Ultimate Horror Film Thread

[Piff Henderson]

not true at all most Jason movies most people are completely unaware that a person is on a killing spree.. It isn't till the end most of the time when its revealed to the last victims that a bunch of people are dead, than they see the trail of bodies,

And you consider that plausible, that he can basically commit a massacre and it isn't realized until most of the people are already dead? That's horror film nonsense. It works in slashers but it's not plausible at all. That doesn't happen in reality. That's my point.

Jason isn't realistic and wasn't intended to be. Friday the 13th was the Terrifier of its day. It was universally panned by critics as a blood and guts exploitation film but young people loved it. Even for slasher films, it didn't have much of a plot. It was all about the kills. No one cared about realism. It was the gore that mattered.

 

[Piff Henderson]

So serial killers helping solve other serial killers case is more plausible... Where they cut people faces off and use them as mask, than lift their bodies up and put them on the roofs of elevators is believable, than literally escaping holding cells with someone face skin on top of theirs.. Yeah whole movie definitely believable... Both movies are shit that you have to completely separate reality and enjoy the show.. Jason knows he's a fraud , silence wants you to think he's not.. Liver and fava beans( weird slurping sounds)

Actually, yes. Ted Bundy helped police in their search for Gary Ridgway ("The Green River Killer"). Bundy, AFAIK, wasn't a psychiatrist so it likely didn't happen exactly as depicted in the film. It's a movie after all.

By the way, Lecter wasn't the main villain in that film anyway, Buffalo Bill was. My point is that Buffalo Bill is a far more realistic depiction of a killer than Jason. His character was based on actual serial killers like Ed Gein and others whose names escape me. His motivations and how he lured his victims are both very realistic and based on actual events.

And, honestly, even the over the top stuff like using the man's face as a mask is still more plausible than an indestructible zombie killing people.

 

[Piff Henderson]

Same could be said about all these wack haunted movies... House bad, shit moves around, some strange entity does weird shit, some people come in to try to stop it, it usually ends well, sometimes it dont... Haunted movies been some of the wackest shit ever, yet they got a billion conjures, all them other wack movies.. House haunted, hey guys how bout we move, the end( the way it should really go)... At least slasher movies have different kills, different origin stories, etc... Last haunted movie I really cared for was the og poltergeist.. In the end they bounced and even threw the tv out the hotel room at the end lmaooo.... Than they made sequels zzzzzz and that's pretty much every other movie sense, that's why I watch none of them shits

Sorry, but I had to revisit this. Name a slasher film from the last 30 years that was as original and creative as films like It Follows, Talk To Me, or Smile.

That's the reason films like Terrifier, which you said are "gornos" rather than a slashers, are popular. The slasher film is tired and creatively bankrupt. They became so formulaic that the only way forward was to increase the gore and violence and eliminate even more plot elements.

 

[tallblacknyc]

And so what kind of training does he, or his mother, have that gives them the ability to stealth kill people or to use arrows with deadly accuracy? Don't tell me it's because they're so used to the land and spent their time hunting squirrels and other woodland critters. The stealth stuff is ridiculous too.

I can see killing one person that way but not multiple people without alerting the others. Killing multiple people like it's Solid Snake is just silly.

Serial killers generally don't do this either. While it's true serial killers don't kill a lot of people in a single event like mass shooters, they don't usually use stealth either. They generally gain the victims trust or target vulnerable (that word again) people like prostitutes, runaways, or the homeless/drug addicted. This is why their neighbors generally don't know what they're up to. They're usually smart enough not to shit where they eat.

Use arrows? How many Jason films have you seen? Jason is not known for using arrows.. You act like half his kills was with arrows.. In 7 films he featured in part 2-4, 6-9 how many times has he used an arrow? Dude kills with knives, machetes, axes.. He been killing people from 81-93.. Every yr he got better at killing vs people who never been in any hand to hand combat.. He's 6 foot 6.. Like I said why you trying to act like a pitbull vs a baby rabbit would be a hard sale on the dog winning..its not just off size alone you would think the dog would automatically win, now let me add a weapon its obvious who people would go for.. You seem to keep trying to go against obvious things that you don't need to be to a rocket science to comprehend.. Big entity with weapon vs smaller victims unarmed who do people think gonna win that battle? If I dropped a stranger off in your neighborhood that knows nothing about your area you think they gonna get around better than you? Jason been in Crystal lake since the 70s he know s the fucking area , all these new people dont.. Its easy for him to maneuver in a realm he been in for yrsss... Also they said that Jason actually does practice his skillset, they mentioned that b4

 

[tallblacknyc]

Sorry, but I had to revisit this. Name a slasher film from the last 30 years that was as original and creative as films like It Follows, Talk To Me, or Smile.

That's the reason films like Terrifier, which you said are "gornos" rather than a slashers, are popular. The slasher film is tired and creatively bankrupt. They became so formulaic that the only way forward was to increase the gore and violence and eliminate even more plot elements.

Saw
Scream
Hostel
Black phone

Just to name a few

Saw made 60 times its budget in its first film.. They made 10+ movies since.. Scream bout to release its 7 film and has a cult following over the past 3 decades.. Literally these slasher films combined has probably made close to a billion at the theatre.. There goes your your slasher films is tiresome.. Scream 7 will make a buttload of money when its released in February

 

[tallblacknyc]

And you consider that plausible, that he can basically commit a massacre and it isn't realized until most of the people are already dead? That's horror film nonsense. It works in slashers but it's not plausible at all. That doesn't happen in reality. That's my point.

Jason isn't realistic and wasn't intended to be. Friday the 13th was the Terrifier of its day. It was universally panned by critics as a blood and guts exploitation film but young people loved it. Even for slasher films, it didn't have much of a plot. It was all about the kills. No one cared about realism. It was the gore that mattered.

They are literally finding dead bodies of women all over NY in the past few months.. There's a serial killer who finally got caught from long island after over a decade .. He had various bodies buried in the same area.. Jeffrey dahmers had body parts of diff victims in his house when they finally caught him.. Literally double digit kills.. There was a Russian serial killer that killed over a hundred kids that literally got most of his victims at bus stops.. He literally showed the police a field with a few dozen skulls.. This is reality.. There's a shitload of cases where multiple bodies be found in.killers house, in their backyards, burned up, etc.. Neighbors have no idea.. So yes its highly plausible people get killed in large numbers and no one knows.. Cause it happens in real life, everyday, for centuries... One of the first known serial killers who people said killed at least 200 people had 100+ skulls in his house( DiCaprio actually wanted to play him in a movie)

 

[tallblacknyc]

Actually, yes. Ted Bundy helped police in their search for Gary Ridgway ("The Green River Killer"). Bundy, AFAIK, wasn't a psychiatrist so it likely didn't happen exactly as depicted in the film. It's a movie after all.

By the way, Lecter wasn't the main villain in that film anyway, Buffalo Bill was. My point is that Buffalo Bill is a far more realistic depiction of a killer than Jason. His character was based on actual serial killers like Ed Gein and others whose names escape me. His motivations and how he lured his victims are both very realistic and based on actual events.

And, honestly, even the over the top stuff like using the man's face as a mask is still more plausible than an indestructible zombie killing people.

You can't say the care bears are more realistic than my lil pony.. They both fake period.. So don't shit on 1 fake reality over the other.. Like I said Jason know what he is you want me to believe Hannibal lechter isn't fake.. See how you trying to move the goalpost.. Hannibal was more popular than buffalo bill.. More people acknowledge Hannibal than buffalo.. In fact buffalo was more of the side character than Hannibal.. Notice Hannibal had 2 sequels and multiple tv series and zero for buffalo bill.. No prequel no nothing.. When you say silence of the lambs people instantly think.of hannibal.. When you say top 2 catch phrases from silence.. Its ate his liver with a side of fava beans and hello clarisse( both by hanjibal)... So rip your face off , lifting bodies, escaping fully surveillance cell is bullshit.. But I can enjoy both fakes without acting like one can be true... Take Hannibal out the movie and zero fucks would be given about silence of the lambs.. Its hannibal, than jody, than the weirdo buffalo

 

[neptunes007]

The Terrifier trilogy is some scary shit.

It’s low key the best new horror anathology in the past decade. They can go on forever with the story

 

[therealjondoe]

I think I'm ready to give my top 10
1 Sinners
2 The long walk
3 Frankenstein
4 Bring her back
5 Together
6 Good Boy
7 Weapons
8 The Rule of Jenny pen
9 keeper

Honorable mentions :
the damned
Heart eyes
Final destination
Ugly stepsister
Shelby oaks

 

[Texas Catdaddy]

I think I'm ready to give my top 10
1 Sinners
2 The long walk
3 Frankenstein
4 Bring her back
5 Together
6 Good Boy
7 Weapons
8 The Rule of Jenny pen
9 keeper

Honorable mentions :
the damned
Heart eyes
Final destination
Ugly stepsister
Shelby oaks

gonna run thru these .....

 

[Piff Henderson]

Use arrows? How many Jason films have you seen? Jason is not known for using arrows.. You act like half his kills was with arrows.. In 7 films he featured in part 2-4, 6-9 how many times has he used an arrow? Dude kills with knives, machetes, axes.. He been killing people from 81-93.. Every yr he got better at killing vs people who never been in any hand to hand combat.. He's 6 foot 6.. Like I said why you trying to act like a pitbull vs a baby rabbit would be a hard sale on the dog winning..its not just off size alone you would think the dog would automatically win, now let me add a weapon its obvious who people would go for.. You seem to keep trying to go against obvious things that you don't need to be to a rocket science to comprehend.. Big entity with weapon vs smaller victims unarmed who do people think gonna win that battle? If I dropped a stranger off in your neighborhood that knows nothing about your area you think they gonna get around better than you? Jason been in Crystal lake since the 70s he know s the fucking area , all these new people dont.. Its easy for him to maneuver in a realm he been in for yrsss... Also they said that Jason actually does practice his skillset, they mentioned that b4

His mother used an arrow, with deadly accuracy, to kill a victim in the first film. You're supposed to be the expert on these films and you didn't know that? Anyway, how come he's the only one who knows the area. There's no one else who lived in or explored these woods for decades? That's stupid too.

Pitbull vs baby rabbit? My guy, he's fighting adults not children. Like you said, he's superhumanly strong so, yeah, he should have no problem winning but, like I said, that isn't plausible. Superhumans don't exist in reality. There's nothing in the Friday the 13th films that have any bearing reality.

You already admitted you have to suspend belief to accept what happens in the films but you continue to argue that it's somehow as plausible as a crime thriller.

 

[Piff Henderson]

They are literally finding dead bodies of women all over NY in the past few months.. There's a serial killer who finally got caught from long island after over a decade .. He had various bodies buried in the same area.. Jeffrey dahmers had body parts of diff victims in his house when they finally caught him.. Literally double digit kills.. There was a Russian serial killer that killed over a hundred kids that literally got most of his victims at bus stops.. He literally showed the police a field with a few dozen skulls.. This is reality.. There's a shitload of cases where multiple bodies be found in.killers house, in their backyards, burned up, etc.. Neighbors have no idea.. So yes its highly plausible people get killed in large numbers and no one knows.. Cause it happens in real life, everyday, for centuries... One of the first known serial killers who people said killed at least 200 people had 100+ skulls in his house( DiCaprio actually wanted to play him in a movie)

Serial killers work over months to years. They target vulnerable people and avoid those that know them. Jason kills most of his victims in a single night. Are you telling me that it's realistic for someone not to find out that someone has been killing people they attended a campsite with until nearly all of them are dead?

That would only work if he killed most of them while they were sleeping. Not even Solid Snake would get away with killing multiple people who are wide awake without alerting someone else in the vicinity. That's horror film stupidity. It works for slashers but it's completely implausible.

 

[Piff Henderson]

You can't say the care bears are more realistic than my lil pony.. They both fake period.. So don't shit on 1 fake reality over the other.. Like I said Jason know what he is you want me to believe Hannibal lechter isn't fake.. See how you trying to move the goalpost.. Hannibal was more popular than buffalo bill.. More people acknowledge Hannibal than buffalo.. In fact buffalo was more of the side character than Hannibal.. Notice Hannibal had 2 sequels and multiple tv series and zero for buffalo bill.. No prequel no nothing.. When you say silence of the lambs people instantly think.of hannibal.. When you say top 2 catch phrases from silence.. Its ate his liver with a side of fava beans and hello clarisse( both by hanjibal)... So rip your face off , lifting bodies, escaping fully surveillance cell is bullshit.. But I can enjoy both fakes without acting like one can be true... Take Hannibal out the movie and zero fucks would be given about silence of the lambs.. Its hannibal, than jody, than the weirdo buffalo

This is the stupidest shit I've read on this thread. No shit they're both fictional. No one ever said otherwise. My point is one is more plausible than other.

There's no way you can argue with a straight face that a zombie murdering multiple people in a single night with a machete, who is superhumanly strong, can teleport, can possess people, and is impervious to bullets is more plausible than a serial killer who targets women one at a time. C'mon, my guy.

All of this goofy shit about more people acknowledging Hannibal over Buffalo Bill is irrelevant. The Silence of the Lambs was about capturing Buffalo Bill. Period.

Anyway, that's only one film I used as an example. I could've easily used Se7en, Kalifornia, Cape Fear, Single White Female, or any other crime thriller that's still far more plausible than Friday the 13th and slasher films in general.

 

[Piff Henderson]

Saw
Scream
Hostel
Black phone

Just to name a few

Saw made 60 times its budget in its first film.. They made 10+ movies since.. Scream bout to release its 7 film and has a cult following over the past 3 decades.. Literally these slasher films combined has probably made close to a billion at the theatre.. There goes your your slasher films is tiresome.. Scream 7 will make a buttload of money when its released in February

How is The Black Phone a slasher? The Final Destination films are more slasher adjacent than the The Black Phone is and you were adamant that FD weren't slasher films.

Anyway, how do any of them compare to the Conjuring films when it comes to profits since that seems to be important to you? I do remember you shitting on the Conjuring films.

Personally, I don't give a fuck about profits. I was talking about creativity. Slashers are formulaic and repetitive. It's the more supernatural horrors that are fresher and more creative. Saw, Scream, and Hostel is the same shit over and over again. The audience just keep paying for the same shit.