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Big men like Drummond & the Capelas of the world are becoming more expendable in today's NBA. Every GM wants a big man like Anthony Davis now but it's harder to get a player that can be like Davis.
So... Ish Smith has the juice now?
Im surprised people dont like the Drummond trade. We gave up nothing to get him.
I like the trade for all parties involved. I do wonder if Drummond is going to get his paid day this summer. If you seen him play this season, you can see that this is clearly a contract year
I'm just worried that most modern day GMs see his style of play as a dying artform and won't give him the money he deserves.
You think Wiggins gonna take them to the top?
It's a horrible trade for GS; Wiggins is a bust it's that simple. He was rated to have the worst contract in the NBA. He an average defender at best. Hes completely inefficient scorer. Takes terrible shots. Mid range game is inefficient. Hes been in the league a long time. Hes not good nor is he no where near Barnes. Minny won on this deal......
I would have bet good money a few years back Isiah Thomas would have retired a Boston Celtics...
this is ALL business
I aint trying to hear these white folk talk that loyalty to me.
You would’ve lost that bet!
Isiah was great for the Celtics but they weren’t paying max money to a 5’7 guard. The Celtics nines this, Isiah didn’t.
If he was 6’6 or above, he would’ve gotten his money.
that is exactly what I'm saying
at the the time the love he got? I would have thought it was forever.
and well the injury did not help either.
Injured or not, I’m my opinion they were Never giving him the max that he wanted.
And yes, they did him wrong.
Gary Harris went 0-13 right before the trade deadline....that's a sign.
JRUE! JRUE! JRUE!....
Who the fook is Jordan McRae?
Man bro he's always injured. He's good defensively and has crazy acrobatic layup game but he always gets injured and then it takes a lot of time for him to get going after he returns.
I like the trade for all parties involved. I do wonder if Drummond is going to get his paid day this summer. If you seen him play this season, you can see that this is clearly a contract year
I'm just worried that most modern day GMs see his style of play as a dying artform and won't give him the money he deserves.
Im seeing Piston fans saying Drummond is an average defender... I dont know,how true it, since I don't watch too many Pistons games..
I don't understand,why every center has to shoot threes but Beilein will get him to take more threes. He did it with Tristan.
Speaking of Tristan, what the Cavs going to do since they're not going to buyout his contract.
we completely disagree
Barnes maximized his ability with coaching from the warriors and playing with the warriors
he left and literally nobody has said his name ever again.
Wiggins isn't GREAT he is unpolished and hasn't been coached a day in his career
its 50/50 on whether he can do something.
you CAN'T have Russell out there that was proven.
wiggins plus the picks.
or Russell off the bench?
You can disagree. But Barnes was way more efficient scorer. I can post stats to prove it. Barnes was a lot stronger and better defensive player and it's not close. Barnes issue was he completely shit the bed in the finals. Wiggins has been in the league long enough to know what he is. He may improve but I will bet it won't be by that much. There's a reason minny couldn't trade him to anyone else. Russell probably would not have worked with steph and klay. But that deal could have been there in the summer. They should have gotten at least 1 more 1st for the horrible contract. This fool is getting 30 plus million a year for the next 3. For an inefficient scorer and average defensive player
GS should have waited until the summer. Never know what would have came about.
Yeah Wiggins contract is terrible for the player he is. He started out blazing the first 20 games but has kinda flattened out since which was expected. I don’t think he’s a max player but he was in Minny where they definitely had the money available and it’s not a free agent hotbed. Hopefully Kerr can do something with Wiggins. He doesn’t like to pass and that offense is predicted on ball movement. I think he’ll be better defensively but still not that lockdown guy because he lacks the passion on that side of the ball.You can disagree. But Barnes was way more efficient scorer. I can post stats to prove it. Barnes was a lot stronger and better defensive player and it's not close. Barnes issue was he completely shit the bed in the finals. Wiggins has been in the league long enough to know what he is. He may improve but I will bet it won't be by that much. There's a reason minny couldn't trade him to anyone else. Russell probably would not have worked with steph and klay. But that deal could have been there in the summer. They should have gotten at least 1 more 1st for the horrible contract. This fool is getting 30 plus million a year for the next 3. For an inefficient scorer and average defensive player
You know what they say.. The best ability is availability
Still can't believe pat was able to get rid of Waiters
Rob Palinka is still a fucking failure.
Yeah man. Kenny smith just said the same thing just now on TNT
I understand, he's not a three-point shooter but I've seen so many people down on Drummond.
I dont understand,why anyone who never seen a Cavs basketball would open their mouth on Sexton...I've never seen a guard that can score 20 a night get so much hate.
Does he has flaws, yes but he's only 21 years old. People act like he's a ten year vet.
This article to me summarize Wiggins. I personally feel hes not good at all....
What we know about the Russell for Wiggins trade
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D’Angelo Russell’s short stint with the Warriors is over, a new, highly-paid player is welcomed into the fold. Here’s everything you need to know.
By Brady Klopfer@BradyKlopferNBA Feb 6, 2020, 1:17pm PST
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The Golden State Warriors ended the trade deadline with an absolute splash, swapping max contracts with the Minnesota Timberwolves. D’Angelo Russell is out, Andrew Wiggins is in.
That’s a lot to digest, and over the next days, weeks, months, and perhaps years, we’ll collectively digest it, and try and figure out what it means, for good and for bad.
In the meantime, here’s everything we know about the trade: What it is, what it means, and why it happened.
The details
Warriors get: Andrew Wiggins; Minnesota’s 2021 first-round pick, top-three protected (if it does not convey, it becomes an unprotected 2022 first-round pick); Minnesota’s 2021 second-round pick.
Warriors lose: D’Angelo Russell; Omari Spellman; Jacob Evans III
The contract
Wiggins signed a five-year, $148 million max contract that started last year. That contract lined up pretty nicely with Russell’s, which facilitated the trade.
After this year, Wiggins will be left with three years on his deal, worth just under $95 million. Which means the Warriors still have a ton of money on the books.
Why Wiggins?
The general sentiment - which I’ll fully admit to partaking in - was that the Warriors would be open to trading Russell for an established star, such as a max player demanding a trade. And if such a deal never materialized, they would be happy to have him filling out a backcourt with Steph Curry and Klay Thompson, at least for a year or two.
That obviously didn’t happen. The Warriors moved on from Russell quickly, without waiting to see if a disgruntled Ben Simmons or Devin Bookerappeared. And what they got back is a player that, while having once been selected first overall, is a long, long ways away from stardom.
Some people in the Warriors organization are confident in the team’s ability to turn Wiggins around. He has shown signs - his efficiency and playmaking were much improved to start the season, before falling off. He’s inefficient and poor at defense, but there are tools for Steve Kerr, Jarron Collins, and the rest of the coaching staff to work with (not to mention Curry and Draymond Green).
There are reasons for optimism, even if I don’t share them.
Ultimately, the inclusion of Wiggins is less about Wiggins, and more about availability. He was a matching contract, from a team willing to part with a valuable draft pick in what figures to be a strong draft. He’s young, has some untapped potential, and could be an asset down the road.
And, of course, there’s another element at play . . .
Why were Spellman and Evans included?
The Warriors picked up both players’ third-year options earlier in the season. They were openly high on Spellman. You could understand using the trade as an opportunity to dump Evans’ contract, but Spellman’s? Why not hang onto him?
Simple: Money.
By sending out additional contracts, the Warriors are able to get under the tax - no small feat for a team used to cutting nine-figure luxury tax payments.
That’s less important for their wallets this season, and more important next season, when they can avoid having to pay the repeater tax. It also opens up more doors to use the trade exception gained by trading Andre Iguodala (and, to a lesser extent, Shabazz Napier and Treveon Graham).
Is this part of a bigger deal?
Russell is 23, an All-Star, and quite frankly just better than Wiggins, who is 24. So it won’t be as easy to trade Wiggins as it was to trade Russell. But that doesn’t mean it’s impossible.
The Warriors now have some assets to trade. They’re starting to gain back some second-round picks, and they have two very good first-rounders: Their own this year, and Minnesota’s next year.
If another team gains interest in Wiggins - or if Wiggins looks improved alongside a star-studded Warriors team next year - a bigger move could happen.
Or something focusing on the draft picks and trade exceptions could be in the works.
The deadline has passed, so the Warriors are officially done with trades until June, though you can expect a flurry of small signings, since they don’t have enough players to field a roster.
What happens next?
The Warriors are going to be ugly for a while. We know Wiggins isn’t a good player on a bad team, and the Warriors are a really, really bad team. Until Curry returns, we won’t really get a glimpse of what the future of this team could look like.
But it does make Curry’s return that much more important.
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The three moves they made to remove themselves from laughing stock status have been...Wtf is the lakeshow doing??
1) sign bron
2) trade bums for AD
3) convince Danny Green to come
All of those 3 were orchestrated by Lebron. Every other move initiated and attempted by the actual team and front office has been a fucking failure. Im looking forward to hearing about how they shit the bed on todays trade deadline.
He isnt. He also does nothing well a wing man needs to do well in that Warriors system... besides run the floor i guess. And his contract is horrible. Wouldnt be surprised if they try to flip him this summer.
I've always stated.
NBA should be a 20 team league, playing a 38 game season similar to European soccer. (just with out the extra tournaments and shit)
People don’t dislike it I think we all confused. Why are the Cavs trading for him? And why is his value so low? I know the league is getting away from big men but damn.
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