A collection of #ADOS Tweets from @KingTahara that no one cares about

This is where your whole plan fails. Republicans are working to put in place things that will block your agenda 100% for 40 years no matter when you decide to get off your asses and do s0mething.

you let Trump get 4 more years. the supreme court will be 7-3 conservative AT LEAST and even if you get everything you want, have the entire house, senate, and president vote for reparations, the supreme court will say "lol no. now go sit your ass down an go back to sleep"

and not even just the supreme court. trump is packing all of the courts with young right wing judges with life time appoinments.

so you are basically checkmating yourself.

now Queen T will probably respond to my post with some shit I won't read. I haven't read any response of his in weeks.

I'm just trying to wrap my head around how we get stated goal: getting reparations, which from what I see requires political action, without participating in the political process. I know they think I'm being snarky, but I promise I'm not. I'm seriously dumbfounded.

On the one hand they are saying let immigrants and others hold their own nuts and see to the needs of their own group, while at the same time WE want something and are expecting to get it by, well I don't know how. Which has been my entire issue. What is the incentive for them to support us and not tell us to hold our own nuts? Why shouldn't we be told to see to our own group? I mean the GOP has been saying that for years. Mitch McConnell said Obama was our reparations, yet he is not seen as an object to be targeted and removed from office. I don't get it. I really want to take this seriously, but the logic escapes me. It's like the stated goal is not the goal, it's the premise for a bunch of nonsense. Action is the foundational key to all success, but the only action I see is inaction - threatening not to participate. I just don't see how that's an action plan.
 
I'm just trying to wrap my head around how we get stated goal: getting reparations, which from what I see requires political action, without participating in the political process. I know they think I'm being snarky, but I promise I'm not. I'm seriously dumbfounded.

On the one hand they are saying let immigrants and others hold their own nuts and see to the needs of their own group, while at the same time WE want something and are expecting to get it by, well I don't know how. Which has been my entire issue. What is the incentive for them to support us and not tell us to hold our own nuts? Why shouldn't we be told to see to our own group? I mean the GOP has been saying that for years. Mitch McConnell said Obama was our reparations, yet he is not seen as an object to be targeted and removed from. I don't get it. I really want to take this seriously, but the logic escapes me. It's like the stated goal is not the goal, it's the premise for a bunch of nonsense. Action is the foundational key to all of us success, but the only action I see is inaction - threatening not to participate. I just don't see how that's an action plan.

Their goal actually isn't reparations. It's to be anti Dem and to have a grievance issue to advance their own sense of self importance and wokeness. If the goal was actually to bring about reparations, no one would ever say they're ok with allowing Republicans to put safeguards in place to make sure it would be overturned if it ever happened.

and they would be working to put people in place that might actually make it happen. they would be working on building a larger coalition instead of making sure they are the smallest voting group they possibly can.

and you're right. their stance is, we don't give a fuck about or support any other group besides our own, but we demand every other group support us.

like I said, these guys aren't serious. you're wasting your time, intelligence, and empathy engaging with them. eject!
 
Ok so a few questions: are we able to get reparations without legislation being passed? If so how?

If not, say ADOS sits out the election, votes GOP or whatever, dems lose and the GOP maintains power. BGOL ADOS have already said lobbying the GOP is out, so does the agenda sit idly by until enough dems get power again?

Before you answer let's see if we can agree on recent history so we can theorize how this plays out.

Obama got elected and had a slim majority for about 2 years. During this time he lost his shine. Dailykos was practically a hate site against him. White liberals, mad about him not moving fast enough on LGBT and not getting their wishlist with the ACA and other issues, decided to sit out to teach him a lesson. Black folks didn't come out as he wasn't on the ballot and white racists mad about a black man in the white house showed up and showed out en masse. We lost everything state level and in Congress.

Now the GOP doesn't just sit idly by when they get a bit of power. They wanted to make black turnout ineffective for all time. While we were out of power and the voting rights act was gutted by the scotus, GOP led areas suppressed and gerrymandered to their hearts content. Dems can win 90% of the vote, and only 10% of the seats. (That's an exaggeration but the point is our voting power was greatly diminished and we have to win by an overwhelming margin just to barely stay on the playing field.) Some maps got overturned but with the scotus ruling this will happen less and less. See this link also on ways they consolidate power: https://m.dailykos.com/stories/1862658

So 8 years later we are just now picking up seats at the state level and during all this time any and all progressive agendas have stalled. All those liberals who wanted to teach Obama a lesson have been fighting tooth and nail to hold on to what he got passed and thanks to the GOP sabotage, namely Marco Rubio screwing over risk corridors, health care plan cost doubled.

So, if we do this again, and dem power is reduced further, the cycle continues. In addition we now have a open white supremacist in the WH stirring the racial resentment pot, so we have no idea how the electorate is going to pan out.

So what is the plan, to get legislation passed, from a group that gets rewarded by their base for anti black rhetoric and and passing any law that hurts us and denying anything that helps us, even if it affects them the same or worse? What makes you think candidates seeking power won't also play to the white vote and refuse to consider or discuss reparations for fear of backlash or loss of votes?

How do you get someone to write legislation, introduce it, whip the votes, get it passed and get it signed with or without dems in power?

I'm looking for actionable plans, not a wishlist and a never ending stream of complaints. Is this something we are really working for, because if not, how is this something more than just creating resentment, causing division, stroking discontent and ceding power?

If this is something we want to see in our lifetimes, can we really afford to let another 10 years pass by while anyone inclined to give you what you want is kept powerless?

If asking how something gets done is a threat, then that means there is no plan. Why should I expend any social media or personal capital I have or donate or whatever?

If I came to you and said I am going to get us a billion dollars and I would like your participation or yout time or your money, wouldn't you want to know about the plan to evaluate it? If I said I'm going to go and tell people I want it, I'm owed it and I'm going to get it and the people I'm telling aren't even the ones who can give it to me, would you still join me? A goal without a plan is just wishful thinking.

I'll tell you now, health care and other issues take priority for me over reparations. If dems get power again, I want healthcare secure first.

I've been trying to be convinced that the idea of reparations and amplifying the message is something I should put time and energy into but the loudest mouthpieces are telling me I'm too stupid to understand and have failed repeatedly to present any concrete steps. I'm practical. If y'all pull this off, I get paid anyway. All I see is the stirring up of discontent with no outlet other than to lash out at others so there is no reason for me to join in and keep myself angry and worked up for no reason.

That is Trumps playbook with his white supporters. Make them feel superior but give them a target to go after for all their woes when they feel their lives aren't shit. British actors can't get reparations for you, attacking them is a distraction. Unless you are going after a director lobbying for a film on reparations, those targets are other distractions. Anything not lobbying the lawmakers or working toward getting the ones in power who will support this is a distraction. Eyes everywhere but on the ball. There are legit advocates for reparations out there, I'm just not convinced y'all are hooked up with them.

I know and understand the attitudes Africans and immigrants have toward us and vice versa. I also understand that it has been shaped by white supremacy. We have bought into the stereotypes and white propaganda about each other. The solution isn't more distance, it's coming together to learn about each other.
and they will respond with another 20 embedded videos of of the decaying minds from the hashtag swamp
 
and they will respond with another 20 embedded videos of of the decaying minds from the hashtag swamp

Naw, I generally have a lot of respect for Va. We've had good discussions in the past.

I just think that black folks should be the moral authority on this stuff and should be able to make WS heel, but no one wants to walk in that power. They are advocating isolation and being 13% of the population all spread out, isolation is not feasible, imo. There are areas where white folks from sun up to sundown go all day without even seeing a black person, how many black folks can say the same? I don't know if that 13% stat includes "non ados" or not but still... instead of advocating and demanding from a place of power we come across as beggars in the minds of white folks and we have a chance to change the narrative and it's like I'm the only one who can see it.
 
Naw, I generally have a lot of respect for Va. We've had good discussions in the past.

I just think that black folks should be the moral authority on this stuff and should be able to make WS heel, but no one wants to walk in that power. They are advocating isolation and being 13% of the population all spread out, isolation is not feasible, imo. There are areas where white folks from sun up to sundown go all day without even seeing a black person, how many black folks can say the same? I don't know if that 13% stat includes "non ados" or not but still... instead of advocating and demanding from a place of power we come across as beggars in the minds of white folks and we have a chance to change the narrative and it's like I'm the only one who can see it.

It's been pointed out several times that this whole movement was created by white supremacist as a tool to suppress black votes. If dudes still follow it after that, there's no logic you're going to provide that will change their minds.
 
the part I quoted is the only part that really matters because if the courts are allowed to be packed for four more years, none of the other stuff in his post will come to pass in 40 years.
Well I suppose yall better earn these 30million votes then
:dunno:
Black people are tired of the neglect.
 
Well I suppose yall better earn these 30million votes then
:dunno:
Black people are tired of the neglect.

Lol most black people have never even heard of you cats. Biden is leading with black voters by a large margin. Go sit down somewhere. most of us are too smart to fall for the stuff you're falling for.
 
Their goal actually isn't reparations. It's to be anti Dem and to have a grievance issue to advance their own sense of self importance and wokeness. If the goal was actually to bring about reparations, no one would ever say they're ok with allowing Republicans to put safeguards in place to make sure it would be overturned if it ever happened.

and they would be working to put people in place that might actually make it happen. they would be working on building a larger coalition instead of making sure they are the smallest voting group they possibly can.

and you're right. their stance is, we don't give a fuck about or support any other group besides our own, but we demand every other group support us.

like I said, these guys aren't serious. you're wasting your time, intelligence, and empathy engaging with them. eject!
come again. .. a little louder please...
 
Their goal actually isn't reparations. It's to be anti Dem and to have a grievance issue to advance their own sense of self importance and wokeness. If the goal was actually to bring about reparations, no one would ever say they're ok with allowing Republicans to put safeguards in place to make sure it would be overturned if it ever happened.

and they would be working to put people in place that might actually make it happen. they would be working on building a larger coalition instead of making sure they are the smallest voting group they possibly can.

and you're right. their stance is, we don't give a fuck about or support any other group besides our own, but we demand every other group support us.

like I said, these guys aren't serious. you're wasting your time, intelligence, and empathy engaging with them. eject!

This is nonsense. We've been out to folks out to speak for us for years and the fact that nothing is changing is proof that way of thinking isn't working. What else should we do?

Stop last in income, marriage, community and everything else that matters. We still have people tsegetting us for a come up and other things.

What else should we do? Truth is we're not respected as a group of people, educated blacks get into office, nothing changes it just changes for them... not the community.

Keisha bottoms up here having drag parties in Atlanta, marilyn mosley letting cac killers off the hook, what's next? These are our educated, successful class of blacks who don't nothing once they get in there.

Republicans are racist, we know but have things changed under democratic leadership? Obama played it very safe and gave speeches instead of putting forth action, those days are gone and I'm guessing you guys are mad because if we revolt (uneducated blacks) then you don't eat (educated blacks).

I get why you guys are so anti ados. You only got power over broke black folks, your still nothing to cacs so us turning away from Democrats take good off your table, keep it real this I'd about opportunity and you ser that slipping.

Crackers don't really need y'all like that.

Kamala Harris couldn't lock up cacs like she did poor black single moms and black men so she had to show strength by targeting them, no some cac women called her out and she's hurting. It's a double edged sword man, you show authority only on poor black folks, your powerless once you leave your community so you need to dems to push for less cacs and more minorities so you can possibly eat better Y'all just looking after yourselves.

I understand completely if we pull away and trump gets 4 more years that sends a message to dems that were a unstable group, we're fringe voters.

It powers Republicans to do all types of nonsense knowing the Democrats are losing their most loyal base.

But honestly what you want folks to do?

You're right though it's not about reparations it's about getting them to know we serious and we need to be addressed, no symbolic features, no singing church helms, no more disrespect. We need what we need.

We can go on all day but no acknowledgement no plans specifically to black Americans no need to vote for politicians who see us as a come up regardless of their sort or color of skin.
 
This is nonsense. We've been out to folks out to speak for us for years and the fact that nothing is changing is proof that way of thinking isn't working. What else should we do?

Stop last in income, marriage, community and everything else that matters. We still have people tsegetting us for a come up and other things.

What else should we do? Truth is we're not respected as a group of people, educated blacks get into office, nothing changes it just changes for them... not the community.

Keisha bottoms up here having drag parties in Atlanta, marilyn mosley letting cac killers off the hook, what's next? These are our educated, successful class of blacks who don't nothing once they get in there.

Republicans are racist, we know but have things changed under democratic leadership? Obama played it very safe and gave speeches instead of putting forth action, those days are gone and I'm guessing you guys are mad because if we revolt (uneducated blacks) then you don't eat (educated blacks).

I get why you guys are so anti ados. You only got power over broke black folks, your still nothing to cacs so us turning away from Democrats take good off your table, keep it real this I'd about opportunity and you ser that slipping.

Crackers don't really need y'all like that.

Kamala Harris couldn't lock up cacs like she did poor black single moms and black men so she had to show strength by targeting them, no some cac women called her out and she's hurting. It's a double edged sword man, you show authority only on poor black folks, your powerless once you leave your community so you need to dems to push for less cacs and more minorities so you can possibly eat better Y'all just looking after yourselves.

I understand completely if we pull away and trump gets 4 more years that sends a message to dems that were a unstable group, we're fringe voters.

It powers Republicans to do all types of nonsense knowing the Democrats are losing their most loyal base.

But honestly what you want folks to do?

You're right though it's not about reparations it's about getting them to know we serious and we need to be addressed, no symbolic features, no singing church helms, no more disrespect. We need what we need.

We can go on all day but no acknowledgement no plans specifically to black Americans no need to vote for politicians who see us as a come up regardless of their sort or color of skin.

@VAiz4hustlaz you agree with all this?
 
Lol most black people have never even heard of you cats. Biden is leading with black voters by a large margin. Go sit down somewhere. most of us are too smart to fall for the stuff you're falling for.
So why yall tripping and worrying so much then.

(I'm sure all of this national talk, dem debates, lower voter turnout in '16 & 18', etc are all just aberrations and it'll be back to the status quo in 2020)
 
Got damn!!
Let me ask you Soul. No one in this thread has answered yet.

Is the goal promises from politicians or real action? If ADOS wants real action and not just promises what makeup of government do you think you need to accomplish it?

Even if ADOS had politicians and replaced every Democrat with their people nothing could be done. Republicans control the majority of government.

I don’t see this being addressed.
 
Let me ask you Soul. No one in this thread has answered yet.

Is the goal promises from politicians or real action? If ADOS wants real action and not just promises what makeup of government do you think you need to accomplish it?

Even if ADOS had politicians and replaced every Democrat with their people nothing could be done. Republicans control the majority of government.

I don’t see this being addressed.
Of course the goal is real action (tangibles son).
Sort of fucked up that Black people "gotta take over the govt." To get shit specific for us when no one else does...
We aren't scared of your scare tactics. As the bottom caste, we have nothing else they can take from us. We'll just withdraw from your political process as it does little to nothing for us as it stands anyway.
 
Of course the goal is real action (tangibles son).
Sort of fucked up that Black people "gotta take over the govt." To get shit specific for us when no one else does...
We aren't scared of your scare tactics. As the bottom caste, we have nothing else they can take from us. We'll just withdraw from your political process as it does little to nothing for us as it stands anyway.

Why do you keep saying bottom caste?

I'm not bottom of anybody. Nobody is above me.

Yall the one saying we serve whitey, yet you're the one saying the better than you.

That's some defeatist nonsense.

Who the fuck says they at the bottom, so inaction will change the circumstance?
 
Why do you keep saying bottom caste?

I'm not bottom of anybody. Nobody is above me.

Yall the one saying we serve whitey, yet you're the one saying the better than you.

That's some defeatist nonsense.

Who the fuck says they at the bottom, so inaction will change the circumstance?
Once again. This movement is lead by economists, educators, and lawyers. We aren't emotional and lead by good feelings (nor bad). Every wealth, education, and employment metric sees my people at the bottom.
Our movement seeks to solve and remedy this.

Your way isnt working. So fall back and respect the movement.
 
In 6 months ADOS FBA has....

-put reparations to ADOS in the national discussion

-exposed anti-ADOS sentiment amongst black migrants of the US

-exposed the anti-ADOS sentiment of the Democratic Party

-exposed the "women of color" and "people of color" hustles

-helped subside gender warring in the ADOS community

-advanced the HYON movement in the black community as a whole

-made the black bougosie who are usually dismissive of Dr. Umar and Brother Polight "pan afrikanism" start embracing it out of last hope desperation

-encouraged young ADOS to be more politically active

-encouraged ADOS to learn and treasure ADOS history as black migrants and CACs tend not to.

-reshined the light on Hollywoods gentleman's agreement not to cast ADOS actors as leads in stories about ADOS icons which Sam Jackson pointed out years before.

-created a pathway for ADOS to connect and build all over the country and world

Still more work to be done, the ADOS Conference is in October and the ADOS Anti-defamation League is in the works. But not a bad start to 2019. :yes:
 
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Once again. This movement is lead by economists, educators, and lawyers. We aren't emotional and lead by good feelings (nor bad). Every wealth, education, and employment metric sees my people at the bottom.
Our movement seeks to solve and remedy this.

Your way isnt working. So fall back and respect the movement.

So by withdrawing from current the political process, how are you expecting to accomplish anything?

Are you going to start your own political party? Republican, Democrat, Independent, ADOS?

What's the plan? Inaction? Division?

Since you're so smart, I'm sure you're aware a conservative Supreme Court can overturn any reparations bill that is passed right?

So allowing LIFETIME judge appointments to to courts will only hurt ADOS.

But since liberal & conservative are the same, it really doesn't matter to ADOS.
 
So by withdrawing from current the political process, how are you expecting to accomplish anything?

Are you going to start your own political party? Republican, Democrat, Independent, ADOS?

What's the plan? Inaction? Division?

Since you're so smart, I'm sure you're aware a conservative Supreme Court can overturn any reparations bill that is passed right?

So allowing LIFETIME judge appointments to to courts will only hurt ADOS.

But since liberal & conservative are the same, it really doesn't matter to ADOS.
Be prepared to be called everything under the sun.
 
Be prepared to be called everything under the sun.

They've already gone in on me.

I've been trying to get answers for a while now.

Crickets. I get tweeted at by King, or called some type of nonsensical name by Soul.

I have been told to go to the site. All of the answers I seek are there. They weren't.

I've also been told to reach out to the "leaders".

Apparently they are super accessible.

I've been fairly quiet because reaching for answers from this lot is wasted time.

I only replied because I don't like the thought of someone saying that myself and those that look like me are bottom caste of some imaginary caste system.

Yes, things for black Americans can improve. Understatement of the century I know.

But to say we are below anybody is BS. What are white people kings, and we are peasants?

And free shit supposed to put us on their level? Deserved as it may be.

That's BS. There's more of them & they have a massive headstart. But we have so many smart brothers & sisters.

That gap is closing & they are scared. Which is why trump is president.
 
So by withdrawing from current the political process, how are you expecting to accomplish anything?

Are you going to start your own political party? Republican, Democrat, Independent, ADOS?

What's the plan? Inaction? Division?

Since you're so smart, I'm sure you're aware a conservative Supreme Court can overturn any reparations bill that is passed right?

So allowing LIFETIME judge appointments to to courts will only hurt ADOS.

But since liberal & conservative are the same, it really doesn't matter to ADOS.
I responded to @Watcher last night in regards to the aforementioned scared tactics you're attempting and such. It's in this thread or search my profile
 
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