0fficial 2017-2018 NBA Postseason Thread....NBA Finals Cavs vs Warriors 0-4(dubs back 2 back champs)
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Can’t agree with that GS still have way more talent than Houston and a championship pedigree..
I expect them to win however it is well known Scott Foster is biased against GS and just out right fuckery with him
Kerr not mentioning Foster by name back in 2016
https://www.mercurynews.com/2016/06...foster-a-referee-warriors-should-worry-about/
Chris Paul calling out Foster
http://www.nba.com/article/2018/01/...paul-calls-out-referee-scott-foster-after-win
NBA excludes Foster from Warriors Thunder game 7
http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/new...han-jason-phillips/1klw56ubi006j1nb2ai6zkc36k
Its real simple for me.
Coach K has won the most games in college basketball history, not the best coach ever to me.
Emmitt Smith is the all time leading rusher, not the best rb in history to me.
Floyd Mayweather retired undefeated, not the greatest boxer in history to me.
There is nothing Lebron can do, to make me believe that Lebron is the best player I have ever seen in my life. If I was much younger, I probably would be a little more excited about Lebron's game, accomplishments, and competition.
I have not heard over 10 current or past pro basketball players, coaches, or teammates say that Lebron is the best basketball to ever play the game.
Still not the same. Warriors were a championship team that had already had a 72 win season previously. Philly has talent but you still have to make it all work.
How many players said jordan was the best while he was playing?
At the end of the day Jordan still owns a NBA team*
Why jeopardize a job opportunity for simply saying lebron is better publicly?
I honestly don't think Kobe is tripping over this shit and he's fine with his place in NBA history.
Stop saying this stupid shit. it's a myth that keeps getting repeated. The Bulls without Jordan won ONE playoff series. They DID NOT make it to the conference finals. They lost in the semifinals and that's when Pippen had his meltdown about not getting his number called for the last shot.
Niggas be like "they almost made the finals without Jordan"...nigga they won one series against a bum ass squad. that's it.
This is why I don't like dudes like you.
What I said was true at the moment. Don't act like you went out on a limb by saying Lebron would be back in the NBA Finals. He's done it 8 straight times now. I never said he wasn't going to make it but moreso "They haven't made it yet". So there was nothing wrong with my statement.
He lost his best two players (on paper... Tatum >>> the white boy though) and was a quarter away from reaching the Finals. That was some great coaching. But as I said when the series hit game 4.. the Celtics had to win that game.. you can't turn it into a 3 game series when they're facing a team with championship pedigree... Lebron has been there and knows how to win those games.. Celtics out there starting multiple rookies.. dude did a hell of a coaching job
This is why I say they crowned him way too soon
You can't put him over dudes in the league who have rings, especially Pop
Boy you know how to pick and choose your arguements
Like i said before lebron would have carried that team to the finals.
LOOK: George Hill, Jeff Green soak in moment as Cavaliers celebrate
While the Cleveland Cavaliers rapped to Meek Mill, the emotions of what had just happened hit George Hill and Jeff Green hard.
In a video sent out by the Cavaliers account on Instagram, the team was having fun with “Dreams and Nightmares” while the two veterans sat by their lockers with their hands covering their mouths.
The realization of winning the Eastern Conference Finals took a toll on them as both advanced to their first NBA Finals. It’s been a long journey for Hill and Green, who have gone through struggles in their own way.
Despite starting his career with the San Antonio Spurs and being a part of the Indiana Pacers team that took LeBron James and the Miami Heat to the brink in the early 2010s, Hill has never gotten to the NBA Finals.
Hill didn’t shoot well on the road, but his defense translated to Boston in the conference finals and his aggressiveness at home as an attacker and maestro in the pick-and-roll was crucial.
With Kevin Love going down within the first five minutes of Game 6, Green stepped up to the plate and delivered when Cleveland needed him the most. He took on the defensive challenge against multiple Celtics and knocked down a number of key shots in the last two games of the series.
In Green’s career, he has played for four different teams and hasn’t gotten past the second round of the postseason. His path was much more challenging personally as well, as he dealt with a serious heart issue that caused him to miss an entire season in 2011-12.
Whether you’re a fan of the Cavaliers or not, it’s easy to root for these two who have more than paid their dues to get to this point.
While the Cleveland Cavaliers rapped to Meek Mill, the emotions of what had just happened hit George Hill and Jeff Green hard.
In a video sent out by the Cavaliers account on Instagram, the team was having fun with “Dreams and Nightmares” while the two veterans sat by their lockers with their hands covering their mouths.
The realization of winning the Eastern Conference Finals took a toll on them as both advanced to their first NBA Finals. It’s been a long journey for Hill and Green, who have gone through struggles in their own way.
Despite starting his career with the San Antonio Spurs and being a part of the Indiana Pacers team that took LeBron James and the Miami Heat to the brink in the early 2010s, Hill has never gotten to the NBA Finals.
Hill didn’t shoot well on the road, but his defense translated to Boston in the conference finals and his aggressiveness at home as an attacker and maestro in the pick-and-roll was crucial.
With Kevin Love going down within the first five minutes of Game 6, Green stepped up to the plate and delivered when Cleveland needed him the most. He took on the defensive challenge against multiple Celtics and knocked down a number of key shots in the last two games of the series.
In Green’s career, he has played for four different teams and hasn’t gotten past the second round of the postseason. His path was much more challenging personally as well, as he dealt with a serious heart issue that caused him to miss an entire season in 2011-12.
Whether you’re a fan of the Cavaliers or not, it’s easy to root for these two who have more than paid their dues to get to this point.
This is why I don't like dudes like you.
For you to even doubt it was idiotic. It was more of a sure thing than your Warriors tonite.
because if he doesn't shoot 10 fuckin threes or even if he makes at least two of them they probably win the game
He's young, but damn, dude pulled a John Starks...James Harden
Here is the thing about LeBron v.s Jordan.
You could scheme against Jordan defensively and beat him. See Jordan rules. Stop Jordan from scoring you stop the bulls.
LeBron.....the hardest scorer to stop is a scorer that isnt looking to score first. He will dribble or drive to create a shot for someone else. Dribble and drive and find someone on the way.
And he knows how to pick his shots to make his teamates better. LeBron said it, every 2 points aint 2 points.
If LeBron drives and euro step dunks the ball guess who job that makes easier? JR smith. Teams collapsing on LeBron make Jr free up. LeBron seems to know methodically what type of bucket he needs to score at the particular time as opposed to jordan who will take 7 dribbles and take what the defense gives him circus shot hoping it will go in. Notice Jordan got better when he stopped that shit and picked his shots better in the 2nd 3 peat.
LeBron takrs pick and roll switch to iso on horford....he scores guess who that makes better? Tristian thompson who might end up posting up someone mike terry rozier down low. How often did we see tristian posting up a midget?
Even when LeBron scores he makes his teamates better as opposed to jordan who scored and made himself better.
You could scheme against Jordan defensively and beat him. See Jordan rules. Stop Jordan from scoring you stop the bulls.
LeBron.....the hardest scorer to stop is a scorer that isnt looking to score first. He will dribble or drive to create a shot for someone else. Dribble and drive and find someone on the way.
And he knows how to pick his shots to make his teamates better. LeBron said it, every 2 points aint 2 points.
If LeBron drives and euro step dunks the ball guess who job that makes easier? JR smith. Teams collapsing on LeBron make Jr free up. LeBron seems to know methodically what type of bucket he needs to score at the particular time as opposed to jordan who will take 7 dribbles and take what the defense gives him circus shot hoping it will go in. Notice Jordan got better when he stopped that shit and picked his shots better in the 2nd 3 peat.
LeBron takrs pick and roll switch to iso on horford....he scores guess who that makes better? Tristian thompson who might end up posting up someone mike terry rozier down low. How often did we see tristian posting up a midget?
Even when LeBron scores he makes his teamates better as opposed to jordan who scored and made himself better.
why you calling them his warriors.....dont dude ride with the jokic and em????
You credit that to him sucking i credit that to great defense.
They didnt run any plays to get those 3 point shots. It was all just in the flow. Kyle Korver last 3 point shot came off a double screen and he caught turned and swished from LeBron James. That gave them the lead and i thought was a monumental 3 in the 3rd qrt that allowed cavs to play at a tempo that they could afford to shot shots deep into the shot clock and thats what lebron did on horford switches
Boy you know how to pick and choose your arguements
That was just a fact. Not an argument. The Bulls won one playoff series against the bum ass Cavs and got bounced. I really don't understand how this "they were a play away from the Finals" myth started. Niggas have repeated that shit so much on BGOL that I started to believe it..lol fakenews trump ass niggas
This wasn't your original argument. You said they would be unbeatable. You didn't say he would "carry them to the finals". Lebron can get lots of teams to the finals.. teams that many other players couldn't so I don't doubt he could take that team to the finals. Saying Lebron would "carry a team to the nba finals" really ain't saying shit. That's what that nigga does for a living
But that team would be highly flawed, offensively. For instance, I think the Spurs team that beat Miami, would beat that team in the same exact way.
To keep it historically accurate, the Rockets team that won that year would have likely run them off the court too... just a bad matchup for a team with no shooters and no triple post office.
Basketball is a game of matchups. Harper, Pippen, Rodman, and Lebron is a team full of players that need to get into the paint to score consistently. You just pack the paint and make them shoot.
Lebron doesn't need stars in that same sense. Give him some guys that can defend and then some shooters to open the lane and he'll make that shit work.
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Nah he a nomad. He just pull for whoever Bron play. That Nuggets shit a front.
Well if they would have been unbeatable of course they would have went to the finals. I didnt say that is all they would acheive.That was just a fact. Not an argument. The Bulls won one playoff series against the bum ass Cavs and got bounced. I really don't understand how this "they were a play away from the Finals" myth started. Niggas have repeated that shit so much on BGOL that I started to believe it..lol fakenews trump ass niggas
This wasn't your original argument. You said they would be unbeatable. You didn't say he would "carry them to the finals". Lebron can get lots of teams to the finals.. teams that many other players couldn't so I don't doubt he could take that team to the finals. Saying Lebron would "carry a team to the nba finals" really ain't saying shit. That's what that nigga does for a living
But that team would be highly flawed, offensively. For instance, I think the Spurs team that beat Miami, would beat that team in the same exact way.
To keep it historically accurate, the Rockets team that won that year would have likely run them off the court too... just a bad matchup for a team with no shooters and no triple post office.
LeBron joined a 5th seeded miami team that lost in the 1st round to boston 4-1.
As opposed to putting lebron with a half of fame coach and armstrong who was a all star that year and pippen who managed to win 2 less without jordan.....lebron might sweep the east
Put MJ on this Cavs team he gets 35 a night but they lottery bound (ex: See late 80s Bulls).
A 2 point shot that stops a 10-0 run is different than.
A 2 point shot that starts your own 10-0 run.
A 2 point shot that comes 22 seconds into the shot clock is different than
a 2 point shot that comes 5 seconds into the shot clock.
Of course one is more valuable than the other. If you have the lead a 2 point shot that is 22 seconds into the shot clock is more valuable than a 2 point shot 6 seconds into the shot clock.
And if you trailing a 2 point shot 6 seconds into the shot clock is more valuable than a 2 point shot 22 seconds into the shot clock.
That is called controlling the tempo. LeBron understands that is the key to winning. You literally can have 10 points 7 assists and 0 turn overs and low key be the best player out on the floor and the most valuable simply by controlling the tempo on offense scary thing is lebron controlled it on defense to. His man didnt score often and he had 15 boards.
A 2 point shot that starts your own 10-0 run.
A 2 point shot that comes 22 seconds into the shot clock is different than
a 2 point shot that comes 5 seconds into the shot clock.
Of course one is more valuable than the other. If you have the lead a 2 point shot that is 22 seconds into the shot clock is more valuable than a 2 point shot 6 seconds into the shot clock.
And if you trailing a 2 point shot 6 seconds into the shot clock is more valuable than a 2 point shot 22 seconds into the shot clock.
That is called controlling the tempo. LeBron understands that is the key to winning. You literally can have 10 points 7 assists and 0 turn overs and low key be the best player out on the floor and the most valuable simply by controlling the tempo on offense scary thing is lebron controlled it on defense to. His man didnt score often and he had 15 boards.
Yup with or without phil
Ask Jordan fans to speak on his greatness outside of the triple post (8 other seasons of his career), they get quiet.
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