The Impeachment Hearings , House Vote and Eventual Trial ..All Updates ...AS EXPECTED... TRUMP SKATES

Are you fucking slow? This the last time I'm going to respond to you. I got posts going back months on this topic.

To make it simple for you, I said impeachment was a mistake and dems should solely focus on the issues and try to beat him in 2020. And no, doing both wasn't an option since fails give Trumps Ws he can use in the 2020 run. I've commented numerous times that Pelosi deserves respect for keeping these emotional asses in check, but she finally caved.

Shit wasn't hard to call since I'm not in my emotions over Trump.
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you know what...you DID say that...and its the most unimpressive and unremarkable thing you've spouted so far...

have you seen the jobs report?? have you seen the stock market???

Nonfarm payrolls surged 225,000 for the month, well above Wall Street estimates for a 158,000 gain.

Average hourly earnings rose 3.1% over a year ago to $28.44, ahead of estimates for 3% growth.

Eligible Southwest Airlines employees will get a bonus in March equivalent to about six weeks of pay, thanks to the airline’s profit-sharing program. The company said it will spend a total of $667 million on the incentive this year, up from $544 million in 2019.


have you seen the people running on the dem side?? Not exactly a super inspiring bunch.
you go on and on about how easily people are manipulated yet you thing talking about "the issues" is gonna turn heads? :hmm::lol::hmm::lol:

Under these circumstances the calculation to impeach trump to beat him was worth a shot considering everything else...on top of it just being the right thing to do..

so to recap your "solution" was essentially DO NOTHNG. :hmm::hmm::hmm::hmm: got it...:rolleyes2::rolleyes2::rolleyes2::rolleyes2:
 
Are you fucking slow? This the last time I'm going to respond to you. I got posts going back months on this topic.

To make it simple for you, I said impeachment was a mistake and dems should solely focus on the issues and try to beat him in 2020. And no, doing both wasn't an option since fails give Trumps Ws he can use in the 2020 run. I've commented numerous times that Pelosi deserves respect for keeping these emotional asses in check, but she finally caved.

Shit wasn't hard to call since I'm not in my emotions over Trump.
You and I agree on a lot. However unlike yourself I'm not certain impeachment was a mistake. The house dems felt it was necessary to maintain the integrity and principles of the institution, particularly the obstruction of congress article. We all knew he wouldn't get convicted, so no ones feelings should be hurt by what happened. It did force each GOP senator to take a 21st century stand for the new gold standard of partisan, political hypocrisy, for which they will be judged. Problem is, it did seemingly strengthen Trump. Yet, even if (god forbid) he gets another term it can't last forever. They have all been branded in the head by him and can't deny it. I agree with you, if you mean principles and integrity don't win in politics anymore, so I'm not sure what the best course of action is for those who oppose the GOP. I'm hoping one of the 2020 candidates can formulate a plan to build a working coalition. Iowa got me skeptical tho.
 
You and I agree on a lot. However unlike yourself I'm not certain impeachment was a mistake. The house dems felt it was necessary to maintain the integrity and principles of the institution, particularly the obstruction of congress article. We all knew he wouldn't get convicted, so no ones feelings should be hurt by what happened. It did force each GOP senator to take a 21st century stand for the new gold standard of partisan, political hypocrisy, for which they will be judged. Problem is, it did seemingly strengthen Trump. Yet, even if (god forbid) he gets another term it can't last forever. They have all been branded in the head by him and can't deny it. I agree with you, if you mean principles and integrity don't win in politics anymore, so I'm not sure what the best course of action is for those who oppose the GOP. I'm hoping one of the 2020 candidates can formulate a plan to build a working coalition. Iowa got me skeptical tho.
Not for nothing, but there is no integrity and principles in this country. There's just show and pretend. I hate to keep bringing up Iraq, but that lie went un fucking checked. They actually brought back the cocksucker Mueller to be the hero for the Russian move. Same one who was full of shit during the Iraq speeches. So lets cut the integrity and principle argument out. All these fucks are full of shit. Trump just openly flaunts it.

The reason why they impeached is because the loudest, most emotional voices on the left keep calling for blood. These voices overpower the logic and reasonable ones. Pelosi caved. What amazes me is that this principle, integrity, rule of law, etc shit even flies on BGOL, a board full of black men who should know better. It's like believing operation Iraq freedom was about freedom. Who falls for that shit? Usually, not black folks.

Some folks are redoing their arguments. :smh: If you go back, cats were saying that this impeachment trial would affect Trump's popularity and support. That Americans tuning in would see this shit and turn on Trump. Since that shit didn't come close to happening(like I said), now cats falling back on this 'rule of law' narrative.

The first step in beating Trump is to stop being so emotional about him. Stop reacting. Left emotion took him from a joke candidate to a complete takeover of the party. It's what keeps him popular. Concentrate on doing some fucking work on issues and let Trump and the republicans start to fight. There is a tense alliance on that side and the emotional dems failed to take advantage of it.
 
Not for nothing, but there is no integrity and principles in this country. There's just show and pretend. I hate to keep bringing up Iraq, but that lie went un fucking checked. They actually brought back the cocksucker Mueller to be the hero for the Russian move. Same one who was full of shit during the Iraq speeches. So lets cut the integrity and principle argument out. All these fucks are full of shit. Trump just openly flaunts it.

The reason why they impeached is because the loudest, most emotional voices on the left keep calling for blood. These voices overpower the logic and reasonable ones. Pelosi caved. What amazes me is that this principle, integrity, rule of law, etc shit even flies on BGOL, a board full of black men who should know better. It's like believing operation Iraq freedom was about freedom. Who falls for that shit? Usually, not black folks.

Some folks are redoing their arguments. :smh: If you go back, cats were saying that this impeachment trial would affect Trump's popularity and support. That Americans tuning in would see this shit and turn on Trump. Since that shit didn't come close to happening(like I said), now cats falling back on this 'rule of law' narrative.

The first step in beating Trump is to stop being so emotional about him. Stop reacting. Left emotion took him from a joke candidate to a complete takeover of the party. It's what keeps him popular. Concentrate on doing some fucking work on issues and let Trump and the republicans start to fight. There is a tense alliance on that side and the emotional dems failed to take advantage of it.

Mane you a killa, but its all good. I am unaware of Muller's roll in the Iraq war saga so I'll research it. I don't think we can completely forego the ideals of of integrity and solid principles, as the GOP has just proven they are more than willing to do. Should we be like them, win and maintain power at any cost. Compassion and empathy are emotions I refuse to abandon. I know elements of the DNC are also corrupt and have been forever. Its not always easy but I try not to let emotions like anger and jealousy sway my political inclinations. As I said, I'm less hopeful, but it could happen that one of the 2020 contenders gets it together and pull off an upset against Trump.
 
Some folks are redoing their arguments. :smh: If you go back, cats were saying that this impeachment trial would affect Trump's popularity and support. That Americans tuning in would see this shit and turn on Trump. Since that shit didn't come close to happening(like I said), now cats falling back on this 'rule of law' narrative.

The first step in beating Trump is to stop being so emotional about him. Stop reacting. Left emotion took him from a joke candidate to a complete takeover of the party. It's what keeps him popular. Concentrate on doing some fucking work on issues and let Trump and the republicans start to fight. There is a tense alliance on that side and the emotional dems failed to take advantage of it.


Facts. Trump is a absolute joke in politics and as a candidate but the reason why he keeps winning because these thin skin democrats are way too emotional. When you use emotions when making decisions you are bound to fuck up.

I was telling cats for months that impeachment will backfire and it will only help trump. But people keep calling me a trump supporter. I’m not a trump supporter, I’m just not fucking stupid.

Democrats keep trying to attack trump character. But anybody with common sense or a little game will know that it won’t work. People have to understand that most of America knows trump is a piece of shit. He got caught saying he likes to grab women by there pussy and still won a election. So his character means nothing. It’s like throwing mud on a muddy shirt.

Best way to beat him is to focus on issue that voters care about or like the Young Turks said it best.

 
President "Bone Spurs" exacts his revenge....


Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, a key impeachment witness who enraged Trump, escorted out of the White House



As he should, and I see he got Sundland too. No matter who you are.

Someone snitches and puts charges on you. And you beat those charges. How you gonna be a boss and let them stay around.

makes no sense.

:D its like the end of Godfather

 
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See, I look at things differently than you. Trump is just a windbag to me. Has he done anything as sinister as the Patriot Act? Because if he did, I missed it.

As for the election, shit has always been shit. What do we always get? Lesser of two evils. Same ol' fucking shit. Ain't none of these crooked fucks making it to the general unless the elite and powerful want them to. So by the time the general hits, it is what is. Unless you really believe that the most crooked cacs in the world going to let other folks fuck them over.

You worried about militias? Meanwhile, I'm in Ohio(Trump country) and it's business as usual for me. Only cacs to worry about are the pigs, and no one is doing shit to get them in fucking check. These cacs in Ohio scared to put Trump bumper stickers on their cars and folks on the left amping up the empowered cac narrative. That shit is coming from people in hippie land tweeting from starbucks. Or is Ohio not full of racists cac no more?

Trumps base are fucking retards. They don't even realize he played them. I recently found out the deportation/detention numbers and was fucking floored. They ain't shit, but I've been told it was the end times. :lol: But that goes to my point that he lives and thrives off the fear mongering from the left. His supporters see that shit and think he's doing something.

Checks and balances? Fam, this is politics as usual BUT without the class and pretend.

As far as actual damage, Trump hasn't even caught Clinton. All this pearl clutching from democrats is funny as hell to me. Folks vote him out in 2020 and what will his legacy be? Shit. Nothing. Mean tweets. Oh yeah, Judges, but everyone gets fucking judges.

Bruh, you're smart and cool etc but I feel like you're way tf out to lunch the way you minimize the incredible fuckery going on rn. On the one hand... sure, Iraq, Corporate Regulatory Capture, systemic racial injustice, fake jingoism = bad and both parties are complicit in the fuckery no doubt. But this notion that bc things aren't as bad as they could possibly be and that the clear breakdown of norms/institutions which are very much in line with the historical rise of fascism is mere crybaby handwringing from a bunch of limpdicked "SJW"s doesnt square with reality at all. Trump just fired Lt. Col Vindman today (and his brother lol). Every move this fucker makes is out of the autocrat playbook. Y'all dudes will be singing this same tune until shit is made plain to you on some boiling frog type shit. Fuck Trump. Fuck the GOP who essentially made him a King on Wednesday and fuck all the apologists pretending these weak fucking Dems are "the same" :smh:
 
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Bad News For Trump As Poll Shows Impeachment Helped House Democrats

BY JASON EASLEY

Bad News For Trump As Poll Shows Impeachment Helped House Democrats

A new Gallup Poll revealed that support for House incumbents is at its highest level since 2012, which means impeachment didn’t hurt Democrats.


According to Gallup, “Democrats have a solid majority in the U.S. House of Representatives, and the elevated 59% of Americans saying their member of Congress deserves reelection augurs well for their bid to maintain their majority next year. This assumes, however, that the 59% holds for the remaining nine months before Election Day. If Americans still feel their member deserves another term at a similar level closer to November, this could mean a favorable environment for Democrats’ prospects of maintaining power in at least one chamber of Congress.”

Trump thinks that he is going to use impeachment to get his revenge on Nancy Pelosi for impeaching him, but the numbers suggest that if Trump tries to win back the House, he will be wasting his time.

The conventional wisdom among Trump supporters that impeachment would hurt the House Democratic majority is turning out to have been very wrong. Impeachment has made House Democrats more popular with voters back home in their districts.

While the nation is focused on House and Senate races, it looks Speaker Pelosi is going to guide House Democrats to a smooth majority victory in November.
 
Trump Is Treating Michigan the Way He Treated Ukraine. Well Done, Senate Republicans
Ryan Bort
Rolling StoneMay 20, 2020, 4:29 PM EDT

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A few weeks before President Trump was impeached last December for attempting to blackmail Ukraine into investigating Joe Biden, Stanford law professor Pamela Karlan warned the House Judiciary Committee of a future in which the president used similar tactics on his own country:

“Imagine living in a part of Louisiana or Texas that’s prone to devastating hurricanes and flooding. What would you think if you lived there and your governor asked for a meeting with the president to discuss getting disaster aid that Congress has provided for? What would you think if that president said, ‘I would like you to do us a favor? I’ll meet with you, and send the disaster relief, once you brand my opponent a criminal.’

Wouldn’t you know in your gut that such a president has abused his office? That he’d betrayed the national interest, and that he was trying to corrupt the electoral process? I believe the evidentiary record shows wrongful acts on those scale here.”


It didn’t take long for Karlan’s hypothetical to sidle up next to reality. Trump has repeatedly criticized Democratic governors throughout the coronavirus crisis, the implication being that there could be repercussions if they fail to cooperate with the administration or show their gratitude to the president. In late March, Trump came pretty close to laying out a quid pro quo during an interview with Fox News. “It’s a two-way street,” the president said while discussing states in need of federal assistance. “They have to treat us well, also.”

On Wednesday, Trump’s demands grew more specific. As part of his morning Twitter movement, he posted that he will withhold funding from Michigan and Nevada, two key swing states, if they expand voter access ahead of the 2020 election.




Trump initially accused Michigan of sending out vote-by-mail ballots to residents, before later posting a corrected tweet (and deleting the earlier one) specifying that they’re sending out vote-by-mail applications. But so are Republican-controlled states like Georgia. Nothing remotely “illegal” is taking place here. But these types of distinctions — or, facts — are immaterial to Trump’s continued effort to restrict voter access and sow doubt in the legitimacy of the electoral process.

Just to be clear: There is no evidence of widespread voter fraud, either by millions crossing state lines to vote multiple times, a nonexistent scheme Trump has cited in explaining his popular-vote loss to Hillary Clinton, or through vote-by-mail. According to a recent survey published by the Stanford Institute for Economic Policy Research, there’s no evidence vote-by-mail helps Democrats, either. The only thing expanding vote-by-mail means is more people will be able to vote, especially as the coronavirus has heightened the risk of standing in lines.

Lambasting the practice has nevertheless become a tent pole of Trump’s 2020 campaign, the goal being to ensure as few Americans as possible are able to make it to the polls. Trump believes that the more people who vote, the worse his chances are. He said as much while discussing Democrats’ efforts to increase funding for absentee ballots and vote-by-mail in the coronavirus relief package. “They had levels of voting, that if you ever agreed to it you’d never have a Republican elected in this country again,” he told Fox News on March 30th.

Now, Trump is trying to blackmail crucial swing states into suppressing their vote-by-mail initiatives. One of them, Michigan, is not only struggling with COVID-19, but with historic floods in the center of the state. How could Trump be so brazen? Well, he already got away with trying to blackmail a foreign nation into interfering in the 2020 election. Why wouldn’t he do it again?

Karlan tried to warn the House of Representatives that this could happen. After Trump was impeached, Democrats issued similar warnings to the Senate Republicans voting on whether to remove him from office. “The president solicited a personal political benefit in exchange for an official act,” Rep. Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) said during the impeachment trial. “If this Senate were to say, ‘That’s acceptable’ … [this] could take place all across America in the context of the next election, with grants allocated to cities or towns or municipalities all across the country.”

But Senate Republicans did indeed deem it acceptable, many of them arguing that Trump having to endure the impeachment process was punishment enough. “I believe that the president has learned from this case,” Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) told CBS News after Trump was acquitted. “The president has been impeached. That’s a pretty big lesson.”

Three months later, the lesson appears to be that that even if Trump flagrantly abuses his office, Senate Republicans will vote to protect him.
 
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