The Impeachment Hearings , House Vote and Eventual Trial ..All Updates ...AS EXPECTED... TRUMP SKATES

I'm glad he is getting away with this shit....

It doesn't affect most black people at all...

It only affects us cause our feelings hurt his racist ass in the WH.

He is doing so much future damage to the white race & they're blind to it!
 
The fact that they are having a trial without witnesses sets a precedent that will never be undone.

Russia wins without firing a shot.
These 5 years, campaign and then administration for Trump, have been crazy. I really can’t believe the stuff he has gotten away with. The Russia angle makes all this crazy. When will Russia show their true face and start undermining the GOP. Maybe they won’t, but I don’t think their endgame stops here. Hopefully, they’re satisfied with the damage they have done and won’t try to dismantle us completely. This is one time I am hoping they’re actually in lockstep with the GOP and they just want to be allies.
 
I can't make it past point 1. Anyone who thinks like point 1 is child-like. They must be in their teens or early 20s. Because the dems didn't 'do the right thing' with Iraq and Afghanistan when Bush was war mongering, did they? Hell no. They did what it took to advance their political careers and only 'did the right thing' when it became cool to do so.
I couldn't make it past your point 1, either. You start off with a blanket assumption and ignore that I'm only talking about this specific instance. I don't for one second think that any politicians act solely in a selfless fashion, and of course Democratic legislators are just as capable of being self serving. I am in no way "young" or naive, but if believing that makes you feel better than thinking someone is nuanced enough to see reality and also want it to be better, than so be it.

And you also bite back with false equivalency. Yes, there has been previous levels of shadiness by everyone. No, it isn't new. But like I've said and been saying, the part where it happens in broad daylight and is also greenlit/ignored by the electorate is definitely worse than it used to be. Naysayers act like they can't see the handwriting on the wall or are just so nihilistic as to literally want things to fall apart. The latter can't be reached, and the former don't understand enough to be reached.

I'm fine with admitting that Democrats play the game wrong on many occasions, and it costs them. But when the level of fuckery has reached this point, there isn't anything to end-around by trying to play more games. You talk about making Trump stronger, but he can't be stronger with his base than he already is. I don't see the point in tapdancing around the issues like he isn't going to lie and say he's right regardless of what happens. Put the truth out there, and then if we keep going this hole, at least we know we did what we could on that front.

But I agree on a few things, too. Now that we've pushed through (or seem to be about to push through) this process, it is time to focus harder on issues. Healthcare is a lynchpin issue in the minds of people, and very few candidates are pushing it at all.
 
No, if a democrat president gets in the same situation republicans without shame will demand witnesses, and democrats would most likely give it to them.
Of the things that bother me, this is mildly irritating. Democrats do this fairly consistently. I get not wanting to seem like the bad guy you were fighting, but at the same time, this isn't a wrestling match. If Dems can ever get control again, I don't know if the exact process and procedure of the law will be able to fix the damage that's been done.

The model for how Congress is run needs to be overhauled, and I don't even know that we have a system that can make that happen.
 
And Water is wet. Why do people act shocked. Wonder why impeachment has such low ratings and nobody is watching. Everybody already knows the outcome!

They were never going to remove him, but to simply not have a single witness or document is fucking absurd. At this point Trump can literally have anything done, deny it and refuse to be investigated.

We have never had an administration this complicit in criminal behavior. The US swings left and right, do you want the next Dem president to make sex with a prostitute cause for castration?
 
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They were never going to remove him, but to simply not have a single witness or document is fucking absurd. At this point Trump can literally have anything done, deny it and refuse to be investigated.

We have never had an administration this complicit in criminal behavior. The US swings left and right, do you want the next Dem president to make sex with a prostitute cause for castration?

Trump has already said funding for HBCU's is not constitutional. He has also been redirecting funds to his wall and caging folks. They are so corrupt that the immigration judges want to be independent of the DOJ. There will be nothing stopping him from diverting funds from that or any other program, then hiding or shredding evidence.
 
They were never going to remove him, but to simply not have a single witness or document is fucking absurd.

Oh?

In January 1999, then-Sen. Joe Biden argued strongly against the need to depose additional witnesses or seek new evidence in a memo sent to fellow Democrats ahead of President Bill Clinton’s impeachment trial.

“The Senate may dismiss articles of impeachment without holding a full trial or taking new evidence. Put another way, the Constitution does not impose on the Senate the duty to hold a trial,” Biden wrote at the time.

 
Oh?

In January 1999, then-Sen. Joe Biden argued strongly against the need to depose additional witnesses or seek new evidence in a memo sent to fellow Democrats ahead of President Bill Clinton’s impeachment trial.

“The Senate may dismiss articles of impeachment without holding a full trial or taking new evidence. Put another way, the Constitution does not impose on the Senate the duty to hold a trial,” Biden wrote at the time.


Hey Shit Gibbon, were documents produced and testimony given during the Clinton trial?

The documents were provided and even Bill's videos were played about him getting his dick sucked.

Fall ball clown, your MAGA talking points are weak AF.
 
I'm glad he is getting away with this shit....

It doesn't affect most black people at all...

It only affects us cause our feelings hurt his racist ass in the WH.

He is doing so much future damage to the white race & they're blind to it!

This is short sighted and wrong.

Nah.
MichiganToga's opinion is neither wrong or short-sighted.
After Obama, many of these White folks are going Straight-Up INSANE with their MORON45 support.
And would rather be locked in a burning (White) house than allow anyone beside a WHITE MALE to become President again.

Hell.
I'm also glad to see this shit-show happen.
It's just all right up there in our face now.
Republicans have been planning this shit since Goldwater.
And they are now where they've always wanted to be.

If anything, it was the Democrats who were short-sighted here.
Wasting all this time and money over a MORON who even the most blind person could see was going to be acquitted of everything (though again, I'm glad it's on record). Instead of concentrating on the issues from the last election that put him there in the first place. Like Voter Suppression and all other unfair political/voting irregularities. After All, Stacey Abrams shouldn't be fighting that battle by herself.

In this new world of ADOS, "Tangibles", etc, The Democrats have to know that The Black Vote can no longer be taken for granted. But WE definitely need to be on our Voting A-Game here too.

Even with all our inner problems, Black People have been the strongest force since this country's inception. The GOP sees that. That's why they continue to throw every barrier at US. The Democrats? WE can't keep defending a party that can't (or won't) even defend itself.

And let's be REAL here.
Most of the WHITE Dems (Center, Liberal, etc) are no different from their GOP counterparts.
They don't want their WHITE Status Quo fucked with.
Sure. They will feign anger about MORON45, protest, and shit.
But most will go on with their White lives and sacrifice NOTHING!

WE as Black Folks have been through way worse in this country.
 
I hope the democrats start focusing on election 2020 and stop wasting time and money on Donald trump. Why not start focusing on actually winning a election 2020 instead of focusing on a short cut.

But looking at the mainstream media and the democrats faces. It looks like we are heading to a impeachment 2. They don’t know how to take a L. Trump has fucked there heads up and they are all into there emotions and don’t know how to move on from the election 2016.
 
sooo what legal precedents are being set??

a sitting president can ignore subpoenas
a sitting president can enlist the help of foreign countries in our election
a sitting president can engage quid pro quos with government money for their personal advantage as long as they BELIEVE its in the public interest
a sitting president can bypass the proper channels to conduct personal business with foreign countries using public funds

anything else??
 
I am not too sure about that




Unfortunately. Like i said. The most it will do is get voters to rethink the upcoming election, but it's my guess, all Republicans with agent orange are being paid off. Dems should have called their bluff about it being their job to call Bolton. I'm hopeful and see just as much of the news of what may potentially happen, but looks like white supremacy secures this. Someone said at 7:15pm tomorrow there'll be big news... what's left other than an indictment of others or straight acquittal as expected. Pure shitshow.
 
I hope the democrats start focusing on election 2020 and stop wasting time and money on Donald trump. Why not start focusing on actually winning a election 2020 instead of focusing on a short cut.

But looking at the mainstream media and the democrats faces. It looks like we are heading to a impeachment 2. They don’t know how to take a L. Trump has fucked there heads up and they are all into there emotions and don’t know how to move on from the election 2016.
They should have had that lined up 3 yrs ago instead they present

 
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