Dyson is a coon for the liberal establishment.
Michael Eric Dyson: "Jay-Z didn’t sell out by dealing with the NFL. This is how activism works."
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Yes she did and you should take note especially about "knowing who our enemies are". Getting to be way too many infiltrating cacs on this Board. Fuckers don't even pay the full freight, they just "register".
that's fair but I also think we should at LEAST give him a minute...
cause we let cacs move with impunity without checking them at the door when we KNOW they up to no good.
He got till the end of the season with me.
Yes she did and you should take note especially about "knowing who our enemies are". Getting to be way too many infiltrating cacs on this Board. Fuckers don't even pay the full freight, they just "register".
Truth!!!
"Bring'em out! Bring'em out!!!"
That’s reasonable.
Serious question: what moves do you think he can/will make that will give you some indication that this partnership with the NFL isn’t strictly a selfish act?
I'm usually down with Eric, but not on this one. Can't explain away Jay-Z making a deal with the devil simply as "activism". Dyson's stock just dropped a couple of points with me.
I've changed my mind. Dyson's stock with me has gone down more than a couple of points. I just heard him on Undisputed dissin' Malcolm X for calling MLK an Uncle Tom. Malcolm was right, King at the time calling for "turn the other cheek" and "love those who hate you" was Tommin'. Moreover Dyson is pushing a book he just wrote about Jay-Z with his blessing, so book sales just might have something to do with his over-the-top laudatory comments about Z.
On top of that Bitch Bayless chimed in to Dyson, "Do you think Eric Reed, Colin Kaepernick, and and Kenny Still will ever mature to eventually step back and see Jay-Z' s bigger picture? And the poverty pimp says I hope so. Imagine that, cac says they're immature and he agrees with them? Lastly Dyson said absolutely nothing about the lack of specifics regarding the NFL's and
Jay-Z' supposed future goals regarding social ills plaguing the black community. The meeting between Jay-Z and Goodell was all about entertainment ventures which equates to "we gonna make a lot of money".
Look I don't have a problem with Jay-Z making money but in my opinion he should not have gotten in bed with the NFL until they stopped preventing Kap from making a living in his chosen profession for doing nothing more than protesting police brutality and the shooting of unarmed black men by white police. Dyson says "what does it matter what road we take if we wind up in the same place"? I say it matters a great deal if along that road you are required to compromise your principles. Long winded comment I know, but I just had to vent.
I've changed my mind. Dyson's stock with me has gone down more than a couple of points. I just heard him on Undisputed dissin' Malcolm X for calling MLK an Uncle Tom. Malcolm was right, King at the time calling for "turn the other cheek" and "love those who hate you" was Tommin'. Moreover Dyson is pushing a book he just wrote about Jay-Z with his blessing, so book sales just might have something to do with his over-the-top laudatory comments about Z.
On top of that Bitch Bayless chimed in to Dyson, "Do you think Eric Reed, Colin Kaepernick, and and Kenny Still will ever mature to eventually step back and see Jay-Z' s bigger picture? And the poverty pimp says I hope so. Imagine that, cac says they're immature and he agrees with them? Lastly Dyson said absolutely nothing about the lack of specifics regarding the NFL's and
Jay-Z' supposed future goals regarding social ills plaguing the black community. The meeting between Jay-Z and Goodell was all about entertainment ventures which equates to "we gonna make a lot of money".
Look I don't have a problem with Jay-Z making money but in my opinion he should not have gotten in bed with the NFL until they stopped preventing Kap from making a living in his chosen profession for doing nothing more than protesting police brutality and the shooting of unarmed black men by white police. Dyson says "what does it matter what road we take if we wind up in the same place"? I say it matters a great deal if along that road you are required to compromise your principles. Long winded comment I know, but I just had to vent.
Thanks for the heads up...
Undisputed is such a terrible show and it's no surprise this was a terrible interview.
Shannon Sharpe: *Summarizes a paragraph from the article* Isn't that right?
Shannon Sharpe: *Summarizes a paragraph from the article* ?
I didn't find MED's Malcolm X commentary to be significantly different from what he wrote-- the North/South bit was overly dismissive-- but he did co-sign Bayless dissing Eric Reed and Co. as immature.
The fact that he has this book coming out doesn't necessarily discredit his commentary but he's clearly a sychophant. That rhyme reciting was tough to watch. My biggest issue with his presentation is the way he makes Jay-Z the Biggie Biter out to have been like Common, Nas or Tupac, like substance had anything to do with his success. Jay-Z has done some fine charity work but he's putting make-up on a pig when he talks about his sterling twenty year record of social commentary.
I hear and agree with what your are saying.
But this should be simple for the NFL, remove the unofficial whiteballing of Kaep, and let him compete for a position. Every week that goes by makes it less likely that will happen.
That is the only step that will get the “healing “ started. The ignoring of the league is the only response to their capricious response to a player speaking out against police brutality (not social justice). JayZ engagement weakens the response. Especially when no players are involved with him.
Dyson is wack for this one. Absolving Jay Z for helping to mask injustic for future "possible" improvements is slimy as fuck. Calling Reid (or cosigning it in Undisputed) immature...man he can miss me with that sonning shit. This is the PR, marketing bullshit that white folks do to us all the damn time.
I have bought Dyson books, and I sure as hell have supported Jay Z for decades (cd, vinyl, shows and me be ing pro Tidal), but this is ho shit, make Black folks feel good while we hurt a few behind closed doors shit.
and oh yeah KC just signed Matt Moore off the retirement block, who has not played in a game since 2017
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As Jay Z we are moving on from kneeling. Fuck what he is talking about
I have bought Dyson books, and I sure as hell have supported Jay Z for decades (cd, vinyl, shows and me be ing pro Tidal), but this is ho shit, make Black folks feel good while we hurt a few behind closed doors shit.
and oh yeah KC just signed Matt Moore off the retirement block, who has not played in a game since 2017
.As Jay Z we are moving on from kneeling. Fuck what he is talking about
Can you expound on this a bit further? Cause I haven't really seen any Jay-Z support on this board in a very long time.
Every time he drops another average album or another average verse, shit pops up on the board like its gold or some unheard/unknown wisdom.
Apparently, he is hero or messiah to a lotta cats.
People defend him like they defend Lebron's shit.
I see. I remember 4:44 being ripped to shreds by this very board though. To me, it seems that for every 2-3 defenders, there will always be 10-12 haters behind them that dislike anything the man does.
Im not watching that video because I already know what he's going to say..
This is the same dude that said straight black men has privilege in this country.
This is the same dude that always caping for other groups and then try to say their issues is the same as ours...
This is the same dude that says anyone that has a problem with Kamala Harris dont know what they're talking about.
This is the same dude that will defend his boy Bill Maher,after Maher says something racist towards us.
And,him trying to be hip is annoying ass fuck....
This is the same dude that said straight black men has privilege in this country.
This is the same dude that always caping for other groups and then try to say their issues is the same as ours...
This is the same dude that says anyone that has a problem with Kamala Harris dont know what they're talking about.
This is the same dude that will defend his boy Bill Maher,after Maher says something racist towards us.
And,him trying to be hip is annoying ass fuck....
Agreed. Hell I'll give him 3 seasons.
One to get established
One to get mobilized.
Year three better be implementation of his action plan.
I have no problem with the cat making a buck or two but his 'good works' initiative better be for more than the 'good work' he plan to do towards his financial portfolio.
*two cents*
Bruh this shit is getting out of hand, I personally didn't like the way Jay went about it but Dyson article makes some very valid points. For people to call Hov a sellout and coon is just ridiculous. Dude was an advocate for black folks way before Kaepernik took a knee.
I swear we always fighting from within, it's more ways than one to deal with social injustices. Same shit happen with Dr. King and Malcolm X.
He makes Jay-Z sound like Chuck D. I'm done with this cat.
He ain't advocate shit.
No? I'm just going off what I remember, but this very board ripped that album to pieces saying, "Hov is past it..", "It's whack..." etc etc.
Alotta the vitriol I see from this board in particular, you'd think Jay snatched a meal off their dinner table and owes them more than he's already given.
The facts say otherwise!
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My sentiments exactly. It is what it is.
Magna Carta?.... yeah - kinda
4:44 was celebrated especially The Story of OJ video & song
Man stop it, with trying to rehash and remake history. We dont need a messiah, cause neither Kaepernick or Jay Z are perfect. But you ain't gotta wash Jay Z balls when he is doing funky shit.
What the hell has Jay Z personally sacrificed for Black people, akin to what Kaepernick has done.
Jay won, Kaepernick lost, but dont try and make the nuance clean and tidy. Jay is dirty in this move.
Oh yeah 4:44 is a classic, to go with Reasonable Doubt, Vol. 2, Blueprint, American Gangster, and the Black Album.
Book sales must be low.
Book hasn't been released yet. But yeah his viewpoint is probably skewed a bit.
I remember TSoOJ being celebrated, but not the rest of it. The Moonlight track with the Fugees sample.. “the audacity.. who does he think he is?”
But that’s merely one example. Most the time, he gets shitted on something fierce around here and it’s nothing new.
People been waiting for Hov to slip up and now they feel they have their out to vent.
I really think you are confusing this board with another
only the hiphop ignorant or VERY young would beef over J using a Fugee sample
4:44 as an album got a very solid welcome here
over the last 2 years:
when Meek got locked up
when Meek got out...
when Meek moved Dreamchasers to Roc
when the Trayvon doc was announced
when it dropped
when Jay turned down doing the Superbowl
when Jay defended Kap n other players in various ways
when ApeShit dropped
+ the video
when 21 Savage got help vs ICE
I can keep going...
but at every one of those events Hov got a lot of love on this board
and the next time he does good - Im sure he'll get universal love again
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I really think you are confusing this board with another
only the hiphop ignorant or VERY young would beef over J using a Fugee sample
4:44 as an album got a very solid welcome here
over the last 2 years:
when Meek got locked up
when Meek got out...
when Meek moved Dreamchasers to Roc
when the Trayvon doc was announced
when it dropped
when Jay turned down doing the Superbowl
when Jay defended Kap n other players in various ways
when ApeShit dropped
+ the video
when 21 Savage got help vs ICE
I can keep going...
but at every one of those events Hov got a lot of love on this board
and the next time he does good - Im sure he'll get universal love again
Ummm.. lol.. this board is littered with both of those.
I can say that the heads and those who know have shown love, but maybe I’m remembering the rise of 15 day users, the unregistered and the young who’ve shat on dude for not giving more.
I’ll keep an eye on it but folks love to hate a man that’s giving you his all.
I know I said I wasn't going to watch this but for Michael Eric Dyson to say Malcolm X was a Monday morning quarterback is very disrespectful and asinine to me...
On this one, I have to agree with dame dash....until the details of the agreement and deal are known all the outrage is at best premature... people are mad because the OPTICS of shit but they don't know the SUBSTANCE...
Also, people need to understand that Kaepernick lost his career and that was the price he had to pay for taking a stand. The true litmus test for knowing if what your standing up for and disrupting the system (whatever it is) is REAL is by the reaction. If you take a stand the reaction is nothing then you have to question if what your issue is even a real thing...BUT if you take a stand and the reaction is to destroy you in some way (jailing, character assassination, violence upon you) then you know it's real and it hurts.
MLK is dead
Malcolm X is dead
Medgar Evers is dead
Schwerner, Goodman, and Cheney are dead.
They all took a stand in something and the price (repercussion, consequence) for doing that was death. Relatively speaking taking into consideration that Kap still has 7 figure endorsements and a million dollar settlement from the NFL...losing his career as a quarterback is getting off light by comparison. So if Kap doesn't ever play again then that's the price he paid for the stand he took.
Also, people need to understand that Kaepernick lost his career and that was the price he had to pay for taking a stand. The true litmus test for knowing if what your standing up for and disrupting the system (whatever it is) is REAL is by the reaction. If you take a stand the reaction is nothing then you have to question if what your issue is even a real thing...BUT if you take a stand and the reaction is to destroy you in some way (jailing, character assassination, violence upon you) then you know it's real and it hurts.
MLK is dead
Malcolm X is dead
Medgar Evers is dead
Schwerner, Goodman, and Cheney are dead.
They all took a stand in something and the price (repercussion, consequence) for doing that was death. Relatively speaking taking into consideration that Kap still has 7 figure endorsements and a million dollar settlement from the NFL...losing his career as a quarterback is getting off light by comparison. So if Kap doesn't ever play again then that's the price he paid for the stand he took.
I didn't listen but please tell me you misheard that.I know I said I wasn't going to watch this but for Michael Eric Dyson to say Malcolm X was a Monday morning quarterback is very disrespectful and asinine to me...
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