How anti-immigration policies are leading prisons to lease black convicts as field laborers

[sammyjax]

That nigga did have a post advocating for men to get ass shots.

Brought that tom fuckery to bgol

You done switched sides huh

Good luck out there son

 

[shaddyvillethug]

You done switched sides huh

Good luck out there son

Am I telling lies ?

Only fax

Anddddd ima vote Dem regardless

 

[sharkbait28]

They're leasing this labor out for some other bullshit if not this particular bullshit. The issue is incarceration rates and sentencing length, not immigration. We're conflating two issues (even though this labor is probably even cheaper than illegal immigrant labor)

Edit: Hell, the can of worms is re-opened, it'll be hard to put it back now. Farmers are probably loving this truely slave labor. At least migrants can leave when they get fed up.

I don't see how it's a conflation of issues bruh. Any expansion of the police state and private prisons has predictably awful results for us. Folks can capitulate to this agenda citing "hold your own nuts!" as much as they want... it doesn't change this reality one bit.

 

[sammyjax]

Am I telling lies ?

Only fax

Anddddd ima vote Dem regardless

You telling one right now

You all the way gone my boy

Look like you enjoying yourself though, that's what counts right?

 

[shaddyvillethug]

U know what

We can be cool no more.

Go that way bro.

 

[shaddyvillethug]

You telling one right now

You all the way gone my boy

Look like you enjoying yourself though, that's what counts right?

Man U know I gatta stir shit up

These niggas think I’m wit them.

No

I’m talking about them.

 

[sammyjax]

Man U know I gatta stir shit up

These niggas think I’m wit them.

No

I’m talking about them.

You doing so good you fucking me up

B pump gif

 

[sammyjax]

Man U know I gatta stir shit up

These niggas think I’m wit them.

No

I’m talking about them.

Shit all they points ain't eem wrong

Just without a plan it's a room full of niggas complaining and I never liked that shit. It's like hoes yapping and waiting on some nigga to come rescue them.

 

[shaddyvillethug]

Shit all they points ain't eem wrong

Just without a plan it's a room full of niggas complaining and I never liked that shit. It's like hoes yapping and waiting on some nigga to come rescue them.

Don’t save em

Dey don’t wanna be saved

 

[Dannyblueyes]

I'm starting to understand there a a bunch of black folks that suffer from a similar cognitive dissonance white folks do. Just like white folks see themselves as superior, blameless or upstanding Christians yet can support Trump and caging Christian kids, these black folks around here will call cacs destructive savages, talk about how black folks are better, have more heart etc, yet are ok with what is going on. So apparently they are just fine with "cac savagery" as long as it's not directly coming for them. We hear folks all the time, "if I were alive back during slavery, or civil rights era" or whatever period they think we dropped the ball they would have done xyz to change things. Now they sit around and say brown folks deserve it so let them be on their own. We have periods in history where parts of every other group had stood with us at one time or the other. The underground railroad had white folks helping out. Yet they want to point out individuals who have talked smack as an excuse to let atrocities happen. If black folks are morally, mentally and physically superior, the folks around her don't talk or lead like it. Right now they just seem to enjoy watching this savagery being visited upon others.

They don't seem to understand the difference between the system of white supremacy, which even some black folks can benefit from, and actual white folks who may or may not be a problem.

I'm not expecting folks to march and protest, but you'd think the very least they could do is vote to keep these monsters out of office.

I don't agree that voting makes a difference, but definitely believe in the spirit of what you just said.

IMO, if you know any illegal immigrants, and let's face it everybody does, the most patriotic thing you can do is make sure they don't get caught. Because right now there was blood on liberal and conservative hands and this problem is going to get a lot worse before it gets better.

 

[da_monumental_1]

Not trying to be insulting to anyone, but where in the article does it posit that black prisoners are the bulk of these farm workers? The overwhelming majority of the article is spent talking about the convict leasing program during the post-slavery period until its abolishment with the Ashurst-Sumners Act. But, when it gets to the present, it's all conjecture and poor examples at that. Since California is the only state mentioned in the article, I looked up the numbers for amount of people incarcerated in her prisons. There's a little over 130K people in her bowels with 26% of them being black people. That's a little under 34K black people out of the total black population in CA of 2.5 million black people. That's 1.3% of all the black people in California. Is the article trying to make the leap of logic that the bulk of that number are the majority of that 30K number shown in the article? Something doesn't smell right here.

Besides someone once said that, "The idea that we incarcerate people to have indentured servitude is one of the worst possible perceptions. I feel very strongly about that. It evokes images of chain gangs. I take it very seriously and I’m looking into exactly what needs to be done to correct it (the perception).”

I dug a little deeper. This revitalized program of using prisoners for work started in 1979 during the Carter admin with the federal Prison Industry Enhancement Certification Program (PIECP) under the passage of the Justice System Improvement Act (220-54 roll call vote in the House and 67-8 in the Senate). The composition of the Senate and the House is listed below.

Senate
58 Dems - 41 Repubs - 1 Indy

House
277 Dems - 158 Repubs

It was made indefinite in 1990 under the Bush admin.

Senate
55 Dems - 45 Repubs

House
251 Dems - 183 Repubs

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P.S. I'm going to do an Open Records request Monday morning to see if I can get the numbers or more accurate info if possible.

 

[roots69]

PLEASE tell me that I'm not the only one that saw this coming? My Criminology prof hipped me to this years ago.

No your not the only one, who saw this coming.. This corporation we live in, plans things out decades in advance!! Nothing, I mean nothing ever just happens in this world. Everything is well planned out!! The problem is, people have been conditioned not to look or overlook or not to connect the dots!! Anyway, with the current distraction agenda being pushed on the masses, this corporation is able to do just about any damn thing they want!! Right or wrong and the majority of people will never know what this corporation has done..

 

[Dannyblueyes]

Since California is the only state mentioned in the article, I looked up the numbers for amount of people incarcerated in her prisons. There's a little over 130K people in her bowels with 26% of them being black people. That's a little under 34K black people out of the total black population in CA of 2.5 million black people.

In other words. Black people make up roughly 6% of California's population, and 26% of its prisoners.

Tell me again who is act ISN'T targeting?

 

[da_monumental_1]

In other words. Black people make up roughly 6% of California's population, and 26% of its prisoners.

Tell me again who is act ISN'T targeting?

98.7% of black people in Cali aren't in prison. Miss me with the theatrics.

 

[Gods_Debris]

I don't see how it's a conflation of issues bruh. Any expansion of the police state and private prisons has predictably awful results for us. Folks can capitulate to this agenda citing "hold your own nuts!" as much as they want... it doesn't change this reality one bit.

It's not really an expansion though, they've been ramping this prison labor shit back up for more than a few years now.

https://m.ranker.com/list/companies-in-the-united-states-that-use-prison-labor/genevieve-carlton

Thats just scratching the surface (without any affection I call this the "China answer")

 

[sharkbait28]

It's not really an expansion though, they've been ramping this prison labor shit back up for more than a few years now.

https://m.ranker.com/list/companies-in-the-united-states-that-use-prison-labor/genevieve-carlton

Thats just scratching the surface (without any affection I call this the "China answer")

I think we might be talking past each other bruh. My comments weren't specific to the article OP posted and is just a broader commentary on the nexus between these kinds of policies and expansion of private prisons etc which have predictably awful results for us.

ALEC has been lobbying on behalf of private prisons for decades. So yes... private prisons have been an awful problem for much longer than this self-created border crisis and we've been the primary target (as we always have been and continue to be). Having said that, this zero-tolerance border policy has funneled a lot of money to these companies via DHS contracts since 2018 and certainly the latest 4.5bn appropriations bill that just passed is going to contribute to their expansion. These policies have predictable outcomes.