Jordan took a rookie Scottie and Horace Grant to the semi finals
Charles Oakley was the second best player
Who else did he have, Brad Sellers, Dave Corzine and Sam Vincent
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Jordan took a rookie Scottie and Horace Grant to the semi finals
Charles Oakley was the second best player
Who else did he have, Brad Sellers, Dave Corzine and Sam Vincent
He was going to the playoffs and had to content with Boston and Detroit
The great team in the east have been who......
Jordan took a rookie Scottie and Horace Grant to the semi finals
Charles Oakley was the second best player
Who else did he have, Brad Sellers, Dave Corzine and Sam Vincent
Why didnt he take Orlando Woolridge and Gene Banks the years before?
He got 2 of his coaches FIRED in 3 years behind that shit. 
Lets cry a river. Thats what happens when you suck bro and barely make the playoffs winning 30 games, you play the top seeds.
Just like every rebound aint a rebound. See ron artest game 7 v.s boston.
Basketball is a game of runs. And how we do you respond to them.
1 rebound can change the momentum of a game. Because realistically there gonna be about 6 or 7 lead changes in the avg NBA game. So if you get a defensive rebound that leads to a possesion that creates a 2 point shot that gets your team the lead......that rebound is more valuable than 3 offensive rebounds that lead to no points. LeBron makes the big plays. He knows when to step up. So looking at ppg dont mean shit.
I wish they counted stats when LeBron gains a lead.
Basketball is a game of runs. And how we do you respond to them.
1 rebound can change the momentum of a game. Because realistically there gonna be about 6 or 7 lead changes in the avg NBA game. So if you get a defensive rebound that leads to a possesion that creates a 2 point shot that gets your team the lead......that rebound is more valuable than 3 offensive rebounds that lead to no points. LeBron makes the big plays. He knows when to step up. So looking at ppg dont mean shit.
I wish they counted stats when LeBron gains a lead.
Why didnt he take Orlando Woolridge and Gene Banks the years before?
Jordan went to the playoffs every year he played with Chicago
Gene Banks
So now you're comparing a 22 year old Michael Jordan to a 33 year old Lebron
How many coaches has Lebron gotten fired?
Lets cry a river. Thats what happens when you suck bro and barely make the playoffs winning 30 games, you play the top seeds.
and break your foot
Like dont know what the game plan was.....but um trying to out score the celtics will get you sweptLets cry a river. Thats what happens when you suck bro and barely make the playoffs winning 30 games, you play the top seeds.
Imagine LeBron saying he could not get past a particular team cuz they was too great???Lets cry a river. Thats what happens when you suck bro and barely make the playoffs winning 30 games, you play the top seeds.
Anybody can go on youtube and watch the games. Jordan literally just would come down 1 on 5 and shoot and not look for his teammates. Gervin and Woolridge got them in the playoffs while MJ missed 70 games, then he freezes them out in the playoffs. High volume of shots, flashy dunks, insane usage rates, low IQ bball. Thats how you get swept by the Celtics back to back years.
It’s one thing not to like a man but you’re getting a bit ridiculous.
Its one thing to like a man and his shoes but yall have made Jordan better in retirement than when he was playing. Jordan played on enough losing teams for us to know he'd go nowhere wit this bunch.
People complain jordan couldnt get past superior celtics cuz his team was inferior(no help)
Yet lebron has inferior team and gets past pacers #1 seed raptors with coach of the year and #2 boston.
Why couldnt jordan produce these results with inferrior talent? Jordan team made the playoffs without him having a broken foot. Lebron miss a entire regular season he wont have the option of playing in the post season cuz his team would be a lottery team.
So by that measure i would hope y'all know jordan had a better supporting cast
Yet lebron has inferior team and gets past pacers #1 seed raptors with coach of the year and #2 boston.
Why couldnt jordan produce these results with inferrior talent? Jordan team made the playoffs without him having a broken foot. Lebron miss a entire regular season he wont have the option of playing in the post season cuz his team would be a lottery team.
So by that measure i would hope y'all know jordan had a better supporting cast
He didn't join that team by himself
Stop trying to rewrite history. That Miami didn't even remotely resemble the one from the year ago. They added multiple superstars to that squad. They still had to make it work and doesn't resemble that sucka shit by Durant but nigga the Heat didn't just add one player and make the leap.
With Love going down, Jordan can't become the Cavs leading rebounder. That's the part that isn't appreciated about Lebron.
When Pippen got hurt, the Bulls still won in the playoffs. But the replacing Pippen's production is easier than replacing Rodman's. Lebron gives you mad flexibility
The Fallacy in the argument is that during Jordan's Era the best players in the league played at the position of SF PF and Center. PG and SG were not the strongest position so its easy for MJ
to be considered DPOY if all he guarded we the guard positions. Lebron on any given night is defending positions PG SG SF PF as needed by the lack of defensive skill of his teammates. Unlike Jordan who had Ron Harper. Scottie Pippen and Dennis Rodman.
Look at the list of stars and it's no wonder Jordan was DPOY it was the weakest position and he was at the time the greatest player.
80s All-Stars
- C Kareem Abdul-Jabbar*^
- PF Kevin McHale*
- SF Larry Bird*
- SG Michael Jordan*
- PG Magic Johnson*
- SF Julius Erving*^
- SG Clyde Drexler*
- PG Isiah Thomas*
- C Moses Malone*
- PF Charles Barkley*^^
- C Hakeem Olajuwon*^^
- C Robert Parish*
- SF James Worthy*
- SF Dominique Wilkins*
- C Patrick Ewing*^^^
- C Hakeem Olajuwon
- PF Karl Malone*
- SF Scottie Pippen*
- SG Michael Jordan*^
- PG John Stockton*^
- C David Robinson*^
- SF Grant Hill
- SG Reggie Miller*
- PF Shawn Kemp^
- SG Mitch Richmond*^
- SG Penny Hardaway^^
- C Alonzo Mourning*^^
- PF Charles Barkley^^
- PG Gary Payton
- PG Jason Kidd^^
- PF Chris Webber^
This true but when they lost that one player and he joined the Cavs what happened. Miami is now a lottery team again and the Cavs go from #1 Lottery team to FinalsHe didn't join that team by himself
10 years from now the 80s and 90s will be written off like dudes do the 60s and 70s now. Jordan was guarding and being guarded by white boys and non athletes alot of nights. Look at 80% of his early clips.
But they also didn't just lose Lebron. They lost another superstar to a freak health issue that season.
Yup ge played in a era where you was allowed to hand check. Of course you can win that when you guarding mugsy bogus and lindsey hunter on a nightly basis
Bosh still played in over 50% of their games for the next two seasons not an excuse for becoming a lottery team.
If lebron was allowed to hand check like in mikes era 
He didn't play the second half of the season (the year Lebron left). Wade didn't finish the year either. This was literally their starting lineup to finish the season
Haslem
Dragic
Chalmers
Deng
Walker.
Looks like a fucking lottery team to me.
Exactly. He was quick to tell you he was better than whoever whenever. Now that he's nearly a forgotten a man he's on some "can't we all just get along" shit. Clown.
Dude has reached annoying clown status.
Another clown. Went from Bron needed to win to prove Kyrie wrong, to Kyrie look good either way, to Bron win ain't impressive, to Bron probably want to lose on purpose to avoid GSW again. He's all over the place.
If lebron was allowed to hand check like in mikes era
If LeBron was being guarded by white boys in half his Finals appearances.
He was a bad call away from a conference finals.
It looks like a lottery team if that's what you've started all year not when they both played into February at the all star break. The point is not whether or not Bosh made the difference it's the impact Lebron makes on a team vs the impact Jordan makes on the team. This is evident in when Lebron was drafted by perineal lottery team in Cleveland and with four years had them in the Finals once he left the first time they instantly became a lottery team again three straight number 1 picks. Next you are going to tell me because Larry Hughes and Antwan Jamison left is why they went into Lottery land.
What happened when he joined Miami four straight final appearances and when he left they just made the playoffs for the first time and got bounced. Now look at Cleveland and we all know what has happened since returning like the prodigal son despite his despise for the owner.
Now let's take a look at when Jordan left the Bulls that right 2 less wins and a call away from a trip to the ECF
What happened when he joined Washington Wizards he still was putting up numbers but we are not supposed to mention those years in his legacy because for most fans MJ only played during those final runs
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Which means he didn't make it to the conference finals. They went from a championship team to a team that won one playoff series.
How many games did Wade play in February? I know the answer.
Yes. Still a 55 win playoff team that advanced and got robbed from a finals appearance. Point being, MJ was working with alot more help than his worshipers would lead you to believe.
How do you get robbed of a finals appearance when you only WON one series???????????!
MJ played on complete teams with a great system and a fucking HOF coach.
It's like judging Brady without the context of that system and Belichick. They were fortunate.
They might not have had a bunch of big names but those were perfectly constructed squads.
Yup they erase those wizards years as if they never happend. The higher your basketball IQ is and your ability to influence a game other than just scoring the longer you will have success in the NBA see tim duncan.
Jordan still was a 20 ppg scorer and he under achieved greatly
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