hold on...
I think some people are confused here...
the ORIGINAL song and lyrics were written by Chapman...
then latter covered in a dance-hall reggae track by Foxy Brown (NOT the rapper)
Chapman supposed to get her money REGARDLESS
Can you post a picture where she doesn't look rough?
She's looked rough for over thirty years at this point so it isn't as if it will jump out at you.
Tracy Chapman's looks are that drunk uncle or annoying cousin that always shows his ass at the family picnic that everybody knows to ignore since your used to it.
Nicki's team is dumb or greedy - Nicki should have just covered the song (bypasses any clearance) - add Nas' bars - remix the track that Steely & Clevie produced - with fresh mix and master on that bassline -this would have been the song of the summerthis is MIND BOGGLING.
and with the MACHINE behind Nicki, why did they think they could just DO this?
was the song THAT good?
They were just willing to pay no matter what?
(these labels STILL got THAT kinda money?)
But to me if I was on the JURY...I would want her to get ALL the money.
Why?
Cause Chapman said NO...point blank period.
Nicki tried to BULLY her and shame her using social media tactics...
and because Chapman is old school and NOT on social media
Nicki thought she could pressure her (and her team)
Very happy to see that Chapman stood up.
Hope she gets ALL THE MONEY.
she is getting her publishing and sync automatic - have been since the 80s, even on these leaks - the smoking gun on this if the label registered the leaked uncleared record with a PROhold on...
I think some people are confused here...
the ORIGINAL song and lyrics were written by Chapman...
then latter covered in a dance-hall reggae track by Foxy Brown (NOT the rapper)
Chapman supposed to get her money REGARDLESS
copyright doesn't work the way you imagine - Chapman and her label has the right to prevent anyone from modifying or distributing any version of her compositions and or original work - thats why artists and DJs get in trouble with mixtapes free promo charity or for profit - all the same shit under copyrightY'all dudes is bugging. If nicki ain't made no money from the song (it's not on the album) what is she using for? That's like ANY artist suing a rapper for sampling and putting it on a mixtape. You guys hate for Nikki sure is blinding your judgment. AND no I'm not a nikki fan at all
there was never a lawsuit because no clearance needed in that case because those were covers, not samples. Chapman was covered by a lot of artists around the world shit even Babyface covered a few of her songsOhhhhhh??? Who then did Chapman sue the other chick. Foxy Brown?
This shit is more confusing than the Kennedy Assassination.
Niggas never learn. 2 well documented examples of sampling gone bad and folks are still sloppy.
YOU should know betterMs Thunder version use to ring off crazy.. that was dub at its finest
I hope He wins
Nicki's team is dumb or greedy - Nicki should have just covered the song (bypasses any clearance) - add Nas' bars - remix the track that Steely & Clevie produced - with fresh mix and master on that bassline -this would have been the song of the summer
Naw..she always looked fucked up so it’s normal.So....nobody noticed Tracy looking rough huh? Ok
There's no profit from the song if it wasn't released. You can't just sue because the shit got played in public.
There's no profit from the song if it wasn't released. You can't just sue because the shit got played in public.
1. the record wasn't "just played in public"... -Naw..she always looked fucked up so it’s normal.
Bingo..her dumb ass is going to end up paying Barbie’s and her own lawyer fees (she will go broke) unless her attorneys can prove that Nicki or her team personally leaked that record. Which will be damn near impossible. Dumb emotional dyke.
Shut up.1. the record wasn't "just played in public"... -
2. any way you try to frame it -you are both very wrong - copyright infringement has nothing to do with sales - trying to sell it only increases the amount of damages that will be sought
If it was a label employee that put this out NIcki's team should also sue the label to make sure the label absorbs all penalties without trying to recoup from Nicki
Shut up.
She will lose
A LITTLE?So....nobody noticed Tracy looking rough huh? Ok
NOPE !! what is "ruff" to you ? Tracy Chapman is a beautiful woman in my estimation, skin flawless glows, smile dimples and whitest teeth! sweetest demure personality, noteveryone cup of tea but i think shes beautiful, shes gotta be about 55years old nowA LITTLE?
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Tracy’s song is a sample or interpolation itself. So how ironic this mother skunt is suing over owning some shit she stole. Wtf!!!!
I hear ya...........I guess.NOPE !! what is "ruff" to you ? Tracy Chapman is a beautiful woman in my estimation, skin flawless glows, smile dimples and whitest teeth! sweetest demure personality, noteveryone cup of tea but i think shes beautiful, shes gotta be about 55years old now
Niggas never learn. 2 well documented examples of sampling gone bad and folks are still sloppy.
Record company will give Tracy some shut the fuck up money, artist cant be original anymore
there is no differenceDiff cases
They released the song on albums
Nikki didnt
Niki fucked that shit up! Hot Garbage!Nicki's version is garbage too! I hope Tracy bankrupts her.
Nicki's version is garbage too! I hope Tracy bankrupts her.
There is no *IF* question about copyright infringement - there is a paper trail of requests and denials. And the track "leaked" as a way to promote Nicki concurrent to the new album release, so Tracy will definitely get awarded damages whether or not the infringed track was for monetary "sale".
The bigger question is to how much punitive damage may be awarded/negotiated to deter future "leaks" when a copyright holder's rights and wishes are ignored. For the BGOL youngsters, here 's a history lesson that Nicki and her "people" apparently forgot...
Biz Markie gets the copyright smackdown
http://www.ethanhein.com/wp/2009/biz-markie-gets-the-copyright-smackdown/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Upright_Music,_Ltd._v._Warner_Bros._Records_Inc.
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Shelly Thunder never recorded Sorry. It is a Foxy Brown (not the rapper) chune "Baby Can I Hold You Tonight". She also recorded another Chapman song "Fast Car"...
We didn't bring up Neil Diamond was the true owner of the song? Or is Tracy's stance was because of the composition?Nicki’s argument is that Chapman doesn’t even own the copyright to the song, hence the record is up for fair use.
We didn't bring up Neil Diamond was the true owner of the song? Or is Tracy's stance was because of the composition?
We didn't bring up Neil Diamond was the true owner of the song? Or is Tracy's stance was because of the composition?
the copyright in question is the copyright of the recording of Chapman's cover -good question