

before 12 weeks its an embryo, after that its a fetus and 8 weeks later it could be termed VIABLE and you'll more than likely have to have a C SECTION to deliver it. you cant get a c section for the sole purpose of ending a pregnancy anywhere in the country.

youre using loaded right wing terminology that is non scientific, non medical and purposefully provocative.

Planned Parenthood DOES NOT KILL BABIES, you lying prick. in fact, they might be the only option for women to get ANY health care.

Again, what a person does with facts neither you nor I can control. Nonetheless, a fact is a fact is a fact.
a fact is meaningless without context.


Again, what a person does with facts neither you nor I can control. Nonetheless, a fact is a fact is a fact. You are absolutely entitled to your opinion. Nonetheless, I believe that I have made every effort to refrain from inserting my opinion. To draw a conclusion based upon facts is not an opinion, We have to get away from this "right-wing" and "left-wing" talk. Fox News and CNN have us talking and thinking crazy and ignoring facts and real information.

youre a delusional motherfucker. learn the difference between anecdotes and facts. you do not have any facts to conclude WHY Black people vote for democrats. youre lying if you say anything other than that.
 
I think after his cancer bout he said fuck it I'm gonna die soon anyway let me have this last time with my family, having fun and being together out here with the political party i'm affiliated with and go out with no fucks given, and that's exactly what he did.

IDK if he would not have died anyway with his health and age factors the way they were after having colon cancer.

Basically 2 out of 3 survival rate, at the stage he had survived, if he had worn a mask he might have lasted a little longer.

.
Fasho. He was a real Ty-Coon
 
An abortion is a procedure to end a pregnancy. It uses medicine or surgery to remove the embryo or fetus and placenta from the uterus. The procedure is done by a licensed health care professional.

your dumb ass doesnt know that its IMPOSSIBLE to abort A BABY. a BABY has been BORN.
This a matter of semantics. You state that a fetus is not a baby until it is born. This is simply pro-choice terminology to keep people from acknowledging that what is inside the womb is a living thing. However, as a medical professional, and yes, I am a medical professional, we do consider embryos and fetuses living beings, as do every credible medical establishment in the world. In fact, we are taught in embryology that the embryonic stage is just that, a stage in the development of a baby.

From the Cleveland Clinic: Your baby will be called an embryo from conception until the eighth week of development. After the eighth week, the baby will be called a fetus.
before 12 weeks its an embryo
Actually, it is 8 weeks. And to echo the Cleveland Clinic, a fetus is a baby. The terms embryo and fetus are simply developmental stages of a baby/ human. Just like puberty and menopause are stages.
8 weeks later it could be termed VIABLE and you'll more than likely have to have a C SECTION to deliver it. you cant get a c section for the sole purpose of ending a pregnancy anywhere in the country.
This information is incorrect. The viability of an embryo depends on a multitude of factors and the rate has consistently improved over time. There was a time when an 8-month-old fetus was not considered viable. However, due to technology and medical advancements survival rates have improved drastically. In fact in Japan, the survival rate for a fetus of 22 weeks gestational weeks is over 50%. Scientists are working on artificial wombs which would allow embryos and fetuses to develop outside of the mother's womb. This could essentially become an option for fathers when the woman has decided that she does not want to carry the child and would otherwise choose an abortion.
youre using loaded right wing terminology that is non scientific, non medical and purposefully provocative.
One shouldn't consider the use of facts right-wing terminology. You are correct, I am being purposefully provocative. My hope is to provoke someone who is reading through these posts to think in a broader context.
Planned Parenthood DOES NOT KILL BABIES, you lying prick. in fact, they might be the only option for women to get ANY health care.
We have already established that an abortion results in the death of a fetus. We have established that a fetus is a developmental stage of a baby. To kill means to end the life of a living thing. A baby is a living thing.
a fact is meaningless without context.
No rational person would agree with this statement. A fact can always stand alone. What you are asking for is additional support of facts. For example, Water has a molecular weight of 18g/mol. This is a fact. You can not accept that. So, you ask for justification and support of this fact, what you call context. Even if I do not provide details such as at STP, water has a density of 998.2 grams/Liter calculated from two moles of Hydrogens and one mole of oxygen which allows us to calculate the molar mass, the fact remains that the molecular weight of water is 18g/mol.
youre a delusional motherfucker.
Frome the Cleveland Clinic: Delusional disorder, previously called paranoid disorder, is a type of serious mental illness — called a “psychosis”— in which a person cannot tell what is real from what is imagined. The main feature of this disorder is unshakable beliefs in something untrue.

Everything that I have shared is 100% factual. You can research everything that was presented. In fact, I always encourage people to look up things for themselves to verify. With all due respect, I would argue that you may have self-diagnosed yourself. This is not a diss or attempt to shade you, it is just an observation.
learn the difference between anecdotes and facts.
  • anecdote - a short amusing or interesting story about a real incident or person.
  • fact - a thing that is known or proved to be true.
you do not have any facts to conclude WHY Black people vote for democrats. youre lying if you say anything other than that.
Again, you are asking for a "Why" to a fact. Not providing a "Why" does not negate the fact. It just means you have to either provide facts that are contrary to the aforementioned facts. However, I will entertain your request slightly. We can take our pick of national elections. Fact: no Republican or Independent presidential candidate has received more than 13% of the black vote. This statistic is similar to local and state elections. This can be verified by a simple Google search of election statistics.

Despite my stance regarding abortion, I have never stated that I am against people choosing. I do not smoke cigarettes, yet I support people's decision to smoke if they wish. If people choose to kill babies because it may inconvenience their lives, go right ahead. I do not agree, but they can choose. I do not agree with the idea of transgender, especially as it pertains to minors. However, it is their choice to live that way and I would never infringe on that right. There is a difference in not agreeing or supporting an issue or belief and preventing a person from exercising their right to choose.
 
This a matter of semantics.

no, ITS NOT. its the medical definition...

...you know what, youre too stupid to know youre stupid.

you dont know what anecdotal evidence is. you cant be helped. youre incorrigible.

continue to wallow in your fucked up, coonish, Black people hating shitpool.

but i wont see it. i cant stomach your brand of evil.
 
This a matter of semantics. You state that a fetus is not a baby until it is born. This is simply pro-choice terminology to keep people from acknowledging that what is inside the womb is a living thing. However, as a medical professional, and yes, I am a medical professional, we do consider embryos and fetuses living beings, as do every credible medical establishment in the world. In fact, we are taught in embryology that the embryonic stage is just that, a stage in the development of a baby.

From the Cleveland Clinic: Your baby will be called an embryo from conception until the eighth week of development. After the eighth week, the baby will be called a fetus.

Actually, it is 8 weeks. And to echo the Cleveland Clinic, a fetus is a baby. The terms embryo and fetus are simply developmental stages of a baby/ human. Just like puberty and menopause are stages.

This information is incorrect. The viability of an embryo depends on a multitude of factors and the rate has consistently improved over time. There was a time when an 8-month-old fetus was not considered viable. However, due to technology and medical advancements survival rates have improved drastically. In fact in Japan, the survival rate for a fetus of 22 weeks gestational weeks is over 50%. Scientists are working on artificial wombs which would allow embryos and fetuses to develop outside of the mother's womb. This could essentially become an option for fathers when the woman has decided that she does not want to carry the child and would otherwise choose an abortion.

One shouldn't consider the use of facts right-wing terminology. You are correct, I am being purposefully provocative. My hope is to provoke someone who is reading through these posts to think in a broader context.

We have already established that an abortion results in the death of a fetus. We have established that a fetus is a developmental stage of a baby. To kill means to end the life of a living thing. A baby is a living thing.

No rational person would agree with this statement. A fact can always stand alone. What you are asking for is additional support of facts. For example, Water has a molecular weight of 18g/mol. This is a fact. You can not accept that. So, you ask for justification and support of this fact, what you call context. Even if I do not provide details such as at STP, water has a density of 998.2 grams/Liter calculated from two moles of Hydrogens and one mole of oxygen which allows us to calculate the molar mass, the fact remains that the molecular weight of water is 18g/mol.

Frome the Cleveland Clinic: Delusional disorder, previously called paranoid disorder, is a type of serious mental illness — called a “psychosis”— in which a person cannot tell what is real from what is imagined. The main feature of this disorder is unshakable beliefs in something untrue.

Everything that I have shared is 100% factual. You can research everything that was presented. In fact, I always encourage people to look up things for themselves to verify. With all due respect, I would argue that you may have self-diagnosed yourself. This is not a diss or attempt to shade you, it is just an observation.

  • anecdote - a short amusing or interesting story about a real incident or person.
  • fact - a thing that is known or proved to be true.

Again, you are asking for a "Why" to a fact. Not providing a "Why" does not negate the fact. It just means you have to either provide facts that are contrary to the aforementioned facts. However, I will entertain your request slightly. We can take our pick of national elections. Fact: no Republican or Independent presidential candidate has received more than 13% of the black vote. This statistic is similar to local and state elections. This can be verified by a simple Google search of election statistics.

Despite my stance regarding abortion, I have never stated that I am against people choosing. I do not smoke cigarettes, yet I support people's decision to smoke if they wish. If people choose to kill babies because it may inconvenience their lives, go right ahead. I do not agree, but they can choose. I do not agree with the idea of transgender, especially as it pertains to minors. However, it is their choice to live that way and I would never infringe on that right. There is a difference in not agreeing or supporting an issue or belief and preventing a person from exercising their right to choose.

Nah a fetus is not a baby,,,

thats like saying

a toddler is an adult...
 
Nah a fetus is not a baby,,,

thats like saying

a toddler is an adult...
According to medical dictionaries and as stated by the Cleveland Clinic, a fetus as well as an embryo is a developmental stage of a baby. Many people have this definition wrong. Baby is just a general term. It makes it easier to be OK with abortion by saying that you are not killing a baby, you are aborting a fetus, not understanding that a fetus is a baby. A baby is considered a fetus until it has been birthed, at which time it is now an infant or newborn (though, newborn is not a technical tern either), not a fetus. The word baby and fetus are not interchangeable at all due to one being directly associated with describing the developmental stages of humans. To further expound, a baby that has a gestational period of 9 months is still a fetus until it has been removed at which time it becomes an infant (0-18 months) or newborn. The same can be said for a fetus which has a gestational period of 4 months that has been birth prematurely, it is now an infant or newborn, though pre-mature, but still an infant or newborn nonetheless.

Again the term baby is general. No one ever says,
  • Oh wow, I felt the fetus kicking in my belly.
  • Hey, we found out the sex of the fetus.
  • She's pregnant. That fetus is making her gain weight and have morning sickness.
As I stated before, people can do whatever they want. All I am saying is just call it what it is and be knowledgeable regarding your decisions. No big deal.
 
According to medical dictionaries and as stated by the Cleveland Clinic, a fetus as well as an embryo is a developmental stage of a baby. Many people have this definition wrong. Baby is just a general term. It makes it easier to be OK with abortion by saying that you are not killing a baby, you are aborting a fetus, not understanding that a fetus is a baby. A baby is considered a fetus until it has been birthed, at which time it is now an infant or newborn (though, newborn is not a technical tern either), not a fetus. The word baby and fetus are not interchangeable at all due to one being directly associated with describing the developmental stages of humans. To further expound, a baby that has a gestational period of 9 months is still a fetus until it has been removed at which time it becomes an infant (0-18 months) or newborn. The same can be said for a fetus which has a gestational period of 4 months that has been birth prematurely, it is now an infant or newborn, though pre-mature, but still an infant or newborn nonetheless.

Again the term baby is general. No one ever says,
  • Oh wow, I felt the fetus kicking in my belly.
  • Hey, we found out the sex of the fetus.
  • She's pregnant. That fetus is making her gain weight and have morning sickness.
As I stated before, people can do whatever they want. All I am saying is just call it what it is and be knowledgeable regarding your decisions. No big deal.

Big difference between developmental stages of a baby

and

a actual baby...
 
...you know what, youre too stupid to know youre stupid.

Every Black conservative I have met is like this. The republicans literally have infants and children in cages and are threatening to cut funding to schools for not exposing kids to the virus unnecessarily and they will still try to justify their coonery with some pseudo-religious family values/concern for the family/children bullshit. :smh: :lol:
 
Is a tadpole a frog?
Actually, yes it is. It is a developmental stage of a frog. Just as a toddler is still a human.
Is a cocoon a butterfly...??
No, it is not. Just like a placenta is not a human either. You are drawing false equivalencies here. It would have been more accurate to ask if a pupa or chrysalis is a butterfly. This is what is located inside the "cocoon." To this, my reply would be yes and no. Butterflies do not develop in a manner that is completely comparable to humans. Butterflies undergo metamorphosis. If one is asked to describe the developmental stages of a butterfly you would include the pupa stage which is prior to the metamorphosis into the adult butterfly.
They are both in developing stages.
Yes, they both are developmental stages. We all agree on this. I have stated this numerous times within this thread. However, no one has provided any factual or scientific information contrary to the statement that a fetus is a developmental stage of a human. Nor has anyone provided any factual or scientific information that contradicts anything that I have presented,

To be fully transparent, I must concede that within the medical community, there is no consensus regarding the issue of abortion. Because the topic of abortion is so polarising, the medical establishment has decided not to engage in any actions at this time that could be construed as being pro-life or pro-choice. However, there is an overwhelming consensus that from the moment of conception, an embryo is a human being. This is the only point I have defended. The debate is regarding when does a human being become a person.

So, for discussion's sake, let's use the argument that a fetus is not a baby. There are several moral positions that society has established that says that a fetus is a person. One of many such examples, 78% of U.S. states have laws that deem when a person kills a pregnant woman, he or she is charged in a double homicide. Another example, if a fetus was to die as a result of someone's deliberate action, (a crazy boyfriend or girlfriend punches a pregnant woman in the stomach for example) he or she is charged with murder. Foeticide is a new term being used to describe the homicide of a fetus. Regarding our conversation, the argument that a fetus is not a baby is an irrelevant argument unless you are stating that abortion is OK as it is performed on fetuses only.

Before we take it down this road, let me restate that though I disagree with abortion, I would never infringe on a person's right to kill their fetus or unborn baby.
 
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Actually, yes it is. It is a developmental stage of a frog. Just as a toddler is still a human.
QUOTE="Mrfreddygoodbud, post: 21150447, member: 20117"]
Is a cocoon a butterfly...??
No, it is not. Just like a placenta is not a human either. You are drawing false equivalencies here. It would have been more accurate to ask if a pupa or chrysalis is a butterfly. This is what is located inside the "cocoon." To this, my reply would be yes and no. Butterflies do not develop in a manner that is completely comparable to humans. Butterflies undergo metamorphosis. If one is asked to describe the developmental stages of a butterfly you would include the pupa stage which is prior to the metamorphosis into the adult butterfly.
QUOTE="Mrfreddygoodbud, post: 21150447, member: 20117"]
They are both in developing stages.
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Yes, they both are developmental stages. We all agree on this. I have stated this numerous times within this thread. However, no one has provided any factual or scientific information contrary to the statement that a fetus is a developmental stage of a human. Nor has anyone provided any factual or scientific information that contradicts anything that I have presented,

To be fully transparent, I must concede that within the medical community, there is no consensus regarding the issue of abortion. Because the topic of abortion is so polarising, the medical establishment has decided not to engage in any actions at this time that could be construed as being pro-life or pro-choice. However, there is an overwhelming consensus that from the moment of conception, an embryo is a human being. This is the only point I have defended. The debate is regarding when does a human being become a person.

So, for discussion's sake, let's use the argument that a fetus is not a baby. There are several moral positions that society has established that says that a fetus is a person. One of many such examples, 78% of U.S. states have laws that deem when a person kills a pregnant woman, he or she is charged in a double homicide. Another example, if a fetus was to die as a result of someone's deliberate action, (a crazy boyfriend or girlfriend punches a pregnant woman in the stomach for example) he or she is charged with murder. Foeticide is a new term being used to describe the homicide of a fetus. Regarding our conversation, the argument that a fetus is not a baby is an irrelevant argument unless you are stating that abortion is OK as it is performed on fetuses only.

Before we take it down this road, let me restate that though I disagree with abortion, I would never infringe on a person's right to kill their fetus or unborn baby.
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