I got a feeling its going to really drop off hard, I predict 400 million at best just off of the strength of the Marvel brand.
Movie Discussion: CAPTAIN MARVEL (Spoilers) UPDATE: Sequel MARVELS has New Black female director! Feb 2023 most-watched film on any streaming
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Saw it last night and it was better than i expected. Not the best but definitely of the worst and was a pretty good origin story. question for the comic heads
Is Lawson her mom and is there any significance to her dad. It was odd to me that they kept showin him but when she was tryin to figure out her past, she tried to find Rambeu before her dad
Is Lawson her mom and is there any significance to her dad. It was odd to me that they kept showin him but when she was tryin to figure out her past, she tried to find Rambeu before her dad
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Saw it....It could've been much better.
Easily in the bottom 5 MCU movies; bottom 3, IMO. If you ever read any of the Ms. Marvel comics, its hard not to hate this movie.
I could shit on the subliminals (Skrulls = gender changers = transgenders = good) or about the outright disrespect of the source material: Mar-vell is a woman? WTF? Also, not the original Captain Marvel and has no powers! double WTF? Monica Rambeau being a child and seeing Carol as her hero? WTF! That never happened. They were friends. Complete and utter disrespect to Photon/Spectrum; and they probably think it was a nod to have Maria Rambeau's nickname as Photon. Its like they don't read their own comics.
I could speak on the stupid shit: How Fury lost his eye has to be as bad as Luke throwing his lightsaber in the ocean in The Last Jedi. Disney proves that feminist writers are not funny.
The over-the-top hero shit: yes, we know girls can do stuff, too. The long ass montage of guys hitting on her and telling her she's not good enough was doing too much. That's how you know Disney is involved. That was some straight up Disney shit in its execution.
My biggest problem is that this movie is bland and boring. Even the action sequences were generic. That is not something Marvel is known for.
I really didn't find the cat as "cute" as everyone else seemed to, either. Goose is no Rocket Raccoon. He/she/it (I don't know its pronouns
) was just a cat.
The good: Ben Mendelsohn as Talos. Even in Skrull makeup, he had more personality than damn near everyone else except Sam. The little girl who played Monica Rambeau has a future in Hollywood. She was very expressive. The spaceships were pretty cool. I'm reaching, here. I guess if you never read Ms. Marvel or don't really know who she is, I could see how this could be mistaken for a decent movie. Normies don't know how many comic book characters and story lines and arcs got shat on to make this feminist propaganda piece. Guess we're not getting that Skrull invasion story, huh? No Super-Skrull, either? Now that they have been painted as victims, its gonna be hard to sell an invasion. The real problem is how everything in this flick seems forced. Nothing flows. Even her character into the MCU seems forced.
Man, let me stop.
4/10. Fuck this movie. Glad I saw it for free.
I could shit on the subliminals (Skrulls = gender changers = transgenders = good) or about the outright disrespect of the source material: Mar-vell is a woman? WTF? Also, not the original Captain Marvel and has no powers! double WTF? Monica Rambeau being a child and seeing Carol as her hero? WTF! That never happened. They were friends. Complete and utter disrespect to Photon/Spectrum; and they probably think it was a nod to have Maria Rambeau's nickname as Photon. Its like they don't read their own comics.
I could speak on the stupid shit: How Fury lost his eye has to be as bad as Luke throwing his lightsaber in the ocean in The Last Jedi. Disney proves that feminist writers are not funny.
The over-the-top hero shit: yes, we know girls can do stuff, too. The long ass montage of guys hitting on her and telling her she's not good enough was doing too much. That's how you know Disney is involved. That was some straight up Disney shit in its execution.
My biggest problem is that this movie is bland and boring. Even the action sequences were generic. That is not something Marvel is known for.
I really didn't find the cat as "cute" as everyone else seemed to, either. Goose is no Rocket Raccoon. He/she/it (I don't know its pronouns
) was just a cat.The good: Ben Mendelsohn as Talos. Even in Skrull makeup, he had more personality than damn near everyone else except Sam. The little girl who played Monica Rambeau has a future in Hollywood. She was very expressive. The spaceships were pretty cool. I'm reaching, here. I guess if you never read Ms. Marvel or don't really know who she is, I could see how this could be mistaken for a decent movie. Normies don't know how many comic book characters and story lines and arcs got shat on to make this feminist propaganda piece. Guess we're not getting that Skrull invasion story, huh? No Super-Skrull, either? Now that they have been painted as victims, its gonna be hard to sell an invasion. The real problem is how everything in this flick seems forced. Nothing flows. Even her character into the MCU seems forced.
Man, let me stop.
4/10. Fuck this movie. Glad I saw it for free.
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My dude, the mcu is not the comics.Easily in the bottom 5 MCU movies; bottom 3, IMO. If you ever read any of the Ms. Marvel comics, its hard not to hate this movie.
I could shit on the subliminals (Skrulls = gender changers = transgenders = good) or about the outright disrespect of the source material: Mar-vell is a woman? WTF? Also, not the original Captain Marvel and has no powers! double WTF? Monica Rambeau being a child and seeing Carol as her hero? WTF! That never happened. They were friends. Complete and utter disrespect to Photon/Spectrum; and they probably think it was a nod to have Maria Rambeau's nickname as Spectrum. Its like they don't read their own comics.
I could speak on the stupid shit: How Fury lost his eye has to be as bad as Luke throwing his lightsaber in the ocean in The Last Jedi. Disney proves that feminist writers are not funny.
The over-the-top hero shit: yes, we know girls can do stuff, too. The long ass montage of guys hitting on her and telling her she's not good enough was doing too much. That's how you know Disney is involved. That was some straight up Disney shit in its execution.
My biggest problem is that this movie is bland and boring. Even the action sequences were generic. That is not something Marvel is known for.
I really didn't find the cat as "cute" as everyone else seemed to, either. Goose is no Rocket Raccoon. He/she/it (I don't know its pronouns
The good: Ben Mendelsohn as Talos. Even in Skrull makeup, he had more personality than damn near everyone else except Sam. The little girl who played Monica Rambeau has a future in Hollywood. She was very expressive. The spaceships were pretty cool. I'm reaching, here. I guess if you never read Ms. Marvel or don't really know who she is, I could see how this could be mistaken for a decent movie. Normies don't know how many comic book characters and story lines and arcs got shat on to make this feminist propaganda piece. Guess we're not getting that Skrull invasion story, huh? No Super-Skrull, either? Now that they have been painted as victims, its gonna be hard to sell an invasion. The real problem is how everything in this flick seems forced. Nothing flows. Even her character into the MCU seems forced.
Man, let me stop.
4/10. Fuck this movie. Glad I saw it for free.
That's been established years ago.
Where are you getting trannys from?
The skrulls could still be a threat because talos said there different factions all over.
The same tired ass argument: "Its not the comics"
So, you mean to tell me that keeping the origin of Peter Parker being bit by a radioactive spider is okay, Iron Man building his first suit in a cave is okay, Thor coming down from Asgard is okay, Bruce Banner being bombarded by gamma radiation and becoming the Hulk is okay but how dare I mention the drastic change of character they are introducing into the main Marvel universe? Why keep any of their origins intact if "its not the comics"? Why not change every character's story? They completely decimated Mar-vell's character for what? You mean to tell me that there is no way that they could have kept Captain Marvel's origin story closer to "as-is" as they did with most of the other Marvel characters? Why keep any continuity at all, then? Its not the comics.
The Skrulls were invaders. Their original origin was benelovent but that was thousands of years prior to what they became. The Kree-Skrull war made them warriors and invaders. By the time they came to Earth, they were already invaders. Yes, they can still do the Skrull invasion but now its tainted with the good Skrull/bad Skrull B.S. they are going to have to spin.
Uh because its their characters and they can do as they see fits the movie universe.
Just because they change a few things here and there doesn't mean they have to scrap everything. They changed Scarlett Witch and Quicksilver, worked ok.Were you also crying about Death not being with Thanos?
Pretty much every choice they have made has worked so far so I give them the benefit of the doubt.
Infinity War minus Adam Warlock is not really Infinity War, IMO.
They didn't just change a few things, they completely changed the character.
They altered The Maximoff's origin sorta sloppily but it still worked. The big mistake was killing Quicksilver, IMO. Also, they heavily de-powered Wanda in the MCU. No control over chaos magic? Can't bring her brother back to life? GTFOH. House of M is one of the better Marvel story arcs. Guess they are going to cram in some lame montage to get her power level up if they want to explore that one.
In order to take Captain Marvel in this direction, they had to:
Change Mar-vell's gender
Eliminate every feat and story arch of the original Captain Marvel
Completely re-write Monica Rambeau and turn her into a Danvers fan-girl
Introduce Captain Marvel into a fight that she was never involved in
Eliminate the existence of Ms. Marvel, which is arguably the time when Carol Danvers was most popular
So, its not "a few changes here and there"; its a complete re-tooling for what seems to be no other reason than to push an agenda and a movement. Wonder Woman didn't have to do that B.S. to be good. No movie does. Source material has always been a staple of MCU movies compared to the off-property movies. Now, its irrelevant?
You liked the movie; I didn't. Its obvious that you don't read comics or at least didn't read Ms./Captain Marvel. 4/10. Fuck this movie.
PRAISE:
Brie Larson as Vers / Carol Danvers / Captain Marvel is not as dry and distant as she was in the trailers.She actually infuses life into the character here and there in the film.
Ben Mendelsohn as the Skrull Talos was quite amusing and turns in a good performance.
Samuel L. Jackson as Nick Fury was good and had good chemistry with Larson.
There are some good moments between Larson and Lashana Lynch as Maria Rambeau and daughter Monica portrayed by Akira Akbar.
Some good mid 90's nostalgia throughout the film.
Goose the cat steals several scenes.
The SFX and action sequences were done well for the most part.
I liked that we get a further peek into the Marvel Cosmic Universe.
PROBLEMS: I felt like Jude Law and Annette Benning were sidelined for most of the movie.The movie is trying to do a lot of things.An origin story,explanation of the war between the Kree and the Skrulls,and a semi fish out of water story,which made the film drag in some spots.
I knew some SJW moments would be in the film because well look at how the film was marketed.I still felt like i was being hit over the head with it at times.
I was not on board for the changes to Marvel canon,and the twist that lead to some unintentional laughable scenes.
The film misses a few oppurtunities to be epic but it loses it's focus at times and some things are written off as a joke.I actually through my hands up and rolled at my eyes at how some things played out.
Kevin Feige wasnt lying when he said Captain Marvel would be the starting point of everything...GEEZ !!
I would say Captain Marvel is above Iron Man 3 and Thor The Dark World not great but OK.
Scale of 1-10 a 6½
SIDENOTE: I really dislike that some critics are adding to their reviews:To bad if you dont like to see women as the leads in films.
That's not a fact! People just want to see good to great movies they spend their hard earned money on!
Brie Larson as Vers / Carol Danvers / Captain Marvel is not as dry and distant as she was in the trailers.She actually infuses life into the character here and there in the film.
Ben Mendelsohn as the Skrull Talos was quite amusing and turns in a good performance.
Samuel L. Jackson as Nick Fury was good and had good chemistry with Larson.
There are some good moments between Larson and Lashana Lynch as Maria Rambeau and daughter Monica portrayed by Akira Akbar.
Some good mid 90's nostalgia throughout the film.
Goose the cat steals several scenes.
The SFX and action sequences were done well for the most part.
I liked that we get a further peek into the Marvel Cosmic Universe.
PROBLEMS: I felt like Jude Law and Annette Benning were sidelined for most of the movie.The movie is trying to do a lot of things.An origin story,explanation of the war between the Kree and the Skrulls,and a semi fish out of water story,which made the film drag in some spots.
I knew some SJW moments would be in the film because well look at how the film was marketed.I still felt like i was being hit over the head with it at times.
I was not on board for the changes to Marvel canon,and the twist that lead to some unintentional laughable scenes.
The film misses a few oppurtunities to be epic but it loses it's focus at times and some things are written off as a joke.I actually through my hands up and rolled at my eyes at how some things played out.
Kevin Feige wasnt lying when he said Captain Marvel would be the starting point of everything...GEEZ !!
I would say Captain Marvel is above Iron Man 3 and Thor The Dark World not great but OK.
Scale of 1-10 a 6½
SIDENOTE: I really dislike that some critics are adding to their reviews:To bad if you dont like to see women as the leads in films.
That's not a fact! People just want to see good to great movies they spend their hard earned money on!
Easily in the bottom 5 MCU movies; bottom 3, IMO. If you ever read any of the Ms. Marvel comics, its hard not to hate this movie.
I could shit on the subliminals (Skrulls = gender changers = transgenders = good) or about the outright disrespect of the source material: Mar-vell is a woman? WTF? Also, not the original Captain Marvel and has no powers! double WTF? Monica Rambeau being a child and seeing Carol as her hero? WTF! That never happened. They were friends. Complete and utter disrespect to Photon/Spectrum; and they probably think it was a nod to have Maria Rambeau's nickname as Photon. Its like they don't read their own comics.
I could speak on the stupid shit: How Fury lost his eye has to be as bad as Luke throwing his lightsaber in the ocean in The Last Jedi. Disney proves that feminist writers are not funny.
The over-the-top hero shit: yes, we know girls can do stuff, too. The long ass montage of guys hitting on her and telling her she's not good enough was doing too much. That's how you know Disney is involved. That was some straight up Disney shit in its execution.
My biggest problem is that this movie is bland and boring. Even the action sequences were generic. That is not something Marvel is known for.
I really didn't find the cat as "cute" as everyone else seemed to, either. Goose is no Rocket Raccoon. He/she/it (I don't know its pronouns
The good: Ben Mendelsohn as Talos. Even in Skrull makeup, he had more personality than damn near everyone else except Sam. The little girl who played Monica Rambeau has a future in Hollywood. She was very expressive. The spaceships were pretty cool. I'm reaching, here. I guess if you never read Ms. Marvel or don't really know who she is, I could see how this could be mistaken for a decent movie. Normies don't know how many comic book characters and story lines and arcs got shat on to make this feminist propaganda piece. Guess we're not getting that Skrull invasion story, huh? No Super-Skrull, either? Now that they have been painted as victims, its gonna be hard to sell an invasion. The real problem is how everything in this flick seems forced. Nothing flows. Even her character into the MCU seems forced.
Man, let me stop.
4/10. Fuck this movie. Glad I saw it for free.
1. Skrulls have always been able to turn into male or female characters. Why does it all of the sudden = tranny subliminals?
2. Super Skrull the character is still owned by Fox, so no, it couldnt have been in this movie. Best thing to do is introduce him in the new MCU Fantastic Four movies that are surely coming next.
3. Skrull Invasion can still happen.
one thing ive never understood, Marvel has different universes in the comics...616, 1610, 811, etc.
comic book heads are fine with that, but somehow cant apply that same understanding to the movies
why cant the MCU be treated as just another universe?
I think true comic fans can and do.
But for the new audience i can understand the confusion...
Especially when the comics, the novels, the aninated series, netflix, tv, movies
All follow different tracks
I think the great thing about THIS movie?
They attempted to course correct ALL the mediums i mentioned.
And did a decent job.
Seriously some of the praise and excuses this movie is getting makes me wonder if they feel the same way about BvS
I enjoyed the film.
Thought it was very well done.
Carol Danvers has always been a favorite character of mine since her "MS. MARVEL" days.
Loved the twist with Mar-Vell.
Especially since it was Annette Benning.
The other twist involving The Skrulls initially pissed me off.
A lot of US here have had at least 50 Years as seeing them as evil..
Ben Mendlesohn made it work.
The scenes with all of them at Rambeau's home were thoughtful and touching.
Jackson's and Lynch's roles were so essential in those scenes (among others)
Nice that the film has a strong Black presence.
And GOOSE!!!
BUT...
The whole "Girl Power" aspect of the film felt forced and a bit phony.
Especially Danver's mental montage. Which look like an ad for a Girl Scouts commercial. Hell. There was an movie ad for a Women's sportswear company before the film started which did the same thing. It came off like MARVEL's desperated for their own "WONDER WOMAN" moment.
Which leads me to Brie Larson. Though she wasn't as bad as I thought she was going to be, I still had a hard time taking her as Captain Marvel. At times, it was like, "LOOK AT ME! I'M A TOUGH COSMIC SUPER HERO!" Though I hate to make a comparison, Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman came off way more inherent and natural. She was BORN to play that iconic character.
Larson?
Ehh.
Maybe if she wore the infamous black "Thigh-Highs" or became Binary, my feelings would be different.
But I doubt it.
And I can't let that Fury's eye "thing" go now.
Though it was initially a bit funny.
Again...
Enjoyed it.
May see it again.
Thought it was very well done.
Carol Danvers has always been a favorite character of mine since her "MS. MARVEL" days.
Loved the twist with Mar-Vell.
Especially since it was Annette Benning.
The other twist involving The Skrulls initially pissed me off.
A lot of US here have had at least 50 Years as seeing them as evil..
Ben Mendlesohn made it work.
The scenes with all of them at Rambeau's home were thoughtful and touching.
Jackson's and Lynch's roles were so essential in those scenes (among others)
Nice that the film has a strong Black presence.
And GOOSE!!!
BUT...
The whole "Girl Power" aspect of the film felt forced and a bit phony.
Especially Danver's mental montage. Which look like an ad for a Girl Scouts commercial. Hell. There was an movie ad for a Women's sportswear company before the film started which did the same thing. It came off like MARVEL's desperated for their own "WONDER WOMAN" moment.
Which leads me to Brie Larson. Though she wasn't as bad as I thought she was going to be, I still had a hard time taking her as Captain Marvel. At times, it was like, "LOOK AT ME! I'M A TOUGH COSMIC SUPER HERO!" Though I hate to make a comparison, Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman came off way more inherent and natural. She was BORN to play that iconic character.
Larson?
Ehh.
Maybe if she wore the infamous black "Thigh-Highs" or became Binary, my feelings would be different.
But I doubt it.
And I can't let that Fury's eye "thing" go now.
Though it was initially a bit funny.
Again...
Enjoyed it.
May see it again.
They are really pushing the girl power agenda so she will most likely be the one to take out Thanos.
The execution was a little off
Captain marvel and everyone else played their characters well
Story was just lacking a little bit but it wasn't a bad movie at all
It's just hard to compete with new bars that are black panther and avengers infinity wars.
Captain marvel and everyone else played their characters well
Story was just lacking a little bit but it wasn't a bad movie at all
It's just hard to compete with new bars that are black panther and avengers infinity wars.
One thing I would like to address I know why reviews hated on this movie and it wasn't the feminism angle.
Like I said earlier this reminded me of the old marvel 2 in one comics which would pair 2 characters who you normally would never see together. IN this instance it was nick fury and captain marvel.
A black male and a white women and when they needed help who did they go to?
A black woman!!!
The late Dwayne Mcduffie Said he got flack when he took over justice league and added The black green lantern John Stewart to the line-up. With the another black JL'er on the team, in white folks minds this turned the justice league into a black comic, violating the unwritten rule of no more than 1 black superhero in a group.
The story arch of captain marvel was great IMO but there was no white savior!
2 black folks and a woman was too much for white fragility to cope with.
That's a cause for bad reviews for sure
The execution was off just a tad
And at one point they put in a Nike ad
My girl said that lol....
But the acting was really well done in this movie
It fit
Man coworker seem to think Thanos is fucked....
Saying she got the power of the space stone, which along with the others avengers they gone crush the mad titan
Dude say thor could’ve took him out, his aim was off because of the eye
I just hope she doesn't turn into Vision in Infinity War.....dude was a straight bitch!! I kept yelling the screen "you got a cotdamn infinity stone!!!! use that shit!!!!! you should be stronger than them!!!!" but dude was a straight bitch!!! Captain Marvel better bring some heat!!!
Vision had 1 stone and vs Thanos' 4
I think the Russo's will improve Captain Marvel in End Game and she'll go hard but I think Thanos is still gonna end up knocking her the fuck out
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Just seen it. It was cool, a nice intro in the marvel MCU. Wasn’t too grand at all considering everything that is going on in the MCU currently. The girl power message wasn’t overbearing like I thought it would be, it fit neatly into the story without a bunch of cheesy jokes and innuendo.
Story left much to be desired, villains were minor so the expectation of intensity were lowered. Hopefully we’ll get to really see what Captain Marvel is capable of in Avengers Endgame. But overall I think Bree Larson did good with the character.
Story left much to be desired, villains were minor so the expectation of intensity were lowered. Hopefully we’ll get to really see what Captain Marvel is capable of in Avengers Endgame. But overall I think Bree Larson did good with the character.
That’s what gonna suck about the end game. I could see them going that route too
Vision never fought Thanos, he got his ass handed to him by Thanos' henchmen, of which none of them had an Infinity Stone.......by the time Thanos got to him he was a whimpering little girl.
Thanos henchman were no joke tho lol. the stone betrayed him lol.
It was part of the plot to her origin. Figure out her memories.
Whoever her Black friend was had some ass on her tho.
