When the Slave Traders Were African (Colin-worthy but a must-read for ADOS)

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

Moor LITERALLY means black. So he's he's calling himself a descendant of "the blacks".

thank you.

its really not that difficult either they are really mindfucked or masonic agents

who has taken an oath to keep his people dumbed down for six pences of silver...

we are truly awakening...

thank you for actually reading the definition of blackamoor it literally means darkskin person

were blackamoor americans aka moorish americans...

let em know !!! we waking up to the bullshit....

 

[kefta]

How else would (according to your theory) the white man, vastly outnumbered on a foreign continent, be able to enslave millions for hundreds of years?

The racist man, the racist woman and the racist child got to kidnap and enslave Africans because of their advanced weapons of mass destruction and their ability to speak with a forked tongue as well as practice deceit.

 

[gene cisco]

How else would (according to your theory) the white man, vastly outnumbered on a foreign continent, be able to enslave millions for hundreds of years?

That's because he doesn't want to own how African leaders fucked up. It has to be the evil cacs fault. What makes this worse was cacs were trading their best weapon tech away. So folks getting the weapons, supposedly have all the resources on the planet, and still fuck up the deal. That level of leadership incompetence is hard to believe.

Like I mentioned in the other thread years ago, compare that to what the Japanese did on an island with no resources. They quickly copied any tech and used it against cacs.

So anyone talking about advanced weapons doesn't get it. That was the story at the start, but not during the middle and the end(even with advanced weapons cacs were held in check for centuries due to not having numbers). Incompetence is the only excuse for that. Same with the native Americans. 200 fucking years after first trading for guns they were still begging cacs for 'firesticks'. FOH.

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

The racist man, the racist woman and the racist child got to kidnap and enslave Africans because of their advanced weapons of mass destruction and their ability to speak with a forked tongue as well as practice deceit.

nah these cacs got their asses kicked left and fuckin right... they had to bring in jamaican buffalo soldiers to help them fight their battles.. it wasnt no gotdam mongolian indians or fake cracker five dollar indians.

its was the blackamoors those buffalo soldiers were fighting.. and to top it off, they had to flood the places with euro cacs from various nations...

like I said these fools just repeating cracker revisionist shit..

and some of them KNOW IT.....and do it willingly

 

[hardawayz16]

The racist man, the racist woman and the racist child got to kidnap and enslave Africans because of their advanced weapons of mass destruction and their ability to speak with a forked tongue as well as practice deceit.

Why weren't those weapons of mass destruction used to enslave people in other countries/continents? If its that easy...

 

[hardawayz16]

That's because he doesn't want to own how African leaders fucked up. It has to be the evil cacs fault. What makes this worse was cacs were trading their best weapon tech away. So folks getting the weapons, supposedly have all the resources on the planet, and still fuck up the deal. That level of leadership incompetence is hard to believe.

The truth is bad, but his story is even worse.

We were "deceived" for hundreds of years? So we were just weak, powerless imbeciles who folded at the sight of a few guns.

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

btw its not like I dont know you agents are known for being

the same people with various screen names, that you use, to make it appear, its mulitple people agreeing with you, when in fact its just you and your stupid

agent tricks....

 

[xfactor]

Wrong about what? The Phoenicians? The Carthaginians? Hannibal not being black? The Moors primarily being Arabs and Arabized Berbers from North Africa? Black Americans being descended from West and Central African people who were kidnapped and sold by African rulers to Europeans?

Which of these issues am I wrong about?

Don’t know about the discussion related to the others but the bolded comment is incorrect.

 

[hardawayz16]

btw its not like I dont know you agents are known for being

the same people with various screen names, that you use, to make it appear, its mulitple people agreeing with you, when in fact its just you and your stupid

agent tricks....

Hey, I'm not mad at you for being deeply ashamed and denying your West African roots.

When you hear stories like @kefta spouting out that we were just helpless dupes easily hoodwinked by white men you don't want to think that could possibly be your ancestors.

I get it.

 

[gene cisco]

The truth is bad, but his story is even worse.

We were "deceived" for hundreds of years? So we were just weak, powerless imbeciles who folded at the sight of a few guns.

He makes the cacs seem like magical beings while downplaying the sellers. It's sad, but it's a twisted version of history I've seen repeated time and time again. Folks just so scared cacs going to speak on the sellers. That's why they try to make the sellers seem like victims too.

 

[Nzinga]

Nothing is more anti-Afrikan and xenophobic than slavery that still exists in parts of the continent today. Not coming clean about its role in our oppression and rectifying trust with tangibles and access is the main reason Afrika is still carved up and exploited to this day. UK still running shit...

What is UK running...I do not understand this nonsense. IF someone you know in Africa sold you please take up the issue. I am 100% black African and I did not sell any of you and I do not owe any o f you anything

 

[Nzinga]

nah I aint lettin no africans off the hook....I just know you dealin with various tribes that do that to each other all the time...
there is no continent loyalty in africa.... and that was easily manipulated...

but look you are right this is your thread and we can save that discussion for another time...

just remember aint it a coincidence the same amount of moors expelled from spain, is the exact same amount of the numbers they give us for the "african slave trade"

but whats your angle are you saying Africans had more to do with the kidnapping and enslavement of the goddish american moors, than europeans do...

I dont want to even really get into it.. because the truth might be too much for even my militant bruhs to take..

so Im just gonna sit this one out and listen... let me get this vegan gyro tho..

I am not on any fucking hook. I owe nothing

 

[exiledking]

You bring up a good point. Even Dr. John Henrik Clarke talked about how tribalism left us vulnerable to be invaded by whites. We was already warring with each other when the white folk pulled up, thats how they was able to get up in there initially...

Not to mention they used our women against us. The Portuguese sailors (Lancados) had a strategy and it worked, they would often marry the west African women and impregnate them....The mixed children were white enough to mingle on the ships with their white dads, but they were black enough to mingle in the villages with their mom side of the family......The bastard children of the Portuguese played a role in brokering those deals and bringing them slaves back to their white dads.

This is a touchy subject, but historically, the Luso-African (Portuguese mulatto) was not too far removed from their white fathers, in terms of how they treated Africans.....In fact you still see it today among many Cape Verdeans and their view towards darker skinned Africans.

There was no US at that time, just as there really isn’t now. Not really a THEY either. Portuguese, Dutch, English, Spanish, danish, all fought each other and took over each other’s ports , islands, colonies. THEY didn’t use OUR women against US. We attempt to apply the modern construct of Black and White to 13-18 century situations. Some Portuguese guy fucking a local Wolof girl wasn’t some grand scheme to have kids who would sell slaves in 20 years. That’s a result of her and him being horny. Now we reconstruct it backwards as some ingenious plot lol.

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

Hey, I'm not mad at you for being deeply ashamed and denying your West African roots.

When you hear stories like @kefta spouting out that we were just helpless dupes easily hoodwinked by white men you don't want to think that could possibly be your ancestors.

I get it.

what the fuck are you talkin about?? mr 1001 screen names....

Name one fuckin african that calls himself african on his continent...???

they are ON the fuckin continent and dont even call themselves that shit till they get here...

they say where they are from.. Ghanian, Nigerian, and from what tribe.. they never call themselves african...

and west africa.. you do know that just were the enslaved left to head to western shores riiiight, they couldve came from anywhere..

you fuckin fag.... I already shown we are the ancient berbers.. yall just playing really really fuckin stupid!!!

 

[FJP]

So in short because Africans had slaves in Africa white supremacy should bear no burden.

 

[exiledking]

So in short because Africans had slaves in Africa white supremacy should bear no burden.

Sure if that’s what you take from it. It’s the truth. If that’s your end result once you accept the truth , I can see why you would want to deny it. Because then, who can you blame now? I get where you’re going. Hold on to whatever makes ya feel good bro.

 

[exiledking]

nah these cacs got their asses kicked left and fuckin right... they had to bring in jamaican buffalo soldiers to help them fight their battles.. it wasnt no gotdam mongolian indians or fake cracker five dollar indians.

its was the blackamoors those buffalo soldiers were fighting.. and to top it off, they had to flood the places with euro cacs from various nations...

like I said these fools just repeating cracker revisionist shit..

and some of them KNOW IT.....and do it willingly

Tell us the name of ONE famous Blackamoor general, or leader of some kind. You seem to know so much about em. Surely you know the name of ONE

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

these coon agents done lost their fuckin minds....

 

[largebillsonlyplease]

Lot of dumb shit up in here.

If you don't start with the CONCEPT AND CONTEXT OF SLAVERY BEING INFINITELY DIFFERENT BETWEEN AFRICAN PEOPLE AND NON AFRICAN PEOPLE THEN YOU CAN'T EVEN HONESTLY DISCUSS THIS FUCKING TOPIC

 

[FJP]

Sure if that’s what you take from it. It’s the truth. If that’s your end result once you accept the truth , I can see why you would want to deny it. Because then, who can you blame now? I get where you’re going. Hold on to whatever makes ya feel good bro.

Simply asked a question. Not denying anything it’s well documented that Africans had slaves. It’s well documented that there were black people here that had slaves.

but what’s also documented is that in this very country white people have deliberately and intentionally developed a system that has undoubtedly favored whites while having a direct mission to disenfranchise, disempower, and oppress black people.

 

[exiledking]

Simply asked a question. Not denying anything it’s well documented that Africans had slaves. It’s well documented that there were black people here that had slaves.

but what’s also documented is that in this very country white people have deliberately and intentionally developed a system that has undoubtedly favored whites while having a direct mission to disenfranchise, disempower, and oppress black people.

You asked a loaded question leading with a statement that NOBODY said, implying that discussing that truth, must lead to that result. So again I say, if THATS what you deduce after accepting that one truth, that’s on you playa.

 

[exiledking]

Lot of dumb shit up in here.

If you don't start with the CONCEPT AND CONTEXT OF SLAVERY BEING INFINITELY DIFFERENT BETWEEN AFRICAN PEOPLE AND NON AFRICAN PEOPLE THEN YOU CAN'T EVEN HONESTLY DISCUSS THIS FUCKING TOPIC

It wasn’t. We covered that already. You’re just late to the party and decided to come in with that same ol tired refrain. Slavery is slavery. There’s no nice form of slavery. Anyone who is attempting to define any slavery as nicer than another is just being dishonest.

 

[hardawayz16]

I already shown we are the ancient berbers.. yall just playing really really fuckin stupid!!!

Like I said before. I get it. Pretending to be a descendant of middle eastern berbers is much more appealing than being the descendant of some poor primitive West African who was lead by breadcrumbs to slave ships by the millions for hundreds of years.

 

[xfactor]

Who came to that fallacious conclusion?

So in short because Africans had slaves in Africa white supremacy should bear no burden.

 

[exiledking]

Who came to that fallacious conclusion?

Lol he did.

 

[gw1933]

There was no US at that time, just as there really isn’t now. Not really a THEY either. Portuguese, Dutch, English, Spanish, danish, all fought each other and took over each other’s ports , islands, colonies. THEY didn’t use OUR women against US. We attempt to apply the modern construct of Black and White to 13-18 century situations. Some Portuguese guy fucking a local Wolof girl wasn’t some grand scheme to have kids who would sell slaves in 20 years. That’s a result of her and him being horny. Now we reconstruct it backwards as some ingenious plot lol.

If that's the result of him being horny then whats the result of his mixed son carrying out his agenda against Africans?....I'll wait.

 

[hardawayz16]

If that's the result of him being horny then whats the result of his mixed son carrying out his agenda against Africans?....I'll wait.

Self interest?

 

[gw1933]

Self interest?

You have some more learning to do. There's a great piece of literature I recommend.

 

[Joe Money]

Don’t know about the discussion related to the others but the bolded comment is incorrect.

What’s incorrect about it? If we’re not descended from West and Central Africans, then who are we descended from?

There was no US at that time, just as there really isn’t now. Not really a THEY either. Portuguese, Dutch, English, Spanish, danish, all fought each other and took over each other’s ports , islands, colonies. THEY didn’t use OUR women against US. We attempt to apply the modern construct of Black and White to 13-18 century situations. Some Portuguese guy fucking a local Wolof girl wasn’t some grand scheme to have kids who would sell slaves in 20 years. That’s a result of her and him being horny. Now we reconstruct it backwards as some ingenious plot lol.

Her being “horny” or her getting raped or taken as a concubine?

Tell us the name of ONE famous Blackamoor general, or leader of some kind. You seem to know so much about em. Surely you know the name of ONE

You won’t get a factual answer. He’ll say Hannibal or some other dumb shit, even though Carthage predates the Moorish civilization by a thousand years or so. You’ll point that out and will then get called a “cac” or an “agent”. I guarantee you that this nigga

Like I said before. I get it. Pretending to be a descendant of middle eastern berbers is much more appealing than being the descendant of some poor primitive West African who was lead by breadcrumbs to slave ships by the millions for hundreds of years.

Exactly!

 

[hardawayz16]

You have some more learning to do. There's a great piece of literature I recommend.

I'm wary of any book recommendations in this thread after @kefta tried to pass a fiction novel off as factual historical text.

 

[xfactor]

Most of the so-called “African slaves” are Native American prisoners of war. These copper colored aboriginals were native to this land and not shipped from Africa. If anything they were west Asiatic/European in origin, which is also were the so-called black man and woman have origins (Despite the narrative that whites dominate its history)

Like I said before. I get it. Pretending to be a descendant of middle eastern berbers is much more appealing than being the descendant of some poor primitive West African who was lead by breadcrumbs to slave ships by the millions for hundreds of years.

 

[exiledking]

Her being “horny” or her getting raped or taken as a concubine?






Exactly!

This isn't America. The Africans.were the dominant group. Any woman or women who came to them.did so by choice-- or also.sood as a sex slave by the other men. Either way, this was a whole couple hundred years ago , so interpreting it through 20th century lens is futile

 

[exiledking]

You have some more learning to do. There's a great piece of literature I recommend.

Who is chancellor Williams and what are his sources ?

 

[hardawayz16]

Most of the so-called “African slaves” are Native American prisoners of war. These copper colored aboriginals were native to this land and not shipped from Africa. If anything they were west Asiatic/European in origin, which is also were the so-called black man and woman have origins (Despite the narrative that whites dominate its history)

*sigh*

Speaking for my ADOS self - I share the same physical features as many modern Ghanaian/Nigerians, as do the majority of other black folks I know.

Maybe you live among millions of copper colored, straight hair slave descendants

 

[xfactor]

*sigh*

Speaking for my ADOS self - I share the same physical features as many modern Ghanaian/Nigerians, as do the majority of other black folks I know.

Maybe you live among millions of copper colored, straight hair slave descendants

So-called blacks also originate from “Africa”, “North America”, “South America”, “Australia” and “Europe” so that would not be a far fetched claim. All I’m saying is that the narrative that the so-called black man and woman all came to this land on a slave ship from Africa is the biggest lie told in modern history.