0fficial 2017-2018 NBA Postseason Thread....NBA Finals Cavs vs Warriors 0-4(dubs back 2 back champs)

[Mask]

LOOK: George Hill, Jeff Green soak in moment as Cavaliers celebrate

While the Cleveland Cavaliers rapped to Meek Mill, the emotions of what had just happened hit George Hill and Jeff Green hard.

In a video sent out by the Cavaliers account on Instagram, the team was having fun with “Dreams and Nightmares” while the two veterans sat by their lockers with their hands covering their mouths.


The realization of winning the Eastern Conference Finals took a toll on them as both advanced to their first NBA Finals. It’s been a long journey for Hill and Green, who have gone through struggles in their own way.

Despite starting his career with the San Antonio Spurs and being a part of the Indiana Pacers team that took LeBron James and the Miami Heat to the brink in the early 2010s, Hill has never gotten to the NBA Finals.

Hill didn’t shoot well on the road, but his defense translated to Boston in the conference finals and his aggressiveness at home as an attacker and maestro in the pick-and-roll was crucial.

With Kevin Love going down within the first five minutes of Game 6, Green stepped up to the plate and delivered when Cleveland needed him the most. He took on the defensive challenge against multiple Celtics and knocked down a number of key shots in the last two games of the series.

In Green’s career, he has played for four different teams and hasn’t gotten past the second round of the postseason. His path was much more challenging personally as well, as he dealt with a serious heart issue that caused him to miss an entire season in 2011-12.

Whether you’re a fan of the Cavaliers or not, it’s easy to root for these two who have more than paid their dues to get to this point.

 

[BDR]

Vegas got the warriors as the favorites -6/-260 and rockets as the underdogs as +6/+210 on the money line

 

[Mask]

 

[KingTaharqa]

This is why I don't like dudes like you.

What I said was true at the moment. Don't act like you went out on a limb by saying Lebron would be back in the NBA Finals. He's done it 8 straight times now. I never said he wasn't going to make it but moreso "They haven't made it yet". So there was nothing wrong with my statement.

For you to even doubt it was idiotic. It was more of a sure thing than your Warriors tonite.

 

[Complex]

because if he doesn't shoot 10 fuckin threes or even if he makes at least two of them they probably win the game

He's young, but damn, dude pulled a John Starks...James Harden

 

[KingTaharqa]

Vegas got the warriors as the favorites -6/-260 and rockets as the underdogs as +6/+210 on the money line

KD better win.

 

[Sir_Fuzzy_McWaffle_Feet]

Here is the thing about LeBron v.s Jordan.

You could scheme against Jordan defensively and beat him. See Jordan rules. Stop Jordan from scoring you stop the bulls.

LeBron.....the hardest scorer to stop is a scorer that isnt looking to score first. He will dribble or drive to create a shot for someone else. Dribble and drive and find someone on the way.

And he knows how to pick his shots to make his teamates better. LeBron said it, every 2 points aint 2 points.

If LeBron drives and euro step dunks the ball guess who job that makes easier? JR smith. Teams collapsing on LeBron make Jr free up. LeBron seems to know methodically what type of bucket he needs to score at the particular time as opposed to jordan who will take 7 dribbles and take what the defense gives him circus shot hoping it will go in. Notice Jordan got better when he stopped that shit and picked his shots better in the 2nd 3 peat.

LeBron takrs pick and roll switch to iso on horford....he scores guess who that makes better? Tristian thompson who might end up posting up someone mike terry rozier down low. How often did we see tristian posting up a midget?

Even when LeBron scores he makes his teamates better as opposed to jordan who scored and made himself better.

 

[Mask]

For you to even doubt it was idiotic. It was more of a sure thing than your Warriors tonite.

why you calling them his warriors.....dont dude ride with the jokic and em????

 

[Sir_Fuzzy_McWaffle_Feet]

because if he doesn't shoot 10 fuckin threes or even if he makes at least two of them they probably win the game

He's young, but damn, dude pulled a John Starks...James Harden

You credit that to him sucking i credit that to great defense.

They didnt run any plays to get those 3 point shots. It was all just in the flow. Kyle Korver last 3 point shot came off a double screen and he caught turned and swished from LeBron James. That gave them the lead and i thought was a monumental 3 in the 3rd qrt that allowed cavs to play at a tempo that they could afford to shot shots deep into the shot clock and thats what lebron did on horford switches

 

[Spectrum]

Boy you know how to pick and choose your arguements

That was just a fact. Not an argument. The Bulls won one playoff series against the bum ass Cavs and got bounced. I really don't understand how this "they were a play away from the Finals" myth started. Niggas have repeated that shit so much on BGOL that I started to believe it..lol fakenews trump ass niggas

Like i said before lebron would have carried that team to the finals.

This wasn't your original argument. You said they would be unbeatable. You didn't say he would "carry them to the finals". Lebron can get lots of teams to the finals.. teams that many other players couldn't so I don't doubt he could take that team to the finals. Saying Lebron would "carry a team to the nba finals" really ain't saying shit. That's what that nigga does for a living

But that team would be highly flawed, offensively. For instance, I think the Spurs team that beat Miami, would beat that team in the same exact way.

To keep it historically accurate, the Rockets team that won that year would have likely run them off the court too... just a bad matchup for a team with no shooters and no triple post office.

Basketball is a game of matchups. Harper, Pippen, Rodman, and Lebron is a team full of players that need to get into the paint to score consistently. You just pack the paint and make them shoot.

Lebron doesn't need stars in that same sense. Give him some guys that can defend and then some shooters to open the lane and he'll make that shit work.

 

[KingTaharqa]

why you calling them his warriors.....dont dude ride with the jokic and em????

Nah he a nomad. He just pull for whoever Bron play. That Nuggets shit a front.

 

[Sir_Fuzzy_McWaffle_Feet]

That was just a fact. Not an argument. The Bulls won one playoff series against the bum ass Cavs and got bounced. I really don't understand how this "they were a play away from the Finals" myth started. Niggas have repeated that shit so much on BGOL that I started to believe it..lol fakenews trump ass niggas




This wasn't your original argument. You said they would be unbeatable. You didn't say he would "carry them to the finals". Lebron can get lots of teams to the finals.. teams that many other players couldn't so I don't doubt he could take that team to the finals. Saying Lebron would "carry a team to the nba finals" really ain't saying shit. That's what that nigga does for a living

But that team would be highly flawed, offensively. For instance, I think the Spurs team that beat Miami, would beat that team in the same exact way.

To keep it historically accurate, the Rockets team that won that year would have likely run them off the court too... just a bad matchup for a team with no shooters and no triple post office.

Well if they would have been unbeatable of course they would have went to the finals. I didnt say that is all they would acheive.

LeBron joined a 5th seeded miami team that lost in the 1st round to boston 4-1.

As opposed to putting lebron with a half of fame coach and armstrong who was a all star that year and pippen who managed to win 2 less without jordan.....lebron might sweep the east

 

[Llano]

Congratulations Warriors fans..

 

[KingTaharqa]

Put MJ on this Cavs team he gets 35 a night but they lottery bound (ex: See late 80s Bulls).

 

[Llano]

Vegas got the warriors as the favorites -6/-260 and rockets as the underdogs as +6/+210 on the money line

Congratulations Warriors fans..

 

[Sir_Fuzzy_McWaffle_Feet]

A 2 point shot that stops a 10-0 run is different than.

A 2 point shot that starts your own 10-0 run.

A 2 point shot that comes 22 seconds into the shot clock is different than

a 2 point shot that comes 5 seconds into the shot clock.

Of course one is more valuable than the other. If you have the lead a 2 point shot that is 22 seconds into the shot clock is more valuable than a 2 point shot 6 seconds into the shot clock.

And if you trailing a 2 point shot 6 seconds into the shot clock is more valuable than a 2 point shot 22 seconds into the shot clock.

That is called controlling the tempo. LeBron understands that is the key to winning. You literally can have 10 points 7 assists and 0 turn overs and low key be the best player out on the floor and the most valuable simply by controlling the tempo on offense scary thing is lebron controlled it on defense to. His man didnt score often and he had 15 boards.

 

[Sir_Fuzzy_McWaffle_Feet]

Put MJ on this Cavs team he gets 35 a night but they lottery bound (ex: See late 80s Bulls).

Yup with or without phil

 

[KingTaharqa]

Yup with or without phil

Ask Jordan fans to speak on his greatness outside of the triple post (8 other seasons of his career), they get quiet.

 

[Complex]

Put MJ on this Cavs team he gets 35 a night but they lottery bound (ex: See late 80s Bulls).

Jordan took a rookie Scottie and Horace Grant to the semi finals

Charles Oakley was the second best player

Who else did he have, Brad Sellers, Dave Corzine and Sam Vincent

 

[Mr. Met]

 

[Complex]

Ask Jordan fans to speak on his greatness outside of the triple post (8 other seasons of his career), they get quiet.

He was going to the playoffs and had to content with Boston and Detroit

The great team in the east have been who......

 

[KingTaharqa]

Jordan took a rookie Scottie and Horace Grant to the semi finals

Charles Oakley was the second best player

Who else did he have, Brad Sellers, Dave Corzine and Sam Vincent

Why didnt he take Orlando Woolridge and Gene Banks the years before? He got 2 of his coaches FIRED in 3 years behind that shit.

 

[KingTaharqa]

He was going to the playoffs and had to content with Boston and Detroit

The great team in the east have been who......

Lets cry a river. Thats what happens when you suck bro and barely make the playoffs winning 30 games, you play the top seeds.

 

[Sir_Fuzzy_McWaffle_Feet]

Just like every rebound aint a rebound. See ron artest game 7 v.s boston.

Basketball is a game of runs. And how we do you respond to them.

1 rebound can change the momentum of a game. Because realistically there gonna be about 6 or 7 lead changes in the avg NBA game. So if you get a defensive rebound that leads to a possesion that creates a 2 point shot that gets your team the lead......that rebound is more valuable than 3 offensive rebounds that lead to no points. LeBron makes the big plays. He knows when to step up. So looking at ppg dont mean shit.

I wish they counted stats when LeBron gains a lead.

 

[Complex]

Why didnt he take Orlando Woolridge and Gene Banks the years before? He got 2 of his coaches FIRED in 3 years behind that shit.

Jordan went to the playoffs every year he played with Chicago

Gene Banks

So now you're comparing a 22 year old Michael Jordan to a 33 year old Lebron

How many coaches has Lebron gotten fired?

 

[Complex]

Lets cry a river. Thats what happens when you suck bro and barely make the playoffs winning 30 games, you play the top seeds.

and break your foot

 

[Sir_Fuzzy_McWaffle_Feet]

Lets cry a river. Thats what happens when you suck bro and barely make the playoffs winning 30 games, you play the top seeds.

Like dont know what the game plan was.....but um trying to out score the celtics will get you swept

 

[Sir_Fuzzy_McWaffle_Feet]

Lets cry a river. Thats what happens when you suck bro and barely make the playoffs winning 30 games, you play the top seeds.

Imagine LeBron saying he could not get past a particular team cuz they was too great???

 

[KingTaharqa]

Like dont know what the game plan was.....but um trying to out score the celtics will get you swept

Anybody can go on youtube and watch the games. Jordan literally just would come down 1 on 5 and shoot and not look for his teammates. Gervin and Woolridge got them in the playoffs while MJ missed 70 games, then he freezes them out in the playoffs. High volume of shots, flashy dunks, insane usage rates, low IQ bball. Thats how you get swept by the Celtics back to back years.

 

[BDR]

Can’t agree with that GS still have way more talent than Houston and a championship pedigree..

I expect them to win however it is well known Scott Foster is biased against GS and just out right fuckery with him




Kerr not mentioning Foster by name back in 2016
https://www.mercurynews.com/2016/06...foster-a-referee-warriors-should-worry-about/

Chris Paul calling out Foster
http://www.nba.com/article/2018/01/...paul-calls-out-referee-scott-foster-after-win

NBA excludes Foster from Warriors Thunder game 7
http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/new...han-jason-phillips/1klw56ubi006j1nb2ai6zkc36k

It’s going to be fuckery tonight you can bet on it with Foster @Llano

 

[REDLINE]

Put MJ on this Cavs team he gets 35 a night but they lottery bound (ex: See late 80s Bulls).

It’s one thing not to like a man but you’re getting a bit ridiculous.

 

[KingTaharqa]

It’s one thing not to like a man but you’re getting a bit ridiculous.

Its one thing to like a man and his shoes but yall have made Jordan better in retirement than when he was playing. Jordan played on enough losing teams for us to know he'd go nowhere wit this bunch.

 

[Sir_Fuzzy_McWaffle_Feet]

People complain jordan couldnt get past superior celtics cuz his team was inferior(no help)

Yet lebron has inferior team and gets past pacers #1 seed raptors with coach of the year and #2 boston.

Why couldnt jordan produce these results with inferrior talent? Jordan team made the playoffs without him having a broken foot. Lebron miss a entire regular season he wont have the option of playing in the post season cuz his team would be a lottery team.

So by that measure i would hope y'all know jordan had a better supporting cast

 

[Spectrum]

LeBron joined a 5th seeded miami team that lost in the 1st round to boston 4-1.
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He didn't join that team by himself Stop trying to rewrite history. That Miami didn't even remotely resemble the one from the year ago. They added multiple superstars to that squad. They still had to make it work and doesn't resemble that sucka shit by Durant but nigga the Heat didn't just add one player and make the leap.

 

[Spectrum]

Its one thing to like a man and his shoes but yall have made Jordan better in retirement than when he was playing. Jordan played on enough losing teams for us to know he'd go nowhere wit this bunch.

With Love going down, Jordan can't become the Cavs leading rebounder. That's the part that isn't appreciated about Lebron.

When Pippen got hurt, the Bulls still won in the playoffs. But the replacing Pippen's production is easier than replacing Rodman's. Lebron gives you mad flexibility